View Full Version : Obama Doubles Down on Bringing Refugees Into U.S. EVEN AFTER BRUSSELS ATTACKS
9erempiree
03-27-2016, 10:50 PM
He's delusional and even in the wake of Brussels and total disrespect for our country.
If people dislike Trump then you have to ask yourself who created Trump and that can very well be Obama.
If Trump wins the presidency then Obama's legacy will be Donald Trump.
100,000 more 'refugees' into the USA. No mention of how they are going to determine if someone is a legitimate refugee or not. This is going to be like Germany where nobody knows where they are from.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/obama-doubles-bringing-refugees-u-s-even-brussels-attacks/
Nick Young
03-27-2016, 10:56 PM
As long as they are properly vetted to ensure they have zero ties to terrorist organizations or radical hate preachers, and as long as they are sent back home to Syria after Russia ends the war that Obama started, I am ok with this, as stupid as this plan is.
As long as Obama can ensure absolutely that none of these 100,000 are Islamist nutcases, and as longg as these refugees don't bring their organized rape gangs with them like they did in Cologne, sure why not.
Of course, in my ideal world, we don't take these refugees because it's not our ****ing job and it's idiotic to take this risk after we've seen how quickly these "refugees" have all but destroyed the EU. But I'm a realist, and I know that common sense is not going to prevail.
Patrick Chewing
03-27-2016, 10:59 PM
Is this thread about Obama wanting to bring in refugees or is it about Trump?
senelcoolidge
03-27-2016, 11:00 PM
It's like he's trying to f#ck over the U.S. any way he can. Get this idiot out of there.
kNIOKAS
03-28-2016, 04:50 AM
So doubles up or doubles down? :whatever:
brownmamba00
03-28-2016, 12:34 PM
as he should
NumberSix
03-28-2016, 02:08 PM
It's like he's trying to f#ck over the U.S. any way he can. Get this idiot out of there.
You're just noticing this?
Bosnian Sajo
03-28-2016, 02:15 PM
- = + ?
Explain yourself, op.
Doomsday Dallas
03-28-2016, 02:23 PM
As long as they are properly vetted to ensure they have zero ties to terrorist organizations or radical hate preachers, I am ok with this, as stupid as this plan is.
this.
dkmwise
03-28-2016, 06:38 PM
As long as they are properly vetted to ensure they have zero ties to terrorist organizations or radical hate preachers, and as long as they are sent back home to Syria after Russia ends the war that Obama started, I am ok with this, as stupid as this plan is.
As long as Obama can ensure absolutely that none of these 100,000 are Islamist nutcases, and as longg as these refugees don't bring their organized rape gangs with them like they did in Cologne, sure why not.
Ok cool, so in other words you're not ok with his plan. Because that type of vetting is never going to happen.
poido123
03-28-2016, 06:44 PM
Can I ask why there is this need for every country to accept X number of refugees?
Is it not ok to just say we don't want anymore in for now in light of terrorist attacks?
dkmwise
03-28-2016, 06:47 PM
Can I ask why there is this need for every country to accept X number of refugees?
Is it not ok to just say we don't want anymore in for now in light of terrorist attacks?
Not to mention, are these European, Middle Eastern and African countries helping us by taking in some of the millions of people from central american who have come here due to violence and poverty in their homelands?
ThePhantomCreep
03-28-2016, 06:47 PM
He's delusional and even in the wake of Brussels and total disrespect for our country.
If people dislike Trump then you have to ask yourself who created Trump and that can very well be Obama.
If Trump wins the presidency then Obama's legacy will be Donald Trump.
100,000 more 'refugees' into the USA. No mention of how they are going to determine if someone is a legitimate refugee or not. This is going to be like Germany where nobody knows where they are from.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/obama-doubles-bringing-refugees-u-s-even-brussels-attacks/
Trump won't sniff the presidency, so don't worry about it.
Funny how GWB let in hundreds of thousands of refugees and called Islam a "religion of peace" yet none of you xenophobes accused Bush of being an anti-American terrorist sympathizer. Right-wingers are remarkably FOS.
