Cavaliers are now 4-13 without LeBron since his return to Cleveland

[scuzzy]

But what do you expect? :confusedshrug:

The fact that LBJ has so much influence on whether or not teams win is pretty significant.

Kevin Love was the Captain and face of one of the least clutch teams ever in the 2014 TWolves. They lost something like 90% of all games within a basket.

Kyrie has never NOT gotten a top 4 pick for his team as the best player. Add to the fact that they both are defensively horrid and they refuse to adjust to their strengths when Bron is out

I'm genuinely amazed they're not 0-17

[Real14]

Cavs are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) in tha finals with lebron.

[Akrazotile]

Honestly? Lebron probably should have sat out last year. Get some needed rest and let Love and Kyrie combine their powers of losing to earn a #1 lottery pick. Select Towns, then trade Irving and Love for better players, and be ready to roll with a decent supporting cast.

Dude's potentially wasting some beautiful years of his prime with this shit.

[scuzzy]

Honestly? Lebron probably should have sat out last year. Get some needed rest and let Love and Kyrie combine their powers of losing to earn a #1 lottery pick. Select Towns, then trade Irving and Love for better players, and be ready to roll with a decent supporting cast.

Dude's potentially wasting some beautiful years of his prime with this shit.


Agreed, gives us an idea of how 2005-2007 Lakers fans feel (the roster/kobe prime) minus the part abt losing in the first round and missing playofs

[SchrOEder]

yea, its obvious that the cavs are barely a playoff team without lebron.

especially love is shrinking without lebron. if the defensive attention is focused on lebron, kyrie and love have it much easier.

if love and kyrie dont step up, the cavs wont come out of the east

love is statpadding his defensive rebounds. he is battling with his own teamm8s for the defensive rebound.

[scuzzy]

yea, its obvious that the cavs are barely a playoff team without lebron.

especially love is shrinking without lebron. if the defensive attention is focused on lebron, kyrie and love have it much easier.

if love and kyrie dont step up, the cavs wont come out of the east

love is statpadding his defensive rebounds. he is battling with his own teamm8s for the defensive rebound.


it will be a miracle

[Dray n Klay]

There's no team LeBrons been on that would make the playoffs without him


Kobe wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round with any of LeBrons teams

[Lebron23]

How many games LeBron missed this season?

[SouBeachTalents]

Cavs are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) in tha finals with lebron.

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo

[SouBeachTalents]

There's no team LeBrons been on that would make the playoffs without him


Kobe wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round with any of LeBrons teams

'11 Heat
'12 Heat
'13 Heat

All indisputable

[Labissiere]

It isn't like many teams where they are just down their best player. They are down the guy their entire offense is built around. Of course their record is bad when he is gone.

[Papaya Petee]

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo
:roll: don't know whats a bigger joke the Knicks franchise or him.

[Labissiere]

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo
:roll:

[scuzzy]

It isn't like many teams where they are just down their best player. They are down the guy their entire offense is built around. Of course their record is bad when he is gone.


Kyrie/Love were the focal point of the 13-14 Cavs/Wolves, yet were just as bad with them ON the court:confusedshrug:

[scuzzy]

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo
:lol :lol

[choppermagic]

'11 Heat
'12 Heat
'13 Heat

All indisputable

especially in the weak East, no way MIA with Kobe gets bounced in the first round. That guy doesn't know basketball.

[Gileraracer]

The fact that lebron hand picked every one of his teams and filled them with superstars in their prime and still keeps on loosing is just shameful :(

[Real14]

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo
Are you a heat fan or a Bron stan?:biggums:

Anyway once again...

Knicks lead heat in playoff match ups 3-2
Knicks accomplished those wins in 3 straight years too.

[G0ATbe]

LeBalds finals record is about the same win %, and after this upcoming one will be worse:applause:

[Real14]

:roll: don't know whats a bigger joke the Knicks franchise or him.
Your pops for nuttin inside your fat momma to make u:lol

[Real14]

'11 Heat
'12 Heat
'13 Heat

All indisputable

14 heat and 15 cavs too.

[SouBeachTalents]

Are you a heat fan or a Bron stan?:biggums:

Anyway once again...

Knicks lead heat in playoff match ups 3-2
Knicks accomplished those wins in 3 straight years too.

Heat lead Knicks in titles 3-2, and won more titles in a span of 8 years than the Knicks have in 60

[k0kakw0rld]

yea, its obvious that the cavs are barely a playoff team without lebron.

especially love is shrinking without lebron. if the defensive attention is focused on lebron, kyrie and love have it much easier.

if love and kyrie dont step up, the cavs wont come out of the east

love is statpadding his defensive rebounds. he is battling with his own teamm8s for the defensive rebound.
Same story every year and he will still lead them to the final. Please stop :facepalm

[Real14]

Heat lead Knicks in titles 3-2, and won more titles in a span of 8 years than the Knicks have in 60
Knicks- 2 rings
Heat - 3 asterisks (undeserved rings)

[Legends66NBA7]

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo

They have already been eliminated.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn6v8Sp75OM

Fan don't care, though.

[r15mohd]

Knicks- 2 rings
Heat - 3 asterisks (undeserved rings)

:rolleyes:

authorized in full without any of said remarks above by the NBA, and every other leading bball outlet - your drawn up, and pointless thought process, doesnt mean $hit!!!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/51/d2/f1/51d2f11346ff5cc2219ce40a8468b3ff.jpg
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/22-3s083-heat2-300x300.jpg?quality=100&strip=all&w=300&h=299&crop=1
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/alwa5V4m0gyEIW-X72n6epDGv68eysn-bjctIg1-xNGbhCLohQpmus3XrMPY5D16TQVjGZyVtguQKEqMQRxBL5A_9w pBlKPTu0lZCXEreej02Orc3OUNtkTlM-Fc7b5Rqw

go worry about Melo overtuning that no trade clause and rolling back into even further failure

also, Fake14 on the left before Lebron signed with Miami :D fa99ot is still upset he didn't choose that loser franchise
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/11/06/sports/06lebron_CA0/articleLarge.jpg

[scuzzy]

:rolleyes:

authorized in full without any of said remarks above by the NBA, and every other leading bball outlet - your drawn up, and pointless thought process, doesnt mean $hit!!!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/51/d2/f1/51d2f11346ff5cc2219ce40a8468b3ff.jpg
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/22-3s083-heat2-300x300.jpg?quality=100&strip=all&w=300&h=299&crop=1
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/alwa5V4m0gyEIW-X72n6epDGv68eysn-bjctIg1-xNGbhCLohQpmus3XrMPY5D16TQVjGZyVtguQKEqMQRxBL5A_9w pBlKPTu0lZCXEreej02Orc3OUNtkTlM-Fc7b5Rqw

go worry about Melo overtuning that no trade clause and rolling back into even further failure

also, Fake14 on the left before Lebron signed with Miami :D fa99ot is still upset he didn't choose that loser franchise
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/11/06/sports/06lebron_CA0/articleLarge.jpg:roll: :roll: :cheers:

[GrapeApe]

There's no team LeBrons been on that would make the playoffs without him


Kobe wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round with any of LeBrons teams

The Heat made the playoffs in consecutive seasons before Lebron got to Miami. In 2011 and 2012, a Wade/Bosh led team would have been title contenders, especially with the extra cap space.

I think it's also fair to say that the Heat would get past the first round every year from 2011-2014 with Kobe instead of Lebron (assuming no achilles tear).

[coin24]

Looks more like brans finals record