Multiculturalism is a failure

[fiddy]

Very interesting perspective from Lebanon http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ee_1458860745

Basically she blames Islam for the failure of multiculturalism in Lebanon. I can definitely draw some correlation with the current situation in Europe and her theory.

[9erempiree]

The concept of it is a failure. This is nothing new except the fact that its 2016 and we had to wait this long for people to recognize it and they probably still don't.

[nathanjizzle]

really? because last time i checked, pizza, chinese food, and mexican food was a staple of american culture. dont matter what color you are, you eat those foods.

[Trollsmasher]

really? because last time i checked, pizza, chinese food, and mexican food was a staple of american culture. dont matter what color you are, you eat those foods.
funny how food is the aspect multiculturalists always fall back on

99% of time when asked about pros of multiculti, cultists have food in the first place

really tells something about the strenght of the position:roll:

[sd3035]

Whites and Asians from many different cultures have no problem integrating. Most Latinos integrate well, as do many Africans. The percentage drops drastically when we get to the people belonging to a certain religion of peace.

Whites and Asians also commit very little crime, so that's another bonus

[bluechox2]

Whites and Asians from many different cultures have no problem integrating. Most Latinos integrate well, as do many Africans. The percentage drops drastically when we get to the people belonging to a certain religion of peace.

Whites and Asians also commit very little crime, so that's another bonus
for every ying, theres a yang

[west_tip]

Every society has to have a dominant culture, a set of laws, norms and mores that the majority of society adhere to. Immigrants new to this society have to integrate into this milieu by buying into this, the whole "when in Rome do as Romans do" concept.

When immigrants make no attempt to integrate and instead live in self contained enclaves demanding that their laws and traditions are adhered to and take precedence over those of the dominant culture there is no hope for "multiculturalism". All you have is two separate societies living parallel with one another.

This is where Europe is at with Islam. Large swathes of Muslims have made no effort to integrate themselves into the countries that they or their parents emigrated to.

[Dresta]

really? because last time i checked, pizza, chinese food, and mexican food was a staple of american culture. dont matter what color you are, you eat those foods.
This argument is just :facepalm


As if you can't have ethnic food while also having a dominant culture rather than a plethora of disparate and disconnected cultural groups. Assimilating to a native culture doesn't mean throwing away the cuisine of your forefathers.


"B-b-but I had a Taco dar other day!!!""

[cleveland]

Yet we live in a strongest country in the world in every aspect possible that has been based on MULTICULTURALISM since its roots...been accepting immigrants and all kinda different people from all over the world, who all contribute (for the most part :lol ) with different aspects, views, cultures, into something we have here in the states today...multiculturalism certainly works, it's just hard to establish in most of the world since hate towards their neighboring religions, nationalities, races is so deep...it is possible to change a country's outlook, but that requires complete long term occupation and about 2 generations to work..but no, it is not a failure...at all..it is the one of the best things our humanity has to offer...

[oh the horror]

funny how food is the aspect multiculturalists always fall back on

99% of time when asked about pros of multiculti, cultists have food in the first place

really tells something about the strenght of the position:roll:




There's literally a lot more to talk about outside of food. We have to go over it for you? The United States literally has many cultures blended together.



What is ISH, the biggest collection of idiots on the Internet?


Those saying it doesn't work are just getting laughable at this point.

[west_tip]

Yet we live in a strongest country in the world in every aspect possible that has been based on MULTICULTURALISM since its roots..

That is a patent falsehood. The United States committed genocide on Native Americans, enslaved African's and openly discriminated against other ethnic minorities (Mexicans losing land to Anglos, the Chinese exclusion Act etc.). The first Catholic President was only voted into office in 1960 and as recently as WW2 the US military was segregated and blacks did not get the right to vote in many states until the mid 60s'.

