Freedom of Speech is nonexistent

[9erempiree]

Liberal students are protesting around the nation to stop anyone that is a conservative from giving a speech. This has been trending since late 2014.

Protesters are starting chaos to block speeches from candidates.

President Obama does not care. As mentioned during the ferguson riots, as a president he can address the situation and the people will listen. He's a supposed leader and he's not leading. He let ferguson go to hell just like he is letting free speech go to hell.

Freedom of Speech is gone people. What we learn from this administration is that the constitution doesn't mean jack.

I predict more chaos and more protests at universities that involve anything conservative.

[Akrazotile]

The liberal mob is as rabid as the Puritans of the 17th century.


http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-massachusetts/the%20witch-2,%20joseph%20e.%20baker,%201892-600.jpg

[longtime lurker]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png

[Akrazotile]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png


Yale Students Petition To Repeal First Amendment (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-17/america-its-over-yale-students-sign-petition-repeal-first-amendment)

[dude77]

these protesters are going into private rallies and starting shit .. they caused trump to cancel that one in chicago the other day .. they don't have any 'right' to go into a private function and fk shit up .. stick to your little gay protests outside .. once you go inside, you're fair game to get your ass beat or arrested

[dude77]

Yale Students Petition To Repeal First Amendment (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-17/america-its-over-yale-students-sign-petition-repeal-first-amendment)

jesus fk :facepalm

[9erempiree]

There is no excuse for this crazy phenomenon except the fact that our president and government is allowing it.

I find it funny that chaos is allowed and it will become the norm.

Ferguson basically desensitized us. I guess ferguson is the extreme and any other chaos would seem tame when it's not.

[~primetime~]

Lol, protesting IS freedom of speech

[Akrazotile]

Lol, protesting IS freedom of speech


Not when it is intended to physically impede someone else's.

[dude77]

Lol, protesting IS freedom of speech

not when you're going into private functions and causing disruptions which is what these vermin are doing

[Patrick Chewing]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png


If someone or a group of people forcibly shut down an event because they do not agree with my opinions, then yes, they are violating my free speech rights.

[~primetime~]

not when you're going into private functions and causing disruptions which is what these vermin are doing
You just described every protest ever.

[~primetime~]

If someone or a group of people forcibly shut down an event because they do not agree with my opinions, then yes, they are violating my free speech rights.
No they aren't, freedom of speech just guarantees you won't be thrown in jail for you opinions.

[Akrazotile]

You just described every protest ever.


Lol dude, you can't just protest on private property because you feel like it. Maybe it's more of a trespassing issue really, but how sad is it that liberals are risking jail time to prevent some strangers from sharing different opinions? :oldlol:

Never seen a group of people so shook

[~primetime~]

Lol dude, you can't just protest on private property because you feel like it. Maybe it's more of a trespassing issue really, but how sad is it that liberals are risking jail time to prevent some strangers from sharing different opinions? :oldlol:

Never seen a group of people so shook
Fine, but the thread title is :rolleyes:

Honestly complaining that our freedom of speech doesn't exist feels like something a libtard would do.

[Akrazotile]

Fine, but the thread title is :rolleyes:

Honestly complaining that our freedom of speech doesn't exist feels like something a libtard would do.


But you don't think it's pretty scary that the left is literally trying to PHYSICALLY SHUT DOWN private, peaceful rallies and protests because they disagree with the opinions?

Like... boycotting, condemning, counter-protesting publicly, this stuff is all fair game. Liberals are trying to forcibly prevent people with different beliefs from having events. They're actually committing crimes like trespassing, battery, and even assaulting horses :roll: to stop people from communicating ideas they don't agree with.

It's actually pretty disturbing.

[nathanjizzle]

Trumptards on full display in this thread

[NumberSix]

Lol, protesting IS freedom of speech
Yes it is. But when Donald Trump pays to rent a private venue to put on an event, there is no "right" to protest on that property. You have a right to protest outside on public property, but not to disrupt the event.

I believe there is also a law that it is illegal to protest any venue where secret service is present. The constitutional legality of that is questionable, but I believe that is a law.

[nathanjizzle]

Yes it is. But when Donald Trump pays to rent a private venue to put on an event, there is no "right" to protest on that property. You have a right to protest outside on public property, but not to disrupt the event.

I believe there is also a law that it is illegal to protest any venue where secret service is present. The constitutional legality of that is questionable, but I believe that is a law.

the UIC pavillion is a public venue. the event was more or less public, they gave out tickets to anyone who signed up for it. No, you dont only have freedom of speech on the sidewalk and street, you have it anywhere you go. you can speak without being persecuted, even inside a trump rally. obviously, the fault is on the organizers who gave tickets to protesters and didnt hire enough security. just because you cannot know what each persons intentions are doesnt mean you dont assume the fault. trumptards on full effect.

[Pointguard]

But you don't think it's pretty scary that the left is literally trying to PHYSICALLY SHUT DOWN private, peaceful rallies and protests because they disagree with the opinions?

Like... boycotting, condemning, counter-protesting publicly, this stuff is all fair game. Liberals are trying to forcibly prevent people with different beliefs from having events. They're actually committing crimes like trespassing, battery, and even assaulting horses :roll: to stop people from communicating ideas they don't agree with.

It's actually pretty disturbing.
Trump was telling people to get violent with those who dissented with his ideas. That set up a stage for push back. Once Trump showed fear, on the stage after encouraging others to be bold and violent on his behalf, I just don't see human nature letting him get free passes after that, especially when he wants to be the leader of the free world. A lot of people feel that their lives would be totally changed if they don't stop him. They aren't going to be quiet. That's Trump's reality that he created. You think they are going to be quiet and wait til he has martial law? He's this bold without power or any experience with political power.

And Trump spends an incredible amount of presidential time speaking down on people and his cronies, and not enough time on policies despite his total lack of experience dealing with power and diplomacy is painfully obvious. Its like he's running for President of a troll forum while forgetting the content of the forum. He's not concerned about his content or how he offends people but wants his supporters to get violent over HIM. Its disturbing that you think that as a leader he shouldn't have standards, push back for his actions and speech while trying for the top position in the world.

