Serge Ibaka BLASTS Westbrook in the middle of an 8 game win streak...

[stalkerforlife]

http://thebiglead.com/2016/03/29/serge-ibaka-sends-subtle-message-to-russell-westbrook-eight-minutes-and-you-dont-touch-the-ball/

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[TheMarkMadsen]

I've been saying this too. WB only looks to pass when he knows its an assist opportunity.

His assist numbers are so overrated. A guy like Curry who averages 6 assist per game opens up the game and creates more for his teammates than a 12 assist "you're only getting the ball if you're in immediate scoring position" game from Westbrook

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

It would help if Serge could consistently catch a basketball which he cant
he can hit the open jumper, thats all he can do on O.

he will continue to be spoon fed by KD and Russ and ppl will overlook his offensive decline to Perkins level

[stalkerforlife]

I've been saying this too. WB only looks to pass when he knows its an assist opportunity.

His assist numbers are so overrated. A guy like Curry who averages 6 assist per game opens up the game and creates more for his teammates than a 12 assist "you're only getting the ball if you're in immediate scoring position" game from Westbrook

No joke...i'm glad there are people like you that understand the game.

I feel lonely sometimes with my understanding of the game, but you're a good poster.

Spot on post.

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]http://thebiglead.com/2016/03/29/serge-ibaka-sends-subtle-message-to-russell-westbrook-eight-minutes-and-you-dont-touch-the-ball/

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[Legends66NBA7]

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This guys guesstimate that it was to Westbrook. Why not Durant ? What if Waiters holds ball too long ?

Maybe Ibaka should just shut up and and keep playing. Guy lives off 2 superstars coattails his whole career.

[MP.Trey]

If he actually had a post game, just one go to move on the block, I might agree with him.

[Marchesk]

Thunder 16-0 when Westbrook statpads.

Dem empty stats doe :applause:

Who the eff is Ibaka to complain? He's not Kevin Love or Chris Bosh or Shaq. And why in the hell is he standing in the corner for 8 minutes as power forward?

[Mike smith]

Westbrook is not a title winning player. He is holding Durant and the whole team back.


Honestly Durant should just come to LAL where he can play next to a real PG. I'm sick of watching Westbrook ruin Durant's potential.
Ahh who is a real point guard on the lakers?? Lakers stink Durant ain't going there. Keep dreaming nick young

[miggyme1]

[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]http://thebiglead.com/2016/03/29/serge-ibaka-sends-subtle-message-to-russell-westbrook-eight-minutes-and-you-dont-touch-the-ball/

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[warriorfan]

Westbrook is empty stats

nothing new to see here

[ralph_i_el]

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[Fire Colangelo]

Don't the Thunder have some kind of ridiculous record when Westbrook gets a triple double?

For the record... I'd rather have Westbrook handling the ball than Ibaka trying to make a play. He doesn't have good hands, doesn't have a post game... who the hell is he to complain that he has to stand in a corner? What CAN he do other than hitting a jumpshot here and there on offense?

It's one thing if KD complains... but Ibaka? Jesus :oldlol: Atleast Kanter has good hands and knows how to get in position to score the basketball... Ibaka just looks clueless at times... and he wants the ball? To do what?

[stalkerforlife]

Like a modern day Kobe

You don't know anything about the game of basketball.

[Akrazotile]

http://thebiglead.com/2016/03/29/serge-ibaka-sends-subtle-message-to-russell-westbrook-eight-minutes-and-you-dont-touch-the-ball/

“I’m gonna tell you the truth, it’s hard sometimes when you play hard, you play you’re (butt off),” Ibaka swore, before apologizing and rephrasing. “You play so hard on defense, then you come to offense and you’re going to be out there in the corner for 4, 5, 6, sometimes 8 minutes and you don’t touch the ball. We human, man. It’s hard.”

I'm telling you, dude...Westbrook has great box scores, but the dude kills team chemistry. He pounds the rock and disrupts ball movement. He doesn't focus on being effective off the ball like Curry.

Westbrook is overrated.



Ive been saying this his whole career. Guy is not an asset. His team could compensate for all his scoring and assist numbers without him by simply moving the ball around, and theyd actually do it even more efficiently. This is the same as when Carmelo left the Nuggets and they were better.

"But bbbbut but 25 points per teh games!!!"

