stat padding contest lebron vs caron butler

[LakersForlife]

discuss

[aj1987]

Chuckbe wins.

[LakersForlife]

Chuckbe wins.
alpha dont statpad alphas chucks ridiculous shot (kobe,curry) chucker alpha > chuckers(melo,westbeast) we stay winning

[warriorfan]

lebron stats pads rebounds, he always insists on getting all the uncontested defensive boards. his points and assists get inflated because he dominates the ball so often as well

im gonna say lebron

[LakersForlife]

lebron stats pads rebounds, he always insists on getting all the uncontested defensive boards. his points and assists get inflated because he dominates the ball so often as well

im gonna say lebron
but caron butler had that game ending steal when they were down 30 and made a lay up.. care to elaborate how lebron could top that?

[LakersForlife]

lebron stats pads rebounds, he always insists on getting all the uncontested defensive boards. his points and assists get inflated because he dominates the ball so often as well

im gonna say lebron
well i know lebron statpads his way to history.

[MellowYellow]

If you want statpadding ricky davis is your guy. Threw ball at his own rim to try to get the final rebound he needed for triple double.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNrehtOZIlY

[LakersForlife]

If you want statpadding ricky davis is your guy. Threw ball at opponents rim to try to get the final rebound he needed for triple double.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNrehtOZIlY
well be making it lebron vs caron butler + ricky davis then...

[warriorfan]

but caron butler had that game ending steal when they were down 30 and made a lay up.. care to elaborate how lebron could top that?

lebron couldn't top that cause he doesn't have the nut sack to pull that shit off. he would be too timid and scared to do that

but what lebron does is actually worse, if lebron played properly and didnt dominate the ball so often and played off ball and harder defense he would have stats of like 20 / 5 / 5 / 1 / 1 on mediocre percentages and solid d and he would have more championships then his empty stats bullshit that he pulls which is now known as "lebron ball".

[aj1987]

lebron couldn't top that cause he doesn't have the nut sack to pull that shit off. he would be too timid and scared to do that

but what lebron does is actually worse, if lebron played properly and didnt dominate the ball so often and played off ball and harder defense he would have stats of like 20 / 5 / 5 / 1 / 1 on mediocre percentages and solid d and he would have more championships then his empty stats bullshit that he pulls which is now known as "lebron ball".
So wait, LeBron puts up 36/13/9 on 40% and his team loses and you think him scoring 20/5/5 on 45% is going to help them win?


alpha dont statpad alphas chucks ridiculous shot (kobe,curry) chucker alpha > chuckers(melo,westbeast) we stay winning
Lol! Let me put it this way. Kobe's career high TS% is 58%. Curry's career average TS% is 62%.

LeBron >>>>>>> Kobe. Not particularly close either.

[LakersForlife]

lebron couldn't top that cause he doesn't have the nut sack to pull that shit off. he would be too timid and scared to do that

but what lebron does is actually worse, if lebron played properly and didnt dominate the ball so often and played off ball and harder defense he would have stats of like 20 / 5 / 5 / 1 / 1 on mediocre percentages and solid d and he would have more championships then his empty stats bullshit that he pulls which is now known as "lebron ball".
well this is a strong case.. stat padding his way to history and giving up on championships..

[JohnMax]

They both played for 2011 Dallas Mavericks.

[warriorfan]

So wait, LeBron puts up 36/13/9 on 40% and his team loses and you think him scoring 20/5/5 on 45% is going to help them win?

yes

playing within the offense and better defense instead of chasing uncontested rebounds and bowling into the paint every time will increase your basketball teams chances of winning

[LakersForlife]

So wait, LeBron puts up 36/13/9 on 40% and his team loses and you think him scoring 20/5/5 on 45% is going to help them win?


Lol! Let me put it this way. Kobe's career high TS% is 58%. Curry's career average TS% is 62%.

LeBron >>>>>>> Kobe. Not particularly close either.
i said chucker right? lebron does it against second unit so the statpading discussion

[MellowYellow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ5TADCwcJM

Make no mistake about it, lebron always knows what his numbers are and is always trying to pad his #'s in garbage time.

