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JohnMax
03-30-2016, 03:50 AM
If wade played in the pre-handcheck ban era, he would have been just another above average player.

Wade's game has always been very limited. He's a poor shooter generally and a very poor 3 point shooter. He's a poor passer. He doesn't defend other than to get out of position to go for flashy blocks or steals.

His entire game consists of being able to take people off the dribble, unstoppable since they banned handchecking, drive to the hole, flick the ball up usually not even looking at the basket or trying to score, and then looking to the refs to bail him out.

WayOfWade
03-30-2016, 03:55 AM
How many players in this generation can boast 3 titles and a FMVP? I know he certainly isn't THE best, but he's certainly ONE of the best.

MiseryCityTexas
03-30-2016, 03:55 AM
People forgot that Wade was on a play-off team before 2006. people also forgot that Wade started his NBA career playing point guard. The Odom, Wade, Caron Butler, and Rafer Alston Heat were an underrated team.

SaltyMeatballs
03-30-2016, 04:01 AM
If played in the pre-handcheck ban era, he would have been just another above average player.

Wade's game has always been very limited. He's a poor shooter generally and a very poor 3 point shooter. He's a poor passer. He doesn't defend other than to get out of position to go for flashy blocks or steals.

His entire game consists of being able to take people off the dribble, unstoppable since they banned handchecking, drive to the hole, flick the ball up usually not even looking at the basket or trying to score, and then looking to the refs to bail him out.
Same could be said for many other players, retard :oldlol:

MiseryCityTexas
03-30-2016, 04:01 AM
Wade's a natural 2, but played a better point guard role when he was a rookie than most natural rookie point guards. (Mike Conley, D'Angelo Russel, Kenny Anderson,and Kyle Lowry's rookie seasons for example.)

raprap
03-30-2016, 04:03 AM
:facepalm

MiseryCityTexas
03-30-2016, 04:12 AM
Dwyane Wade & Eddie Jones = Most forgotten and most slept-on starting backcourt in NBA History.

Im Still Ballin
03-30-2016, 04:22 AM
He's getting a little bit overrated as of late around here

GrapeApe
03-30-2016, 04:47 AM
Wade's game limited? Wade a poor passer? Is this real life? :oldlol:

Wade is one of the most highly skilled and well rounded guards in history. He doesn't shoot many 3's, but he is good to great at literally every other aspect of the game. This is a ridiculous thread.

IllegalD
03-30-2016, 04:55 AM
How many players in this generation can boast 3 titles and a FMVP? I know he certainly isn't THE best, but he's certainly ONE of the best.

He won two being carried by LeBron (on a stacked superteam squad) and his other one with the MDE in Shaq.

He should be ranked below Pippen.

WayOfWade
03-30-2016, 05:03 AM
He won two being carried by LeBron (on a stacked superteam squad) and his other one with the MDE in Shaq.

He should be ranked below Pippen.
Please stop acting autistic for a second and be objective. So Wade won a title with a 13.7 ppg MDE? Okay, if you say so. And was Wade carried? Undoubtedly yes for stretches, but we're he not there the Heat wouldn't've won those titles. In Wade's 13 years in the League, what players are more accomplished? LeBron? Kobe? Duncan? I think that's about it

oti
03-30-2016, 05:07 AM
If wade played in the pre-handcheck ban era, he would have been just another above average player.

Wade's game has always been very limited. He's a poor shooter generally and a very poor 3 point shooter. He's a poor passer. He doesn't defend other than to get out of position to go for flashy blocks or steals.

His entire game consists of being able to take people off the dribble, unstoppable since they banned handchecking, drive to the hole, flick the ball up usually not even looking at the basket or trying to score, and then looking to the refs to bail him out.

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
Dude , can i get some of what you are smoking?

Are you trying to qualify for worst post of the year?