[Labissiere]

OP doesn't realize that the constitution protects the freedom of speech from the government, not from everybody else.

[Pointguard]

Yes it is. But when Donald Trump pays to rent a private venue to put on an event, there is no "right" to protest on that property. You have a right to protest outside on public property, but not to disrupt the event.

Fundraisers yes. Rallies have public guidelines in most cases. Trump supporters started this mess. The guy with the elbow, fully encouraged by Trump's rhetoric... attacked somebody. Then offended parts of the public said we are going to make sure that we can go places without being attacked. The bolder Trump's talk got, the bolder the protest got. Now its part of the same game. Trump could say he was irresponsible in starting this but we know that isn't his way. The protesters are going to be creative and up their game. Trump doesn't have power and can't up his game. Its going to get more interesting.

How does that saying go? You can't cry throw tomatoes in a crowded rally? Well, hopefully content of speech will mean more than freedom of it in the long run. If Trump is respectful he wouldn't have this problem in the first place.

[poido123]

Trump was telling people to get violent with those who dissented with his ideas. That set up a stage for push back. Once Trump showed fear, on the stage after encouraging others to be bold and violent on his behalf, I just don't see human nature letting him get free passes after that, especially when he wants to be the leader of the free world. A lot of people feel that their lives would be totally changed if they don't stop him. They aren't going to be quiet. That's Trump's reality that he created. You think they are going to be quiet and wait til he has martial law? He's this bold without power or any experience with political power.

And Trump spends an incredible amount of presidential time speaking down on people and his cronies, and not enough time on policies despite his total lack of experience dealing with power and diplomacy is painfully obvious. Its like he's running for President of a troll forum while forgetting the content of the forum. He's not concerned about his content or how he offends people but wants his supporters to get violent over HIM. Its disturbing that you think that as a leader he shouldn't have standards, push back for his actions and speech while trying for the top position in the world.


The main issue everyone is missing here is that the instigators of the trouble are turning up to Trump rallies to start shit.


If you want to call out trump's rhetoric that's fine, but if protesters stayed away from his rallies, this wouldn't even be a talking point.


don't like what he says? ignore him or vote against him.


turning up to his events and instigating some of the far right crowd? You get what's coming to you.


white boys don't start shit in Compton. It's common fcking sense.

[9erempiree]

OP doesn't realize that the constitution protects the freedom of speech from the government, not from everybody else.

So violence is ok?....as long as it doesn't involve the government right?

[Labissiere]

So violence is ok?....as long as it doesn't involve the government right?
My point was strictly about your lack of understanding of what "freedom of speech" refers to in the constitution.

[FillJackson]

Liberal students are protesting around the nation to stop anyone that is a conservative from giving a speech. This has been trending since late 2014.

Protesters are starting chaos to block speeches from candidates.

President Obama does not care. As mentioned during the ferguson riots, as a president he can address the situation and the people will listen. He's a supposed leader and he's not leading. He let ferguson go to hell just like he is letting free speech go to hell.

Freedom of Speech is gone people. What we learn from this administration is that the constitution doesn't mean jack.

I predict more chaos and more protests at universities that involve anything conservative.Freedom of speech is rampant in America and it's ridiculous to argue otherwise. It would ridiculous to have the President or even the federal government step in over small scale incidents that venue security or the local police are well capable of taking care of.

You should sentenced to live in a country where there is no freedom of speech for a year, a country where your post above could land you in jail.

[FillJackson]

Freedom of speech is rampant in America and it's ridiculous to argue otherwise. It would ridiculous to have the President or even the federal government step in over small scale incidents that venue security or the local police are well capable of taking care of.

You should sentenced to live in a country where there is no freedom of speech for a year, a country where your post above could land you in jail.

There's an interesting argument that could be made about freedom of speech and dissent and suppression of speech, but your post is like a thousand miles away from it. Other candidates have been interrupted or had protests, none handle it in the authoritarian way that Trump does when he urges the crowd to act as the police and longs for the day protestors "are carried out on stretchers."

[NumberSix]

Fundraisers yes. Rallies have public guidelines in most cases. Trump supporters started this mess. The guy with the elbow, fully encouraged by Trump's rhetoric... attacked somebody. Then offended parts of the public said we are going to make sure that we can go places without being attacked. The bolder Trump's talk got, the bolder the protest got. Now its part of the same game. Trump could say he was irresponsible in starting this but we know that isn't his way. The protesters are going to be creative and up their game. Trump doesn't have power and can't up his game. Its going to get more interesting.

How does that saying go? You can't cry throw tomatoes in a crowded rally? Well, hopefully content of speech will mean more than freedom of it in the long run. If Trump is respectful he wouldn't have this problem in the first place.
Hey genius. The one single time Trump "encouraged violence" was when he told his supporters to stop protesters from throwing tomatoes.

[Pointguard]

The main issue everyone is missing here is that the instigators of the trouble are turning up to Trump rallies to start shit.
Dissenters frequently show up at everybody's rallies. Bernie and Hillary protesters were more aggressive early on. And they dont offend people like Trump does. Trump isnt a politician and like you showed a lot of naivete in dealing with them.



If you want to call out trump's rhetoric that's fine, but if protesters stayed away from his rallies, this wouldn't even be a talking point. Politics is about power and being heard. You're great material for being a quiet follower, but not all people are like you.



don't like what he says? ignore him or vote against him. Sure let him get hate momentum before he gets power. A lot of those protesters feel that he hates them and dont want a 1930's situation.





turning up to his events and instigating some of the far right crowd? You get what's coming to you. The protesters are winning big. They got GOP trying to find ways to oust Trump. They got national attention and seemingly will every step of the way. They arent getting attacked at rallies anymore... . They created a situation where he can still lose the nomination after he had wrapped it up. They definitely lowered the volume knob on Trump's bravado which has been his engine. Lastly he can only win in an extremely divided America and one that will surely lead to the dissolution of the Republican party.


white boys don't start shit in Compton. It's common fcking sense. I don't know how deluded you are but we're talking about the highest office in the world.