[aj1987]

yes

playing within the offense and better defense instead of chasing uncontested rebounds and bowling into the paint every time will increase your basketball teams chances of winning
Christ, you're retarded. LeBron saving 2 possessions a game and scoring 16 fewer points, grabbing 8 fewer assists, and assisting 4 fewer times a game would've won them a ring... :roll: :roll:


i said chucker right? lebron does it against second unit so the statpading discussion
True he does it against bottom feeding lottery team like the '06 raptors and horrible defensive teams.

Can you stick to one account, BTW?

[LakersForlife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ5TADCwcJM

Make no mistake about it, lebron always knows what his numbers are and is always trying to pad his #'s in garbage time.
well lebron is winning so far against caron and ricky

[LakersForlife]

Christ, you're retarded. LeBron saving 2 possessions a game and scoring 16 fewer points, grabbing 8 fewer assists, and assisting 4 fewer times a game would've won them a ring... :roll: :roll:


True he does it against bottom feeding lottery team like the '06 raptors and horrible defensive teams.

Can you stick to one account, BTW?

kobe put on 81 against the raps they where down 15 halfway in the 4th. so thats not stat padding thats being alpha carrying a bunch of scrubs like smush parker.. see melow yellow arguments that makes more sense

[MellowYellow]

Christ, you're retarded. LeBron saving 2 possessions a game and scoring 16 fewer points, grabbing 8 fewer assists, and assisting 4 fewer times a game would've won them a ring... :roll: :roll:


True he does it against bottom feeding lottery team like the '06 raptors and horrible defensive teams.

Can you stick to one account, BTW?

I don't think they woulda won regardless, but I don't think he should be praised for putting up those numbers either. With a usage rating 40.8% he's bound to get #'s anybody could.

[warriorfan]

Christ, you're retarded. LeBron saving 2 possessions a game and scoring 16 fewer points, grabbing 8 fewer assists, and assisting 4 fewer times a game would've won them a ring... :roll: :roll:


True he does it against bottom feeding lottery team like the '06 raptors and horrible defensive teams.

Can you stick to one account, BTW?

this isn't how it works bruh

if lebron doesn't ball dominate and plays within a free flowing offense that means his teammates get not only more opportunities but better quality opportunities as well. there is a reason why lebron lowers the statisticall output of all of his teammates he has ever played with. he is getting stats at the sacrifice of his teammates and more importantly at the sacrifice of his team as a whole.

[LakersForlife]

this isn't how it works bruh

if lebron doesn't ball dominate and plays within a free flowing offense that means his teammates get not only more opportunities but better quality opportunities as well. there is a reason why lebron lowers the statisticall output of all of his teammates he has ever played with. he is getting stats at the sacrifice of his teammates and more importantly at the sacrifice of his team as a whole.
ohh what is this..lebrons sucks his teammates stat to stat pad his way to history?

[aj1987]

kobe put on 81 against the raps they where down 15 halfway in the 4th. so thats not stat padding thats being alpha carrying a bunch of scrubs like smush parker.. see melow yellow arguments that makes more sense
According to your "logic", LeBron can only score against bench players and hence, he's a statpadder. Kobe is worse. He can only score against the worst defensive teams in the league. Worse statpadder.


if lebron doesn't ball dominate and plays within a free flowing offense that means his teammates get not only more opportunities but better quality opportunities as well. there is a reason why lebron lowers the statisticall output of all of his teammates he has ever played with. he is getting stats at the sacrifice of his teammates and more importantly at the sacrifice of his team as a whole.
LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

[LakersForlife]

According to your "logic", LeBron can only score against bench players and hence, he's a statpadder. Kobe is worse. He can only score against the worst defensive teams in the league. Worse statpadder.


LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

its not stat padding if the game is close going by the end of the 4th.. its stat padding if youre up 30 and trying to get a rebound just to get a triple double 5 min. remaining in the game against a bunch of scrubs like lebron does every night

[Gileraracer]

Lebron - statpadding is a 20/5/5 guy at best

[LakersForlife]

Lebron - statpadding is a 20/5/5 guy at best
thank you

[warriorfan]

According to your "logic", LeBron can only score against bench players and hence, he's a statpadder. Kobe is worse. He can only score against the worst defensive teams in the league. Worse statpadder.


LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

you gonna act like jr smith and shumpert can't play within a real offense? :wtf: :oldlol:

btw you can slow the pace without ball domination and bowling into the paint every possession

[warriorfan]

ohh what is this..lebrons sucks his teammates stat to stat pad his way to history?

pretty much

[aj1987]

you gonna act like jr smith and shumpert can't play within a real offense? :wtf: :oldlol:
The Knicks traded JR and Shump for Louis Amundson, Alex Kirk, Lance, and a 2nd round pick. The Knicks. JR is a low IQ chucker. A Beasley of sort with better defense. I've actually explained this in my post:

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

Also, playing within the offense? That's something the coaching staff have to deal with.


btw you can slow the pace without ball domination and bowling into the paint every possession
Yeah, stop reading Chuckbe stans posts and actually watch a game. The player you stan was in the Finals and won it and you didn't even watch the games. :facepalm


its not stat padding if the game is close going by the end of the 4th.. its stat padding if youre up 30 and trying to get a rebound just to get a triple double 5 min. remaining in the game against a bunch of scrubs like lebron does every night
That's not what you said, you idiot. Kobe scored 14 of his points against a 27 win horrible defensive team, after his team was up 12 with like 4 minutes left.

As I said, Kobe can only score against bottom feeding teams. Hence, his dismal 41% shooting in the Finals for his career.

[sd3035]

lebron stats pads rebounds, he always insists on getting all the uncontested defensive boards. his points and assists get inflated because he dominates the ball so often as well

im gonna say lebron

Lebron has also added statpadding plus minus to his repertoire. He has taken it upon himself to make his own substitutions (out on defense, in on offense). It is particularly noticeable during FT situations. Most players are casually subbed in or out between FTs. Lebald sits himself on the bench or dashes back on the court as soon as the whistle blows :lol

Lebald >>>>>>> Caron

Lebald's only statpadding competition is the legendary Wilt

[sd3035]

Lebald doesn't even guard anyone most of the time on defense. He can be found either roaming the passing lane looking for steals, or standing around the basket waiting for a rebound. Other times he just completely abandons his team and runs up the court hoping to get an easy layup or dunk after his man puts up an uncontested shot

His assists usually consist of holding the ball until the clock winds down then dumping it off to a teammate for a long contested jumper. If the shot goes in, it's an assist for him. If they miss, his teammates suck

[sd3035]

Abandoning his man on defense

https://vine.co/v/Oi1FFDxTHEB


not guarding anyone to try to get an easy rebound

https://vine.co/v/O1YUXzgqDuJ

[TheMarkMadsen]

AJ came in here and randomly started talking about Kobe :roll: :roll:

[choppermagic]

Lebron. He's made a career out of it.

And Butler doesn't have a shirt that says "Check My Stats".

[CAstill]

AJ came in here and randomly started talking about Kobe :roll: :roll:


He's obviously an insecure troll who has no real basketball iq, hence why he thinks lebron is better than Kobe. He gets emotional over Wade too. :roll:

[eliteballer]

lebron stats pads rebounds, he always insists on getting all the uncontested defensive boards. his points and assists get inflated because he dominates the ball so often as well

im gonna say lebron

:applause: So true about the rebounds.

[aj1987]

He's obviously an insecure troll who has no real basketball iq, hence why he thinks lebron is better than Kobe. He gets emotional over Wade too. :roll:
We've seen you talk about basketball, dude. TheMarkMadshit as well. You guys literally do nothing other than suck Kobe off like you're $10 hoes. At the least, I put out FACTS. Try to disprove anything I said, bitch.

EDIT: wariorfan, stick to one account, dude. It's annoying quoting you in different posts.

[JT123]

We've seen you talk about basketball, dude. TheMarkMadshit as well. You guys literally do nothing other than suck Kobe off like you're $10 hoes. At the least, I put out FACTS. Try to disprove anything I said, bitch.
:lol :roll: :oldlol:

[LakersForlife]

:lol :roll: :oldlol:
that was funny to you? go back to your moms 80 year old elastic breasts you oompa loompa looking mother ****er stop derailing my thread ..