BasedTom
03-30-2016, 05:19 AM
Dwyane Wade & Eddie Jones = Most forgotten and most slept-on starting backcourt in NBA History.
pretty much, unfortunate as it is

IllegalD
03-30-2016, 05:34 AM
Please stop acting autistic for a second and be objective. So Wade won a title with a 13.7 ppg MDE? Okay, if you say so. And was Wade carried? Undoubtedly yes for stretches, but we're he not there the Heat wouldn't've won those titles. In Wade's 13 years in the League, what players are more accomplished? LeBron? Kobe? Duncan? I think that's about it

Revisionist history at it's finest. This is why no one takes Wade Stanleys like yourself seriously.

Shaq 06 Averages:

Regular Season:

20 PPG, 9 TRB, 2 BLK on 60% FG

Playoffs:

18 PPG, 10 TRB, 2 BLK on 61% FG

Those numbers are literally on par with PRIME Gasol (you know, the player you guys like to claim was "the real MVP" of those Laker championship teams), except with even more ridiculous efficiency. :eek:

And :roll: at you saying "they wouldn't have won those championships without him". Literally the same thing can be said of Kobe's first 3 rings, you mongoloid. :lol

BasedTom
03-30-2016, 05:45 AM
Revisionist history at it's finest. This is why no one takes Wade Stanleys like yourself seriously.

Shaq 06 Averages:

Regular Season:

20 PPG, 9 TRB, 2 BLK on 60% FG

Playoffs:

18 PPG, 10 TRB, 2 BLK on 61% FG

Those numbers are literally on par with PRIME Gasol (you know, the player you guys like to claim was "the real MVP" of those Laker championship teams), except with even more ridiculous efficiency. :eek:

And :roll: at you saying "they wouldn't have won those championships without him". Literally the same thing can be said of Kobe's first 3 rings, you mongoloid. :lol
victim complex kobe-obsessed dickrider shifting the goalposts because someone vaguely compares the accomplishments of another player to their idol

we haven't seen much of that on this site now, have we?

****ing melt

IllegalD
03-30-2016, 05:51 AM
victim complex kobe-obsessed dickrider shifting the goalposts because someone vaguely compares the accomplishments of another player to their idol

we haven't seen much of that on this site now, have we?

****ing melt

How am I "shifting goalposts"? :confusedshrug:

Because I called out a Wade Stanley f*ggot on his blatant lying and cherry-picking stats from one series to try to underrate Shaq's impact?

:lol you sound like a Kobe-hating f*ggot who's mad that the internet exists where bullsh*t narratives and inaccurate posts can easily be exposed with a quick google search.

MELT. DOWN.

How's it feel knowing that a grown ass man with one foot in the basketball grave has such an affect on your psyche? :lol

navy
03-30-2016, 05:56 AM
If wade played in the pre-handcheck ban era, he would have been just another above average player.

Wade's game has always been very limited. He's a poor shooter generally and a very poor 3 point shooter. He's a poor passer. He doesn't defend other than to get out of position to go for flashy blocks or steals.

His entire game consists of being able to take people off the dribble, unstoppable since they banned handchecking, drive to the hole, flick the ball up usually not even looking at the basket or trying to score, and then looking to the refs to bail him out.
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1328482#start_here

Thanks TMZ

BasedTom
03-30-2016, 06:06 AM
How am I "shifting goalposts"? :confusedshrug:

Because I called out a Wade Stanley f*ggot on his blatant lying and cherry-picking stats from one series to try to underrate Shaq's impact?

:lol you sound like a Kobe-hating f*ggot who's mad that the internet exists where bullsh*t narratives and inaccurate posts can easily be exposed with a quick google search.

MELT. DOWN.

How's it feel knowing that a grown ass man with one foot in the basketball grave has such an affect on your psyche? :lol
lol more complete bullshit. Are you a Liverpool supporter too by any chance, because the crying and "waaaah why isn't it about us!" factor is through the ****ing roof.

