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Im Still Ballin
03-20-2016, 12:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNlNXtcYodc

Silky smooth post play

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kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-20-2016, 12:20 PM
:eek: at 3:04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNlNXtcYodc#3m04s). Dude hit that turn-around fadeaway with like 3 defenders on him. A millisecond later and it would've been blocked. MJ not only had his fundamentals down, but his timing and ability to read defenses were impeccable.

Greatest finals player of all time.

3ball
03-20-2016, 05:06 PM
Greatest finals player of all time.



Greatest postseason performer of all time - imagine if your favorite player averaged 5-7 more ppg on better efficiency - that was MJ compared to Lebron:



Career Playoffs - PER GAME:

JORDAN: 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 2.1 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 48.7 fg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg
LEBRON: 28.2 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.7 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.7 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg


Career Playoffs - PER 100 POSSESSIONS:

JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 2.2 oreb.. 6.1 dreb.. 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 2.7 stl.. 1.1 blk.. 48.7 fg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg
LEBRON:. 36.5 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 9.3 dreb.. 8.6 ast.. 4.5 tov.. 2.2 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg


Career Finals - PER GAME:

JORDAN: 33.6 ppg.. 6.0 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.65 bpg.. 48.1 fg
LEBRON: 26.4 ppg.. 9.6 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.54 bpg.. 44.6 fg



There's never been a number 1 option that scored 5-7 more ppg on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.

Jordan's massive scoring edge on superior efficiency is far more valuable than Lebron's 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers) and 2.5 def rebound edge (MJ had more offensive rebounds).

Lebron's assist edge is particularly meaningless considering he achieves his assists by lowering his TEAMMATES' assists and playmaking, as the stats show (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11709473&postcount=1).

Furthermore, Jordan scored 10 more ppg than his 2nd option for every playoff series of his career AND led the team in passing (MJ led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49))... Lebron was never required to do that - he has several series where he wasn't even the team's leading scorer.

bigkingsfan
03-20-2016, 07:22 PM
Only 90's superstars would brick two late Ft's.

WayOfWade
03-20-2016, 07:38 PM
Twas a Sunday, the Mailman don't deliver on Sundays

SouBeachTalents
03-20-2016, 07:43 PM
Greatest postseason performer of all time - imagine if your favorite player averaged 5-7 more ppg on better efficiency - that was MJ compared to Lebron:



Career Playoffs - PER GAME:

JORDAN: 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 2.1 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 48.7 fg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg
LEBRON: 28.2 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.7 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.7 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg


Career Playoffs - PER 100 POSSESSIONS:

JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 2.2 oreb.. 6.1 dreb.. 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 2.7 stl.. 1.1 blk.. 48.7 fg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg
LEBRON:. 36.5 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 9.3 dreb.. 8.6 ast.. 4.5 tov.. 2.2 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg


Career Finals - PER GAME:

JORDAN: 33.6 ppg.. 6.0 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.65 bpg.. 48.1 fg
LEBRON: 26.4 ppg.. 9.6 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.54 bpg.. 44.6 fg



There's never been a number 1 option that scored 5-7 more ppg on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.

Jordan's massive scoring edge on superior efficiency is far more valuable than Lebron's 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers) and 2.5 def rebound edge (MJ had more offensive rebounds).

Lebron's assist edge is particularly meaningless considering he achieves his assists by lowering his TEAMMATES' assists and playmaking, as the stats show (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11709473&postcount=1).

Furthermore, Jordan scored 10 more ppg than his 2nd option for every playoff series of his career AND led the team in passing (MJ led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49))... Lebron was never required to do that - he has several series where he wasn't even the team's leading scorer.

The fact you have to bring up LeBron in a thread that literally has nothing to do with him shows how truly threatened you are by him. The sad thing is, your message is doing the exact opposite of what you intend. Comparing LeBron to Jordan literally dozens of times every single day is the best possible compliment you can give LeBron, and it basically says he deserves comparison to the GOAT

DoctorP
03-20-2016, 08:08 PM
Jordan, always a move ahead of the defense mentally. Pippen, Longley came through with clutch baskets.

Bulls defense had trouble with the Jazz.

Malone choked those free-throws.

Jordan didn't choke.

Real14
03-20-2016, 08:42 PM
What a time that was. I knew MJ had to win that title especially since space Jam came out that season. I couldn't stand Malone and his damn rogaine commercials too.

LBJFTW
03-20-2016, 09:51 PM
The fact you have to bring up LeBron in a thread that literally has nothing to do with him shows how truly threatened you are by him. The sad thing is, your message is doing the exact opposite of what you intend. Comparing LeBron to Jordan literally dozens of times every single day is the best possible compliment you can give LeBron, and it basically says he deserves comparison to the GOAT

Is that really what you took from that? That 3ball is threatened? Maybe it's just nice knowing that the guy he watched growing up shits on the guy you watched growing up. :confusedshrug:

SouBeachTalents
03-20-2016, 09:55 PM
Is that really what you took from that? That 3ball is threatened? Maybe it's just nice knowing that the guy he watched growing up shits on the guy you watched growing up. :confusedshrug:

Yes, I'd say when a guy makes literally dozens of posts a day about one player, just reposting the same shit in every single thread over and over agin, and even bringing him up in threads that have nothing to do with him, that means that player is on his mind 24/7, and it can't be for no reason

DoctorP
03-20-2016, 09:58 PM
3ball wins. rent free.

Lakersfamftw
03-21-2016, 02:00 AM
3ball slaying these LeBrick stans.

sportjames23
03-22-2016, 03:35 AM
3ball killing them softly.

Stringer Bell
03-23-2016, 07:11 PM
Mailman doesn't deliver on Sundays.

The Mailman's job is also to deliver the package into the slot and leave and go about his business, just like he did when he was 20 and impregnated his 12 year old neighbor. I guess you don't have to be 18 to receive a package from the Mailman.

riseagainst
03-23-2016, 07:32 PM
Kobe did something like this and he gave Pau Gasol an offensive rebound.