[NumberSix]

Dissenters frequently show up at everybody's rallies. Bernie and Hillary protesters were more aggressive early on. And they dont offend people like Trump does. Trump isnt a politician and like you showed a lot of naivete in dealing with them.
Says who?


The protesters are winning big. They got GOP trying to find ways to oust Trump. They got national attention and seemingly will every step of the way. They arent getting attacked at rallies anymore... . They created a situation where he can still lose the nomination after he had wrapped it up. They definitely lowered the volume knob on Trump's bravado which has been his engine. Lastly he can only win in an extremely divided America and one that will surely lead to the dissolution of the Republican party.
You don't pay much attention to politics, huh?

The protestors didn't get the GOP to do anything. They've been trying to knock Trump off for a while now. This didn't just start when some paid protestors starting acting up.

[Nick Young]

It's hilarious that the Dems have managed to spin freedom of speech in to a bad things, and their sheepy little followers are parroting the rhetoric without question.

Freedom of speech is a fundamental right.

Why the **** would a self-respecting progressive liberal be fighting against it?

[senelcoolidge]

All of this is happening and not a word from the President. Evil bastard. The President should be adamant about upholding the first amendments and the subsequent ones as well. He should be vocal against violence and anything that disturbs freedom of speech.

[NumberSix]

It's hilarious that the Dems have managed to spin freedom of speech in to a bad things, and their sheepy little followers are parroting the rhetoric without question.

Freedom of speech is a fundamental right.

Why the **** would a self-respecting progressive liberal be fighting against it?
The left genuinely doesn't understand the concept of rights. They don't understand the idea of principles. They only think about doing whatever it takes to achieve their idea of the collective good.

Free speech is the most obvious example. They don't get the concept of it being a right. They genuinely don't understand why we can't just make it illegal to say bad things.

[UK2K]

Fine, but the thread title is :rolleyes:

Honestly complaining that our freedom of speech doesn't exist feels like something a libtard would do.

USC student senator faces impeachment for being conservative


A student senator at the University of Southern California is the subject of a formal complaint seeking his removal from office for expressing his conservative opinions, such as inviting Milo Yiannopoulos to speak on campus and filming an event for Campus Reform.

Jacob Ellenhorn, who also serves as president of the USC College Republicans (CRs), received the complaint Monday afternoon, and immediately composed a statement denouncing the allegations as a politically motivated assault on his freedom of expression, sharing copies of both with Campus Reform.

The complaint against Ellenhorn, made by Program Board Executive Director Diana Jimenez, accuses him of three violations, all related to his political activities.

[QUOTE]Jimenez next claims that Ellenhorn

[Pointguard]

Hey genius. The one single time Trump "encouraged violence" was when he told his supporters to stop protesters from throwing tomatoes.
In Alabama he said protesters deserved to be roughed up. "They would be carried out on a stretcher folks." "I'd like to punch him in the face.""and if they protested once they would not do it again so easily (due to being so ruffled up)." "The problem it takes so long (to remove protesters) is that nobody wants to hurt anybody anymore." Refused to repudiate the Klan (a hate terrorist group) three times on national tv. Not to mention "there would be riots" if GOP tried to change its own rules regarding him.

I dont know if its because you can't count or just playing dumb but it wasn't just once.

He seems more likely to abridge first amendment rights than any American candidate ever.

[dude77]

You just described every protest ever.

private function .. you can't go into someone's house and try to shut THEIR SPEECH down .. and it's pretty telling that some of you are even defending that .. if it was their right to do it, they wouldn't be thrown out .. so now the left supports shutting down the free speech of others, if they don't agree with them ..

I wonder if you would be defending this, if it was trump supporters going into hc/bernie rallies trying to shut them down

[UK2K]

In Alabama he said protesters deserved to be roughed up. "They would be carried out on a stretcher folks." "I'd like to punch him in the face.""and if they protested once they would not do it again so easily (due to being so ruffled up)." "The problem it takes so long (to remove protesters) is that nobody wants to hurt anybody anymore." Refused to repudiate the Klan (a hate terrorist group) three times on national tv. Not to mention "there would be riots" if GOP tried to change its own rules regarding him.

I dont know if its because you can't count or just playing dumb but it wasn't just once.

He seems more likely to abridge first amendment rights than any American candidate ever.

Annnndddd the exit is that way...


Tucson police officer Brandon Tatum attended Saturday’s Donald Trump rally in Tucson on Saturday as a curious civilian.

What he witnessed shocked his conscience so much he recorded a video to describe his experience as a Black man at a Trump rally. Tatum described violent protesters tackling Trump supporters, getting in Trump supporter’s faces, loudly yelling ‘Black lives matter!’ and swearing such that parents had to shield their children from the protesters. He also said the Trump supporters were not racist toward him as an African-American man, contrary to media portrayals of Trump rallies.


“During the event, I mean these people were acting a fool. I’m talking about cussing and screaming. You guy’s seen some pictures. There was somebody wearing a Ku Klux Klan hat, saying ‘Eff Donald Trump,’ flipping people off. The group that I posted were yelling ‘Eff Donald Trump!” in front of these kids. They had families down there, I seen this one lady covering her daughter’s ears. Because the people were just outlandish and out of control.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/video-black-tucson-cop-shocked-by-evil-behavior-of-trump-protesters-praises-restraint-of-trump-supporters/

[UK2K]

private function .. you can't go into someone's house and try to shut THEIR SPEECH down .. if it was their right to do it, they wouldn't be thrown out .. so now the left supports shutting down the free speech of others, if they don't agree with them ..

I wonder what the response here would be if trump supporters started crashing democrat rallies and causing trouble .. something tells me it wouldn't be what I'm reading

It would be headline news. 24/7 around the clock coverage with every leftist buzzword in their arsenal being thrown at everyone and everything.

But... because its the other way around, they are just practicing free speech. A free speech that apparently Republicans are not allowed to have. :lol

[gigantes]

Liberal students are protesting around the nation to stop anyone that is a conservative from giving a speech. This has been trending since late 2014.
i thought it was just trump.

god knows if anyone should expect something like that, it would be him.

