People ACTUALLY think that Batman V Superman is the best comic book movie ever made..

[Nilocon165]

How? It's barely even a good movie. Did they just forget about Dark Knight, Spiderman 2 , or Guardians? I honestly want to know why this ok at best movie is being praised so much.

[9erempiree]

Very close to being greatest.

[StephHamann]

Sin City

[9erempiree]

HOW

Don't be a hipster and said you didn't like it.

This is a superhero action movie.

While I like Nolan's Batman but its a far cry from being a superhero movie. It's a superhero movie for Emo's.

Just like action adventure movies of the past, Willis, Arnold and Sly, while not particular good movies but they were good in entertaining the masses.

This is close to being a top 5 superhero movie of all time.

The plot was fantastic too.

[KobesFinger]

Nah. TDK, TDKR, Avengers, Iron-Man, Winter Soldier, Spiderman 2, Deadpool, X2 and Days of Future Past are all better IMO. Wonder Woman will probably be better too

[Labissiere]

Don't be a hipster and said you didn't like it.

This is a superhero action movie.

While I like Nolan's Batman but its a far cry from being a superhero movie. It's a superhero movie for Emo's.

Just like action adventure movies of the past, Willis, Arnold and Sly, while not particular good movies but they were good in entertaining the masses.

This is close to being a top 5 superhero movie of all time.

The plot was fantastic too.
Their best movies actually were coherent and didn't have random scenes that completely take you out of the moment (e.g., see WW randomly looking at Justice League files right before the climax). And the plot is pencil thin. Not sure how it is "fantastic."

[9erempiree]

Their best movies actually were coherent and didn't have random scenes that completely take you out of the moment (e.g., see WW randomly looking at Justice League files right before the climax). And the plot is pencil thin. Not sure how it is "fantastic."

Give me an example of a random scene. I thought there were a purpose behind every scene.

Also, you have to remember this is an introductory movie. It's kind of hard to try to fit everything when it involves 3 storied franchise players.

[Norcaliblunt]

It poses some decent philosophical questions, and has immense political / terrorism predictive programming. But overall it is cheesy as hell just like every superhero movie.

Also I find it weird and kinda sinister that they keep using real reporters and news networks in these fantasy films. There is something going on here with that. The merging of fantasy with reality.

[hitmanyr2k]

BvS is the new shiny object. Once the novelty wears off and the dumb story/morose characters stick out like a sore thumb over the golly-gee-whiz special effects it'll lose its luster.

[Trollsmasher]

the fact that some people argue over capeshit quality is the saddest aspect of this whole debacle

[Derka]

Also, you have to remember this is an introductory movie. It's kind of hard to try to fit everything when it involves 3 storied franchise players.
Yeah, it being an introductory movie is no excuse at all. You can't put people in a theater seat for almost three hours and not tell a story that doesn't stand up on its own. "Well, you have to see what's coming down the pipeline to really get why this happens" is a cop out for lazy writing and hack film-making.

This entire Justice League thing reeks of desperation. It says to me "Jesus Christ, we have to do something to get in on this universe building thing because Marvel is making all of the money ever with their shit. However, our Superman movie did only slightly better than a movie about motherf*cking Ant-Man so even though Nolan just made the definitive Batman movies and Ledger won a damn Oscar for The Joker, we need to reboot both characters for this and just force as many JLA people into this thing as we possibly can. Oh and Doomsday because RAWWR SPLOSIONS! And since we're making desperate shitty decisions, let's give this thing to the same **** who tanked Superman and makes every film look like a moody blue-grey video game."

[Bawkish]

They better take the franchise out of Snyder's hands or else he's going to ruin them

He's a visionary SFX director but a terrible storyteller. Justice League shoud be given to other directors who's more capable of handling ensemble casts. Let's see how David Ayer's work on Suicide Squad turns out

[IcanzIIravor]

They better take the franchise out of Snyder's hands or else he's going to ruin them

He's a visionary SFX director but a terrible storyteller. Justice League shoud be given to other directors who's more capable of handling ensemble casts. Let's see how David Ayer's work on Suicide Squad turns out

He can keep the Superman standalone movies (I don't give a damn about Superman, so he can ruin that). Let Affleck take over the Batman grizzled/tired franchise, let someone else do Wonder Woman and helm the other franchises and we could get some quality movies coming.

