Duncan,Shaq or Lebron

[Duderonomy]

Rank in order

[rmt]

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron

[aj1987]

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. LeBron

[SpaceJam]

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. LeBron

[Kawhi]

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. LeBron

[Dr Hawk]

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Lebron

[feyki]

Duncan
Shaq
Lebron

[JT123]

1A. Lebron
1B. Shaq








2. Duncan

[dynasty1978]

1. Duncan
2. Shaq

[Labissiere]

Peak:
1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. LeBron

Career:
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. LeBron

[Duderonomy]

Peak:
1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. LeBron

Career:
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. LeBron
I would agree with this. I'd even take 2001-05 Duncan over Lebron 09-13.

[Black and White]

According to ESPN:

1. LeBron
2. Duncan
3. Shaq

[Labissiere]

According to ESPN:

1. LeBron
2. Duncan
3. Shaq
ESPN is wrong.

[choppermagic]

I would agree with this. I'd even take 2001-05 Duncan over Lebron 09-13.

Me too.

The OP doesn't explain rank on what basis.

[T_L_P]

As of right now

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. LeBron

If LeBron stays healthy I think he'll finish top of that group.

They all had some of the best peaks ever (03, 00 and 09 or 12 respectively).

[pastis]

shaq
lebron
duncan

[IllegalD]

1) Kobe
2) Duncan
3) Shaq
4) LeBron

[Akrazotile]

1. Lebron
2a. Shaq
2b. Duncan

12. Kobe

[bizil]

GOAT wise:

Timmy
Shaq
Bron

Peak wise:

Shaq
Bron
Timmy

[Ranked 12th]

Just use PER to solve this dispute

1) LeBron
2) Shaq (close)



3) Duncan

[Uncle Drew]

shaq
lebron
duncan
Try it again, but this time without your Dirk agenda.

[Lebronxrings]

1A. Lebron
1B. Shaq








2. Duncan
This

[raprap]

1 Duncan
2 Shaq
3 LeBron

[InsanityKills]

1a. LeBron
1b. Shaq
3. Duncan/Pop (Duncan=scrub without Pop)


12be

[scuzzy]

1a. LeBron
1b. Shaq
3. Duncan/Pop (Duncan=scrub without Pop)


12be


12be :lol :lol

[SpaceJammeR]

1. Lebron
2a. Shaq
2b. Duncan

12. Kobe

damn daniel. don't do them like that :roll: :roll:

[LAZERUSS]

You couldn't go wrong with any of them.

Personally, I have it:

6. Shaq
7. Duncan
9. Lebron

In terms of peak...Shaq, Lebron, and then Duncan.

[zeerghit]

Shaq
Duncan
Lebron

[PP34Deuce]

Shaquille O Neal is the number 1 guy I'd build around. If all 3 guys came out the same draft you have a guy that's truly dominant physically.

[Gotterdammerung]

If I were to draft them, from the beginning of their careers, and I had a suckass lottery quality team, I'd pick LBJ or Shaq. They would help my team return to prominence faster than Duncan, even though he's almost as good as either LBJ or Shaq. LBJ & Shaq are once in a generation type of talent, enough to distort other teams' defenses into pretzels, allowing the other players on my team to flourish easier.

But if I had a strong front office and a team loaded with veterans, I'd go with Duncan. He would push my team over the top quicker than either LBJ or Shaq and win a championship earlier. :cheers:

[$LakerGold]

Shaq, Duncan & Lebron. Career-wise.

I'd take Lebron over Duncan in a pick-up game. But if we're in a private gym, I'd take Duncan. It's just one of those things.

[Pointguard]

GOAT wise:
Timmy
Bron
Shaq

Peak wise:
Shaq
Bron
Timmy

Career wise
Timmy
Shaq
Lebron

Player wise
Lebron
Shaq
Timmy

Lebron is unique in that he can win without a great coach and good teammates. One of the hardest things to do in the sport.

[Labissiere]

Shaq, Duncan & Lebron. Career-wise.

I'd take Lebron over Duncan in a pick-up game. But if we're in a private gym, I'd take Duncan. It's just one of those things.
That's because LeBron would try and Duncan would save himself for when it matters.

[sd3035]

1. Shaq/Duncan
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3. Lebron

[sd3035]

GOAT wise:
Timmy
Bron
Shaq

Peak wise:
Shaq
Bron
Timmy

Career wise
Timmy
Shaq
Lebron

Player wise
Lebron
Shaq
Timmy

Lebron is unique in that he can win without a great coach and good teammates. One of the hardest things to do in the sport.


Must be why he hasn't won anything without 3 HOF teammates and one of the best coaches in the game

[Pointguard]

Must be why he hasn't won anything without 3 HOF teammates and one of the best coaches in the game
I didn't say championships, did I? I said win. He had the best record in the league without a great coach or good teammates. Who do you have more impressive without those two key elements?

[sd3035]

I didn't say championships, did I? I said win. He had the best record in the league without a great coach or good teammates. Who do you have more impressive without those two key elements?

