Players who were turned into bail out spot-up shooters

[Ranked 12th]

Ray Allen (2008) - caused by Paul Pierce

Steve Nash (2013) - caused by Kobe

Dragic (2015) - caused by Wade

Klay Thompson (2011) - caused by Steph Curry


Discuss.

[ballinhun8]

Mods

[FKAri]

Shaq - caused by Kobe Bryant

[SouBeachTalents]

Oswald (1963)- caused by Kennedy

[Levity]

it's nice to know that OP doesnt watch/understand basketball.

[brooks_thompson]

Oswald (1963)- caused by Kennedy

Solid

[pastis]

everyone on the rockets

[Real14]

2012- Battier and Mike Miller - who saved LeBron.
2013- R.Lewis and R.Allen- who saved LeBron.

[SouBeachTalents]

2012- Battier and Mike Miller - who saved LeBron.
2013- R.Lewis and R.Allen- who saved LeBron.

2014-2016- Melo not in the playoffs

[Ranked 12th]

2014-2016- Melo not in the playoffs

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Queer14 rekt

[Real14]

2014-2016- Melo not in the playoffs

This has absolutely nothing to do with tha topic genius:oldlol:

I won again!

[Wally450]

Damn, I must have missed Ray Allen being a spot up shooter in Boston.

[Real14]

Damn, I must have missed Ray Allen being a spot up shooter in Boston.
Op is a straight up hater:lol

[FKAri]

Oswald (1963)- caused by Kennedy
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[hateraid]

OP (2016) - caused by HenryGarfunkle

[Haymaker]

Stupid to include Dragic. He's the one running the offense most of the time.

[Fallen Angel]

Chris Bosh

[HiphopRelated]

Stupid to include Dragic. He's the one running the offense most of the time.
And has been damn near terrible spotting up

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Oswald (1963)- caused by Kennedy
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Thunderfan86]

Oswald (1963)- caused by Kennedy
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[Black and White]

Ray Allen (2008) - caused by Paul Pierce

Steve Nash (2013) - caused by Kobe

Dragic (2015) - caused by Wade

Klay Thompson (2011) - caused by Steph Curry


Discuss.

This proves you didn't watch basketball in 2008

[3ball]

Ray Allen (2008) - caused by Paul Pierce

Steve Nash (2013) - caused by Kobe

Dragic (2015) - caused by Wade

Klay Thompson (2011) - caused by Steph Curry


Discuss.


nash was old and already a spot-up shooter

allen and klay have always been mostly spot-up shooters

you might be right about dragic.

[GrapeApe]

Calling Dragic a spot up shooter = you haven't watched a single Heat game all year.

Dragic is the PG and primary ball handler. Wade has been playing primarily off the ball, especially since the break. Most of Wade's ball handling is when Dragic is on the bench or in late-game situations. Even when Wade is the primary ball handler with Dragic on the floor, Dragic rarely shoots spot up shots of any kind. His points come almost exclusively off the dribble. In fact there isn't a single player on the Heat I'd characterize as a spot up shooter.

Seriously, what's the point of just making stuff up? Why not at least TRY to get the facts straight?

[3ball]

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How about Jordan?... He attempted and made more jumpshots in 1997 and 1998 than Curry ever has, and on far better efficiency inside the 3-point line:



.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- links to nba.com data

8-16 ft......... 51.8%, 682 fga........... 46.8%, 126 fga........ 50.0%, 90 fga

16-24 ft....... 48.2%, 495 fga........... 39.4%, 218 fga........ 45.1%, 113 fga




Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)


JORDAN 1997:. 49.3%, 1202 fga

CURRY.. 2015:. 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016:. 45.0%, 160 fga






Dragic is the PG and primary ball handler. Wade has been playing primarily off the ball, especially since the break. Most of Wade's ball handling is when Dragic is on the bench or in late-game situations. Even when Wade is the primary ball handler with Dragic on the floor, Dragic rarely shoots spot up shots of any kind. His points come almost exclusively off the dribble.

Seriously, what's the point of just making stuff up? Why not at least TRY to get the facts straight?