[Bandito]

Their best movies actually were coherent and didn't have random scenes that completely take you out of the moment (e.g., see WW randomly looking at Justice League files right before the climax). And the plot is pencil thin. Not sure how it is "fantastic."
That scene and the one with the dream sequence with Superman and Darkseid soldiers were giving a future taste to future movies.

[Bandito]

Also Guardians was overrated

[bluechox2]

dc ****ed up big time with the story they chose for this movie...they preejaculated by bringing in doomsday, then some more with the way they used superman...they has so many stories to choose from before this story line to introduce the justice league....

dc was in a rush to catch up to marvel but ended up stumbling on thier own retardedness

[Bawkish]

Doomsday & Wonder Woman i think were misplaced in this movie. Doomsday should be in the final film in a Supes trilogy. Supes is still a noob as superhero in this canon and having him died this early lessens the impact on the world. Hell, a few days before that they were condemning him for the deaths in the trial. Doomsday came in as a villain of the day instead of a God/Icon killer as he's supposed to be, he's the freaking one who killed THE Superman for chrissakes!

As for WW, well at first i think the role was miscast. I think Gina Carano is the perfect WW in terms of physical appearance. She has the physique and form of an Amazon woman. Beautiful and deadly. WW in this movie virtually served no purpose other than to complicate the already convoluted plot.

[LongLiveTheKing]

DC Fanboys are the worst they're extremely biased

[SexSymbol]

How? It's barely even a good movie. Did they just forget about Dark Knight, Spiderman 2 , or Guardians? I honestly want to know why this ok at best movie is being praised so much.
Some of the best writing, visuals and fight scenes ever.
It has clever moments, it has fun moments, it has sad moments, as well as terrifying ones.
This movie has everything.

[SexSymbol]

I can't argue with you considering you'll give every new hyped movie a 10/10. Are there any movies you don't like?
yes, many hyped ones like space odyssey, raiders of the lost ark, age of ultron, ant man and so on.
I'm just objective

[Im Still Ballin]

BvS was GOAT

[Labissiere]

That scene and the one with the dream sequence with Superman and Darkseid soldiers were giving a future taste to future movies.
I am very aware of that, but it takes me out of the moment. I wish the future movie stuff was saved for after the credits or something. Or just not there at all. We all know it is coming, we don't need disruptive reminders of future movies in the current movies. Some foreshadowing is fine, but this was just hammering you in the face while the focus should be the current plot.

[Labissiere]

Some of the best writing, visuals and fight scenes ever.
It has clever moments, it has fun moments, it has sad moments, as well as terrifying ones.
This movie has everything.
:roll:

[Rocketswin2013]

dc was in a rush to catch up to marvel but ended up stumbling on thier own retardedness
which is pointless because theyve been geting blown away in the film industry by marvel for the past decade or so. the gap is way too large to make up with just one movie. and they jumped the gun with this. :facepalm


i say this as a person who prefers dc characters over marvels by a lot.

[greymatter]

I know of no such people who believe this. Then again, I don't hang out or associate with imbeciles.

The movie was about what I expected, and I had low expectations to begin with. The comic book geeks I know predicted that trying to introduce too many elements (Wonder Woman, Doomsday) would cause shortcuts leading to bad story telling.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I know of no such people who believe this.



I do....



http://www.wallpaperhi.com/thumbnails/detail/20120125/wp-believe.jpg




The movie is not for everybody.... But it was for me.

[greymatter]

Superhero movie for emos? You're getting Snyder and Nolan mixed up.

And the plot was awful. Besides there being 20 plots going on at once, who would HONESTLY believe that batman would fall for the deception he was under.

Batman is a genius at both technological wizardry and at detective work. That was stressed in the cartoon series and Justice League, but never in the movies. Nonetheless, even a slightly above average intellect shouldn't have fallen for such a lame trick.