[Pointguard]

Says who?

Now you are so blind that you don't know that his tone is highly disrespectful to the majority of Americans? You honestly don't know this?


You don't pay much attention to politics, huh?

The protestors didn't get the GOP to do anything. They've been trying to knock Trump off for a while now. This didn't just start when some paid protestors starting acting up.
Your naivete is dangerous. Once Trump didn't repudiate America's most well known hate/terrorist group and his supporters decided to hit on folks, protesters weren't going to just take it anymore. It's hilarious that you think they would have to be paid. You're clueless.

[NumberSix]

In Alabama he said protesters deserved to be roughed up. "They would be carried out on a stretcher folks." "I'd like to punch him in the face.""and if they protested once they would not do it again so easily (due to being so ruffled up)." "The problem it takes so long (to remove protesters) is that nobody wants to hurt anybody anymore."
Did you even bother to look up the context in which any of these comments were made?

Refused to repudiate the Klan (a hate terrorist group) three times on national tv.
:rolleyes:

Not to mention "there would be riots" if GOP tried to change its own rules regarding him.
Again, you didn't make any attempt to look at the context of this comment. "There will be riots" is a figure of speech that means "people will be very upset". Only a flaming retard who listened to that comment in context would think he's in someway advocating a riot.

This is exactly why people are for Trump. They're sick of the PC speech nazis who INTENTIONALLY take any word or phrase they can out of context and use it to disingenuously demonize the person who said it.

[dude77]

In Alabama he said protesters deserved to be roughed up. "They would be carried out on a stretcher folks." "I'd like to punch him in the face.""and if they protested once they would not do it again so easily (due to being so ruffled up)." "The problem it takes so long (to remove protesters) is that nobody wants to hurt anybody anymore." Refused to repudiate the Klan (a hate terrorist group) three times on national tv. Not to mention "there would be riots" if GOP tried to change its own rules regarding him.

I dont know if its because you can't count or just playing dumb but it wasn't just once.

He seems more likely to abridge first amendment rights than any American candidate ever.

he disavowed them quite clearly on a friday .. then over the weekend, the media proceeded to harrass him with the same question over and over trying to goad him into a 'bad answer' .. I'm sure that can get annoying as fk when you don't even know those people ..

this mfer in the wh actually had TIES WITH A RACIST .. attended his church for 20 yrs .. but now suddenly you care about something being 'dangerous' lol .. you don't have a problem with a guy, who attended a racist preacher's church for 20 yrs, being president so gtfo with that shit

[NumberSix]

Your naivete is dangerous. Once Trump didn't repudiate America's most well known hate/terrorist group and his supporters decided to hit on folks...
:rolleyes:


protesters weren't going to just take it anymore. It's hilarious that you think they would have to be paid. You're clueless.
:rolleyes:

[dude77]

Now you are so blind that you don't know that his tone is highly disrespectful to the majority of Americans? You honestly don't know this?

Your naivete is dangerous. Once Trump didn't repudiate America's most well known hate/terrorist group and his supporters decided to hit on folks, protesters weren't going to just take it anymore. It's hilarious that you think they would have to be paid. You're clueless.

no .. you have it all wrong .. trump supporters aren't the ones going into other rallies and trying to cause problems .. they're going to their own happy rallies to support their candidate .. the problem here are the 'protesters' .. not trump supporters .. trump supporters are the ones WHO AREN'T GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE .. that's why these protesters are going to continue to get their asses handed to them if they go into these rallies

[Dresta]

The liberal mob is as rabid as the Puritans of the 17th century.


http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-massachusetts/the%20witch-2,%20joseph%20e.%20baker,%201892-600.jpg
The orthodox are gonna be orthodox, no matter the time and place (and these obviously change with time). Hysterical and showy moralism is a staple of the human psyche, with are without religion, and these people are proving it; that is is aimed in a different direction doesn't mean it isn't the same impulses at work, basically, the religious impulse woefully misguided.

What's particularly funny about this group though, is they don't think they're promulgating orthodoxies, but fashion themselves as rebels; it's this pathetic need to swim with and against the tide, to hate the "power structure" but to chant as a voice among many in the faceless crowd.

Essentially, a need to belong, and a need for certainty. Very basic human needs.

[Pointguard]

Annnndddd the exit is that way...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/video-black-tucson-cop-shocked-by-evil-behavior-of-trump-protesters-praises-restraint-of-trump-supporters/
Wait so you're implying that Trump is such an idiot that he won't repudiate a terrorist hate group that is undermining him? And he's running for what office again? This would make him stupid, impractical, wimpy and without values. He's earned his haters and this comes with the territory. Bernie and Hillary were hit hard by Black Lives Matter first and in a big way. They dealt with it much better than Trump is dealing with his protesters.

He's responsible for his mouth because he's running for President, folks.

[Nick Young]

In Alabama he said protesters deserved to be roughed up. "They would be carried out on a stretcher folks." "I'd like to punch him in the face.""and if they protested once they would not do it again so easily (due to being so ruffled up)." "The problem it takes so long (to remove protesters) is that nobody wants to hurt anybody anymore." Refused to repudiate the Klan (a hate terrorist group) three times on national tv. Not to mention "there would be riots" if GOP tried to change its own rules regarding him.

I dont know if its because you can't count or just playing dumb but it wasn't just once.

He seems more likely to abridge first amendment rights than any American candidate ever.
Trump Supporters aren't committing violence. Bernie and Hillary supporters are the ones committing acts of violence to silence expression. And even worse, Bernie and Hillary are doing NOTHING to condemn these acts of violence their followers are committing. By remaining silent, they are encouraging their followers to continue on their violent riotous path.


Do you realize how twisted the little narrative you're following is?

I'll explain it to you:



1. Trump alludes that he wishes to "punch someone in the face" but he doesn't actually cause any violence. His followers don't cause violence.

2. Bernie and Hillary supporters commit actual acts of violence in the name of shutting down free speech.


in your little deluded mind
=


That Trump is at fault for people creating riots in order to shut down his rallies.


