View Full Version : The Top Tier of Superhero movies
Nilocon165
03-27-2016, 08:56 PM
Spiderman 2 and the Dark knight. They're on their own level. Absolute masterpieces.
sundizz
03-27-2016, 09:18 PM
1. Batman Begins
2. Dark Knight
3. Avengers 1
4. Dark Knight Rises
5. Captain America 2
6. Ironman 1
7. Batman vs Supes
8. Ironman 2
9. Thor 2
10. Antman
Off the top of my head.
Achilleas
03-27-2016, 09:20 PM
Deadpool
Nick Young
03-27-2016, 09:23 PM
Unbreakable is definitely in the top 10. One of the most underrated good superhero movies.
Nilocon165
03-27-2016, 09:29 PM
1. Batman Begins
2. Dark Knight
3. Avengers 1
4. Dark Knight Rises
5. Captain America 2
6. Ironman 1
7. Batman vs Supes
8. Ironman 2
9. Thor 2
10. Antman
Off the top of my head.
So you've just never seen spiderman 2?
Nilocon165
03-27-2016, 09:29 PM
Deadpool
Haven't seen it, but it doesn't seem like I'd find it that funny.
andgar923
03-27-2016, 09:29 PM
Unbreakable is definitely in the top 10. One of the most underrated good superhero movies.
Unbreakable def up there.
I'd like to add the first Blade as well.
sundizz
03-27-2016, 09:35 PM
I've seen all of the Spiderman movies. Tobey Maguirre is no superhero juz like that mousey idiot Jesse in bat vs Supes is no Lex. The most recent Spiderman movies have been much better. I'd put them in the top 15-20 range.
raprap
03-27-2016, 09:35 PM
Dark knight movies set the bar.
Nilocon165
03-27-2016, 09:37 PM
I've seen all of the Spiderman movies. Tobey Maguirre is no superhero juz like that mousey idiot Jesse in bat vs Supes is no Lex. The most recent Spiderman movies have been much better. I'd put them in the top 15-20 range.
You're an idiot and you don't know what makes a good film.
But that's just my opinion.
sundizz
03-27-2016, 09:42 PM
You're an idiot and you don't know what makes a good film.
But that's just my opinion.
I respect your superficial nonsense. If I wanted to see something silly I'd watch Old School. Superhero movies represent something else for me. I want either great storytelling (Antman), great character development (Cap 2), gritty semi realistic battle of good and evil (Supes vs Bat), or ideally all 3 (Avengers, Dark Knight).
Forgot to include the X-men series though. First class def is a top 10.
T_L_P
03-27-2016, 09:45 PM
Spiderman 2 and the Dark knight. They're on their own level. Absolute masterpieces.
I'm inclined to agree. I watched Spiderman 2 a few weeks ago and it still holds up - and TDK (all the postulating aside) is a great movie.
TomCat
03-27-2016, 10:14 PM
I've seen all of the Spiderman movies. Tobey Maguirre is no superhero juz like that mousey idiot Jesse in bat vs Supes is no Lex. The most recent Spiderman movies have been much better. I'd put them in the top 15-20 range.
This guy is an idiot
Nanners
03-27-2016, 10:16 PM
at the top for me are the first 2 parts of the nolan trilogy, and dark knight rises would be up there too if the story wasnt full of holes.
below the nolan tier, I tend to like the origin stories best, spiderman 1, original x-men and iron man 1. The watchmen is also decent and so is unbreakable, if it counts.
my guilty pleasure superhero movie is the punisher. :oldlol:
Labissiere
03-27-2016, 10:35 PM
1. Batman Begins
2. Dark Knight
3. Avengers 1
4. Dark Knight Rises
5. Captain America 2
6. Ironman 1
7. Batman vs Supes
8. Ironman 2
9. Thor 2
10. Antman
Off the top of my head.
Did you completely forget about several X-men movies and Deadpool?
Smook B
03-27-2016, 10:37 PM
Did you completely forget about several X-men movies and Deadpool?
x-men sucks.
~primetime~
03-27-2016, 10:46 PM
For me...
1. Guardians
2. Watchmen
3. Deadpool
4. TDK
5. X2
6. First Class
7. Futures Past
8. Batman Begins
9. The Wolverine
10. Ironman 1
I just can't get into Toby McGuire Spiderman movies, none of them. I have a hard time getting into Avengers as well. They just aren't for me I guess.
BasedTom
03-27-2016, 11:38 PM
So this is Post-2000 then or what?
tons of superhero movies existed before the recent cash cow, surely at least one must crack the list
Im Still Ballin
03-27-2016, 11:58 PM
It's pretty obvious isn't it
We all know who wins in Civil War
Smook B
03-28-2016, 12:01 AM
It's pretty obvious isn't it
We all know who wins in Civil War
Marvel movies are easily predictable.