Good to know.. So Wade is playing off-ball like MJ used to huh?.. And what's he doing?... 18 ppg???

MJ scored TWICE that much while playing off-ball, but that's because he was one of the highest volume and best midrange shooters of all time, even much better than Curry...

So imagine prime Wade, but two inches taller and better midrange shooting than Curry... And bigger hands... That's the GOAT.

[GrapeApe]

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How about Jordan?... He attempted and made more jumpshots in 1997 and 1998 than Curry ever has, and on far better efficiency inside the 3-point line:



.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- links to nba.com data

8-16 ft......... 51.8%, 682 fga........... 46.8%, 126 fga........ 50.0%, 90 fga

16-24 ft....... 48.2%, 495 fga........... 39.4%, 218 fga........ 45.1%, 113 fga




Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)


JORDAN 1997:. 49.3%, 1202 fga

CURRY.. 2015:. 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016:. 45.0%, 160 fga




Good to know.. So Wade is playing off-ball like MJ used to huh?.. And what's he doing?... 18 ppg???

MJ scored TWICE that much while playing off-ball, but that's because he was one of the highest volume and best midrange shooters of all time, even much better than Curry...

So imagine prime Wade, but two inches taller and better midrange shooting than Curry... And bigger hands... That's the GOAT.

Yes Wade is playing off the ball, and yes Jordan was better, but Wade is 34 years old. Jordan averaged 28.7 ppg at 34 years old compared to Wade's 19.1, so your math needs some work. Wade is also taking 7 fewer shots per game.

It's irrelevant though because nobody in this thread compared Wade to Jordan, except you. The only point I was making is that Dragic isn't a spot up shooter, nor is any Heat player. How that transitioned into comparing Wade and Jordan as off ball scorers is beyond me.

[Akrazotile]

You could argue Ray Allen was a spot up shooter in 13 and 14 with the Heat due to Wade-ball, although Bron's ability to get guys involved helped to mitigate it somewhat.

[CuterThanRubio]

nash was old and already a spot-up shooter

allen and klay have always been mostly spot-up shooters

you might be right about dragic.

Nash broke his leg in the third game of the season and it effectively curbed his natural style of play and productivity alongside it.

You don't watch modern basketball and it is more and more apparent with every post.

He was not a spot up shooter during ANY point of his career, and was an all-star who led the league in assist total the year before he joined LA, yeah he was old but still dominant, you dumbfvck lol

Also, Dragic is not a spot up shooter, either.

He demanded to be traded because he was forced into that role when the Suns signed Thomas, your NBA pedigree is WEAK, SON!

Jordan highlights only, and I BET you never watched him live during his prime.

Never fails to make me laugh and one of the reasons I created an account on this site, love it!

[GrapeApe]

You could argue Ray Allen was a spot up shooter in 13 and 14 with the Heat due to Wade-ball, although Bron's ability to get guys involved helped to mitigate it somewhat.

Wade was almost exclusively an off ball player in '13 and '14. Regardless, a 38 and 39 year old Ray Allen was SUPPOSED to be a spot up shooter. Why do you think the Heat signed him?

[DoctorP]

Chris Bosh (2012) - LeBron

[aj1987]

2012- Battier and Mike Miller - who saved LeBron.
2013- R.Lewis and R.Allen- who saved LeBron.
Lewis played a total of 47 minutes in the PO's and scored 17 points, you dribbling spastic retard.

[Real14]

Lewis played a total of 47 minutes in the PO's and scored 17 points, you dribbling spastic retard.
He wasn't a spot up shooter for tha queen? :biggums: add Bosh to those years too btw.

[aj1987]

He wasn't a spot up shooter for tha queen? :biggums: add Bosh to those years too btw.
Lewis played 47 minutes TOTAL in the PO's, dumb****.

[GrapeApe]

People are really bringing up Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis on the Heat? :oldlol:

Those guys were in their mid to late 30's. They were brought in SPECIFICALLY to be spot up shooters and stretch the floor. Has this board gotten so dumb that people don't know that teams actually need spot up shooting? That it's an important part of the game? That's one of the reason guys like Allen and Lewis can extend their careers.