Lebron made shaq worse

[JohnMax]

http://i.imgur.com/79c7dOg.png


http://oi66.tinypic.com/v3zolh.jpg

[3peated]

as they say, numbers do not lie.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Managed to make a top 5 GOAT look like a slightly richer Tristian Thompson :facepalm

Meanwhile Kobe won 3 ringz with Shaq

[feyki]

Or Nash made him better .

[kamil]

http://oi66.tinypic.com/v3zolh.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/3008cgy.png

[aj1987]

Not worse than what Chuckbe did to these dudes:

Nash:
http://s18.postimg.org/9i9zh71mh/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_06_56_AM.png

Dwight:
http://s18.postimg.org/xkqtc2i9l/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_07_15_AM.png

Malone:
http://s18.postimg.org/q3hlwusqh/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_07_29_AM.png

Payton:
http://s18.postimg.org/6pgrx61a1/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_08_01_AM.png

[tmacattack33]

LOL.

As you can see from that picture, he only played 52 games in Cleveland that year and was battling injuries.

He was done by the time he got to Cleveland.

[warriorfan]

Not worse than what Chuckbe did to these dudes:

Nash:
http://s18.postimg.org/9i9zh71mh/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_06_56_AM.png

Dwight:
http://s18.postimg.org/xkqtc2i9l/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_07_15_AM.png

Malone:
http://s18.postimg.org/q3hlwusqh/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_07_29_AM.png

Payton:
http://s18.postimg.org/6pgrx61a1/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_08_01_AM.png

Nash is a gimmick system player, his numbers dropped because he got taken out of his gimmick, not because of Kobe

Dwight was injured while he was in LA

Malone turned 40 years old

Payton had substance abuse problems that got exasperated during his move to LA (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1877862)

[Lebron23]

Shaq was done by the time he played in Cleveland. And at least he's put up better numbers than Current Kobe.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Not worse than what Chuckbe did to these dudes:

Nash:
http://s18.postimg.org/9i9zh71mh/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_06_56_AM.png

Dwight:
http://s18.postimg.org/xkqtc2i9l/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_07_15_AM.png

Malone:
http://s18.postimg.org/q3hlwusqh/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_07_29_AM.png

Payton:
http://s18.postimg.org/6pgrx61a1/Screen_Shot_2016_03_28_at_3_08_01_AM.png

Wait :oldlol:

But didnt Kobe take that team to the finals :confusedshrug: How far did Lebron take Shaq in 2010 :oldlol: TO THE SECOND ROUND :oldlol:

It was so bad Shaq SIGNED WITH THE CELTICS DURING THE OFF SEASON :oldlol: :oldlol:

[ballinhun8]

Shaq was done by the time he played in Cleveland. And at least he's put up better numbers than Current Kobe.



75 games played. 18 and 8 on 61% shooting in only 30 mpg in a superior conference is being done??


Didn't know that.

[Lebron23]

75 games played. 18 and 8 on 61% shooting in only 30 mpg in a superior conference is being done??


Didn't know that.


He played in a gimmick offense. Just look at Nash numbers when he played for Dallas and Phoenix.

[aj1987]

Nash is a gimmick system player, his numbers dropped because he got taken out of his gimmick, not because of Kobe

Dwight was injured while he was in LA

Malone turned 40 years old

Payton had substance abuse problems that got exasperated during his move to LA (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1877862)

Now context matters? :roll: :roll: :roll:



Wait

But didnt Kobe take that team to the finals How far did Lebron take Shaq in 2010 TO THE SECOND ROUND

It was so bad Shaq SIGNED WITH THE CELTICS DURING THE OFF SEASON

Oh wait, you mean Chuckbe "took" a team of Shaq, Malone, and Payton with PJ as the Coach to the Finals only to get absolutely destroyed, because Chuckbe decided to chuck to his heart's content? Yeah, sure. :roll: :roll:


75 games played. 18 and 8 on 61% shooting in only 30 mpg in a superior conference is being done??


Didn't know that.
Just curious, but what did Shaq average in '08? What about '07, when he was like 3 years younger?

[MP.Trey]

Has any player ever NOT gotten worse from age 36 to 37?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Now context matters? :roll: :roll: :roll:



Oh wait, you mean Chuckbe "took" a team of Shaq, Malone, and Payton with PJ as the Coach to the Finals only to get absolutely destroyed, because Chuckbe decided to chuck to his heart's content? Yeah, sure. :roll: :roll:


Just curious, but what did Shaq average in '08? What about '07, when he was like 3 years younger?