Im Still Ballin
03-28-2016, 12:03 AM
Marvel movies are easily predictable.
Yeah they're pretty vanilla in format
They'd never make something like BvS/Watchmen/TDK/BB/TDKR/Spiderman 2 (Not the new marvel disney cinematic universe)
~primetime~
03-28-2016, 12:03 AM
Marvel movies are easily predictable.
Every super hero movie outside of Watchmen is.
The good guy(s) beats the bad guy(s).
ballinhun8
03-28-2016, 02:23 AM
So this is Post-2000 then or what?
tons of superhero movies existed before the recent cash cow, surely at least one must crack the list
This.
No respect here for Batman Returns?? At its time it was a helluva movie. DeVito as Penguin?? There really isn't a better actor suited for that role. Keaton is still a top 3 Batman.
And if we're talking superhero movies then are we also looking outside just Marvel and DC? Would TMNT classify as superhero? If so then then the 1990 and TMNT 2 still holds a special place in my heart, not just for nostalgia but definitely story telling and sheer entertainment.
WayOfWade
03-28-2016, 03:01 AM
For me...
1. Guardians
2. Watchmen
3. Deadpool
4. TDK
5. X2
6. First Class
7. Futures Past
8. Batman Begins
9. The Wolverine
10. Ironman 1
I just can't get into Toby McGuire Spiderman movies, none of them. I have a hard time getting into Avengers as well. They just aren't for me I guess.
Guardians to/for me is like the most rewatchable movie of all time. I've seen it 8 times and will see it a 9th later this week, just never gets old.
And a personal favorite of mine is Superman II. Old school, but Zod and his minions are great villains that terrorize the White House and are a good match for Superman. I also love Dark Knight Rises more than the other Batman (Batmen?) because I just love huge fights.
HeatFanSince88
03-28-2016, 04:35 AM
The Tobey Maguire spider man movies and the Dark Knight trilogy batman are by far the best.
SexSymbol
03-28-2016, 04:51 AM
1.The Dark Knight
2.The Dark Knight Rises
3.Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice
4.The Winter Soldier
5.Watchmen
6.Batman Begins
7.Man Of Steel
8.Days of Future Past
9.Avengers
10.Guardians of the Galaxy
11.Iron Man
12.Spider Man 2
13.X2
14.Deadpool
15.Age of Ultron
Bawkish
03-28-2016, 05:12 AM
Watchmen
the way the superheroes were deconstructed and made them vile is the complete antithesis of anything superhero movies were done
also KickAss, especially the first one
Akrazotile
03-28-2016, 06:23 AM
http://www.loyalbooks.com/image/detail/Apology-of-Socrates-Plato.jpg
It's not technically a movie, it's a dialogue recorded in ancient Greece by Plato.
But they should make a movie about it IMO.
http://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/photo.goodreads.com/hostedimages/1389743009i/8052444.jpg
killer tag line.
ArbitraryWater
03-28-2016, 08:48 AM
TDKR > TDK
imo
T_L_P
03-28-2016, 09:05 AM
I personally can't watch Batman Begins anymore and I don't feel like his Batman films are trilogy.
Nolan set up this Blade Runner-esque aesthetic for the film with narrow sets that made Gotham look like a district.
Then in the next two films he abandoned these sets and Gotham just looked like regular Chicago.
It throws it off completely. They feel like completely different films.
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 09:05 AM
I've seen all of the Spiderman movies. Tobey Maguirre is no superhero juz like that mousey idiot Jesse in bat vs Supes is no Lex. The most recent Spiderman movies have been much better. I'd put them in the top 15-20 range.
:lol
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 09:06 AM
TDKR > TDK
imo
You may be surprised by this, but your opinion is wrong.
ArbitraryWater
03-28-2016, 09:54 AM
You may be surprised by this, but your opinion is wrong.
thats impossible.. like, literally, it can't be.
Not like its something outrageous in the first place.
I personally can't watch Batman Begins anymore and I don't feel like his Batman films are trilogy.
Nolan set up this Blade Runner-esque aesthetic for the film with narrow sets that made Gotham look like a district.
Then in the next two films he abandoned these sets and Gotham just looked like regular Chicago.
It throws it off completely. They feel like completely different films.
something that always felt weird to me in that regard, you hit the nail on the head! so true
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 10:21 AM
thats impossible.. like, literally, it can't be.
Sure it can, as long as you view my statement as an opinion.
Doomsday Dallas
03-28-2016, 10:27 AM
http://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/blade-ii-2002/large_uS1mHdLtNNEeLFQpxpxZ1uJSNDC.jpg
Underrated.
