Most underrated rappers

[andgar923]

I was listening to Black Rob's album yesterday and it dawned on me how underrated he is.

He's not gonna make you rewind and look up Genius for the lyrics. But the dude is simply CONSISTENT as f*ck and dropped 3 great albums. He has an ear for selecting the right beats and is a good writer.

One of my all time favs is also Masta Ace. Just like with Black Rob he is CONSISTENT, never heard a weak line, always smooth and always a great writer. Both of them may not the craziest spitters, but can create great sounding albums with better than average writing. On the flip side you have dude's like Cannibus, Deck and Jadakiss that spit fire but can't drop a decent album.

Ace and Rob are two consistently good rappers, both better than average and good enough to hold their own. But the next two are GOAT level rappers that rarely get any mention as GOAT level rappers:

Black Thought
Ghost face


It's hard to think of an artist that has dropped as many quality albums in any genre as Ghost. The man continues to drop some great albums, and I can't think of any rapper that's dropped as many classics. He continues to drop heat even at the tail end of his career. But to top it all off he isn't just some dude dropping good albums, he spits fire, pure hot shit. His wordplay is ridiculous and few can match him.

I think Black Thought gets lost because The Roots don't appeal to the masses, had he been in the Wu or another more successful group, he'd be considered amongst the GOATS easily. Had he worked as a solo artist produced by Preemo he'd be a top 10 rapper. Black Thought is an emcee's MC, he spits bars, he rhymes, he writes great songs, and has maintained a consistent level of raw dopeness that's hard to match. Put him in a cypher right now against anyone, and he'd probably come out on top.

Yet those two dudes rarely get mentioned as top rappers and they certainly deserve to be in the top 10-15 convo, while Ace and Rob deserve more props.

[kurple]

Kool G Rap

[kurple]

Rappin 4 Tay and Reakwon too

[fiddy]

Royce
Kevin Gates
Chamillionaire

[andgar923]

Kool G Rap

One of my personal favs.

Only reason I don't think he's underrated is because he tends to be ranked as a top 10 from time to time... at least he used to.

Other rappers have mentioned him as an influence as well.

I have him in my top 10 that's for sure, he's someone that's cemented and aint going nowhere.

[MP.Trey]

Locksmith
CyHi Da Prynce
Black Thought, the supreme lyricist.

[ILLsmak]

Reakwon too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWnk7nmQGPE

Rae is a monster. To have dudes talkin about Killarmy and Rae on ISH, it must be a good day.

Rae is one of those dudes who is consistent on his own albums but will kill someone on their own song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmXwTgVujdo

Like when Slick Rick wanted to come back and prove he was still one of the best, goes in with various other artists but Rae just bodies him.

"Rock dungarees... "

-Smak

[SexSymbol]

Rappin 4 Tay and Reakwon too
THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTgXuzvfcJc
GOAT flow

[Terahite]

R.A. the Rugged Man
Kool Keith
Matlock

[CuterThanRubio]

Mac Dre

Most Wu Tang music is nonsensical gibberish, I don't consider random words strung together to be "good lyrics" just because they rhyme well.

People spend so much time trying to decipher their songs searching for deeper wisdom when there isn't any, it makes me laugh.

[NumberSix]

Mac Dre

Most Wu Tang music is nonsensical gibberish, I don't consider random words strung together to be "good lyrics" just because they rhyme well.

People spend so much time trying to decipher their songs searching for deeper wisdom when there isn't any, it makes me laugh.
It makes sense if you're familiar with the 5 percenter slang they use.

[Done_And_Done]

AZ
Black Thought for sure.

[Done_And_Done]

I was listening to Black Rob's album yesterday and it dawned on me how underrated he is.

He's not gonna make you rewind and look up Genius for the lyrics. But the dude is simply CONSISTENT as f*ck and dropped 3 great albums. He has an ear for selecting the right beats and is a good writer.