This thread has **** all to do with kobe except for him being namedropped AS ONE OF THE COUPLE OF PLAYERS OF THIS ERA MORE ACCOMPLISHED THAN WADE, but suddenly that's enough to set off the alarm and send you swarming to bball reference trying to justify the outlandish nonsense in the OP. Which this ****** didn't even put the effort to write himself.

How immensely pathetic and insecure can you possibly be? You gonna bust out the pauk essays next time someone makes a thread on Iverson?

IllegalD
03-30-2016, 06:08 AM
lol more complete bullshit. Are you a Liverpool supporter too by any chance, because the crying and "waaaah why isn't it about us!" factor is through the ****ing roof.

This thread has **** all to do with kobe except for him being namedropped AS ONE OF THE COUPLE OF PLAYERS OF THIS ERA MORE ACCOMPLISHED THAN WADE, but suddenly that's enough to set off the alarm and send you swarming to bball reference trying to justify the outlandish nonsense in the OP. Which this ****** didn't even put the effort to write himself.

How immensely pathetic and insecure can you possibly be? You gonna bust out the pauk essays next time someone makes a thread on Iverson?


Again, tell me where I shifted goal posts? :confusedshrug:

What a coward little f*ggot you are completely ignoring the fact that the Wade Stanley completely manufactured/cherry picked stats to make 06 Shaq come off as some 13 PPG roleplayer. :lol

Im Still Ballin
03-30-2016, 06:09 AM
T.o.m

BasedTom
03-30-2016, 06:19 AM
Again, tell me where I shifted goal posts? :confusedshrug:

What a coward little f*ggot you are completely ignoring the fact that the Wade Stanley completely manufactured/cherry picked stats to make 06 Shaq come off as some 13 PPG roleplayer. :lol
The poster made concessions and was merely pointing out the absurdity that 06 Shaq was still MDE Shaq. You accuse others of being "Wade stanleys" (wackest insult in the history of this site btw) while you post worthless revisionist crap like this:


He won two being carried by LeBron (on a stacked superteam squad) and his other one with the MDE in Shaq.

He should be ranked below Pippen.
You're not actually remotely interested in Wade's career. I would be surprised if you had even watched any of it prior to 2012. Your sole interest in this thread before you typed a word was "muh lebron" "muh kobe"

Get your fat bitch ass back to work, Windhorst.

Gileraracer
03-30-2016, 06:22 AM
DWades career was pushed by the refs. 17 free throws / game in the 2006 finals series, where 4 games where decided by <5 points? Let's talk about rigged.

Im Still Ballin
03-30-2016, 06:28 AM
DWades career was pushed by the refs. 17 free throws / game in the 2006 finals series, where 4 games where decided by <5 points? Let's talk about rigged.
Thanks

Real14
03-30-2016, 07:48 AM
To me it's like this...

1. LeBron
2. Wade

As to being tha most overrated.

aj1987
03-30-2016, 07:57 AM
He won two being carried by LeBron (on a stacked superteam squad) and his other one with the MDE in Shaq.

He should be ranked below Pippen.
Kobe a complete scrub early on. Missed PO's during his peak. Shaped into a decent player by the MDE and the GOAT coach. Got carried by the MDE and the GOAT coach early on and was on uber stacked teams for his later rings. Extremely overrated defender and a ball hogging shot jacker.

Should be ranked below Melo, TBH.


If wade played in the pre-handcheck ban era, he would have been just another above average player.

Wade's game has always been very limited. He's a poor shooter generally and a very poor 3 point shooter. He's a poor passer. He doesn't defend other than to get out of position to go for flashy blocks or steals.

His entire game consists of being able to take people off the dribble, unstoppable since they banned handchecking, drive to the hole, flick the ball up usually not even looking at the basket or trying to score, and then looking to the refs to bail him out.
You do know that Wade made the PO's in his rookie year and hit two game winners as well, right? This was in '04, BTW.