Im Still Ballin
03-28-2016, 10:30 AM
http://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/blade-ii-2002/large_uS1mHdLtNNEeLFQpxpxZ1uJSNDC.jpg
Underrated.
:applause:
Doomsday Dallas
03-28-2016, 10:43 AM
:applause:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxLqojeO6yk
Good scene...
They should reintroduce Blade... have him fight Deadpool....
Nilocon165
03-28-2016, 11:15 AM
You may be surprised by this, but your opinion is wrong.
I agree.
DeuceWallaces
03-28-2016, 11:27 AM
Lots of great ones. Superman I & II, Batman and Batman Returns, TMNT I, The Crow, and Conan the Barbarian are all overlooked these days. Had a lot of friends who loved the Rocketeer; it's gotten a bit of cult status these days.
Love all the modern ones too, but the early ones are oft overlooked by the kids these days.
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 11:43 AM
Lots of great ones. Superman I & II, Batman and Batman Returns, TMNT I, The Crow, and Conan the Barbarian are all overlooked these days. Had a lot of friends who loved the Rocketeer; it's gotten a bit of cult status these days.
Love all the modern ones too, but the early ones are oft overlooked by the kids these days.
So many of those are watchable but not actually deserving of top 10. Batman is probably my only top 10 that you listed.
DeuceWallaces
03-28-2016, 11:46 AM
So many of those are watchable but not actually deserving of top 10. Batman is probably my only top 10 that you listed.
They're all great movies. Superman II the Donner Cut is maybe the best of all. It's apples and oranges with these eras. Don't be naive. You can't compare Double Indemnity and Gone Girl, but they're both fantastic movies that are more than "watchable."
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 11:50 AM
Of the big name Marvel/DC superhero movies, these are my favorites:
1. The Dark Knight
2. Batman Begins
3. X-Men 2
4. X-Men: First Class
5. X-Men: Days of Future Past
6. X-Men
7. Batman
8. Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier
9. Deadpool
10. Iron Man
I'm clearly a Batman/X-Man fan.
~primetime~
03-28-2016, 11:51 AM
I LOVED Superman 2 when I was a child...seen that movie probably 100 times.
this is STILL a 'WTF!?':
http://www.anelnoath.com/supermenii4.jpg
Love the original Superman movies for nostalgic reasons...even 3&4
I have never cared for the 90s Batman flicks...none of them
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 12:14 PM
I LOVED Superman 2 when I was a child...seen that movie probably 100 times.
this is STILL a 'WTF!?':
http://www.anelnoath.com/supermenii4.jpg
Love the original Superman movies for nostalgic reasons...even 3&4
I have never cared for the 90s Batman flicks...none of them
At least you didn't rule out the 89s Batman movie :D
Im Still Ballin
03-28-2016, 12:21 PM
The whole batman trilogy is just...
Amazing
~primetime~
03-28-2016, 12:23 PM
At least you didn't rule out the 89s Batman movie :D
The Keaton flicks would be top-18-22ish range for me. The Kilmer/Clooney stuff would be bottom of the barrel next to Catwoman :lol
nightprowler10
03-28-2016, 12:59 PM
The Keaton flicks would be top-18-22ish range for me. The Kilmer/Clooney stuff would be bottom of the barrel next to Catwoman :lol
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the general consensus. Clooney was beyond terrible as Batman, and Kilmer didn't seem right either.
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 01:06 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the general consensus. Clooney was beyond terrible as Batman, and Kilmer didn't seem right either.
Kilmer was fine as Bruce Wayne and often gets credit for that. But it wasn't enough to save the movie.
DeuceWallaces
03-28-2016, 01:33 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the general consensus. Clooney was beyond terrible as Batman, and Kilmer didn't seem right either.
Maybe among millennials.
~primetime~
03-28-2016, 01:39 PM
Batman Forever Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu6xLaLG6QA)
:facepalm :lol
Watching that is a mix of cringing and laughing
Every location is full of smoke/mist and moving lights...makes for such an annoying feel, like a bad trip at a rave or something.
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 01:41 PM
Maybe among millennials.
What is the consensus among non-millennials then? I don't think I even count as a millennial and everybody I know likes to an extent the Burton films but not the Schumacher ones.
~primetime~
03-28-2016, 01:49 PM
What is the consensus among non-millennials then? I don't think I even count as a millennial and everybody I know likes to an extent the Burton films but not the Schumacher ones.
Everyone I know has Nolan Trilogy >>>
I'm gen-X
They are just better movies if we are being realistic.
