View Full Version : Male Tennis Star Thinks Equal Pay For Women Is Dumb
ALBballer
03-21-2016, 10:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycN8_poaG04
First let's get this out of the way, Djokovic's comments aren't as bad as they make it out to be since he is essentially saying women have more obstacles due to dealing with periods once a month, and Raymond Moore's comments are over the top but he has a point to some degree.
But the feminist TYT anchor's argument if women had the same opportunity (i.e. if the TV execs supported women's tennis equally with the mens) they would be paid the same. She thinks it is essentially the system (ala the patriarchy) at fault but fails to realize the simple logic behind the pay discrepancy. Men are better tennis players because they are physically stronger and faster compared to women, thus, men's tennis is probably much more exciting to watch and will attract more fans. This is primary reason why men's tennis more popular...... It's quite simple.
But no we try to treat women and men equally in all aspects of life.
:facepalm
Akrazotile
03-21-2016, 10:13 PM
The logic with SJW groups is always "Equality when we want it. But special treatment when we want that instead."
Women get priority custody in divorce proceedings because TYPICALLY women are more nurturing and have a closer bond with young kids.
Men get paid more in career fields because TYPICALLY men tend to separate themselves at the highest level of most career fields.
That's just what it is. We shouldn't even give the sjw crybaby's the acknowledgment or attention they're seeking with this shit.
I never hear women complaining about custody priority. Or abortion decisions. But when they want things they can't earn, then it becomes a matter of 'teh equality'
Cactus-Sack
03-21-2016, 10:57 PM
Womens tennis is also only 3 sets opposed to mens 5. They are doing literally 60% of the work men are.
Also, just a few things; That dumb cvnt objecting so adamantly to the word "lady" :roll: and fvck that fat turkroach Cenk thinks Moore sounded Australian? What moron.
Cactus-Sack
03-21-2016, 11:10 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)
Relevant.
oarabbus
03-22-2016, 12:12 AM
Womens tennis is also only 3 sets opposed to mens 5. They are doing literally 60% of the work men are.
Also, just a few things; That dumb cvnt objecting so adamantly to the word "lady" :roll: and fvck that fat turkroach Cenk thinks Moore sounded Australian? What moron.
I dont understand why she's so upset by "lady"? Anyone have a clue?
And yeah, women's tennis has less sets... and there was some mess last year when it was decided only they get heat breaks. Why isn't this anchor campaigning for men's heat breaks?
ArbitraryWater
03-22-2016, 08:44 AM
I spoke about it in the tennis thread...
the CEO's choice of words were unfortunate, but they really should thank the men.... if female tennis wasn't played at the same time/venue as mens tennis, it'd be a dying sport like female football/soccer, or cricket... nobody would give much of a damn.
Thats totally besides the point that they literally do not work as much and their product is decisively worse.
It something Men are naturally better at, so they shoudl obviously earn more.
Does anybody bitch around about female models making more than male models?
No, they bring in more $$$ and they're naturally better at it....
AintNoSunshine
03-22-2016, 08:49 AM
NBA should take out 45% of their income to subsidize the WNBA too:oldlol:
And should female porn stars subsidize male counterpart:lol Equal pay.
NumberSix
03-22-2016, 08:51 AM
Male models should get paid as much as female models
#Equality4MaleModels
I spoke about it in the tennis thread...
the CEO's choice of words were unfortunate, but they really should thank the men.... if female tennis wasn't played at the same time/venue as mens tennis, it'd be a dying sport like female football/soccer, or cricket... nobody would give much of a damn.
Thats totally besides the point that they literally do not work as much and their product is decisively worse.
It something Men are naturally better at, so they shoudl obviously earn more.
Does anybody bitch around about female models making more than male models?
No, they bring in more $$$ and they're naturally better at it....
Unfortunate, but true.
Unfortunately, you can't say the truth anymore if it offends anyone.
Which is why our country is going down the shitter to begin with.
Brunch@Five
03-22-2016, 09:53 AM
I hate TYT. They're too darn sensitive and twist words all the time. Sure, the guy had a poor choice of words, but he clearly said that women "should get on their knees ... and pray to god" - there was no sexual aspect to what he said, only what TYT wanted to understand. Same with the attractiveness: the guy said that there are some "attractive prospects" and it was clearly alluding to their athletic (and business) potential - only when explicitly asked by a journalist of how he valued their physical attractiveness did that come into play. Is he supposed to say "no they're not physically attractive"?
On topic: obviously men should earn more. They work more (5 vs 3 sets) and they get better results (ratings, advertisement). This should be no debate.
Men getting paid based on their own commercial value and women getting paid based on the men's commercial value is not equal pay. At least not in the right definition of equal pay.
Men getting paid based on their own commercial value and women getting paid based on the men's commercial value is not equal pay. At least not in the right definition of equal pay.
How so?
Men are paid based on the revenue they generate. Women are paid by the revenue they generate.
What's the problem?
aj1987
03-22-2016, 11:02 AM
http://s18.postimg.org/e0zj3kqsn/4_Ui0o_JG.jpg
Nick Young
03-22-2016, 11:08 AM
He's absolutely right. The women play shorter games, draw less, and bring in less viewers. Why the hell should they get paid the same as the men?
It would be sexism if the women were paid the same as the men-for playing less tennis and drawing less viewers. If the women want equal pay, at the very least make the women play the same match length as the men.
Women play 40% less tennis than the male players. They sure as f*ck don't deserve the same pay for doing less than the men and playing a lower quality of tennis. I don't get why this is either because women are supposed to have better stamina and endurance than men. That's what I was told over and over and over again in PE and in mandatory feminism classes I had to sit through in high school and college!
ArbitraryWater
03-22-2016, 11:11 AM
How so?