Curry won it all last year with a bunch of role players :applause:

[kamil]

Peak Shaq, but for longevity, I take Duncan. LeBron* is irrelevant.

[pauk]

Accolades:

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron

Accolades Peak:

1. Lebron
2. Shaq
3. Duncan

Individual bball ability:

1. Lebron
2. Shaq
3. Duncan

Individual bball ability Peak:

1. Shaq
2. Lebron
3. Duncan

All of the above / conclusion:

1. Lebron/Shaq
2. Shaq/Lebron
3. Duncan


Duncan was great, but not as prominent as Shaq/Lebron... individually they were better, more impactful, dominant...

[ballinhun8]

Accolades:

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron

Accolades Peak:

1. Lebron
2. Shaq
3. Duncan

Individual bball ability:

1. Lebron
2. Shaq
3. Duncan

Individual bball ability Peak:

1. Shaq
2. Lebron
3. Duncan

All of the above / conclusion:

1. Lebron/Shaq
2. Shaq/Lebron
3. Duncan



What the hell does accolades peak even mean?? Seriously man? And individual bball ability? You're gonna rank a guy who's nickname was "Mr. Fundamental" as the last of the three? The one who you could play a tape of to teach kids the right way to play basketball is the least one with individual bball ability?

[PJR]

Anyone who would take LeBron or Shaq over Duncan, starting a franchise from scratch, is crazy

The bullshit you have to deal with Shaq and LeBron, NEVER comes into the picture with Duncan.

From Shaq's weight and conditioning issues, and LeBron being a drama queen bitch...you don't have to worry about any of that with Duncan. Duncan doesn't do anything but show up, and play. And everyone else falls in line. That is beyond invaluable. Duncan made Pop's job so much easier of the last decade n half, and Pop has alluded to this many times.

The answer is Duncan.

[zbott]

1. Timmy
2. Diesel
3. LeBald

[aj1987]

I would take Shaq over Duncan in a heartbeat. Better peak and better prime. People overrate Duncan's prime, but Shaq averaged 25/11/3/2 on 58% for 17 years. 20/11/3/2 on 52% over 17 seasons for Timmy.

Anyone who ranks Timmy over Shaq needs to be shot. Shaq was unstoppable in his prime. Heck, ancient ass Shaq ruined PEAK Dwight. Shaq is a top 5 GOAT.

Shaq >>> Timmy.

[rmt]

Must be why he hasn't won anything without 3 HOF teammates and one of the best coaches in the game

Are you referring to Duncan?

[Cold soul]

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Lebron

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Duncan > Shaq > LeBron.

Rings don't lie.

[T_L_P]

I would take Shaq over Duncan in a heartbeat. Better peak and better prime. People overrate Duncan's prime, but Shaq averaged 25/11/3/2 on 58% for 17 years. 20/11/3/2 on 52% over 17 seasons for Timmy.

Anyone who ranks Timmy over Shaq needs to be shot. Shaq was unstoppable in his prime. Heck, ancient ass Shaq ruined PEAK Dwight. Shaq is a top 5 GOAT.

Shaq >>> Timmy.

What about their first 11 season (before they both dropped off noticeably) in the Playoffs?

25.5/12/3/2 for Shaq

23/12.5/3.5/2.5 for Duncan

Shaq ranks higher in most people's lists and for pretty good reasons. But your 'shot in the head' stuff is way over the top.

Those Playoff numbers are damn close, and Tim was the better defender. And he was about 100 times the leader Shaq was (Shaq was getting swept left, right and center from 95-99 and he treated it like it was a joke, he was a complete diva who feuded with numerous teammates and coaches). And he didn't miss an average of 15 games per season because he got injured all the time from being overweight.

These things mean stuff.

[soots]

I would take Shaq over Duncan in a heartbeat. Better peak and better prime. People overrate Duncan's prime, but Shaq averaged 25/11/3/2 on 58% for 17 years. 20/11/3/2 on 52% over 17 seasons for Timmy.

Anyone who ranks Timmy over Shaq needs to be shot. Shaq was unstoppable in his prime. Heck, ancient ass Shaq ruined PEAK Dwight. Shaq is a top 5 GOAT.

Shaq >>> Timmy.

I just lol if people bring up PPG, RPG, APG with Duncan.

Tim Duncan is in the running for goat defensive player. Thats the other half of the game.

[Pointguard]

Curry won it all last year with a bunch of role players :applause:
Best coach, best shooting team, best defense, best ran offense mean more than almost anything else.:biggums:

[PP34Deuce]

Curry won it all last year with a bunch of role players :applause:

And proceeded to not win the Finals MVP.

[Labissiere]

And proceeded to not win the Finals MVP.
GOAT leadership. Willing to do what is best for the team. Kerr and Curry have learned from Pop and Duncan. :applause:

[Odinn]

1. O'Neal
2. Duncan
3. James

[aj1987]

What about their first 11 season (before they both dropped off noticeably) in the Playoffs?