Doomsday Dallas
03-28-2016, 01:52 PM
I think Batman vs Superman is now the greatest Superhero movie ever made.
It's better than the Dark Knight... not by much.
1. Batman v Superman
2. Dark Knight
3. Dark Knight Rises
4. Days of Future Past
5. V for Vendetta
6. Blade 2
7. Avengers 1 & 2
8. Man of Steel
9. Batman Begins
10. Iron Man
Nilocon165
03-28-2016, 01:54 PM
I think Batman vs Superman is now the greatest Superhero movie ever made.
It's better than the Dark Knight... not by much.
1. Batman v Superman
2. Dark Knight
3. Dark Knight Rises
4. Days of Future Past
5. V for Vendetta
6. Blade 2
7. Avengers 1 & 2
8. Man of Steel
9. Batman Begins
10. Iron Man
No it is not
~primetime~
03-28-2016, 01:58 PM
easy to forget about V for Vendetta
Most people probably leave out Hellboy and Sin City flicks too...although not sure any are top-10, but close maybe
DeuceWallaces
03-28-2016, 02:02 PM
What is the consensus among non-millennials then? I don't think I even count as a millennial and everybody I know likes to an extent the Burton films but not the Schumacher ones.
There's clearly a recency bias with these types of lists. In ten years people will be hating on Avengers and the recent crop. The original 2 Batmans are great and the best for many people.
I like the Hellboy and Sin City mention. Hellboy is criminally underrated, but then again most of his movies are.
Doomsday Dallas
03-28-2016, 02:05 PM
No it is not
Yea it is... I've seen it twice now... and really can't wait to see it a third time.
Not many movies have given me that feeling.
The film was basically everything I had hoped for... the trailers can
be misleading sometimes.
I had more problems with The Dark Knight than I did with B vs S
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 02:40 PM
Everyone I know has Nolan Trilogy >>>
I'm gen-X
They are just better movies if we are being realistic.
Not sure what that has to do with Burton films compared to Schumacher films. Everybody agrees with what you just said.
Nilocon165
03-28-2016, 02:42 PM
Yea it is... I've seen it twice now... and really can't wait to see it a third time.
Not many movies have given me that feeling.
The film was basically everything I had hoped for... the trailers can
be misleading sometimes.
I had more problems with The Dark Knight than I did with B vs S
What made it a good movie
Glad you enjoyed it, but this movie had a lot of problems that most superhero movies don't have
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 02:42 PM
I think Batman vs Superman is now the greatest Superhero movie ever made.
It's better than the Dark Knight... not by much.
Is that you SexSymbol?
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 02:43 PM
There's clearly a recency bias with these types of lists. In ten years people will be hating on Avengers and the recent crop. The original 2 Batmans are great and the best for many people.
I like the Hellboy and Sin City mention. Hellboy is criminally underrated, but then again most of his movies are.
Many were doing that after the first week.
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 02:44 PM
Yea it is... I've seen it twice now... and really can't wait to see it a third time.
Not many movies have given me that feeling.
The film was basically everything I had hoped for... the trailers can
be misleading sometimes.
I had more problems with The Dark Knight than I did with B vs S
The trailers definitely weren't misleading. They gave away the whole movie.
~primetime~
03-28-2016, 02:45 PM
Not sure what that has to do with Burton films compared to Schumacher films. Everybody agrees with what you just said.
I don't think Deuce was referring to Burton vs Schumacher when he said 'Maybe among millennials'.
I think he was referring to Nolan vs Burton.
But maybe I'm wrong...
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 02:45 PM
I'm gen-X
According to this: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/here-is-when-each-generation-begins-and-ends-according-to-facts/359589/
I'm gen-X, gen-Y, and a millennial.
Labissiere
03-28-2016, 02:47 PM
I don't think Deuce was referring to Burton vs Schumacher when he said 'Maybe among millennials'.
I think he was referring to Nolan vs Burton.
But maybe I'm wrong...
I actually mixed up your post and his earlier. Either way, what he was quoting didn't make sense when referring to the movies. He quoted something about the consensus about Keaton vs Kilmer/Clooney movies.
embersyc
03-28-2016, 06:10 PM
According to this: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/here-is-when-each-generation-begins-and-ends-according-to-facts/359589/
I'm gen-X, gen-Y, and a millennial.
Gen Y doesn't exist anymore, that's just what people called Millennials back in the 90s.
It's basically:
Born before WW1: Nobody gives a shit, your dead.
Born between WW1 and WW2: Greatest Generation
Born between WW2 and mid sixties: Baby Boomer
Born from late sixties to early eighties: GenX
Born late eighties to early 00s: Millenial
Born after that: You don't make enough money for the media to classify yet, try again in a few years.
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