9erempiree
03-28-2016, 06:51 PM
Trump won't sniff the presidency, so don't worry about it.
Funny how GWB let in hundreds of thousands of refugees, called Islam a "religion of peace" and none of you xenophobes accused Bush of being anti-American, or a terrorist sympathizer. You are remarkably FOS.
It's an issue now because their true colors are showing. Bush never had to see these atrocities. Obama lets them in after knowing how violent they are.
poido123
03-28-2016, 06:51 PM
Trump won't sniff the presidency, so don't worry about it.
Funny how GWB let in hundreds of thousands of refugees, called Islam a "religion of peace" and none of you xenophobes accused Bush of being anti-American, or a terrorist sympathizer. Right-wingers are remarkably FOS.
I think everyone has accepted that Bush was a retard?
Most right wingers wanted something done at the time(however crazy it was in light of 9/11).
right wingers are the only ones who can save this world from being PC'd to death.
dkmwise
03-28-2016, 06:52 PM
Trump won't sniff the presidency, so don't worry about it.
Funny how GWB let in hundreds of thousands of refugees and called Islam a "religion of peace" yet none of you xenophobes accused Bush of being an anti-American terrorist sympathizer. Right-wingers are remarkably FOS.
The visa/visa waiver program under Clinton, Obama and Bush has been a disaster. Bush also let a lot of people out of Gitmo too that have rejoined the fight, he is certainly not blameless with these issues, but he is pretty irrelevant with them at this point. Can't excuse bad decisions by pointing to someone else's bad decisions
poido123
03-28-2016, 06:58 PM
It's an issue now because their true colors are showing. Bush never had to see these atrocities. Obama lets them in after knowing how violent they are.
That's the disturbing part.
I'd think 3 major terrorist attacks linked to extremist muslims, 2 of them directly linked to refugees coming in would tell you to place a temporary stop on immigration.
No, Obama tells people it's their fault and that it's our duty to live among potentially more waiting-to-be terrorrists.
Why do they have to be 90% muslim? I'd want to be taking in other religious cultures, before I'd be taking in known terrorist hotspots.
The problem isn't just immigration. The problem is that the governments around the world are too PC in identifying troubled regions of people and putting a stop to those particular groups and allowing all other refugees in(which I'm fine with).
ThePhantomCreep
03-28-2016, 07:00 PM
It's an issue now because their true colors are showing. Bush never had to see these atrocities. Obama lets them in after knowing how violent they are.
Have any of the 750,000 refugees that have been admitted into the US since 9/11 been involved in a domestic terror attack? I know that a couple of Iraqis were arrested on possible weapon smuggling charges, but they were arrested on the spot.
YOUR true colors are showing, if anything. I'd bet anything the crime among refugees is a fraction of the national average. That goes for Europe too:http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugees-have-not-increased-crime-rate-in-germany/a-18848890
ThePhantomCreep
03-28-2016, 07:06 PM
That's the disturbing part.
I'd think 3 major terrorist attacks linked to extremist muslims, 2 of them directly linked to refugees coming in would tell you to place a temporary stop on immigration.
No, Obama tells people it's their fault and that it's our duty to live among potentially more waiting-to-be terrorrists.
Why do they have to be 90% muslim? I'd want to be taking in other religious cultures, before I'd be taking in known terrorist hotspots.
The problem isn't just immigration. The problem is that the governments around the world are too PC in identifying troubled regions of people and putting a stop to those particular groups and allowing all other refugees in(which I'm fine with).
What refugee link? The Paris attackers were EU nationals, and the girl in the San Bernardino attack married a US citizen to get here.
poido123
03-28-2016, 07:08 PM
Have any of the 750,000 refugees that have been admitted into the US since 9/11 been involved in a domestic terror attack? I know that a couple of Iraqis were arrested on possible weapon smuggling charges, but they were arrested on the spot.
YOUR true colors are showing, if anything. I'd bet anything the crime among refugees is a fraction of the national average. That goes for Europe too:http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugees-have-not-increased-crime-rate-in-germany/a-18848890
Isn't it pretty widely known that European governments have looked to cover up crime by refugees?
You cannot trust any sources of media or government information when it comes to the refugees. They are in damage control right now.