One of my all time favs is also Masta Ace. Just like with Black Rob he is CONSISTENT, never heard a weak line, always smooth and always a great writer. Both of them may not the craziest spitters, but can create great sounding albums with better than average writing. On the flip side you have dude's like Cannibus, Deck and Jadakiss that spit fire but can't drop a decent album.

Ace and Rob are two consistently good rappers, both better than average and good enough to hold their own. But the next two are GOAT level rappers that rarely get any mention as GOAT level rappers:

Black Thought
Ghost face


It's hard to think of an artist that has dropped as many quality albums in any genre as Ghost. The man continues to drop some great albums, and I can't think of any rapper that's dropped as many classics. He continues to drop heat even at the tail end of his career. But to top it all off he isn't just some dude dropping good albums, he spits fire, pure hot shit. His wordplay is ridiculous and few can match him.

I think Black Thought gets lost because The Roots don't appeal to the masses, had he been in the Wu or another more successful group, he'd be considered amongst the GOATS easily. Had he worked as a solo artist produced by Preemo he'd be a top 10 rapper. Black Thought is an emcee's MC, he spits bars, he rhymes, he writes great songs, and has maintained a consistent level of raw dopeness that's hard to match. Put him in a cypher right now against anyone, and he'd probably come out on top.

Yet those two dudes rarely get mentioned as top rappers and they certainly deserve to be in the top 10-15 convo, while Ace and Rob deserve more props.

I could listen to Ace's "Beautiful" every single day of the year

[andgar923]

Mac Dre

Most Wu Tang music is nonsensical gibberish, I don't consider random words strung together to be "good lyrics" just because they rhyme well.

People spend so much time trying to decipher their songs searching for deeper wisdom when there isn't any, it makes me laugh.
Nonsensical to you perhaps.

Yes it may take one a listen or two to catch and interpret what they said, but that is part of what makes them so ill. They simply aren't spitting gibberish for the sake of rhyming or flow. There is meaning to every word uttered. Even ODB's drunken style has meaning behind it.

[Kawhi]

AZ
Definitely. AZ was a lyricgod. Rather Unique is an f-ing classic.

[CuterThanRubio]

It makes sense if you're familiar with the 5 percenter slang they use.

That isn't completely true either.

The 5 percenter stuff is very lame and I am familiar with most of it since I've listened to a lot of their stuff (Gods and earths lol? Enough of the mumbo jumbo!)

Ghost himself has admitted that all of the cryptic lyrics on Supreme Clientele have no greater significance beyond filling empty space.

Listen to Nutmeg and tell me it isn't totally stupid.

"Scooby snack jurassic plastic gas booby trap"

Random word generator rapping isn't my thing.

[Patrick Chewing]

Chino XL
Freddie Foxx

[That_Admiral]

Blu
El-P (Before he blew up in RTJ)
Freddie Gibbs
Pharoahe Monch

I also feel like MF Doom and Mos Def don't always get recognised for the shit they've done.

Also has anyone listened to "A Piece of Strange" by the CunninLynguists (seriously amazing album)

[kurple]

Definitely. AZ was a lyricgod. Rather Unique is an f-ing classic.
AZ is another great shout

The Format changed my life at some point

[kurple]

That isn't completely true either.

The 5 percenter stuff is very lame and I am familiar with most of it since I've listened to a lot of their stuff (Gods and earths lol? Enough of the mumbo jumbo!)

Ghost himself has admitted that all of the cryptic lyrics on Supreme Clientele have no greater significance beyond filling empty space.

Listen to Nutmeg and tell me it isn't totally stupid.

"Scooby snack jurassic plastic gas booby trap"

Random word generator rapping isn't my thing.

I guess Eminem and Macklemore also need fans.

[kurple]

Blu
El-P (Before he blew up in RTJ)
Freddie Gibbs
Pharoahe Monch

I also feel like MF Doom and Mos Def don't always get recognised for the shit they've done.