Maybe LeBron should have chucked against the 2010 Celtics and he could have made it out the second round :(

Didn't Kobe beat those same Celtics in 2010 as well :(

Youre melting AJ :(

[warriorfan]

Now context matters? :roll: :roll: :roll:



Oh wait, you mean Chuckbe "took" a team of Shaq, Malone, and Payton with PJ as the Coach to the Finals only to get absolutely destroyed, because Chuckbe decided to chuck to his heart's content? Yeah, sure. :roll: :roll:


Just curious, but what did Shaq average in '08? What about '07, when he was like 3 years younger?

http://49.media.tumblr.com/5883f948cb712b7b8c2751bd32baa4db/tumblr_mh8yco0GOc1rlzgq1o1_400.gif

[TYCRO]

Can't believe the Big 3 in Boston ruined his career. Look what they did to him: 9/5/1/0/1.

[aj1987]

Maybe LeBron should have chucked against the 2010 Celtics and he could have made it out the second round :(

Didn't Kobe beat those same Celtics in 2010 as well :(

Youre melting AJ :(
Yeah, or LeBron should probably have had Shaq, Malone, and Payton. Not to mention the GOAT coach. Would've been simpler. Do you even understand why I posted those images?

21/16/3/3 on 57%
23/15/2/4 on 65%

Facts =/= melting down, resident retard.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Yeah, or LeBron should probably have had Shaq, Malone, and Payton. Not to mention the GOAT coach. Would've been simpler. Do you even understand why I posted those images?

21/16/3/3 on 57%
23/15/2/4 on 65%

Facts =/= melting down, resident retard.

Wait so why couldnt Lebron beat the Celtics with Shaq, but Kobe could with Gasol :confusedshrug:

Youre melt is strong bro. Just quit while your behind, im picking up too much speed

[kamil]

Wait so why couldnt Lebron beat the Celtics with Shaq, but Kobe could with Gasol :confusedshrug:

Youre melt is strong bro. Just quit while your behind, im picking up too much speed

Because LeBron* DOESNT make his teammates better.

[GrapeApe]

Shaq was old, fat, and he had several nagging injuries. He had a nice resurgent season in Phoenix but he was pretty much finished when he got to Cleveland.

[Bankaii]

Wait so why couldnt Lebron beat the Celtics with Shaq, but Kobe could with Gasol :confusedshrug:

Youre melt is strong bro. Just quit while your behind, im picking up too much speed
Why couldn't Kobe beat the Pistons with Shaq?
But Lebron could with Daniel Gibson.

It's crazy how stupid some of the shit posters on this shit forum are.

[aj1987]

Wait so why couldnt Lebron beat the Celtics with Shaq, but Kobe could with Gasol :confusedshrug:

Youre melt is strong bro. Just quit while your behind, im picking up too much speed
The same reason why Chuckbe could make the PO's without ATG rigging (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MhmGyZ7KF0) with 3 other HOF players, a DPOY, and a multiple All-Star in '13.

Let me repeat that since you might be a bit slow. 3 HOF'ers, 1 DPOY, and 1 multiple time All-Star = barely made the PO's.

[FreezingTsmoove]

The same reason why Chuckbe could make the PO's without ATG rigging (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MhmGyZ7KF0) with 3 other HOF players, a DPOY, and a multiple All-Star in '13.

Oh so now the refs are biased and Kobe's finals were rigged :rolleyes:

What happened in game 2 vs OKC? Then Lebrons chips are rigged as well

[aj1987]

Oh so now the refs are biased and Kobe's finals were rigged :rolleyes:

What happened in game 2 vs OKC? Then Lebrons chips are rigged as well
Nah, KD shouldn't have even been in the game, if the refs were calling it fair. You might've missed the game, little boy, but the gut got away with a charge.

Again, 3x HOF'ers, 1x DPOY, 1x multiple time All-Star = 45 wins. :roll:

Not the first time it happened, BTW. G7 in '10 was rigged AF as well. Celtics deserved the W, but Stern came through for Chuckbe.

[Ca$H]

I don't think Prime Shaq and Prime Bran would be a good combo. Shaq clogs up the paint and Bran has a questionable jumpshot.

[Smoke117]

Lebron made him shoot 10% worse from the ft line too...right? I mean Lebron seems to be the downfall of every player he has ever played to according to you moronic haters, right?

[sd3035]

That was definitely a prime Shaq

Excellent thread :applause:

[Bankaii]

Are you ****ing retarded? I'm comparing a team that both Lebron and Kobe played in the same playoff season you ****ing *ch!nk *** gay ass ph@got. Dont make me expose your tumblr again
No you fkn idiot. You're spewing bullshit with no context to fit your bitchass agenda.