I'm pretty sure you know this to be true, only that you are having too much fun riling up right wing guys here to care about the truth :oldlol:
poido123
03-28-2016, 07:12 PM
What refugee link? The Paris attackers were EU nationals, and the girl in the San Bernardino attack married a US citizen to get here.
I cannot converse with someone who distorts reality to make an argument.
Do you want the problem to be dealt with? I don't know what you hope to achieve by doing this.
ThePhantomCreep
03-28-2016, 07:45 PM
Isn't it pretty widely known that European governments have looked to cover up crime by refugees?
You cannot trust any sources of media or government information when it comes to the refugees. They are in damage control right now.
I'm pretty sure you know this to be true, only that you are having too much fun riling up right wing guys here to care about the truth :oldlol:
Right, I should trust paranoid right-wing bigots and their stupid conspiracy theories instead.
Eff off.
poido123
03-28-2016, 08:05 PM
Right, I should trust paranoid right-wing bigots and their stupid conspiracy theories instead.
Eff off.
Calm down. I know logic isn't your strong suit, so you have a tanty whenever someone confronts your point of view. Typical lefty response.
Let's stop wasting time with name calling, can you explain to me why you aren't aware of damage control? You do know the European governments are having trouble containing people's disapproval of the refugees and their behaviour to this point?
Don't take my word for it, everyone except you knows about this.
ThePhantomCreep
03-28-2016, 08:12 PM
Calm down. I know logic isn't your strong suit, so you have a tanty whenever someone confronts your point of view. Typical lefty response.
Let's stop wasting time with name calling, can you explain to me why you aren't aware of damage control? You do know the European governments are having trouble containing people's disapproval of the refugees and their behaviour to this point?
Don't take my word for it, everyone except you knows about this.
Please supply proof that the German government is cooking the books with regards to refugee crime stats, otherwise there's no point in continuing this conversation.
poido123
03-28-2016, 08:15 PM
Please supply proof that the German government is cooking the books with regards to refugee crime stats, otherwise there's no point in continuing this conversation.
Please provide proof that you aren't a certifiable idiot and don't see what is going on.
According to you, refugees have been very civilised and caused no trouble?
Duderonomy
03-29-2016, 08:33 AM
That's the disturbing part.
I'd think 3 major terrorist attacks linked to extremist muslims, 2 of them directly linked to refugees coming in would tell you to place a temporary stop on immigration.
No, Obama tells people it's their fault and that it's our duty to live among potentially more waiting-to-be terrorrists.
Why do they have to be 90% muslim? I'd want to be taking in other religious cultures, before I'd be taking in known terrorist hotspots.
The problem isn't just immigration. The problem is that the governments around the world are too PC in identifying troubled regions of people and putting a stop to those particular groups and allowing all other refugees in(which I'm fine with).
Yeah I agree this is an issue I disagree with Obama on. It hasn't worked out well in Europe why do it here? Simple as that. I don't see Qutar taking any refugees. Hypocrisy across the board.
I think everyone has accepted that Bush was a retard?
Most right wingers wanted something done at the time(however crazy it was in light of 9/11).
right wingers are the only ones who can save this world from being PC'd to death.
What is the plan of American right wingers to save their own country from mass shootings done by their own residents?
Genuine question.
greymatter
03-29-2016, 04:36 PM
What is the plan of American right wingers to save their own country from mass shootings done by their own residents?
Genuine question.
Give everyone more guns. Make all publicly owned/funded places gun permissable.
Obviously if everyone was packing, a lone nut job would be taken down long before he/she could go on a killing spree.
Right wingers have gotten dumber and dumber over the years. Must be the excessive inbreeding,
Nick Young
03-29-2016, 04:42 PM
What is the plan of American right wingers to save their own country from mass shootings done by their own residents?
Genuine question.
America is dominating the world stage, including you guys and your EU brethren for the past 70 years or so now, and we're currently in the midst of a Pax Americana.
Seems like what we're doing is working out ok.