Also has anyone listened to "A Piece of Strange" by the CunninLynguists (seriously amazing album)
Blu n exile - Soul amazing... Amazing song

Been a gibbs fans for years (shoutout to gary, indiana) and Pinata was such a great album. Madlib was the perfect producer for freddie

[CuterThanRubio]

I guess Eminem and Macklemore also need fans.

Did you not see my original post in this thread?

Salty Wu fanboys can't handle a dose of reality, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, you have that suicidal pvssy Capital Steez in your avatar (Lol, how old are you, man? That's some kiddie bs)

[QUOTE]Speaking on the album, Ghost told The Source in 2000,

[kurple]

Bro no need to be ashamed you know every Macklemore song by heart



And how does me liking Capital Steez make me a kid? He and Joey was/is realer than anyone you listen to. And Steez should be right up your alley since you dont like gibberish


Every rapper has bars that dont make sense but flows

[To4]

Fabolous
E-40

[plowking]

kurple always proves how ignorant and obnoxious he is in these types of threads.

[Done_And_Done]

AZ is another great shout

The Format changed my life at some point

Huge. Absolutely monstrous music making right there.

[kNIOKAS]

Masta Ace and The Last Emperor are my two all time favourite rappers. Consider

[L.Kizzle]

Grand Puba.
8Ball
Keith Murray

[Akrazotile]

Grand Puba.
8Ball
Keith Murray



Yes

[L.Kizzle]

Sadat X
David Banner
POS from De La Soul
Fat Pat
Spice 1

[CuterThanRubio]

Bro no need to be ashamed you know every Macklemore song by heart



And how does me liking Capital Steez make me a kid? He and Joey was/is realer than anyone you listen to. And Steez should be right up your alley since you dont like gibberish


Every rapper has bars that dont make sense but flows

What do you mean realer than lol

Those young guys are just emulating the stuff they liked from the 90s, I wouldn't call that very original or captivating, it sucks.

And unlike you I don't live vicariously through people I don't know, what kind of loser would prop up a guy like joey badass and say "hes realer than anyone you listen to" haha.

He's not "realer" than me personally, sorry I'm not a soft wuss like you, tears falling into your lap as you quietly listen to Steez through your headphones. I don't give a fvck about anything else, that kid is little weirdo making dusty throwback songs that people aren't listening to because they aren't worthwhile, be my guest.

There is a difference between basing your entire style on gibberish and having a few struggle bars here and there.

It's not that big of a deal, I'm just clowning for the sake of it since you feel so high and mighty because you listen to garbage underground try hard rap.

I bet you think Aesop Rock is dope, too lol get outta here!

:coleman:

[Bourne]

Treach (sp?) from naughty by nature is the best rapper you've never youtube'd

[L.Kizzle]

Treach (sp?) from naughty by nature is the best rapper you've never youtube'd
Who hasn't heard of Naught by Nature? They have 2 of the most popular 90s hip-hop songs of all-time in "OPP" and "Hip Hop Hooray."

[Bourne]

Who hasn't heard of Naught by Nature? They have 2 of the most popular 90s hip-hop songs of all-time in "OPP" and "Hip Hop Hooray."

some people. who has heard of a single rapper within that group? probably 41 times more people who havent heard of that group

[fiddy]

Fabolous
E-40
40 water :applause:

[Akrazotile]

The homie McGruff that used to rap with Big L and CoC was actually pretty dope.

Journalist, the one-time Canibus, sidekick was nice.

Shiek Louch gets overlooked because of Jada and Styles.

Blaq Poet and Screwball.

Capone.

[NumberSix]

Who hasn't heard of Naught by Nature? They have 2 of the most popular 90s hip-hop songs of all-time in "OPP" and "Hip Hop Hooray."
Uptown Anthem >

[KNOW1EDGE]

Rad Kass and Big K.R.I.T

[L.Kizzle]

Uptown Anthem >
True, though it was too grimy for pop radio. OPP and Hooray were top ten pop hits.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Big L is not known by a lot of the new school rap fans. I had to show a few people I know who he was.

Some UK rapper named Logic was sick when he was still at it. I think he quit to become an activist.