[Dresta]

Yet we live in a strongest country in the world in every aspect possible that has been based on MULTICULTURALISM since its roots...been accepting immigrants and all kinda different people from all over the world, who all contribute (for the most part :lol ) with different aspects, views, cultures, into something we have here in the states today...multiculturalism certainly works, it's just hard to establish in most of the world since hate towards their neighboring religions, nationalities, races is so deep...it is possible to change a country's outlook, but that requires complete long term occupation and about 2 generations to work..but no, it is not a failure...at all..it is the one of the best things our humanity has to offer...
Hi ignorant guy that doesn't know anything about American history.

The nation was founded by what were by-in-large English gentlemen; its foundation based on English law, mores and customs, with a bit of Roman jurisprudence sprinkled in.

The culture of the US has been predominantly Anglo-Protestant, from its inception, until this very day, although this has gradually started to erode since the radical cultural marxist doctrines of the 60s started to gain ground. I suggest you go read about the reaction to even allowing Catholic immigrants in the 1840s and 1850s: the turmoil created by this led to the breakdown of the two-party system, and helped foster the conditions for Civil War. Maybe we are seeing something similar now, as absurdly polarised as this "nation" has become of late.

America is called a melting pot for a reason, not an "everyone go their own way" multicultural chaos (or "cultural mosaic" as some like to call it). Americans have always placed a very strong emphasis on assimilation. You cannot have assimilation without a dominant culture (i.e. with multiculturalism, which is essentially no culture at all).

But, by all means, keep derping away with that claptrap.

[Akrazotile]

There's literally a lot more to talk about outside of food. We have to go over it for you? The United States literally has many cultures blended together.



What is ISH, the biggest collection of idiots on the Internet?


Those saying it doesn't work are just getting laughable at this point.


Who is it working for? Blacks are in a terrible economic situation bc so many of them cant get a decent job bc they have no familiarity with white culture.

Sikh's get their temple's shot up because people mistake them for Muslims, whom many people are mistrustful of because they flew big ass planes into our buildings and killed thousands of people while continuing to plot murder.

There's no benefit to having conflicting cultural agendas. For the dummies who dont know how words work, that doesnt mean everyone has to be the same RACE. It doesnt even mean people have to have the same culture at home. But in the public/social arena, people pulling in a dozen different directions dorsnt actually serve a benefit. That's a myth. A myth perpetuated by corporations who want as many consumers as possible crammed together. And a myth believed by ***** cuckolds who think they need to play the role of social justice hero, MINORITY BABYSITTER MAN!!!!

[Dresta]

There's literally a lot more to talk about outside of food. We have to go over it for you? The United States literally has many cultures blended together.



What is ISH, the biggest collection of idiots on the Internet?


Those saying it doesn't work are just getting laughable at this point.
:hammerhead:

What are many things blended together? One thing. That's monoculture, not multiculture.

If I put lots of things in a blender do they still retain their autonomous features? No.

You need a better analogy if you're going to call that multiculturalism. After all, French and German and Spanish (and even Native Indian) have had a profound influence on the English language, but it's still the English language, not the language of multiculturalism, some kind of modern Esperanto :lol.

I swear, some people who trumpet the merits of multiculturalism don't even understand what it is.

[west_tip]

Those saying it doesn't work are just getting laughable at this point.

It has been attempted in Europe and has failed miserably. The failed experiment will in all likelihood end up destroying the European Union itself.

You can't just throw a bunch of disparate cultures together with different and in some cases incompatible religious and political ideologies, sing kumbaya, hold hands and expect everything to work out swimmingly.

It's time the left started to face up to reality on this.

[Trollsmasher]

so many people don't realize that multiculturalism and assimiliation are polar opposites

the moment you start assimilating, the multiple cultures begin to morph into one which is different from all the original ones but is still just a monoculture

Europe really is as perfect example of multiculturalism as it gets - multiple cultures living secluded from each other and interacting only at the most scant level so this separation can continue. Sure they use the same roads, walk the same streets and sometimes eat others' food, but the cores remain distanced from each other.

[Nick Young]

Multiculturalism isn't a complete failure. Some cultures have shown the ability to integrate in to different cultures very well, like Chinese, Indians, Irish, Polish, Italians and Hispanic people, and other cultures have shown an inability and unwillingness to integrate in to the culture they move to, mostly Middle Eastern, Asian and African Muslims.