The real genuine question is why do Euros living in dying second world countries think they know better than the people running the biggest super power in world history?:confusedshrug:
America is dominating the world stage, including you guys and your EU brethren for the past 70 years or so now, and we're currently in the midst of a Pax Americana.
Seems like what we're doing is working out ok.
The real genuine question is why do Euros living in dying second world countries think they know better than the people running the biggest super power in world history?:confusedshrug:
That didn't answer my question though.
Nick Young
03-29-2016, 05:18 PM
That didn't answer my question though.
It directly answers your question. Our country does not need to be "saved from mass shooters". Our country is currently the #1 super power in the world, and the largest superpower in human history.
Don't fix what isn't broken.
It directly answers your question. Our country does not need to be "saved from mass shooters". Our country is currently the #1 super power in the world, and the largest superpower in human history.
Don't fix what isn't broken.
Mass shootings have killed more people in the USA in one year than all islamist terrorists in Europe in the last 60 years or so.
But yeah, that's all right for you I guess. Great nation that can't even defend its own people from each other.
Kvnzhangyay
03-29-2016, 05:45 PM
Great read: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/osaama-saifi/the-solution-to-stopping-isis-look-in-the-quran_b_9558174.html?
Nick Young
03-29-2016, 06:04 PM
Mass shootings have killed more people in the USA in one year than all islamist terrorists in Europe in the last 60 years or so.
But yeah, that's all right for you I guess. Great nation that can't even defend its own people from each other.
Freedom isn't free.
Get back to me when the Italy and the EU stop pressing the "peaceful Syrian refugee" self destruct button.:lol
poido123
03-29-2016, 09:33 PM
Mass shootings have killed more people in the USA in one year than all islamist terrorists in Europe in the last 60 years or so.
But yeah, that's all right for you I guess. Great nation that can't even defend its own people from each other.
They are two separate issues.
Why can't they be treated as such? Or do we need to drag in another issue to avoid dealing with the Islamic one?
NumberSix
03-29-2016, 10:57 PM
Mass shootings have killed more people in the USA in one year than all islamist terrorists in Europe in the last 60 years or so.
But yeah, that's all right for you I guess. Great nation that can't even defend its own people from each other.
And knives have killed more people than nuclear bombs. What's your point?
They are two separate issues.
Why can't they be treated as such? Or do we need to drag in another issue to avoid dealing with the Islamic one?
Sure they have to be treated as such.
Mass shootings have nothing to do with the Islamic issue (unless they overlap), but for reference, it's useful mentioning that they kill 60 times as much as islamists.
Yet, for the latter you're all riled up and "us = saviors", whereas for the former you're like "shit happens".
Nick Young
03-30-2016, 04:35 AM
Sure they have to be treated as such.
Mass shootings have nothing to do with the Islamic issue (unless they overlap), but for reference, it's useful mentioning that they kill 60 times as much as islamists.
Yet, for the latter you're all riled up and "us = saviors", whereas for the former you're like "shit happens".
logical fallacy thou name art Jasi
logical fallacy thou name art Jasi
Lol, the master of cherry picking talking about logical fallacies
robert de niro
03-30-2016, 06:48 AM
If people dislike Trump then you have to ask yourself who created Trump and that can very well be Obama.
If people dislike refugees then you have to ask yourself who created ISIS and that can very well be USA.
poido123
03-30-2016, 08:25 AM
Sure they have to be treated as such.
Mass shootings have nothing to do with the Islamic issue (unless they overlap), but for reference, it's useful mentioning that they kill 60 times as much as islamists.
Yet, for the latter you're all riled up and "us = saviors", whereas for the former you're like "shit happens".
I think one thing needs to be made clear here.
There is a distorted, cult like motive behind the killings in the name of Islam.
A distorted intrepretation of Islam is far more dangerous to mankind, than a guy who randomly shoots people because he is mentally ill and could of been properly treated.
We have already seen throughout history what cults and fundamentalism in religion can do.
ThePhantomCreep
03-30-2016, 08:35 AM
Mass shootings have killed more people in the USA in one year than all islamist terrorists in Europe in the last 60 years or so.
But yeah, that's all right for you I guess. Great nation that can't even defend its own people from each other.