[Cali Syndicate]

Masta Ace and The Last Emperor are my two all time favourite rappers. Consider

Last emperor's secret wars lines up some very underrated rappers. Last emp is very underrated

[Cali Syndicate]

Big L is not known by a lot of the new school rap fans. I had to show a few people I know who he was.

Some UK rapper named Logic was sick when he was still at it. I think he quit to become an activist.

Logic as in young Sinatra? He's American....maybe thinking of someone else

[KyrieTheFuture]

Action Bronson

[detroitkid816]

I love this topic. Black Thought is the ONLY MC who has gotten better after being in the game as long as he has been in it, which is at least 20-21 years. Some of the features he's been dropping lately are some of the BEST VERSES OF HIS CAREER, which is saying a lot. I will also add that The Roots might have the best discography in the history of rap, which makes Black Thought's underrated status make no sense. Never really been into Ghost like that though; just not my cup of tea.

Ras Kass used to be amazing. I feel like Soul on Ice is probably one of the best albums, lyrically, that I've ever heard. IMO better than illmatic, reasonable doubt, and even capital punishment. Lyrically speaking that is.

An underground nicca I mess with is Illogic. He's got some of the most poetic bars I've ever heard, and his album "Celestial Clockwork" should be regarded as an underground classic, but no one really knows about it.

[macmac]

Masta Ace and The Last Emperor are my two all time favourite rappers. Consider

Love these two picks right here.

I would add Elzhi to the list. Elmatic might be a top 10 album of all time, which is crazy because it's a remake album.

[Godzuki]

dmx

nobody got that hood nikka vibe to his shit than this GOAT :applause:

fukk tupac :coleman:

[SilkyJohnson]

Apathy
Vinnie Paz
Celph Titled
Reef The Lost Cauze
K-Rino
Esoteric
RA The Rugged Man
Inspectah Deck
Skyzoo
Torae
CunninLynguists
Madchild
Killah Priest
Canibus

[andgar923]

Apathy
Vinnie Paz
Celph Titled
Reef The Lost Cauze
K-Rino
Esoteric
RA The Rugged Man
Inspectah Deck
Skyzoo
Torae
CunninLynguists
Madchild
Killah Priest
Canibus

K-Rino is the Southern Cannibus.

I was floored when I first heard him.

[macmac]

Apathy
Vinnie Paz
Celph Titled
Reef The Lost Cauze
K-Rino
Esoteric
RA The Rugged Man
Inspectah Deck
Skyzoo
Torae
CunninLynguists
Madchild
Killah Priest
Canibus


Ehh, Apathy had hype coming up. Just couldn't capitalize. Amazing lyricist but can't make good tracks. Vinny Paz and Celph titled two of my favorites but I feel like Paz at least gets his fair share of love from the underground.

Mad child is way too corny tho

[CuterThanRubio]

Apathy
Vinnie Paz
Celph Titled
Reef The Lost Cauze
K-Rino
Esoteric
RA The Rugged Man
Inspectah Deck
Skyzoo
Torae
CunninLynguists
Madchild
Killah Priest
Canibus

LOL


You have horrible taste.

Angry pseudo intellectuals cramming as many words as they can into a single verse who are incapable of crafting a song with any sense of melodic structure, it's unbearable.

There is a reason why those guys aren't well known, they don't make good songs, they are just monotone ramblers.

Somehow that qualifies as "good rapping" to nerdy virgin white kids, go figure.

[stalkerforlife]

MGK
Yelawolf

[kurple]

LOL


You have horrible taste.

Angry pseudo intellectuals cramming as many words as they can into a single verse who are incapable of crafting a song with any sense of melodic structure, it's unbearable.

There is a reason why those guys aren't well known, they don't make good songs, they are just monotone ramblers.

Somehow that qualifies as "good rapping" to nerdy virgin white kids, go figure.
have you ever listened to cunninlynguists?

[ace23]

https://soundcloud.com/slihmm

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