The last 30 minutes of the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, from doomsday to the Superman death that nobody cares for because they didn't do a good job with it.

I take it you haven't seen any of the last Transformers flicks (I only watched it because it was the only movie I hadn't seen yet during a UA flight)

[Doomsday Dallas]

BvS was GOAT


+1

[greymatter]

I do....


The movie is not for everybody.... But it was for me.

What exactly was "for you"?

-The part where Batman suddenly decides not to kill Superman because his mother has the same first name?

-The part where after trying to kill Superman, he 5 minutes later introduces himself as "a friend of your son" when he frees Martha Kent?

-The part where the president decides to use a fcuking nuke? (as if he couldn't simply outmaneuver something so clumsy)

-The especially retarded part about blaming Superman for the massacre in Africa (you know, the part where even the most rudimentary forensics would have noted that the people were killed by fcuking bullets).

More here:

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/26/11308944/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-review-spoilers-nonsense

[nightprowler10]

You gotta remember, it was great from a DC comic book fans perspective. It was basically like watching a comic book movie, not a movie with comic book characters. These are the same people that always thought Nolan's Batman wasn't up to par.

I liked it a lot and had all the pieces to be the best ever, but I wouldn't put it above the following:

TDK
Batman Begins
X-Men
Spiderman
Spiderman 2
Iron Man
Winter Soldier
TDKR

I watched the Keaton and Reeve movies as a kid so I don't remember much about them.

[greymatter]

You gotta remember, it was great from a DC comic book fans perspective. It was basically like watching a comic book movie, not a movie with comic book characters. These are the same people that always thought Nolan's Batman wasn't up to par.


I'm a big fan of the Justice League TV series as well as most of the cartoon movies that they put out (Superman Apocalypse and All Star, Batman/Superman Public Enemies, Green Lantern, etc).

The writing for them was top notch. By comparison, the Zach Snyder movie was a steaming pile of plot-hole ridden trash.

[rezznor]

even comic geeks didn't like the movie

http://io9.gizmodo.com/batman-v-superman-spoiler-faq-of-justice-1767720335

[Doomsday Dallas]

What exactly was "for you"?

I felt like it gave the fans everything they've been asking for...

If we are talking SPOILERS...

The fight between Superman v Batman gave us a clear cut winner. It was
Batman. If the movie ended right when Lois Lane stepped in,... and said,
"to be continued"... this movie would still be in my top 5. But no, they
give us an even better fight afterwards... I personally thought
Doomsday was incredible... He looked better than any CGI Hulk I've
ever seen....

But like I said Batman won the fight... Not only won the fight... but he beat the
living $hit out of him...

Also... Also... How can you not love the fact that Super Man died?

I had forgotten Doomsday kills SM in the comics... And I'm glad I did.
So right when I realized the good guy dies at the end... I thought to myself: "genius"



-The part where Batman suddenly decides not to kill Superman because his mother has the same first name?

What's wrong about that? Batman came to the realization that he was about to kill
a person that was much like himself... I have absolutely no problem with this except I did
kinda laugh at the way Ben Affleck delivered his lines here...

Bruce Wayne has been traumatized by his parents death his entire life... Nothing
to dislike about this.



-The part where after trying to kill Superman, he 5 minutes later introduces himself as "a friend of your son" when he frees Martha Kent?

Yea... and I actually laughed... One of the very few humorous lines in the film.
And that line was funny.

Batman meeting Martha Kent was funny.



-The part where the president decides to use a fcuking nuke? (as if he couldn't simply outmaneuver something so clumsy)

Nukes don't detonate on impact... it's not like the the nuke needed to make impact on the targets...
It just needed to be in close proximity.



-The especially retarded part about blaming Superman for the massacre in Africa (you know, the part where even the most rudimentary forensics would have noted that the people were killed by fcuking bullets).

I think there are a few issues here... but all this will be explained in prequels(or future films). I think we will be introduced to Lex Luthor's father... and get more of an understanding why Jessie Eisenberg hates SM so much.