Real14
03-30-2016, 08:03 AM
Agay1987 is a mad salty ass hater:oldlol: What have Kobe done to u?:lol

aj1987
03-30-2016, 08:15 AM
Agay1987 is a mad salty ass hater:oldlol: What have Kobe done to u?:lol
The **** is an Agay? Did you tiny brain **** up trying to type up Ajay?

How are the New York Kucks doing, Retard14?

Real14
03-30-2016, 08:18 AM
The **** is an Agay? Did you tiny brain **** up trying to type up Ajay?

How are the New York Kucks doing, Retard14?
" Did you tiny brain":biggums: :wtf: :lol

You have some damn nerve calling me dumb with a sentence like that:oldlol:

aj1987
03-30-2016, 08:22 AM
" Did you tiny brain":biggums: :wtf: :lol

You have some damn nerve calling me dumb with a sentence like that:oldlol:
I missed an alphabet. :confusedshrug:

Still better than typing "tha", instead of "the". That just screams retard.

Real14
03-30-2016, 08:27 AM
I missed an alphabet. :confusedshrug:

Still better than typing "tha", instead of "the". That just screams retard.
I been said that I only type like that for style.:rolleyes:

aj1987
03-30-2016, 08:32 AM
I been said that I only type like that for style.:rolleyes:
What?

Real14
03-30-2016, 08:44 AM
What?
"Tha" is just for style man.

Dray n Klay
03-30-2016, 08:59 AM
Wade is a cancer, every player that plays with him gets worse


Bosh before Wade: 24/11
Bosh with Wade: 16/6


Dragic before Wade: 20/5/5
Dragic after: 12/4/3 on bad efficiency


Shaq before Wade: 24/12
Shaq with Wade: 18/9




The dude destroys careers

Labissiere
03-30-2016, 09:05 AM
I think he has bee reclassified by many as a sidekick, which makes him underrated. Dude led a team to a championship.

aj1987
03-30-2016, 09:06 AM
Wade is a cancer, every player that plays with him gets worse


Bosh before Wade: 24/11
Bosh with Wade: 16/6


Dragic before Wade: 20/5/5
Dragic after: 12/4/3 on bad efficiency


Shaq before Wade: 24/12
Shaq with Wade: 18/9

The dude destroys careers
Can you do that for Shaq, Love, Irving, Wade, Big Ben, Jamison, Danny Green, and Bosh with and without LeBron?

SouBeachTalents
03-30-2016, 09:08 AM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=162578361

OP, you are a gigantic fakkit

aj1987
03-30-2016, 09:12 AM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=162578361

OP, you are a gigantic fakkit
:roll: :roll:

Jesus Christ. Have we ruled out the fact that TMZ is a bot?

PJR
03-30-2016, 09:14 AM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=162578361

OP, you are a gigantic fakkit

With this evidence, I can confirm that the OP is indeed a Fa99ot

Labissiere
03-30-2016, 09:15 AM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=162578361

OP, you are a gigantic fakkit
:roll:

Dray n Klay
03-30-2016, 09:16 AM
Can you do that for Shaq, Love, Irving, Wade, Big Ben, Jamison, Danny Green, and Bosh with and without LeBron?



What does LeBron have to do with this thread?



Rent free :roll: :roll:

Dresta
03-30-2016, 09:30 AM
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1328482#start_here

Thanks TMZ
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=162578361


This isn't some overreaction to his poor play in the playoffs, I've always hated Wade and these playoffs have just made all the issues i have with his game glaringly obvious to other people

If wade had played in the pre-handcheck ban era, and if he hadn't lucked into Pat Riley and by extension Shaq and Lebron, he's have been just another above average player

Wade's game has always been very limited. He's a poor shooter generally and a very poor 3 point shooter. He's a poor passer. He doesn't defend other than to get out of position to go for flashy blocks or steals.