Men are paid based on the revenue they generate. Women are paid by the revenue they generate.
What's the problem?
I think he just agreed with Djokovic, and therefore you, though.. or I took it wrong. Read it again.
NumberSix
03-22-2016, 11:12 AM
LeBron James and Luol Deng have the "same job". They should be paid the same.
I think he just agreed with Djokovic, and therefore you, though.. or I took it wrong. Read it again.
No, I read it wrong...
:cheers:
dude77
03-22-2016, 12:07 PM
LeBron James and Luol Deng have the "same job". They should be paid the same.
http://i.imgur.com/zzSDo.gif
christian1923
03-22-2016, 12:44 PM
Serena by herself is basically getting the same rating as joker and roger fetty combined. Americans care more about womens tennis these days. lol
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015/07/wimbledon-ratings-espn-serena-womens-final-up-djokovic-federer-rematch-flat/
imdaman99
03-22-2016, 12:52 PM
Serena by herself is basically getting the same rating as joker and roger fetty combined. Americans care more about womens tennis these days. lol
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015/07/wimbledon-ratings-espn-serena-womens-final-up-djokovic-federer-rematch-flat/
This. Tennis is a dying sport in the US. I guess it all comes down to an American being relevant in the sport, which there hasn't been on the men's for like 10 years. Women's tennis in general gets better ratings here as well.
Which DOESN'T mean I am supporting equal pay. I think whoever entertains or generates more income should get paid according to that. The difference is that they are not being signed by some team, they get paid according to how many matches they win or how far they go into their tournament. It would be much harder to change that up and raise men's but not women's without causing an uproar.
DeuceWallaces
03-22-2016, 01:12 PM
I don't follow tennis ratings and I see the whos who of ISH's braintrust in this thread, but isn't the biggest tennis star in the world currently a woman? Or does she only outdraw in the US?
plowking
03-22-2016, 01:15 PM
I don't follow tennis ratings and I see the whos who of ISH's braintrust in this thread, but isn't the biggest tennis star in the world currently a woman? Or does she only outdraw in the US?
No. And it isn't close.
Maybe in the US, but women's tennis is at a really low point at the moment, where as the mens game is coming off some of its best years.
NumberSix
03-22-2016, 01:45 PM
Serena by herself is basically getting the same rating as joker and roger fetty combined. Americans care more about womens tennis these days. lol
Right. Serena is a ratings getter, but in an entire tournament, Serena is only in a handful of the matches. The rest of the tournament is made up of matches that nobody watches. And there's no guarantee the Serena Williams will be in the finals of every tournament. They aren't going to put up big money prizes just on the off chance that the one player that draws the ratings might be in the finals to draw the ratings.
You can't base the prize money on the ratings that one player's matches get.
bdreason
03-22-2016, 02:23 PM
Just for the record the only payout that is equal is for the Winner of the Majors. Otherwise the WTA and ATP have different pay scales. I believe the BNP Paribas Open is the only non - Major tourney that also offers equal Finals prize money... And that's just because Ellison made that choice, probably to mirror the Majors.
bdreason
03-22-2016, 02:33 PM
And I'd like to see the ratings between men and women, minus Federer and Nadal, because outside of those two guys, I don't see any male players who are international superstars. Djoker may be the best player in the world, but he's isn't a fan favorite.
Mariah Sharapova is the highest paid women's athlete in the World, so obviously the interest in women's tennis is there. I bet she makes more than Djoker.
Serena by herself is basically getting the same rating as joker and roger fetty combined. Americans care more about womens tennis these days. lol
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015/07/wimbledon-ratings-espn-serena-womens-final-up-djokovic-federer-rematch-flat/
I only care about that one chick... the blonde. What's her name?
poido123
03-22-2016, 03:27 PM
Taking the sexist debate out of it.
Players should be paid a percentage in accordance to what they generate in revenue.
So if men's tennis is producing more viewership and money, they rightfully should be paid more.
Simple as that.
BasedTom
03-22-2016, 03:32 PM
djokovic isn't just "male tennis star" he's Novak ****ing Djokovic
show some damn respect
ArbitraryWater
03-22-2016, 07:14 PM
http://www.supersport.com/tennis/more/news/160322/Serena_Murray_blast_Djokovic
That has aroused the ire of Williams, who has won 21 Grand Slam singles crowns to 11 for Serbia's Djokovic.
"It has been, I would say disappointing," Williams said on Tuesday of Djokovic's remarks. "I wouldn't say my son deserved more money than my daughter because he's a man. It would be shocking."
Djokovic has a 17-month-old son, Stefan, but Williams openly wondered how he would explain himself to a future daughter.
"He's entitled to his opinion," Williams said. "If he had a daughter, he has a son right now, he should talk to his daughter and say, 'Your brother deserves more money than you.'
"I would never use sex to compare. We have so many great players, men and women, who have brought so much vision to the sport. Every athlete works extremely hard.
"If I had a son and a daughter I would never tell them one deserves more because of their sex."
These sexist females making it about gender again :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
It's about EQUALITY, you get what you bring in, work hours, and the END PRODUCT, you dummie.
NumberSix
03-22-2016, 08:03 PM
If Serena Williams wants to be "equal" then ok. Play against the men and be an utterly irrelevant player who's ranked like 675th.
enayes
03-22-2016, 11:04 PM
I'ts always bothered me that they switched the payouts at the majors to be equal.
There is NOT a single argument that makes sense to support this.
1. Men bring in more fans
2. Men draw in higher ticket prices
3. More TV views, etc.
And of course the biggest of all THEY ARE PLAYING 5 SET MATCHES.
If women want equal pay they should at least be earning it by playing the same amount of tennis, even if nobody watches/cares about the results.
As it stands now, women are making MUCH MORE money per game/set/match played then men. That is ridiculous.
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