He's a typical reichwing dipshit who lives vicariously through the power of America's military might. As if our ability to slaughter innocent civilians in numbers that would make ISIS blush is something to be proud of.
Also being the "bestest superpower ever" means shit when our QOL and infrastructure suck relative to other industrialized nations.
HitandRun Reggie
03-30-2016, 08:47 AM
Also being the "bestest superpower ever" means shit when our QOL and infrastructure suck relative to other industrialized nations.
I bet it it's better than where your ancestry is from, so maybe you should be a happy little glass full kinda guy and STFU.
kurple
03-30-2016, 09:02 AM
America is dominating the world stage, including you guys and your EU brethren for the past 70 years or so now, and we're currently in the midst of a Pax Americana.
Seems like what we're doing is working out ok.
The real genuine question is why do Euros living in dying second world countries think they know better than the people running the biggest super power in world history?:confusedshrug:
Did you finish HS? Honest question
It cant be easy when you make your sister pregnant at 14 tho
kurple
03-30-2016, 09:03 AM
Freedom isn't free.
Get back to me when the Italy and the EU stop pressing the "peaceful Syrian refugee" self destruct button.:lol
:roll: :roll:
What. A. Time.
Nick Young
03-30-2016, 12:06 PM
:roll: :roll:
What. A. Time.
As a Norwegian who grew up under state-run media and who never experienced true freedom, I understand your trepidation at my statement.
Unfortunately, true freedom is not something just anyone is allowed to experience.
If you want it, you have to fill out the visa papers and wait just like everyone else.
Or sneak across the Mexican border.
Until then, I will pray for you, your family, and your lack of freedoms.
You will never understand what true freedom looks like.
Nick Young
03-30-2016, 12:07 PM
Lol, the master of cherry picking talking about logical fallacies
Exactly, the master has called out your bullshit. Come back when you find an argument not reliant on logical fallacy and conjectgure :cheers:
Exactly, the master has called out your bullshit. Come back when you find an argument not reliant on logical fallacy and conjectgure :cheers:
Still didn't read from you about any idea for containing the phenomenon of mass shooting that kills hundreds of people every year in the US - except the ludicrous argument about it being a "necessary sacrifice" (:facepalm ) and a price to pay to the lobb... er, for freedom (:roll: ).
Nick Young
03-30-2016, 12:21 PM
Still didn't read from you about any idea for containing the phenomenon of mass shooting that kills hundreds of people every year in the US - except the ludicrous argument about it being a "necessary sacrifice" (:facepalm ) and a price to pay to the lobb... er, for freedom (:roll: ).
To answer your question, all you need to do is open your mind to this simple and universal truth. Freedom isn't free.
Look at you. Disgusting. An Italian man LOLing at the idea of true freedom.:facepalm
There was a time when your people were the bastions of true freedom in the west. Sadly, that was over 1,500 years ago now.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
To answer your question, all you need to do is open your mind to this simple and universal truth. Freedom isn't free.
Look at you. Disgusting. An Italian man LOLing at the idea of true freedom.:facepalm
There was a time when your people were the bastions of true freedom in the west. Sadly, that was over 1,500 years ago now.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
:roll:
Your idea of freedom is the Roman Empire huh?
Speaks volumes...
Say does that star spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and of the NSA?
Nick Young
03-30-2016, 01:05 PM
:roll:
Your idea of freedom is the Roman Empire huh?
Speaks volumes...
Say does that star spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and of the NSA?
No.
My idea of freedom is the American empire.
The NSA protects our freedoms.
This is a simple idea I am trying to help you understand:
Freedom isn't free.
No.
My idea of freedom is the American empire.
The NSA protects our freedoms.
This is a simple idea I am trying to help you understand:
Freedom isn't free.
Man you are turning into a parrot or what?
Keep repeating idioms that have nothing to do with the issue if you want.
People killed in mass shootings are not militaries at war fighting for freedom. They didn't FREELY choose to risk their lives by going to their classes or to the cinema or to the restaurant or whatever.
Thinking that their lives are acceptable losses is something you should be ashamed of, and is a sorry excuse to hide the inability of the US to protect their own people in their own land.
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