His entire game consists of being able to take people off the dribble, unstoppable since they banned handchecking, drive to the hole, flick the ball up usually not even looking at the basket or trying to score, and then looking to the refs to bail him out.

Now that he's lost a step he can't take good defenders off the dribble and lo and behold he's now useless


Maybe he's been doing this shit on RealGM too?

Jasper
03-30-2016, 09:45 AM
If wade played in the pre-handcheck ban era, he would have been just another above average player.

Wade's game has always been very limited. He's a poor shooter generally and a very poor 3 point shooter. He's a poor passer. He doesn't defend other than to get out of position to go for flashy blocks or steals.

His entire game consists of being able to take people off the dribble, unstoppable since they banned handchecking, drive to the hole, flick the ball up usually not even looking at the basket or trying to score, and then looking to the refs to bail him out.
:lol :banghead: :banghead:

HOF player still playing , Dude sit back and just enjoy watching him, you'll never see him again after he retires.

Cap'n Obvious
03-30-2016, 09:59 AM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=162578361

OP, you are a gigantic fakkit
The post in that link appears to be mostly the same as the OP's post.

jrong
03-30-2016, 10:11 AM
Revisionist history at it's finest. This is why no one takes Wade Stanleys like yourself seriously.

Shaq 06 Averages:

Regular Season:

20 PPG, 9 TRB, 2 BLK on 60% FG

Playoffs:

18 PPG, 10 TRB, 2 BLK on 61% FG

Those numbers are literally on par with PRIME Gasol (you know, the player you guys like to claim was "the real MVP" of those Laker championship teams), except with even more ridiculous efficiency. :eek:

And :roll: at you saying "they wouldn't have won those championships without him". Literally the same thing can be said of Kobe's first 3 rings, you mongoloid. :lol

Wade 06 averages:

Regular Season:

27 PPG, 5 RB, 7 AST

Playoffs:

28 PPG, 6 RB, 6 AST

Thanks for playing.

It's hilarious that people detract from Wade for playing with LBJ and Shaq, when he was on teams where he was better than both (LBJ: 2011; Shaq 2004 - 2008).

The title should read "Dwyane Wade most underrated athlete in sports history."

Wade would be a GOAT candidate, at least to the extent that LeBron is, had he avoided injury. People forget he was on his way to his first Finals in 2005, up 3 - 2 on the Larry Brown coached and Ben Wallace-defensively anchored Pistons in the ECF with an injured Shaq, derailed only because he tore his abdominal near the end of Game 5.

And in 2007, he was basically putting up his 09 stats (29/5/8 through 50 games), when he tore his shoulder. Had he not gotten hurt in 05 and 07, Miami had a real chance to three-peat-- with Wade as their MVP. And maybe more-- if Wade doesn't get hurt in 07, he's healthy for 08, and maybe Shaq doesn't quit on the team and force a trade.

KobesFinger
03-30-2016, 10:18 AM
What about his post-game and rebounding?

choppermagic
03-30-2016, 10:26 AM
Revisionist history at it's finest. This is why no one takes Wade Stanleys like yourself seriously.

Shaq 06 Averages:

Regular Season:

20 PPG, 9 TRB, 2 BLK on 60% FG

Playoffs:

18 PPG, 10 TRB, 2 BLK on 61% FG

Those numbers are literally on par with PRIME Gasol (you know, the player you guys like to claim was "the real MVP" of those Laker championship teams), except with even more ridiculous efficiency. :eek:

And :roll: at you saying "they wouldn't have won those championships without him". Literally the same thing can be said of Kobe's first 3 rings, you mongoloid. :lol

fantastic point. Everyone thinks Gasol averaging only 18ppg, and a full 10 points LESS than Kobe, was somehow the FMVP due to their hate on Kobe. Gasol also crapped the bed in Boston that series.