Europe's attempt at multiculturalism from the past 20 years or so is an abject failure though, I think we all can agree on that.

[Akrazotile]

Multiculturalism isn't a complete failure. Some cultures have shown the ability to integrate in to different cultures very well, like Chinese, Indians, Irish, Polish, Italians and Hispanic people, and other cultures have shown an inability and unwillingness to integrate in to the culture they move to, mostly Middle Eastern, Asian and African Muslims.


Europe's attempt at multiculturalism from the past 20 years or so is an abject failure though, I think we all can agree on that.


But the thing is, they assimilate at least publicly into their new home's culture. That way people are on the same page and everyone feels more at ease.

Groups who refuse to do that are the ones viewed with suspicion. You can eat whatever food, pray to whatever god, talk in whatever language at home. But if they wont assimilate while out in public... They cant expect to feel very welcomed.

[Nick Young]

But the thing is, they assimilate at least publicly into their new home's culture. That way people are on the same page and everyone feels more at ease.

Groups who refuse to do that are the ones viewed with suspicion. You can eat whatever food, pray to whatever god, talk in whatever language at home. But if they wont assimilate while out in public... They cant expect to feel very welcomed.
Yeah exactly. That't why I'm not saying multiculturalism is a failure. Many cultures have shown the ability to integrate wherever they go in to. In these cases, multiculturalism is definitely not a failure. America would be a much worse place without pizza, chinese food and mexican food brought here by immigrants who successfully integrated.

[oarabbus]

I ate a burrito yesterday, I am multicultural as FU.CK

[Nick Young]

I ate a burrito yesterday, I am multicultural as FU.CK
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[JtotheIzzo]

Very interesting perspective from Lebanon http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ee_1458860745

Basically she blames Islam for the failure of multiculturalism in Lebanon. I can definitely draw some correlation with the current situation in Europe and her theory.

It works fine in America and Canada, and probably Australia and New Zealand too.

I think the main reason is because those countries are large and having been dealing with different groups for centuries.

Also, and no one talks about this, when migrants need to get on a plane, you get a different kind of person, someone with a bit more wherewithal and often times not the bottom of the barrel.

I think some of the migrants flooding into Europe could never get their shit together enough to make it on a plane to North America.

Does that mean they are bad people? No, simply an observation.

[Hawker]

It works fine in America and Canada, and probably Australia and New Zealand too.

I think the main reason is because those countries are large and having been dealing with different groups for centuries.

Also, and no one talks about this, when migrants need to get on a plane, you get a different kind of person, someone with a bit more wherewithal and often times not the bottom of the barrel.

I think some of the migrants flooding into Europe could never get their shit together enough to make it on a plane to North America.

Does that mean they are bad people? No, simply an observation.

Oz and NZ are white and asians. It's hardly multicultural here unless you count a mixture of commonwealth/Americans as multicultural which are really all the same with slight variances.

The asians come here to study and work and be productive members of society. They are selective about their immigrants because they can be because they live on an island. It is not even a comparison to the United States.

Your observation shows that the ones that are getting on a plane are more likely to be productive members of society.

[JtotheIzzo]

Oz and NZ are white and asians. It's hardly multicultural here unless you count a mixture of commonwealth/Americans as multicultural which are really all the same with slight variances.

The asians come here to study and work and be productive members of society. They are selective about their immigrants because they can be because they live on an island. It is not even a comparison to the United States.

Your observation shows that the ones that are getting on a plane are more likely to be productive members of society.

exactly

but 'Asian' is a broad term.

tons of East Asians, tons of Indonesians (very different than their Chinese, Japanese, Korean continentmen), tons of Lebanese, tons of Sudanese etc. pouring into Aus as well (Thon Maker for example, and don't forget this lil n*gga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byNlqUFddeo).

Asians are flocking to Aus because of the $20/hr minimum wage.