Still,... The movie stands on it's own... It's not a mess...

who cares if they took 10-15 minutes of the film to set up scenes in future DC films?
That's only going to help this film in the long run.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Lets also try to remember how incredibly bad@ss that scene is where Batman
takes on 20 dudes with guns... (In the Final trailer)

The trailer doesn't indicate that this scene is actually 10x better in the movie.
And it's actually a close fight... Batman gets stabbed, and gets shot point blank in the back of the head twice.

That fight scene was also :bowdown:

I even thought the Bat-mobile was pretty cool... Same as the Bat-wing.





The way I see it.... they took Bruce Wayne and turned him into a
much better Iron Man.

[Lebron23]

It might become a cult classic a couple of years from now. The Comic nerds hated this movie because it was an original script.

[Labissiere]

-The part where after trying to kill Superman, he 5 minutes later introduces himself as "a friend of your son" when he frees Martha Kent?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KyuXT2eHlIM/U_lB4mUEbnI/AAAAAAAAIzM/_nWplmShFpc/w1200-h630-p-nu/stepbrothers-did-we-just-become-best-friends.gif

[tmacattack33]

Who cares.

[rezznor]

It might become a cult classic a couple of years from now. The Comic nerds hated this movie because it was an original script.

http://static.srcdn.com/slir/w570-h300-q90-c570:300/wp-content/uploads/Batman-vs.-Superman-in-Batman-The-Dark-Knight-Returns-Part-2.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/Superman75.jpg


not really

[embersyc]

http://static.srcdn.com/slir/w570-h300-q90-c570:300/wp-content/uploads/Batman-vs.-Superman-in-Batman-The-Dark-Knight-Returns-Part-2.jpg
not really

That's not even fair...

That fight in Dark Knight Returns Part 2 is at least 5x better than the fight in Batman V Superman. :D

[greymatter]

Because it was done in a bad way with no emotional impact maybe? :confusedshrug:

Yeah. No one gave a shit when he died. You want emotional impact with a death scene? Watch Inside Out (Bing Bong).

[rezznor]

biggest friday-sunday drop of all superhero movies. worse than the fantastic 4 reboot :oldlol:

http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/batman-vs-superman-suffers-worst-drop-any-super-hero-movie


BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN SUFFERS WORST DROP OFF OF ANY SUPER HERO MOVIE


Following Batman Vs. Superman's record opening (which was slightly less than originally estimated), it's now learned the Zack Snyder-directed follow up to Man of Steel has suffered the worse drop off of any super hero movie.

Forbes crunched the numbers (see chart below) and came up with Batman Vs. Superman dropping 55% from Friday's $82 million to Sunday's $37 million gross. That's even more than Fantastic Four. Ouch.

While the obvious reason would seem to be the Easter Sunday holiday, as noted, Batman Vs. Superman also suffered the second worst Friday-to-Saturday drop off with a decline of 38%, second to Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises 40% Friday-to-Saturday drop.

The numbers for this coming weekend should say a lot: whether or not Batman Vs. Superman has any staying power, or similar to Man of Steel which came out roaring out of the box office as well, will Dawn of Justice peter out? Initially, there was talk of a Man of Steel sequel following its own big opening, but as the box office draw saw tumbleweeds, Batman and the Justice League were added to the next movie (this one).

People have been saying the critics reviews don't matter, while that may be true, what matters is a good quality movie. Again similar to Man of Steel, Batman Vs. Superman seems to be received as a mixed bag: some love various parts (mainly Batman and Wonder Woman); some hate various parts (Lex Luthor, Doomsday, Superman).

It's also been said WB needs to get at least $900 million out of Batman Vs. Superman to break even, so what happens if they don't? Justice League starts filming in a couple of weeks with Zack Snyder back yet again. It seemed as if David Goyer took the fall for Man of Steel not hitting a billion, who this time?
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/images/box-office-chart-drops.jpg

[fiddy]

USD 900 million to break even? fuсk outta here, are those people sleeping on open window in the winter time

[greymatter]

When Rotten Tomatoes has you pegged at ~30%, it's pretty much guaranteed that there isn't going to be any staying power. This movie isn't good enough to rewatch like the first Avengers, Avatar, or the latest Star Wars.

