Best shooting guard in the league?

[tragicbronson]

Who would you put at the top. Myself, i'd go with Butler, Harden is too much of a liability on defensive side, Klay lacks ballhandling and shot creation skills and Butler is great on both sides of the court and he doesn't have one clear weakness as these 2 guys i consider other 2 best shooting guards in the league.

So my top 5 would be

Butler
Harden
Thompson
DeRozan
Redick

I guess you could put Hayward there if you consider him as a shooting guard...

Your choice?

[lilteapot]

Butler
Wade
Klay

[masonanddixon]

Butler sucks.

My vote goes to Klay. Great shooter and good defense. Thats what I want from my SG.

[aj1987]

Harden
Butler
Wade

[Fallen Angel]

Harden
Butler
Thompson

[Fallen Angel]

https://www.instagram.com/p/rXnpiENlTw/

[Legends66NBA7]

At least for this season ?


1) James Harden
2) DeMar DeRozan
3) Jimmy Butler
4) Dwayne Wade
T-5) Thompson/McCollum/Middleton

I gave it a 3 way tie for 5th because even though Klay is the most efficient out of the 3, he's got by far the best team out of the group. I think he's got a huge advantage being on that team and he gets assisted a lot of shots, where as I don't see a drop off if Middleton or McCollum (offense at least) were there.

I put DeMar 2nd since Jimmy and Wade have missed a lot of time. He's done a lot for the Raps, even though he's not the best player on the team.


Harden is clear cut #1 for me, even if his defensive effort is cringe worthy bad.

[keep-itreal]

Danny Green

[Zach LaVine]

Danny Green
:coleman:

[Hopper15]

Butler's durability is a concern.

[Mass Debator]

At least for this season ?


1) James Harden
2) DeMar DeRozan
3) Jimmy Butler
4) Dwayne Wade
T-5) Thompson/McCollum/Middleton
Probably right on the money, but I'll put Klay above Wade because I expect more out of Dwyane.

[feyki]

Harden
Klay
Butler
Derozan
Wade

[hold this L]

At least for this season ?


1) James Harden
2) DeMar DeRozan
3) Jimmy Butler
4) Dwayne Wade
T-5) Thompson/McCollum/Middleton

I gave it a 3 way tie for 5th because even though Klay is the most efficient out of the 3, he's got by far the best team out of the group. I think he's got a huge advantage being on that team and he gets assisted a lot of shots, where as I don't see a drop off if Middleton or McCollum (offense at least) were there.

I put DeMar 2nd since Jimmy and Wade have missed a lot of time. He's done a lot for the Raps, even though he's not the best player on the team.


Harden is clear cut #1 for me, even if his defensive effort is cringe worthy bad.
Ehh no way Derozan is that high

1. Harden
2. Jimmy Buckets
3. Klay
4. Derozan
5. Wade
6. McCollum

[miggyme1]

Harden
Klay
Butler
Derozan
Wade


REALLY????



Anyway the best sg In the league right now is demar derozan and its not even close. He better get some MVP votes. A more efficient kobe that likes to pass.

[feyki]

REALLY????



Anyway the best sg In the league right now is demar derozan and its not even close. He better get some MVP votes. A more efficient kobe that likes to pass.

I couldn't wrote McCallum or Redick over Wade .

Yes , Derozan has good form right now . He's on the Klay/Butler level . But Harden ? Harden way better .

[Zach LaVine]

REALLY????



Anyway the best sg In the league right now is demar derozan and its not even close. He better get some MVP votes. A more efficient kobe that likes to pass.
If you ignore the most essential qualities, doesn't that make him not like Kobe at all? This is like saying "Curry is a perimeter oriented Shaq that can make free throws."

