Most lowkey great players in the NBA

[ArbitraryWater]

Shaun Livingston, Boris Diaw...

soooooo good. Any bench would love them. Could start, too.

[masonanddixon]

What team could Livingston start for?

[Proctor]

Spurs have a bunch. Patty Mills, Diaw, West.

I'll also throw in Tony Allen, Prigioni and Corey Brewer.

[masonanddixon]

Spurs have a bunch. Patty Mills, Diaw, West.

I'll also throw in Tony Allen, Prigioni and Corey Brewer.

I still can't believe West is coming off the bench.

[kurple]

Awesome thread

JJ Reddick, Zach Randolph if those are low ley enough

[masonanddixon]

Awesome thread

JJ Reddick, Zach Randolph if those are low ley enough

Z-Bo ain't low key. He was causing a ruckus back in the day.

[ArbitraryWater]

Z-Bo is lowkey in the sense that he just doesnt get any type of attention, at all... for a few years there, around 2011, Im sure he had a more positive impact than he ever had during his earlier days, when he was still in the media's mouth.

You tune into a Grizzlies playoff match and still realize how much of a threat he is to the opponents.

[masonanddixon]

Z-Bo is lowkey in the sense that he just doesnt get any type of attention, at all... for a few years there, around 2011, Im sure he had a more positive impact than he ever had during his earlier days, when he was still in the media's mouth.

You tune into a Grizzlies playoff match and still realize how much of a threat he is to the opponents.

Yeah because he is horrible on defense and is a high volume scorer.

But he was a HUGE name back in the mid 2000s, and its impossible to refer to him as 'low-key', in effect.

[Zach LaVine]

I still can't believe West is coming off the bench.
Yeah, still putting up good per 36 numbers.

[Zach LaVine]

Z-Bo ain't low key. He was causing a ruckus back in the day.
Low key enough that you have to refer to his production as "back in the day" rather than looking at his current production.

[masonanddixon]

Yeah, still putting up good per 36 numbers.

He's far too good to be a bench player. He could still put up 17/10 on any team right now.

[RRR3]

You have an extremely loose definition of "great"

[VengefulAngel]

JV, Kemba Walker and Paul Millsap, so under mentioned it's unbelievable.

[Zach LaVine]

He's far too good to be a bench player. He could still put up 17/10 on any team right now.
That is a little much, particularly for "any team" given that it would include the Spurs. Also given that he has never averaged 10 rebounds in his career.

[ArbitraryWater]

You have an extremely loose definition of "great"

It always depends on how far you are raising the bar, since these guys are technically obviously great, in this case, you are taking the superlatives way too seriously, we all know they're good, so adjust it to the proper definition/standart, in your mind.

[masonanddixon]

That is a little much, particularly for "any team" given that it would include the Spurs. Also given that he has never averaged 10 rebounds in his career.

What did he average on New Orleans?

He's an very good power forward. I just don't think he has that mentality to take over games (similar to a Rasheed Wallace) but there's no way he should be coming off the bench.

[RRR3]

It always depends on how far you are raising the bar, since these guys are technically obviously great, in this case, you are taking the superlatives way too seriously, we all know they're good, so adjust it to the proper definition/standart, in your mind.
They're good role players.


I reserve great for guys like ZVC, Bran, KD, CP3

[ArbitraryWater]

They're good role players.


I reserve great for guys like ZVC, Bran, KD, CP3

its a completely different, historical standart you're approaching.. watch for the context.

If we're talking role players, they're undoubtedly great.

[Zach LaVine]

What did he average on New Orleans?

He's an very good power forward. I just don't think he has that mentality to take over games (similar to a Rasheed Wallace) but there's no way he should be coming off the bench.
I agree he is a very good power forward. His peak rebounds were 8.9 back in 2007-08 while averaging nearly 38mpg. His rebounds per 36 have consistently floated around the 8rpg for much of his career, but I doubt at age 35 he could keep up the stamina given that his mpg have decreased the past few years even as a starter for the Pacers (peak was 38-39mpg and was only at 30mpg as a starter in Indy before leaving). His points per 36 have also steadily gone down. If he were the go to scorer or #2 he may still be able to average 17ppg, but again I'm not sure on the efficiency he would maintain at his age. So although he still is a high quality PF that should probably be starting, he'd probably need a quality backup because a team should be able to lean on him as much as he was in the past. That said, I don't blame him for becoming a super sub battling for a ring and potentially extending his career than trying to live out as an over played aging player on a team that is not expected to go far in the playoffs.