[TYCRO]

Yeah. No one gave a shit when he died. You want emotional impact with a death scene? Watch Inside Out (Bing Bong).
I hate when they "kill" characters that are obviously coming back.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwcJjE_61XE
Hitler reacts to Batman v Superman reviews


completely disagree with Adolph Hitler on this one.

[eliteballer]

What they should have done after Man of Steel is:

Batman movie

Batman vs Superman

Superman movie with Doomsday(Superman dies)

Wonder Woman movie with Aquaman( Their kingdoms at war etc.) and necessary cameos

Justice League Part 1 including the return of Superman.

[RoseCity07]

It's easily one of the worst I've ever seen srs.

[Bawkish]

Like i said before:

TAke this franchise out of Zack Snyder's hands!!

[rezznor]

dropped 81% in a week


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Sometimes it can be tough to tell whether Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is a success or a failure, both financially and creatively. A look at the audience score vs. the reviews from professional critics on Rotten Tomatoes, for instance, seems to indicate that the two groups do not see eye to eye. And while the movie had huge ticket sales up to and during its opening weekend, those sales numbers dropped rather quickly.

In our own box office analysis, Screen Rant estimated that Batman V Superman would see a 60% drop from its first weekend to its second, down from $166 million in ticket sales to about $66.4 million. While the strength of its repeat ticket purchases offered some hope that the movie

[Cali Syndicate]

What they should have done after Man of Steel is:

Batman movie

Batman vs Superman

Superman movie with Doomsday(Superman dies)

Wonder Woman movie with Aquaman( Their kingdoms at war etc.) and necessary cameos

Justice League Part 1 including the return of Superman.

Yup. They should have milked the shit out of this. Would have created a better storyline too. But BvS did the dc universe a huge solid. Trying to cram too much and leaving too much out was the only fault of this movie, otherwise was fully entertaining and enjoyable. Don't understand the drop off from opening night other than people allowing ratings to dictate whether they should watch a movie. I for one that that shit with a grain of salt. Same goes for Yelp reviews.

[rezznor]

Yup. They should have milked the shit out of this. Would have created a better storyline too. But BvS did the dc universe a huge solid. Trying to cram too much and leaving too much out was the only fault of this movie, otherwise was fully entertaining and enjoyable. Don't understand the drop off from opening night other than people allowing ratings to dictate whether they should watch a movie. I for one that that shit with a grain of salt. Same goes for Yelp reviews.
the staying power of huge blockbusters often rely on good word of mouth and repeat viewings from super fans. bvs isn't getting either of these.

[Cali Syndicate]

the staying power of huge blockbusters often rely on good word of mouth and repeat viewings from super fans. bvs isn't getting either of these.

Repeat viewings are usually because the movies has a more complex dialogue. BvS was very straightforward with a simple format. Mainly because the storyline is missing a shitload of details.

[rezznor]

Repeat viewings are usually because the movies has a more complex dialogue. BvS was very straightforward with a simple format. Mainly because the storyline is missing a shitload of details.
avatar, titanic, and star wars have complex dialogue?

[GOATJono]

Only good part of the movie was when Wonder Woman blocked Doomsday's laser with her shield for Batman, then the intense music came on. That was hot.:lol :lol

[SwayDizzle]

deadpool and Dark knight

[Raymone]

Being the best comic book movie ever made is like being king turd of shit mountain.

[TYCRO]

Yup. They should have milked the shit out of this. Would have created a better storyline too. But BvS did the dc universe a huge solid. Trying to cram too much and leaving too much out was the only fault of this movie, otherwise was fully entertaining and enjoyable. Don't understand the drop off from opening night other than people allowing ratings to dictate whether they should watch a movie. I for one that that shit with a grain of salt. Same goes for Yelp reviews.
Yes, but this would require Zach Snyder to use a script and not just recreate scenes from the comics rushed and out of context.

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0WXgZdwC4c

11 Batman v Superman Easter Eggs You Didn't Notice

[Meticode]

I saw this last night. My thoughts and spoilers below in white...