How the **** do you and other lefties arrive at that conclusion?


The ones responsible for silencing peaceful political rallies and fighting against freedom of speech ARE DEMOCRATS. The ones committing acts of violence in the name of their political beliefs ARE DEMOCRATS.


How the **** is Trump at fault for Democrats committing acts of violence in the name of their political beliefs?


You boneheads are completely lost without the John Oliver narrative telling you what to do and think.


The Grand Dragon of the KKK has publicly endorsed Hillary. Why hasn't Hillary renounced her allegiance to the KKK yet? (http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/14/kkk-grand-dragon-endorses-hillarys-hidden-agenda/)

[NumberSix]

Wait so you're implying that Trump is such an idiot that he won't repudiate a terrorist hate group that is undermining him? And he's running for what office again? This would make him stupid, impractical, wimpy and without values. He's earned his haters and this comes with the territory. Bernie and Hillary were hit hard by Black Lives Matter first and in a big way. They dealt with it much better than Trump is dealing with his protesters.

He's responsible for his mouth because he's running for President, folks.
:rolleyes:

[Pointguard]

Did you even bother to look up the context in which any of these comments were made?

:rolleyes:

Again, you didn't make any attempt to look at the context of this comment. "There will be riots" is a figure of speech that means "people will be very upset". Only a flaming retard who listened to that comment in context would think he's in someway advocating a riot. If you are associated with advocating violence (or obviously doing things that would require legal fees) you don't use words like riot as option words, when running for President. Common sense.


This is exactly why people are for Trump. They're sick of the PC speech nazis who INTENTIONALLY take any word or phrase they can out of context and use it to disingenuously demonize the person who said it.
PC is crying about free speech encroachments after he was talking like he already got martial law on his side and was going to send all dissenters to encampments. Which side are you on? You don't have clue to which side you're on.

[Pointguard]

:rolleyes:
You're way too old to be going around rolling your eyes like a little girl when you aren't even defending your views. Speak your mind.

[NumberSix]

If you are associated with advocating violence (or obviously doing things that would require legal fees) you don't use words like riot as option words, when running for President. Common sense.

PC is crying about free speech encroachments after he was talking like he already got martial law on his side and was going to send all dissenters to encampments. Which side are you on? You don't have clue to which side you're on.
:rolleyes:

[gigantes]

i still don't understand why anyone thinks trump is anything but a joke as a candidate.

from what i understand, the dude started out very rich and wound up losing money through the years compared to if he had simply invested it at average market and interest growth. not to mention his businesses have repeatedly gone bankrupt across the years, leaving plenty of others holding the bag.

really, his specialty is acting rich, getting people excited about how they can be like him, and then consistently fleecing them. his books are a joke dedicated to his own narcissism and blowhardiness. his learning institutes are a joke even less legit and productive than scientology.

the guy has admitted in interviews that he doesn't even like self-examining. how do you grow as a person if you can't even be honest with yourself?

everything about the guy screams straight-up con-artist to me, and now you jokers want to see him elected president...?

[~primetime~]

i still don't understand why anyone thinks trump is anything but a joke as a candidate.

from what i understand, the dude started out very rich and wound up losing money through the years compared to if he had simply invested it at average market and interest growth. not to mention his businesses have repeatedly gone bankrupt across the years, leaving plenty of others holding the bag.

really, his specialty is acting rich, getting people excited about how they can be like him, and then consistently fleecing them. his books are a joke dedicated to his own narcissism and blowhardiness. his learning institutes are a joke even less legit and productive than scientology.

the guy has admitted in interviews that he doesn't even like self-examining. how do you grow as a person if you can't even be honest with yourself?

everything about the guy screams straight-up con-artist to me, and now you jokers want to see him elected president...?
yep, it's shocking...and scary

next year we can expect Kim Kardashian in the race

[UK2K]

Wait so you're implying that Trump is such an idiot that he won't repudiate a terrorist hate group that is undermining him? And he's running for what office again? This would make him stupid, impractical, wimpy and without values. He's earned his haters and this comes with the territory. Bernie and Hillary were hit hard by Black Lives Matter first and in a big way. They dealt with it much better than Trump is dealing with his protesters.

He's responsible for his mouth because he's running for President, folks.

What does that have to do with the crowd in Arizona, the anti-Trump crowd, instigating the violence and profanity?

What does what you just wrote have to do with anything I posted?

[UK2K]

:rolleyes:

Haha thats what I was going to highlight too...

Dude has been absolutely brainwashed and can't even see it. being fed the leftist agenda, and he's swallowing it whole. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[oh the horror]

yep, it's shocking...and scary

next year we can expect Kim Kardashian in the race



And these dudes will be arguing the fruitless merits of her "rights" as well.



I've stopped having the convo with these posters. Half of them are confused about the boundaries and ramifications of free speech.

[UK2K]

i still don't understand why anyone thinks trump is anything but a joke as a candidate.

from what i understand, the dude started out very rich and wound up losing money through the years compared to if he had simply invested it at average market and interest growth. not to mention his businesses have repeatedly gone bankrupt across the years, leaving plenty of others holding the bag.

really, his specialty is acting rich, getting people excited about how they can be like him, and then consistently fleecing them. his books are a joke dedicated to his own narcissism and blowhardiness. his learning institutes are a joke even less legit and productive than scientology.

the guy has admitted in interviews that he doesn't even like self-examining. how do you grow as a person if you can't even be honest with yourself?

everything about the guy screams straight-up con-artist to me, and now you jokers want to see him elected president...?

But he didn't, and now he has how much money?

How much money has he lost? Not nearly as much as he's gained (was he born with $4 billion dollars? No? Then he's gained more than lost by a wide margin), but that's not important. Let's focus on what he lost...

Just wanted to point out your obvious bias right from the beginning. I agree with everything else you said, but I wanted to highlight your slanted opinion.

[gigantes]

yep, it's shocking...and scary

next year we can expect Kim Kardashian in the race
the difference is, i would at least expect her to admit that she doesn't have a clue about politics and that she needs as much qualified help as she can get.