Wade is a very good player. A Star. But he had a lot of help from the whistle and then the collusion so it puts questions into his legacy.

tomtucker
03-30-2016, 10:34 AM
Dwyane Wade is a great player.......underrated by most, but loved by true fans of basketball

Labissiere
03-30-2016, 10:39 AM
fantastic point. Everyone thinks Gasol averaging only 18ppg, and a full 10 points LESS than Kobe, was somehow the FMVP due to their hate on Kobe. Gasol also crapped the bed in Boston that series.

Wade is a very good player. A Star. But he had a lot of help from the whistle and then the collusion so it puts questions into his legacy.
And Kobe fans think scoring is all that matters, no matter what the efficiency.

choppermagic
03-30-2016, 10:45 AM
And Kobe fans think scoring is all that matters, no matter what the efficiency.

LOL, nice try.

No, actually winning matters. 5 rings. And pulled out that Game 7 to beat the rivals Celtics.

And Kobe grabbed 15 rebounds in game 7, a game decided by REBOUNDS!

Gasol only shot 48% for the entire series. Hardly commendable for a 7 foot post player.

So in terms of scoring, rebounding, leadership and winning, I guess Kobe proved that all.

Only Lebron stans like you take efficiency over all other stats, including winning, because that's all you have LOL

greatest-ever
03-30-2016, 10:51 AM
Wade a poor passer?..:wtf:

TYCRO
03-30-2016, 11:31 AM
Think of it this way: If Wade didn't get favorable treatment and won, then we wouldn't have had the motivated Dirk that embarrassed LeBron in 2011. Makes it worth it in the end.

oti
03-30-2016, 11:37 AM
The amount of hate Wade gets on this board will be out of control when Miami knocks the Cavs out in the playoffs. My god. Suicide watch.

aquaadverse
03-30-2016, 11:37 AM
Think of it this way: If Wade didn't get favorable treatment and won, then we wouldn't have had the motivated Dirk that embarrassed LeBron in 2011. Makes it worth it in the end.

Lol. He lost to the 8th seed as the 1st seed the next year.

TYCRO
03-30-2016, 11:42 AM
Wade a poor passer?..:wtf:
Yeah, Wade has always been fine as a passer.

TYCRO
03-30-2016, 11:43 AM
Lol. He lost to the 8th seed as the 1st seed the next year.
K. To a coach who knew his game inside and out.

Wade's Rings
03-30-2016, 12:14 PM
It's funny how Free Throws are only brought up for Wade. Kobe has a series where he shot 96 Free Throws, another where he averaged 15 per Game vs the Kings in '01. Bron has a series where he shot 94 Free Throws. Dirk had a 2 game stretch during the '06 Playoffs where he shot 39 total Free Throws, he averaged 1 less FTA than Wade during that entire run. No one ever brings up Free Throws for those performances but when it's Wade that's the 1st thing mentioned to bring down his performances. :oldlol:

ShawkFactory
03-30-2016, 12:36 PM
I notice OP never comments in his own threads or backs his statements up in any way.

Though to be fair most of his statements aren't his.

Wade's Rings
03-30-2016, 12:41 PM
I notice OP never comments in his own threads or backs hisnstatementsbuo in any way.

Though to be fair most of his statements aren't his.

I was going to say this but just decided against it. He'll post something troll-like, like this thread and completely avoid it afterwards.

Bankaii
03-30-2016, 01:07 PM
Revisionist history at it's finest. This is why no one takes Wade Stanleys like yourself seriously.

Shaq 06 Averages:

Regular Season:

20 PPG, 9 TRB, 2 BLK on 60% FG

Playoffs:

18 PPG, 10 TRB, 2 BLK on 61% FG

Those numbers are literally on par with PRIME Gasol (you know, the player you guys like to claim was "the real MVP" of those Laker championship teams), except with even more ridiculous efficiency. :eek:
A Kobetard leaving out Finals stats to support his agenda.:oldlol:

The Finals are Kobe's worst enemy.