2010 Shaq was no where near the same Shaq we know.
2010 Pau is also nothing to belittle, saying that he was getting FMVP talks over 6/24be.

And post whatever you want dipshit.
Googling my username on here and reaching to try to connect it with some random kids tumblr isn't exposing shit.

I'm not even Asain fkboy.

[ballinhun8]

17 and 7 his last full season in Miami and 14 and 8 when he got to PHX.



He seemed healthy and fine and mobile in PHX. Yea those Suns teams were run and gun but Shaq didn't get his numbers like that.



He wasn't done when he got to CLE, just had to play lebron ball :lol

Just kidding. He really wasn't done. Just don't think he fit in that squad. Bron needs shooters. Not guys that clog the paint.

[Kungfro]

Shaq bogged down the offense in Phoenix, he got his numbers but the team was less of a threat because of it.

[Lebron23]

No you fkn idiot. You're spewing bullshit with no context to fit your bitchass agenda.

2010 Shaq was no where near the same Shaq we know.
2010 Pau is also nothing to belittle, saying that he was getting FMVP talks over 6/24be.

And post whatever you want dipshit.
Googling my username on here and reaching to try to connect it with some random kids tumblr isn't exposing shit.

I'm not even Asain fkboy.


/Slayed

[greatest-ever]

So i guess you're not factoring in that Shaq was another year older and fater?

[Lebron23]

So i guess you're not factoring in that Shaq was another year older and fater?


OP is stupid.

[pauk]

...or age, injuries-wear & tear, work ethic/conditioning, minutes, but you are more logical so i dont know. :confusedshrug:

[34-24 Footwork]

...or age, injuries-wear & tear, work ethic/conditioning, minutes, but you are more logical so i dont know. :confusedshrug:

Or......the floor spacing that Lebron needs isn't conducive to Shaq being in the proper position to score.

See: Love/Bosh for example.

[Bankaii]

Or......the floor spacing that Lebron needs isn't conducive to Shaq being in the proper position to score.

See: Love/Bosh for example.
Shaq had the EXACT same average FG distance in 2010 that he did in 2009. In fact, his percentage of shots from 0-3 ft increased with Lebron.
His numbers decreased slightly because he was older and slower, and was playing in a much better system with the Suns. So you're wrong about that.

Bosh's average FG distance has only increased since Lebron left, along with his 3pt attempts. His fg% has decreased though, I wonder why? Is it still Lebron's fault that Bosh doesn't play down low?

Love is the only one that has had an increase in FG distance playing with Lebron. And everyone gives Lebron crap for that, despite it being Love's own fault.

Any other out of context bullshit I need to suppose for you?

[JohnMax]

Bosh's average FG distance has only increased since Lebron left, along with his 3pt attempts. His fg% has decreased though, I wonder why? Is it still Lebron's fault that Bosh doesn't play down low?

Miami had no floor spacing until smallball lineup + Joe Johnson + Josh Richardson.

[CuterThanRubio]

Nash is a gimmick system player, his numbers dropped because he got taken out of his gimmick, not because of Kobe

Dwight was injured while he was in LA

Malone turned 40 years old

Payton had substance abuse problems that got exasperated during his move to LA (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1877862)

Pretty nice gimmick if you ask me.

He got hurt in his third game playing for LA, if he didn't suffer a career altering injury so early into the season I bet they would have done much better, its obvious.

[Meticode]

:biggums: Shaq got reduced minutes and was injured a large part of his Cleveland season and he played injured in the playoffs. He was on the downside of his career.

[Prime_Shaq]

Shaq still destroyed Dwight in those seasons.

[Labissiere]

He was clearly on the decline. :confusedshrug:

[kawhileonard2]

Managed to make a top 5 GOAT look like a slightly richer Tristian Thompson :facepalm

Meanwhile Kobe won 3 ringz with Shaq

Agreed!

[Shooter]

Or......the floor spacing that Lebron needs isn't conducive to Shaq being in the proper position to score.

See: Love/Bosh for example.

Which alt is yours after dusting off this main account because you can't accept that LeBron won his 4th FMVP?

https://i.postimg.cc/s2C4d9cV/34_24_missing.png

[kawhileonard2]

Shaq outplayed Lebron in pivotal game Vs Boston

[Nilocon165]

Shaq outplayed Lebron in pivotal game Vs Boston
The desperation bump

It’s over dude, go to bed

[1987_Lakers]

What a weird thread to bump.