I stand by my airplane theory

[Hawker]

exactly

but 'Asian' is a broad term.

tons of East Asians, tons of Indonesians (very different than their Chinese, Japanese, Korean continentmen), tons of Lebanese, tons of Sudanese etc. pouring into Aus as well (Thon Maker for example, and don't forget this lil n*gga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byNlqUFddeo).

Asians are flocking to Aus because of the $20/hr minimum wage.

I stand by my airplane theory

Even the greeks/slavs find success in Australia. :lol There's been a massive transfer of money from Greece into Australia over the past few years.

[brownmamba00]

The US has issues but multiculturalism is not one of em.


Sure they use the same roads, walk the same streets and sometimes eat others' food, but the cores remain distanced from each other.
this just shows what kind of anti social person you are...I have white christian friends, latino dominican friends, blacks, arabs and even a goofy korean brother who I know since HS.

ofcourse when you seclude yourself and only talk to foreigners every 2-3 months you will be thinking some stupid shit like this.

It all starts at school. Education is a must.

[masonanddixon]

Muliculturalism never worked prior to the 1960s, not sure why idiots would think it would work now when the earth and society are at their most fragile.

[Heilige]

Muliculturalism never worked prior to the 1960s, not sure why idiots would think it would work now when the earth and society are at their most fragile.


What did you mean when you said black people are lazy and lack introspection? How do they lack introspection?

[masonanddixon]

What did you mean when you said black people are lazy and lack introspection? How do they lack introspection?

Just that they seem to lack a fundamental ability to draw from their experiences and develop insight into their situation.

Women have a similar defect in introspection.

I don't understand why black people have degenerated into such repugnant filth but I strongly believe it is correlated with the Obama/social media/white liberal self-hatred culture that has been indoctrinated into American society and which has enabled and accepted their vile behavior (knockout game, black lives matter movement, etc.). Honestly, I just wish blacks could go back to being intelligent and creative like they used to be, but that appears to be a foregone conclusion.

[nathanjizzle]

funny how food is the aspect multiculturalists always fall back on

99% of time when asked about pros of multiculti, cultists have food in the first place

really tells something about the strenght of the position:roll:

its important and not sure why you try to write it off as if its not. food is the biggest point of any culture, every culture has their own style of food. food brings people together. all different cultural backgrounds learning to appreciate each other through food. btw, its funny that anyone would make such a point against multiculturalism on an nba basketball forum. basketball is the most diverse sport outside of soccer. the nba is an american culture that is loved all around the world. amazing.

[fiddy]

its important and not sure why you try to write it off as if its not. food is the biggest point of any culture, every culture has their own style of food. food brings people together. all different cultural backgrounds learning to appreciate each other through food.
Now i know for sure you are trolling

[nathanjizzle]

Now i know for sure you are trolling

why do you say that? perhaps you are an uncultured basement dweller .

[Dresta]

Still, most people in this thread don't seem to understand what multiculturalism is. Foreign people integrating into and becoming a part of the dominant native culture is not multiculturalism. Opening an ethnic restaurant is not multiculturalism. People living distinctly different ways of life, not having shared values, and staying rooted in their own communities, is multiculturalism.

The only successful way of having a multiracial society is for it to be monocultural. We are seeing the consequences of multiculturalism all over Europe, where countries are being forced to change their laws to accommodate those who have emigrated, than the immigrants are changing how they live to adapt to the host country.


its important and not sure why you try to write it off as if its not. food is the biggest point of any culture, every culture has their own style of food. food brings people together. all different cultural backgrounds learning to appreciate each other through food. btw, its funny that anyone would make such a point against multiculturalism on an nba basketball forum. basketball is the most diverse sport outside of soccer. the nba is an american culture that is loved all around the world. amazing.
:facepalm

[imdaman99]

really? because last time i checked, pizza, chinese food, and mexican food was a staple of american culture. dont matter what color you are, you eat those foods.
Don't forget Thai food, Halal cart chicken and rice, got some food from every continent...except maybe Australia.
We need the Aussies to step up.