[gigantes]

But he didn't, and now he has how much money?
less than he would have if he hadn't of embarked on all his various schemes, apparently.



Just wanted to point out your obvious bias right from the beginning. I agree with everything else you said, but I wanted to highlight your slanted opinion.
what bias? that's what the body of financial experts seem to have said about trump.

am i missing something...?

[UK2K]

less than he would have if he hadn't of embarked on all his various schemes, apparently.



what bias? that's what the body of financial experts seem to have said about trump.

am i missing something...?

You claimed he ended up losing money... and then that was it. He did, kinda sometimes. But at the same time, he made more, and more, and more, and more. He bought investments that were already bankrupt (Penn Central Transportation Company and the Commodore Hotel, which he turned into The Grand Hyatt) and made them profitable.

Dude has numerous hotels, resorts, and golf courses. He's a globally recognizable brand name.

Any successful businessman has had failures. But he wouldn't be sitting on billions of dollars if his story ended at "wound up losing money through the years compared to if he had simply invested it at average market and interest growth."

That was your bias.

[gigantes]

You claimed he ended up losing money... and then that was it. He did, kinda sometimes. But at the same time, he made more, and more, and more, and more. He bought investments that were already bankrupt (Penn Central Transportation Company and the Commodore Hotel, which he turned into The Grand Hyatt) and made them profitable.

Dude has numerous hotels, resorts, and golf courses. He's a globally recognizable brand name.

Any successful businessman has had failures. But he wouldn't be sitting on billions of dollars if his story ended at "wound up losing money through the years compared to if he had simply invested it at average market and interest growth."

That was your bias.
i claimed he lost money... compared to if he had simply invested it at an average market return.

don't be puttin' words and biases in my mouth, holmes. :no:



EDIT: not to mention, he hardly built up his teetering empire from average means. his daddy bankrolled him with $200 million in play money, and he eventually became a pretty good scam artist.

[9erempiree]

i claimed he lost money... compared to if he had simply invested it at an average market return.

don't be puttin' words and biases in my mouth, holmes. :no:



EDIT: not to mention, he hardly built up his teetering empire from average means. his daddy bankrolled him with $200 million in play money, and he eventually became a pretty good scam artist.

If he would have invested the money than that would be a trust fund brat wouldn't it? The fact that he borrowed money from his dad and made billions out of it should be admired.

If Trump is getting crap for making billions imagine the backlash he got if he just sat their with his money.

If he sat their with his money than he wouldn't be the guy we know of today.

[UK2K]

i claimed he lost money... compared to if he had simply invested it at an average market return.

don't be puttin' words and biases in my mouth, holmes. :no:



EDIT: not to mention, he hardly built up his teetering empire from average means. his daddy bankrolled him with $200 million in play money, and he eventually became a pretty good scam artist.

And then stopped there... like that was the end of the story. He turned $200 million into $4 billion? I can name you a lot of lottery winners who have a whole lot less than that.

That's like saying Michael Jordan was a decent player who missed a lot of shots.... and then ending it right there. Yes, he did miss a ton of shots.

[UK2K]

If he would have invested the money than that would be a trust fund brat wouldn't it? The fact that he borrowed money from his dad and made billions out of it should be admired.

If Trump is getting crap for making billions imagine the backlash he got if he just sat their with his money.

If he sat their with his money than he wouldn't be the guy we know of today.

Then people would bitch that he's wealthy and is just sitting on his money.

The fact that businesses with his name on them employees thousands and thousands of people... yet he's a failure. :lol :lol

Yeah, I bet he wouldn't turn down a night at one of Trump's resorts though.

[Akrazotile]

don't be puttin' words and biases in my mouth, holmes. :no:



Here, let me do just that:




I have no concern for logical consistency, objective truth, the good of my own country, my only concern is using liberal culture and talking points as a springboard to feel like I mean something. I get to be the guy who stands up on the soapbox for arbitrary values and get a little recognition for once in my otherwise meaningless life. I espouse what I'm supposed to espouse, I condemn what I'm supposed to condemn, and I don't think critically about any of it. I do it because I need a side to belong to, and I am socially conditioned to believe taking the liberal side means I'm morally elevated. I couldn't define 'morals' if I had 30 years to rehearse it and I have no tangible ground on which to consider myself superior to the vast majority of people. Still, I'm desperate to do so, so when my overseers tell me to attack a specific republican candidate, a philosophy, an institution, whatever my sights have been set on for me, I attack mindlessly.


You oughtta quit that shit boy.

[gigantes]

If he would have invested the money than that would be a trust fund brat wouldn't it? The fact that he borrowed money from his dad and made billions out of it should be admired.

If Trump is getting crap for making billions imagine the backlash he got if he just sat their with his money.

If he sat their with his money than he wouldn't be the guy we know of today.
no, a "trust fund brat" would be more like getting a monthly stipend and living large.

he wanted to be more than just a smart investor with that startup money. he wanted to be a big-shot playa. that's the difference. that's why he lost so much of his and other peoples' money over the years.

this is the same guy who loves to buy up all kinds of stuff, slap his logo on it, then vacate at a profit. he doesn't give a shit about who gets left behind, and he apparently never did.

that's how he got here.

[gigantes]

Here, let me do just that:

You oughtta quit that shit boy.
lol... you can't really be that bad at recognising facetiousness, can you? :lol

[Akrazotile]

lol... you can't really be that bad at recognising facetiousness, can you? :lol


No, but I can recognize your bullshit. You always smugly tout the liberal lines, then when challenged you back up, stutter, twist, deflect. You did this shit recently with global warming. You've done it ever since I can remember you posting.

You always wanna preach the talking points. You never actually back them up with substance.

If you don't know why you actually support certain issues and candidates, or hate others, then don't sound off about them like a blowhard.

[gigantes]

No, but I can recognize your bullshit. You always smugly tout the liberal lines, then when challenged you back up, stutter, twist, deflect. You did this shit recently with global warming. You've done it ever since I can remember you posting.

You always wanna preach the talking points. You never actually back them up with substance.