I cannot get past Eisenberg playing Lex Luthor. He just doesn't do it for me. His portrayal of Luther made me cringe even if the writers and director wanted him to act that way on purpose. His character was horribly done to me, and he was an abundant eye sore.

The whole franchise seems rushed now. Just in one film alone they introduce Batman, Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Lex Luther, Doomsday and Cyborg. Even though a lot of those characters are are very short mentions in the film, it just screams out, "Hey guys, we're going to feature these guys too! Please keep coming back to watch our movies." Just way too much mashed up into one movie.

Two things stood out to me during the finale climactic scene. One, Batman just feels like he shouldn't even be there. He's just spectating except for the one gas kryponade. His character was absolutely worthless the last 5-10 minutes of that fight. Two, I love how Batman and Superman get all buddy-buddy and Batman just seemingly throws down the one thing that can kill superman on the ground and just forgets about it. :oldlol: Like, "Oh, there's this huge piece of kryponite here, I'll just leave this in this construction site. It'll be okay." Then Lois chucks it down a water void. :lol I'm sitting here thinking, "Are these the stupidest heros ever?"

After just one film of introducing characters they're already pushing Darkseid.

Overall I was entertained, but because of Eisenberg and way too many plot holes I give it a 6.5/10. If Luther was better casted and a couple plot holes were more thought-out so they would've been received better it would've been a solid 8 for me.

[LongLiveTheKing]

It's not even going to pass TDKR or IM3 at the box office :oldlol:

DC Fanboys were claiming it was going to make 2 billion dollars :roll:

[Nick Young]

This movie just sucks. I saw it two weeks ago and barely remember anything at all from it. Superman Returns was better, at least it had Spacey

[Meticode]

Yepz

[ROCSteady]

avatar, titanic, and star wars have complex dialogue?

Yes bro.

Avatar
Jake Sully: I see you.
Neytiri: I see you.

Titanic
Rose: I love you, Jack.
Jack: Don't you do that, don't say your good-byes. Not yet, do you understand me?
Rose: I'm so cold
Rose: I can't feel my body.
Jack: Never let go.
Rose: I'll never let go, Jack. I'll never let go.

[SexSymbol]

I saw this last night. My thoughts and spoilers below in white...

I cannot get past Eisenberg playing Lex Luthor. He just doesn't do it for me. His portrayal of Luther made me cringe even if the writers and director wanted him to act that way on purpose. His character was horribly done to me, and he was an abundant eye sore.

The whole franchise seems rushed now. Just in one film alone they introduce Batman, Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Lex Luther, Doomsday and Cyborg. Even though a lot of those characters are are very short mentions in the film, it just screams out, "Hey guys, we're going to feature these guys too! Please keep coming back to watch our movies." Just way too much mashed up into one movie.

Two things stood out to me during the finale climactic scene. One, Batman just feels like he shouldn't even be there. He's just spectating except for the one gas kryponade. His character was absolutely worthless the last 5-10 minutes of that fight. Two, I love how Batman and Superman get all buddy-buddy and Batman just seemingly throws down the one thing that can kill superman on the ground and just forgets about it. :oldlol: Like, "Oh, there's this huge piece of kryponite here, I'll just leave this in this construction site. It'll be okay." Then Lois chucks it down a water void. :lol I'm sitting here thinking, "Are these the stupidest heros ever?"

After just one film of introducing characters they're already pushing Darkseid.

Overall I was entertained, but because of Eisenberg and way too many plot holes I give it a 6.5/10. If Luther was better casted and a couple plot holes were more thought-out so they would've been received better it would've been a solid 8 for me.

They introduced superman in bvs? :D
And Lois threw that spear down the water because she understands that it can hurt superman, and she's trying to protect him as much as she can.

Did you not like eisenberg's performance or the decisions lex makes in the film?
Because some of those decisions are flawlessly evil, like gramma's peach tea scene and stuff, I understand why someone would have a problem with his portrayal, especially considering that most peopl can't accept new versions of character even if this isn't the lex from comics and shows, just his son.