Dumb ass fans.

[hold this L]

I've been saying this too. WB only looks to pass when he knows its an assist opportunity.

His assist numbers are so overrated. A guy like Curry who averages 6 assist per game opens up the game and creates more for his teammates than a 12 assist "you're only getting the ball if you're in immediate scoring position" game from Westbrook
That's because Curry is not an idiot on the court and understand the concept that team basketball is better (usually) than hero ball. That's why he goes 4-6 minutes without shooting as he sets screens or makes run to open lanes for teammates if he's not making the assist himself. That's why when he's not shooting too hot these last few games, he's been getting several more assists than before. Why when Klay is hot, he turns into a passer more than a shooter which is we saw that dumbass highlight reel where he passes the ball to Klay instead of shooting an open 3.. which is why we have two scenarios where Klay doesn't mind playing second fiddle to Curry while Ibaka is frustrated as hell during Thunder's 8 game run.

The only ball dominant PG should be CP3 because his vision and passing is above everyone else. Westbrick is a stat monster but doesn't play like a PG should. He needs to be moved to a SG and not be given the ball for half the time he holds it, it's detrimental to the team right now.

[imdaman99]

Ibaka is full of shit. Kanter gets the ball plenty and he doesn't play defense at all. Wanna know why? Because he can catch the ball and he knows how to score. Ibaka is someone that cannot create his own shot or back someone down unless it's someone he is a foot taller than. The guy is a role player getting paid good money, STFU and learn some offense. Maybe grab a rebound too once in a while.

[imdaman99]

Ive been saying this his whole career. Guy is not an asset. His team could compensate for all his scoring and assist numbers without him by simply moving the ball around, and theyd actually do it even more efficiently. This is the same as when Carmelo left the Nuggets and they were better.

"But bbbbut but 25 points per teh games!!!"

Dumb ass fans.
How many playoff series did the Nuggets win after the melo trade?
How many playoff series have the Lakers won without Kobe the last 15 years?
How many playoff series did the Thunder win without Westbrook? OK that was 1, but they had a 3-6 record in the playoffs without him.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Thunder 16-0 when Westbrook statpads.

Dem empty stats doe :applause:

Who the eff is Ibaka to complain? He's not Kevin Love or Chris Bosh or Shaq. And why in the hell is he standing in the corner for 8 minutes as power forward?

lmao, this. Westbrook gets the job done, while Ibaka has regressed as a player.

[Akrazotile]

How many playoff series did the Nuggets win after the melo trade?
How many playoff series have the Lakers won without Kobe the last 15 years?
How many playoff series did the Thunder win without Westbrook? OK that was 1, but they had a 3-6 record in the playoffs without him.



:facepalm

[Segatti]

Kobe stans being retarded as always.

[TheMarkMadsen]

That's because Curry is not an idiot on the court and understand the concept that team basketball is better (usually) than hero ball. That's why he goes 4-6 minutes without shooting as he sets screens or makes run to open lanes for teammates if he's not making the assist himself. That's why when he's not shooting too hot these last few games, he's been getting several more assists than before. Why when Klay is hot, he turns into a passer more than a shooter which is we saw that dumbass highlight reel where he passes the ball to Klay instead of shooting an open 3.. which is why we have two scenarios where Klay doesn't mind playing second fiddle to Curry while Ibaka is frustrated as hell during Thunder's 8 game run.

The only ball dominant PG should be CP3 because his vision and passing is above everyone else. Westbrick is a stat monster but doesn't play like a PG should. He needs to be moved to a SG and not be given the ball for half the time he holds it, it's detrimental to the team right now.


:applause: :applause:


agree with all of that and to add on, This team has got to run an offense because they just rely on talent to win games. That works in the regular season when you have two top five players, but when the playoffs come around and the game slows down that shit isn't going to work against great teams.

I used to blame their coach, but at this point we have to start putting some of the blame on KD/WB. Even the GOAT's needed good offensive schemes to maximize their results.

[Showtime2001]

Like a modern day Kobe
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[TheMarkMadsen]

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good lord can you imagine 06-10 Kobe (WB is 27, Kobe was 27 in 06) playing on this team with KD

put KD at the 4, run the triangle and its game over.