25.5/12/3/2 for Shaq

23/12.5/3.5/2.5 for Duncan
Duncan dropped of considerably averaged 13 PPG during one of those seasons. IIRC, he wasn't injured either.

First 14 seasons:

Shaq - 26/12/3/1/2 on 57%
Duncan - 22/12/3/1/3 on 50%

The numbers are the same for Shaq, even if you do it for the first 15 seasons.

First 16 seasons:

Shaq - 25/12/3/1/2 on 56%
Duncan - 21/12/3/1/2 on 50%


Those Playoff numbers are damn close, and Tim was the better defender.
Even those numbers with the 11 seasons aren't particularly close.



And he was about 100 times the leader Shaq was (Shaq was getting swept left, right and center from 95-99 and he treated it like it was a joke, he was a complete diva who feuded with numerous teammates and coaches). And he didn't miss an average of 15 games per season because he got injured all the time from being overweight.

These things mean stuff.
Didn't Duncan lose as the #1 seed on a 60+ win team to an 8th seed team?

[ArbitraryWater]

Try it again, but this time without your Dirk agenda.

wonder what Dirk ever did to this kid

anywayza

Bron
Shaq
Duncan

[Big164]

Depends on what you value. Peak its Shaq hands down. But if we go by Head 2 Head: Playoffs & Regular season, Shaq wins again!

1. Shaq
(33-29 vs Duncan), (17-12 vs LeBron)

2. Duncan
(21-15 vs Lebron), (29-33 vs Shaq)

3. Lebron
(12-17 vs Shaq) (15-21 vs Duncan)

[ShawkFactory]

What about their first 11 season (before they both dropped off noticeably) in the Playoffs?

25.5/12/3/2 for Shaq

23/12.5/3.5/2.5 for Duncan

Shaq ranks higher in most people's lists and for pretty good reasons. But your 'shot in the head' stuff is way over the top.

Those Playoff numbers are damn close, and Tim was the better defender. And he was about 100 times the leader Shaq was (Shaq was getting swept left, right and center from 95-99 and he treated it like it was a joke, he was a complete diva who feuded with numerous teammates and coaches). And he didn't miss an average of 15 games per season because he got injured all the time from being overweight.

These things mean stuff.
There's certainly a lot of argument to be had, but the bolded is essentially why Timmy > Shaq.

[tpols]

duncan, easy

[Duncan21formvp]

Duncan > Shaq > LeBron.

Rings don't lie.
This

[Duncan21formvp]

duncan, easy
It's close, but Duncan is the answer.

[Duncan21formvp]

Depends on what you value. Peak its Shaq hands down. But if we go by Head 2 Head: Playoffs & Regular season, Shaq wins again!

1. Shaq
(33-29 vs Duncan), (17-12 vs LeBron)

2. Duncan
(21-15 vs Lebron), (29-33 vs Shaq)

3. Lebron
(12-17 vs Shaq) (15-21 vs Duncan)
Duncan is better than Shaq followed by Lebron

[Gougou]

Career:

Duncan
Shaq
Lebron

Peak

Shaq
Lebron
Duncan

Player wise:

Lebron
Shaq
Duncan

[SpaceJam2]

Career:

Duncan
Shaq
Lebron

Peak

Shaq
Lebron
Duncan

Player wise:

Lebron
Shaq
Duncan

Career LeBron is 3rd? :lol

He has every literal playoff record, been to 9 Finals, 3 FMVPs, and 4 MVPs. Try again

[Gougou]

Career LeBron is 3rd? :lol

He has every literal playoff record, been to 9 Finals, 3 FMVPs, and 4 MVPs. Try again

Shaq and Duncan have 3 FMVPs, Lebron 4 regular season MVP, sure he was better

Duncan got to finals like 6 times won 5, Shaq 5 times won 4, but Lebron is 3-9 in the finals... also that 2011 choke is unacceptable. Shaq was in Lakers for awhile and Duncan stayed with Spurs forever, LBJ leaves Cleveland and switched teams back and forth, also played in a weaker east conference (teams with a losing record can make the playoffs as I remembered?) with less contenders.

Once Lebron career is over maybe I will change my mind.

[hiphopanonymous]

Shaq and Duncan have 3 FMVPs, Lebron 4 regular season MVP, sure he was better

Duncan got to finals like 6 times won 5, Shaq 5 times won 4, but Lebron is 3-9 in the finals... also that 2011 choke is unacceptable. Shaq was in Lakers for awhile and Duncan stayed with Spurs forever, LBJ leaves Cleveland and switched teams back and forth, also played in a weaker east conference (teams with a losing record can make the playoffs as I remembered?) with less contenders.

Once Lebron career is over maybe I will change my mind.
This is a reasonable way of forming your opinion but I anticipate others won

[Rocket]

Give me Hakeem he Dream Olajuwon at number one even if he was not an option.

[egokiller]

Hakeem Olajuwon is the only player in NBA history to record more than 3,000 blocked shots and 2,000 steals. It

[Duncan21formvp]

Duncan
Shaq
Lebron

[Lebron23]

LeBron, Shaq and Duncan.