[Showtime2001]

Harden
Butler
Thompson
DeRozan

[miggyme1]

If you ignore the most essential qualities, doesn't that make him not like Kobe at all? This is like saying "Curry is a perimeter oriented Shaq that can make free throws."


oh 4real...wow I didn't know curry and shaq played the same position. You learn something new everyday. Thanks pal

[AintNoSunshine]

Klay
Curry
Westbrook

[pastis]

Harden
Klay
Butler
Derozan
Wade

yep!

[k0kakw0rld]

Klay
Demar




The rest

[Zach LaVine]

oh 4real...wow I didn't know curry and shaq played the same position. You learn something new everyday. Thanks pal
So because Derozan plays the same position as Kobe, they are very comparable despite differing on the qualities that are most characteristic of Kobe?

[Legends66NBA7]

Ehh no way Derozan is that high

1. Harden
2. Jimmy Buckets
3. Klay
4. Derozan
5. Wade
6. McCollum

Please state reasons why.


A more efficient kobe that likes to pass.

Simply not true. I question at times if he's passing enough. He's become a really good draw and kicker, but he doesn't have the playmaking Kobe had in his prime. Kobe was a legit triple threat player too, could hurt from anywhere on the floor, better mid-range, better 3 point shooter, got to the line more, better post moves, etc...

[miggyme1]

So because Derozan plays the same position as Kobe, they are very comparable despite differing on the qualities that are most characteristic of Kobe?


the correlation I was making was that they do indeed play the same position. idk what you are smoking but you need to seek rehab. comparing shaq to curry????:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[miggyme1]

Please state reasons why.



Simply not true. I question at times if he's passing enough. He's become a really good draw and kicker, but he doesn't have the playmaking Kobe had in his prime. Kobe was a legit triple threat player too, could hurt from anywhere on the floor, better mid-range, better 3 point shooter, got to the line more, better post moves, etc...


nobody said anything about playmaking.......he's a great and willing passer. Kobe never was and never will be a playmaker..idk why fans of certain player always try and make their favorite player something they never were. Just stop it....kobe was a great player but he was nothing of a playmaker...playmakers don't stop being playmakers......if you don't believe me....why does andre miller till have a job in the nba at the age of 60? lol

[Genaro]

REALLY????



Anyway the best sg In the league right now is demar derozan and its not even close. He better get some MVP votes. A more efficient kobe that likes to pass.
:biggums:
You just went full retard. A more efficient Kobe would be something like MJ.
And BTW even the efficient part isn't true. From 2000 until 2013 Kobe shot better than the 44.5 FG% that DeMar is shooting in all but 3 years. And on a bigger volume.

[Zach LaVine]

the correlation I was making was that they do indeed play the same position. idk what you are smoking but you need to seek rehab. comparing shaq to curry????:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
By that logic every SG is a "Kobe with..." or "Kobe without..." That is a dumb comparison. :facepalm

My example of Shaq to Curry was to point out how dumb your comparison was by showing an example of another bad comparison. I'm sorry you are too stupid to understand that. You need to seek education.

[miggyme1]

By that logic every SG is a "Kobe with..." or "Kobe without..." That is a dumb comparison. :facepalm

My example of Shaq to Curry was to point out how dumb your comparison was by showing an example of another bad comparison. I'm sorry you are too stupid to understand that. You need to seek education.


I didn't know logic was taking someones opinion and claiming it to be a fact. If you feel he isn't a more efficient kobe...that's fine. But you too stupid to understand that "LOGIC". Keep comparing shaq to curry though. That was beautiful.





DONE

[miggyme1]

:biggums:
You just went full retard. A more efficient Kobe would be something like MJ.
And BTW even the efficient part isn't true. From 2000 until 2013 Kobe shot better than the 44.5 FG% that DeMar is shooting in all but 3 years. And on a bigger volume.


Cool.....I didn't know mj was still in the league. Who does he play for now? For the LAST time I was comparing derozan to a current SG.......meaning a sg that's still playing.......






OH AND SG STANDS FOR SHOOTING GUARD.