[KevinDurant35]

https://media.giphy.com/media/nYHRWagU8EDtu/giphy.gif
Look at that Asian bitch in the back. I bet she a freak. :lol

[Showtime2001]

good lord can you imagine 06-10 Kobe (WB is 27, Kobe was 27 in 06) playing on this team with KD

put KD at the 4, run the triangle and its game over.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[bizil]

I've been saying this too. WB only looks to pass when he knows its an assist opportunity.

His assist numbers are so overrated. A guy like Curry who averages 6 assist per game opens up the game and creates more for his teammates than a 12 assist "you're only getting the ball if you're in immediate scoring position" game from Westbrook

Interesting point! Even though Westbrook's assists have gone up, he's a SCORE FIRST PG! Curry is score first too, BUT he's a better floor general than Westbrook. U can tell by the flair and effortless nature of Steph's passes that's he a better floor general than Russ.

But due to Steph's phenomenal scoring ability and GS's talent depth-offensive schemes, he doesn't ball stop. So among the great score first PG's, Steph is the best floor general. Even though Westbrook has the better assists numbers. Russ is a beast and top 5 player in the world. BUT his floor generalship still isn't where it needs to be. Even though he has awesome assists numbers. He's a great scorer who also can be an impressive passer. But a PG like CP3 is a GREAT PASSER who can also be a great scorer. There is a difference... No doubt CP3 would make Ibaka MUCH MORE of threat.

[chips93]

all these people shitting on westbrook, ignoring the fact that okc has the second best offense in the league with him handling the ball.

it would be great if westbrook could just move the ball, and let the whole team create offense, but okc doesnt have a worthwhile offense to fall back on, or anybody other than kd who can create anything.

[TheMarkMadsen]

all these people shitting on westbrook, ignoring the fact that okc has the second best offense in the league with him handling the ball.

it would be great if westbrook could just move the ball, and let the whole team create offense, but okc doesnt have a worthwhile offense to fall back on, or anybody other than kd who can create anything.


At what point do you start blaming the players? At what point do you ask if its the players not allowing a system to be put in place?

I can't imagine Billy Donavan walked into OKC and said, "alright guys nothing changes keep playing the same."

From the games that I've seen of OKC (especially games that are close down the stretch) almost nothing has changed. When they need a bucket it's still iso WB or iso KD and maybe a pnr..

that isn't going to work consistently against the Spurs or the Warriors

[Draz]

He needs to chill. If it's working, he shouldn't complain. It's do whatever you take to win not have fun.

[Vragrant]

[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]http://thebiglead.com/2016/03/29/serge-ibaka-sends-subtle-message-to-russell-westbrook-eight-minutes-and-you-dont-touch-the-ball/

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[Dro]

If he actually had a post game, just one go to move on the block, I might agree with him.
/thread

If he'd just demand the ball on the block, I'm sure they'd give it to him. They give to Kanter, and even Waiters. Serge is a PF. If he'd stop standing around on the perimeter, he may get the ball more. Set a pick. Anybody who plays ball knows, one of the best ways to get the ball is to set a pick, they trap him, you're open, roll to the hoop like Adams and Kanter do instead of popping out for jumpers...

[knicksman]

What annoyed me the most is during 2014 when okc just destroying teams without him. They even destroyed cle. And because of his insecurity, he came back against cle and attempted more than durant in his first game and got destroyed. And what did okc do? Still let this cancer on the team despite the obvious already. Okc front office is dumb

[Blue&Orange]

I've been saying this too. WB only looks to pass when he knows its an assist opportunity.

His assist numbers are so overrated. A guy like Curry who averages 6 assist per game opens up the game and creates more for his teammates than a 12 assist "you're only getting the ball if you're in immediate scoring position" game from Westbrook
Lebronball, other players are catching on. First Harden, now westbrook.

[FultzNationRISE]

LeBoss has to win with this friggin dude?? :facepalm

[rawimpact]

No joke...i'm glad there are people like you that understand the game.

I feel lonely sometimes with my understanding of the game, but you're a good poster.

Spot on post.

Stalker's subtle humor was entertaining


Glad he got his life together.

[TheCorporation]

LeBoss has to win with this friggin dude?? :facepalm

Against all odds

LeHardest Road

[Airupthere]

Only passes when it is a stat opportunity. Sounds like we are going to have two Lebrons in LAL.