[Zach LaVine]

They're good role players.


I reserve great for guys like ZVC, Bran, KD, CP3
I think most people reserve "great" for a few guys at the top, but we all knew what the OP was getting at given his examples.

[Reggie43]

Weird thread title. I thought this would be about Hof/allstar level players kind of overshadowed on their own teams like Parish, Worthy, Dumars etc

[RRR3]

its a completely different, historical standart you're approaching.. watch for the context.

If we're talking role players, they're undoubtedly great.
You should have said great role players then. In which case I have to nominate my homeboy Mario Chalmers.


Also, it's standarD

[ArbitraryWater]

Weird thread title. I thought this would be about Hof/allstar level players kind of overshadowed on their own teams like Parish, Worthy, Dumars etc

none of those players are lowkey.. plus the random alt apperance is suspicious as hell.


You should have said great role players then. In which case I have to nominate my homeboy Mario Chalmers.


Also, it's standarD

Its worded perfectly fine (and I mean the thread title not standart), trust me and stop playing hard ass :oldlol:

[plowking]

Zach Lavine. Most people think he is just an athlete that gets easy buckets. Reality is that he is one of the best spot up shooters in the league. Should definitely give up on the point guard ambitions on focus on becoming a 2 guard. Has great potential both as someone who can get to the ring based on how athletic he is, and furthermore continue to improve as a spot up shooter, which he is already fantastic at.

Another one I'll add is MKG. Dude is a beasty defender and would really be a talked about guy if he was on a championship team. I know he is injured and barely played this season, but I really think he is underrated. Would be getting DPOY talks if he was on the Spurs or Warriors.

[Zach LaVine]

Weird thread title. I thought this would be about Hof/allstar level players kind of overshadowed on their own teams like Parish, Worthy, Dumars etc
Or at least mostly forgotten all-stars, like Mitch Richmond.

[Reggie43]

none of those players are lowkey.. plus the random alt apperance is suspicious as hell.



Its worded perfectly fine (and I mean the thread title not standart), trust me and stop playing hard ass :oldlol:

They seem lowkey to me as compared to the praise the main guys on their team gets. Atleast I dont call roleplayers "great"

Nice.. got called an alt again because of the low post count and the op not having the ability to handle constructive criticism :facepalm

[Zach LaVine]

Zach Lavine. Most people think he is just an athlete that gets easy buckets. Reality is that he is one of the best spot up shooters in the league. Should definitely give up on the point guard ambitions on focus on becoming a 2 guard. Has great potential both as someone who can get to the ring based on how athletic he is, and furthermore continue to improve as a spot up shooter, which he is already fantastic at.


:applause: I would like Wiggins traded for somebody more well rounded or a great PG and move LaVine to 2. Of course, this should not be rushed and patience should be used to land the right player. Wolves are not in a rush.

[Reggie43]

Or at least mostly forgotten all-stars, like Mitch Richmond.
Yeah should have put in lesser recognizable players.

[Young X]

JJ Redick.

Although I wouldn't use the word "great" but he's a really helpful offensive player. He's arguably having just as good if not a better season than Korver last year.

[jayfan]

What team could Livingston start for?

Seriously?

Pistons, Bucks, Jazz right off the top of my head. Probably at least 5 or 6 more.





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[#number6ix#]

Paul Millsap

[sd3035]

I think Matthew Dellavedova is criminally underrated

[Mass Debator]

Both great picks but I'm not going to say there are "great" lowkey players. More like underrated lowkey players.

- I like Jared Sullinger and Avery Bradley.
- Tony Allen if he isn't low key to you.
- Current Amare Stoudemire. Effective in limited minutes.
- Kris Middleton but he isn't quite being used correctly as of recent.
- Omri Casspi has surprised me
- Yeah, Jeremy Lin deserves a mention
- Gordon Hayward always is productive
- Luol Deng killing after moved to PF. Remember the name Josh Richardson
- Aaron Gordon and Fournier
- Will Barton

And like the poster above, Dellavedova.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Kelly Tripucka owns this thread

[Black and White]

Jae Crowder

[Zach LaVine]

Paul Millsap
Definitely a good one, and throughout his whole career essentially.

[Zach LaVine]

Jae Crowder
Not bad, but I think he will build up his rep.