If you don't know why you actually support certain issues and candidates, or hate others, then don't sound off about them like a blowhard.
you are so completely full of shit, starhead or whatever your sorry-ass name is.

i most certainly do not always "tout the liberal lines." i think sanders is a fraud and i worry that hillary is a lying egomaniac. i think the refugee crisis is a disaster for europe and those mofos would be deported down to the last man if i had my way. i tend to like the death penalty and think there are way too many people on earth right now.

you don't know shit, dude.

if i "back up and stutter" it's generally because trying to reason with some of you numbskulls is a lost cause akin to ramming ones' head in to a wall. that's why sometimes i throw you a bone or two, conceding that you might have a point in some areas so as to avoid the typically infantile ISH shouting match. it's an approach that can work with reasonable people, but then, who am i kidding?

dude, you don't have the slightest clue about global warming or the ability to understand the facts and the science. really, where the f-ck were you when myself and others were laboriously going through the details and nuances of the science, way back when? exactly.

apparently in your little world, arguing and ignoring reality is a solution to various problems. is it any wonder the science supporters checked out in the later GW threads, leaving a bunch of you monkeys to run around, screaming and throwing feces at the walls?

so yeah, sure... go ahead. bookmark this post like the obsessive little weasel that you are so that you can one day produce it out of the blue in some pitiful attempt to rebut me.


aw, just kidding... you have a nice day now, heah! :cheers:

[Pointguard]

What does that have to do with the crowd in Arizona, the anti-Trump crowd, instigating the violence and profanity?

What does what you just wrote have to do with anything I posted?

Your post:
"During the event, I mean these people were acting a fool. I’m talking about cussing and screaming. You guy’s seen some pictures. There was somebody wearing a Ku Klux Klan hat, saying ‘Eff Donald Trump,’ flipping people off."

My post:
Wait so you're implying that Trump is such an idiot that he won't repudiate a terrorist hate group (the Klan) that is undermining him? And he's running for what office again? This would make him stupid, impractical, whimpy and without values.

You can't connect the dots??? Really?

The idiot in the video says within the first minute of the video that before going to the rally that "the lord was on my side and I would be alright (to go to it)." In other words, this clown was expecting or thought he could die, despite nobody dying at these rallies. But in the next sentence he says it was shocking and didn't expect to see what he saw. Was he expecting to see the devil after he died? This is within the first MINUTE. No need to watch the rest. He's so confused that he confused into his next life time.

[Akrazotile]

Wait so you're implying that Trump is such an idiot that he won't repudiate a terrorist hate group that is undermining him? And he's running for what office again? This would make him stupid, impractical, wimpy and without values. He's earned his haters and this comes with the territory. Bernie and Hillary were hit hard by Black Lives Matter first and in a big way. They dealt with it much better than Trump is dealing with his protesters.

He's responsible for his mouth because he's running for President, folks.


You sound really bitter.


Also, when did Bernie and Hillary repudiate the terrorist hate group Black Lives Matter? I missed that press release.

[Pointguard]

Haha thats what I was going to highlight too...

Dude has been absolutely brainwashed and can't even see it. being fed the leftist agenda, and he's swallowing it whole. :oldlol: :oldlol:
Funny that Trump speaks at a fourth grade level http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a39031/trump-fourth-grade-level/

and you and Numbersix think he's speaking in sophisticated terms with Number six even suggesting metaphors. Despite other posters showing you two that he has a common theme in his 4th grade level style. Number Six politics are his dad's and its obvious as day because I've never seen him explain himself - but he works the hell out of those emoticons.

[Akrazotile]

Funny that Trump speaks at a fourth grade level http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a39031/trump-fourth-grade-level/

and you and Numbersix think he's speaking in sophisticated terms with Number six even suggesting metaphors. Despite other posters showing you two that he has a common theme in his 4th grade level style. Number Six politics are his dad's and its obvious as day because I've never seen him explain himself - but he works the hell out of those emoticons.


Hey. When did Hillary and Bernie repudiate terrorist hate group black lives madder?

[NumberSix]

Funny that Trump speaks at a fourth grade level http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a39031/trump-fourth-grade-level/

and you and Numbersix think he's speaking in sophisticated terms with Number six even suggesting metaphors. Despite other posters showing you two that he has a common theme in his 4th grade level style. Number Six politics are his dad's and its obvious as day because I've never seen him explain himself - but he works the hell out of those emoticons.
:rolleyes:

[Pointguard]

You sound really bitter.
Hahaha, so I ask two questions and it sounds bitter? That could only mean the answer is bitter in you.


Also, when did Bernie and Hillary repudiate the terrorist hate group Black Lives Matter? I missed that press release.

I never said they repudiated them and there is no need to. Black Lives Matter have never done any acts of terrorism. Bitter people lie and make stuff up because they hate the truth. Bernie and Hillary dealt with them justly. They protest legally and don't have a policy discrimination at all. Bitter people just make nonsense up.

[Blue&Orange]

leaving a bunch of you right wing dumb rednecks to run around, screaming and throwing feces at the walls.

corrected.

[Akrazotile]

Hahaha, so I ask two questions and it sounds bitter? That could only mean the answer is bitter in you.


I never said they repudiated them and there is no need to. Black Lives Matter have never done any acts of terrorism. Bitter people lie and make stuff up because they hate the truth. Bernie and Hillary dealt with them justly. They protest legally and don't have a policy discrimination at all. Bitter people just make nonsense up.

:roll:

https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1411457/ferguson-protest-oakland.jpg

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/15/marine-allegedly-assaulted-mid-burger-at-mcdonalds-as-gang-yelled-do-you-believe-black-lives-matter/


Pointguards response: "You dummy, black people cant be terrorists!!!"

[longtime lurker]

Hey. When did Hillary and Bernie repudiate terrorist hate group black lives madder?

Jesus Christ you're a fvcking idiot. This is why you can't have any productive conversation with someone who believes this.