DONE

[tragicbronson]

You all have your arguments, but it's probably because i can't really stand Harden but even when i try to think objectively, i can't put him in front of Butler. What has Harden done, especially this season, to be considered better than Jimmy overall, let's exclude his recent knee problems. He refuses to put some effort on defense, he doesn't care about it and he sometimes seems careless and out of rythm, he's a talented offensive player, i'll give him that, and he was really good last season, but even then, one of the biggest comebacks happened with him chilling on the sidelines.

Jimmy has more heart, passion and i don't even have to talk about defense. He may not be as naturally talented offensive player as Harden, but he works his ass off, he improved so much and from a defensive specialist he became their legit number 1 option on offense. Give me Butler over Harden every time.

[qrich]

https://smithbeachwood.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/284899288alihib_ph.jpg?w=480

[Gileraracer]

Butler
Derozan
Har_en
Whistle

[Zach LaVine]

Cool.....I didn't know mj was still in the league. Who does he play for now? For the LAST time I was comparing derozan to a current SG.......meaning a sg that's still playing.......






OH AND SG STANDS FOR SHOOTING GUARD.




DONE
You don't understand the points anybody makes, do you?

[WayOfWade]

You all have your arguments, but it's probably because i can't really stand Harden but even when i try to think objectively, i can't put him in front of Butler. What has Harden done, especially this season, to be considered better than Jimmy overall, let's exclude his recent knee problems. He refuses to put some effort on defense, he doesn't care about it and he sometimes seems careless and out of rythm, he's a talented offensive player, i'll give him that, and he was really good last season, but even then, one of the biggest comebacks happened with him chilling on the sidelines.

Jimmy has more heart, passion and i don't even have to talk about defense. He may not be as naturally talented offensive player as Harden, but he works his ass off, he improved so much and from a defensive specialist he became their legit number 1 option on offense. Give me Butler over Harden every time.
I agree, Butler gets it done in both sides of the ball, genuinely cares about the game and is (right now) much more likeable. What flaws does Butler have in his game? He's kind of like a really good Jack of All Trades player, that's why he'd be my #1 in the league today.
Then Harden would probably come second; I prefer DeMar DeRozan but Harden is just so potent offensively, it'd be hard to say no.
#3 is DeMar, he's really stepped up his game this year and is a much better team player, plus he has awesome dunks.
Klay would have to be a solid fourth, if only because he's the second option on his team, we've never seen him for extended time as the #1 guy.
Fifth could go to Wade of McCollum, you could choose either and be fine; but as of now I'd probably go with McCollum, guy is playing great this year behind Damian

[comerb]

I couldn't wrote McCallum or Redick over Wade .

Yes , Derozan has good form right now . He's on the Klay/Butler level . But Harden ? Harden way better .

Harden doesn't play defense. Klay/Butler are among the better defenders in the league.

[feyki]

Harden doesn't play defense. Klay/Butler are among the better defenders in the league.

So what ? Harden is one of the best offensive player in the game . And i am sure Harden will get more mvp votes than those names .

[PP34Deuce]

Harden may not play defense but his ability to score 30 points and give you rebound and assists offset it.

He's still number one. After that, you have Butler, then the others are equal ground

[Fire Colangelo]

DeRozan should be at least top 3 this season.

[bdreason]

Harden
Butler
Derozan
Klay
Wade
McCollum
Redick

[comerb]

So what ? Harden is one of the best offensive player in the game . And i am sure Harden will get more mvp votes than those names .

What do you mean so what? Defense is half the game and Harden is an absolute disaster at it. If we're ranking players, I'm not ignoring half the game of basketball. And I damn sure don't give two ****s who has more mvp votes

[feyki]

What do you mean so what? Defense is half the game and Harden is an absolute disaster at it. If we're ranking players, I'm not ignoring half the game of basketball. And I damn sure don't give two ****s who has more mvp votes

I don't ignore half of the game . But you did with ignoring his offensive impact .