Has there ever been a team in NBA history with 4 perennial DPOY candidates?

[Fudge]

Draymond Green
Andre Iguodala
Klay Thompson
Andrew Bogut

:biggums:

The whole league is on suicide watch. :lol

It's gonna stay like this for the next 3-4 years too.

[Labissiere]

Klay and Iggy are not perennial DPOY candidates. Bogut isn't the same sort of player he used to be either.

[riseagainst]

lol what?

OP be smoking that crack.

:roll:

Only one with a case is Iggy since he abused Lebron in the finals. But even then, DPOY is awarded for the regular season, not playoffs.

[Labissiere]

Bulls with MJ, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper is above the Warriors players listed.

[stalkerforlife]

Damage control.

Cavs have three franchise players and the highest payroll in the league...no excuses.

[Fudge]

Not to mention borderline DPOY caliber players in Barnes and Ezeli.

That's just ridiculous.

Savagery.

[Labissiere]

Not to mention borderline DPOY caliber players in Barnes and Ezeli.

That's just ridiculous.

Savagery.
:coleman:

[Labissiere]

Damage control.

Cavs have three franchise players and the highest payroll in the league...no excuses.
This.

[3ball]

Bulls with MJ, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper is above the Warriors players listed.


MJ and Pippen yes..

But Harper was nowhere near all-nba defense at ANY point in his career.... and he was old and broken down... Otoh, Iggy was all-defense 1st team in 2014.

Also, Rodman didn't make any all-defensive teams in 1997 or 1998.. He only averaged 3/8 in 1997 playoffs AND 1998 Finals - he was SO bad in 1998 playoffs that he wasn't even a starter... His last good year was 1996 - in 1997 and 1998, he was actually the same broken-down garbage that he was in 1999 for the Lakers, but no one noticed because the Bulls were 3-peating.

[Labissiere]

MJ and Pippen yes..

But Harper was nowhere near all-nba defense at ANY point in his career.... and he was old and broken down... Otoh, Iggy was all-defense 1st team in 2014.

Also, Rodman didn't make any all-defensive teams in 1997 or 1998.. He only averaged 3/8 in 1997 playoffs AND 1998 Finals - he was SO bad in 1998 playoffs that he wasn't even a starter... His last good year was 1996 - in 1997 and 1998, he was actually the same broken-down garbage that he was in 1999 for the Lakers, but no one noticed because the Bulls were 3-peating.
I'm not saying that all those guys on the Bulls were all-nba. I'm saying they weren't, and I would still take them over the Warriors players who also aren't.

[Fudge]

MJ and Pippen yes..

But Harper was nowhere near all-nba defense at ANY point in his career.... and he was old and broken down... Otoh, Iggy was all-defense 1st team in 2014.

Also, Rodman didn't make any all-defensive teams in 1997 or 1998.. He only averaged 3/8 in 1997 playoffs AND 1998 Finals - he was SO bad in 1998 playoffs that he wasn't even a starter... His last good year was 1996 - in 1997 and 1998, he was actually the same broken-down garbage that he was in 1999 for the Lakers, but no one noticed because the Bulls were 3-peating.
Get his ass, baby.

[tmacattack33]

Klay Thompson is a pretty decent defender.

Not close to DPOY. LOL. What in the fukk.

[riseagainst]

Damage control.

Cavs have three franchise players and the highest payroll in the league...no excuses.


rofl OP got rekt hard.

:lol

[aj1987]

rofl OP got rekt hard.

:lol
Forgot to log into your alt?

[Fudge]

Forgot to log into your alt?
:yaohappy:

Kobe stans and their alts. Pathetic.

[3ball]

This thread is moot... Nearly ALL championship teams have a great defense - defense is more of a wash among championship teams.

Otoh, far less championship teams have a great offense - therefore, offensive capability is more of a differentiating factor when comparing championship teams.

Defense isn't what differentiated the 90's Bulls from the Bad Boys, 2000 Lakers, 2004 Pistons, or Spurs... It's their GOAT offense that separates them - the Bulls had the 2nd highest ORtg of all-time in 1996, and they had the highest ORtg of all-time for 3-year period during their 2nd three-peat...

Of course, the primary reason for their GOAT offense was Michael Jordan - we have advanced stats for the 1997 and 1998 seasons, and OLD Jordan scored a higher proportion of his team's points WHILE ON THE FLOOR than 2000 Shaq, 2015 Curry, 2016 Curry, and basically every player in history - see the stats from NBA.com here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12082990&postcount=185

[Lebronxrings]

yep.




No EXCUSES.

[Smoke117]

Draymond Green
Andre Iguodala
Klay Thompson
Andrew Bogut

:biggums:

The whole league is on suicide watch. :lol

It's gonna stay like this for the next 3-4 years too.

https://godofall.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/wade-laugh.gif

[Smoke117]

This thread is moot.

Nearly ALL championship teams have a great defense - defense is more of a wash among most championship teams.

Otoh, far less championship teams have a great offense - therefore, offensive capability is more of a differentiating factor when comparing championship teams.

Defense isn't what differentiated the 90's Bulls from the Bad Boys, 2000 Lakers, 2004 Pistons, or Spurs... It's their GOAT offense that separates them - the Bulls had the 2nd highest ORtg of all-time in 1996, and they had the highest ORtg of all-time for 3-year period during their 2nd three-peat...

Of course, the primary reason for their GOAT offense was Michael Jordan - we have advanced stats for the 1997 and 1998 seasons, and OLD Jordan scored a higher proportion of his team's points WHILE ON THE FLOOR than 2000 Shaq, 2015 Curry, 2016 Curry, and basically every player in history - see the stats from NBA.com here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12082990&postcount=185

Pippen >>> MJ defensively.

[3ball]

Pippen >>> MJ defensively.
New fans are ignorant - it was common knowledge AT THE TIME, that Jordan was the team's best defender:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=35m00s


However, new fans and pundits - who are annoyed that there's this guy Jordan that everyone says is the GOAT - have created a new narrative that Pippen was the team's best defender.

If that was the case, why was Jordan nearly always the primary defender on the other team's best player - Magic, Drexler, Reggie Miller, Isiah Thomas, Rod Strickland - all the opponents' best players, while Pippen was only the primary defender on Penny (who destroyed him for 25 ppg on 47%, except when MJ was on him, where he went 1-5 with 3 TO's).

[Dray n Klay]

Dray n Klay :banana:

[Inferno]

You losers act like praising all non-Steph Warriors players is supposed to make Warriors fans mad :roll:

[sd3035]

Pippen was much better than any defender on GS right now. Jordan and Curry were on the same level defensively, although Curry kills him on offense

[riseagainst]

Forgot to log into your alt?

you are a retard.

:hammerhead:

[rmt]

Pippen was much better than any defender on GS right now. Jordan and Curry were on the same level defensively, although Curry kills him on offense

This must be a joke, right?

[warriorfan]

OP used to be an OKC fan

let that sink in for a moment

:lol