[Akrazotile]

Longtime Lurker and Pointguard are proud of an America that looks like this:

http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/aa.jpg


THeir only sense of worth in life comes from being Mr. Nanny to minorities. In the white community, they're the weak, ugly, pathetic, laughed-at losers. Hence their resentment. They need to be MR MINORITY DEFENDER MAN!!!! as like a secret superhero complex. They're desperate to be relevant and recognized. But they have no talent. So this is all they can do.

[Akrazotile]

http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Suspect-Dies-Baltimore-20.jpg

"Peaceful Demonstrator."

[Akrazotile]

http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Savage.jpg



durrr durr durrrrr, dats not terror :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[longtime lurker]

Longtime Lurker and Pointguard are proud of an America that looks like this:

http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/aa.jpg


THeir only sense of worth in life comes from being Mr. Nanny to minorities. In the white community, they're the weak, ugly, pathetic, laughed-at losers. Hence their resentment. They need to be MR MINORITY DEFENDER MAN!!!! as like a secret superhero complex. They're desperate to be relevant and recognized. But they have no talent. So this is all they can do.

:lol you try way too hard. But I guess when you're a college dropout test subject with no life prospects you resort to trolling on messageboards.

[Akrazotile]

What's that on the back of his shirt say?


http://patriotupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/black-lives-matter-knife-fight-Baltimore-riots-AP.jpg


Maybe Pointguard or Longtime Lurker can read it for us?


"But but but black people cant be terrorist. Only the wh1te persins. Stupid Trump!!!! STupid stupid Trump!!!! Yur all a bunch of racistttt!!!"

[Akrazotile]

:lol you try way too hard. But I guess when you're a college dropout test subject with no life prospects you resort to trolling on messageboards.



Awww, look at the dumb poser. Show us your fedora bro, and your neckbeard. Tell us about your insecurity complex. The father that hated you for being a f@g. Tell us all about it. We're listening.

[longtime lurker]

What's that on the back of his shirt say?


http://patriotupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/black-lives-matter-knife-fight-Baltimore-riots-AP.jpg


Maybe Pointguard or Longtime Lurker can read it for us?


"But but but black people cant be terrorist. Only the wh1te persins. Stupid Trump!!!! STupid stupid Trump!!!! Yur all a bunch of racistttt!!!"

Your insecurity is only exceeded by your stupidity.

[Akrazotile]

Your insecurity is only exceeded by your stupidity.


http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Suspect-Dies-Baltimore-20.jpg


Keep thinking it impresses people that you're the white guy who denounces white people. Do it some more brah. Show everyone how cool you are. Fit in for once. I know the memories of being picked last all the time linger. Show everyone what a hip contrarian you are by being a white person but like, saying how the stupid white people don't understand black lives matter n stuff man.


Fat ugly emo.

[Akrazotile]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/gty_baltimore_protest_tl_150428_16x9_992.jpg



The problem in these cities is obviously the white people.


Did you all notice how edgy what I just said was?"

[longtime lurker]

http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Suspect-Dies-Baltimore-20.jpg


Keep thinking it impresses people that you're the white guy who denounces white people. Do it some more brah. Show everyone how cool you are. Fit in for once. I know the memories of being picked last all the time linger. Show everyone what a hip contrarian you are by being a white person but like, saying how the stupid white people don't understand black lives matter n stuff man.


Fat ugly emo.

Lmao you're projecting hard. Case in point

http://s27.postimg.org/92dnl3nnn/Photo_on_2016_03_17_at_17_04.jpg

Something that looks like that has the balls to talk about someone else?

[Akrazotile]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-08-11-1439330883-4933652-S2FergusonProtest1-thumb.jpg

Lurker is the wannabe on the left.

[Akrazotile]

Lmao you're projecting hard. Case in point

http://s27.postimg.org/92dnl3nnn/Photo_on_2016_03_17_at_17_04.jpg

Something that looks like that has the balls to talk about someone else?


My St Patty's Day costume is your everyday life, except on this face:

https://sirrealpolitik.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/michael-moore-pizza.jpg

[Akrazotile]

http://murderbymedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/racist-to-mention-black-on-white-crime.png


Sponsored by Lurker

[longtime lurker]

My St Patty's Day costume is your everyday life, except on this face:

https://sirrealpolitik.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/michael-moore-pizza.jpg

Again projecting. Untalented, uneducated, lazy, overweight and no one likes you on the internet or in real life. Your life is one continuous LLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[longtime lurker]

http://murderbymedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/racist-to-mention-black-on-white-crime.png


Sponsored by Lurker

http://s27.postimg.org/92dnl3nnn/Photo_on_2016_03_17_at_17_04.jpg

I'm just going to go ahead and remind you this is what your life has come to. Spouting nonsensical gibberish on a message board. You've learned nothing from when you were banned.

[Akrazotile]

http://s27.postimg.org/92dnl3nnn/Photo_on_2016_03_17_at_17_04.jpg

I'm just going to go ahead and remind you this is what your life has come to. Spouting nonsensical gibberish on a message board. You've learned nothing from when you were banned.


You must be a Nanners alt, because I know you stare at that pic 24/7 and drool over it. Or maybe a Droid101 alt. The closeted libf@gs on this board always go into a tizzy over my pictures.


Can't really blame you since the peer group you hang with looks like this:

http://s10.postimg.org/lngcpk3bt/hipstergyy.jpg

[ROCSteady]

:roll:

https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1411457/ferguson-protest-oakland.jpg

"

Damn that photo deserves an award

[dude77]

:roll:

https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1411457/ferguson-protest-oakland.jpg

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/15/marine-allegedly-assaulted-mid-burger-at-mcdonalds-as-gang-yelled-do-you-believe-black-lives-matter/

http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/aa.jpg


http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Suspect-Dies-Baltimore-20.jpg

http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Savage.jpg




https://www.rooshvforum.com/images/smilies/new/laugh3.gif


that black lives matter photo is perfect .. says it all

[Pointguard]

Again projecting. Untalented, uneducated, lazy, overweight and no one likes you on the internet or in real life. Your life is one continuous LLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I didnt know he deteriorates after two responses. How appropriate is it that his screen name is ACrapSoFoul, so foul you wonder why you responded to it in the first place.