New policy requiring 20 hours of work or volunteering to qualify for food stamps.

[UK2K]

Facebook poll on Fox News say 95% of people voted in favor of the idea out of ~51,000 votes.

The new policy goes into effect in Mississippi, which has the second highest percentage of food stamps recipients in the country.

What does ISH think?

Me personally, I like the idea, as long as you can be medically exempt and if you do have children, they are able to stay with a spouse or immediate family member.

[Akrazotile]

Ive never understood why this hasnt been in place all along.

I dont oppose social assistance for those who NEED it and are TRYING to get by.

But when you just hand it out with no requirements, of course its gonna get absolutely abused to hell, which it always has been. I dont even blame the people who take it, I blame the policy for being easily defrauded.

If youre in between jobs and need to use the safety net, fine. But do SOMETHING productive, cant just sit at home smoking weed all day and collect.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Yep. No more(less at least) Obama free rides. Back to the old Clinton/Gingrich era entitlement requirements.

But what about those 6 million, grossly obese starving children that go to bed hungry every night? :confusedshrug:

[Duderonomy]

I'm not sure what food stamps cover but it should only cover real food like apples, bananas, free beans , etc. Not mountain dew , energy drinks or Cheetos.:facepalm

[IcanzIIravor]

Facebook poll on Fox News say 95% of people voted in favor of the idea out of ~51,000 votes.

The new policy goes into effect in Mississippi, which has the second highest percentage of food stamps recipients in the country.

What does ISH think?

Me personally, I like the idea, as long as you can be medically exempt and if you do have children, they are able to stay with a spouse or immediate family member.

I'm okay with that if there is some program in place to subsidize daycare for underage kids and places for other young kids to go too. No point in making these mandatory rules if there isn't something like this since the majority of these women are single parents. Needs to also be greater emphasis and resources going after the dead beat dads, which help facilitate these women being on welfare and other assistance.

[Edgar Friendly]

I'm okay with that if there is some program in place to subsidize daycare for underage kids and places for other young kids to go too. No point in making these mandatory rules if there isn't something like this since the majority of these women are single parents. Needs to also be greater emphasis and resources going after the dead beat dads, which help facilitate these women being on welfare and other assistance.

Beating the ole it's everybody's fault but the b!tch who can't keep her legs closed drum eh?

[IcanzIIravor]

Beating the ole it's everybody's fault but the b!tch who can't keep her legs closed drum eh?

I know on a site like this you think it makes you cool to post like that, but how about we keep things grounded in reality. Regardless of the reason for these women having kids in order to have a chance to break the cycle certain realities need to be acknowledged and what I talked about is among them. Now you can beat your chest and call them names, but how does that resolve this issue?

[stalkerforlife]

If people on food stamps could work and not have them, they'd do it.

Dumb idea.

Crime is about to go up when people get hungry.

[Edgar Friendly]

I know on a site like this you think it makes you cool to post like that, but how about we keep things grounded in reality. Regardless of the reason for these women having kids in order to have a chance to break the cycle certain realities need to be acknowledged and what I talked about is among them. Now you can beat your chest and call them names, but how does that resolve this issue?

Simple action and consequence for mother and father. Remove the consequence, or even worse, add reward, action never gets addressed.

[Im Still Ballin]

If people on food stamps could work and not have them, they'd do it.

Dumb idea.

Crime is about to go up when people get hungry.
Simon Says:

[kurple]

If people on food stamps could work and not have them, they'd do it.

Dumb idea.

Crime is about to go up when people get hungry.
It not too hard to find places to do volunteer work.. Its just that lots of people think they are above washing dishes or whatever and wants to make money quick

[stalkerforlife]

It not too hard to find places to do volunteer work.. Its just that lots of people think they are above washing dishes or whatever and wants to make money quick

No.

A lot of people simply can't function properly.

If you're on food stamps, there is something wrong with you...even if you put on a front and act like there isn't.

No one wants to be on food stamps.

[IcanzIIravor]

If people on food stamps could work and not have them, they'd do it.

Dumb idea.

Crime is about to go up when people get hungry.

I doubt crimes will go up, but I think there will be a lot of women who will fail the requirements, if there aren't things like vouchers for daycare and rides to work aren't built into it. I think alongside volunteering and working certain jobs there can be mandatory training in a host of job types needed for the areas in which these people live in financed by the county, state and feds. I am also okay with restricting what can be bought with the money loaded onto welfare cards.

In the end there needs to be greater incentive to get people to get off welfare. Right now it is more throwing money at the issue and hoping it dies down long enough for whoever is in office to make it to the next level in government or make enough connections to go into the private sector and make bank.

[UK2K]

If people on food stamps could work and not have them, they'd do it.

Dumb idea.

Crime is about to go up when people get hungry.

It worked when Clinton did it, it worked when Maine did it, I have a feeling it will work in MS too.

[QUOTE]http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2016/02/maine-food-stamp-work-requirement-cuts-non-parent-caseload-by-80-percent

In response to the growth in food stamp dependence, [B]Maine

[UK2K]

I doubt crimes will go up, but I think there will be a lot of women who will fail the requirements, if there aren't things like vouchers for daycare and rides to work aren't built into it. I think alongside volunteering and working certain jobs there can be mandatory training in a host of job types needed for the areas in which these people live in financed by the county, state and feds. I am also okay with restricting what can be bought with the money loaded onto welfare cards.

In the end there needs to be greater incentive to get people to get off welfare. Right now it is more throwing money at the issue and hoping it dies down long enough for whoever is in office to make it to the next level in government or make enough connections to go into the private sector and make bank.
You don't need to go anywhere to volunteer. Walk outside and start picking up trash.

Let your local county office you are going to do it for your 20 hours a week, and I'm sure they'll be just fine with it.

[IcanzIIravor]

You don't need to go anywhere to volunteer. Walk outside and start picking up trash.

Let your local county office you are going to do it for your 20 hours a week, and I'm sure they'll be just fine with it.

Nah, these people need structure and rules in the beginning. In many cases it seems to me akin to a lot of the people who first join the military. You need to be broken down to a degree and built back up to gain the belief in yourself and then you can break the cycle. Track people, make them check in at places, go places, get training and we can begin to chip at the issue affecting the inner city and rural communities.

[ALBballer]

I dont think it's the worst idea and atleast it's a start to fix the issue.

If people need food stamps they should provide some service to society assuming they are physically able to work. In addition it would weed out those that really need food stamps to survive and those that are scamming the system by working cash paying jobs and getting benefits on the side.

But before we start taking welfare away from poor citizens and I assume many do need the benefits we need to address corporate welfare first.

[ALBballer]

Nah, these people need structure and rules in the beginning. In many cases it seems to me akin to a lot of the people who first join the military. You need to be broken down to a degree and built back up to gain the belief in yourself and then you can break the cycle. Track people, make them check in at places, go places, get training and we can begin to chip at the issue affecting the inner city and rural communities.

What if people refuse to do work ? They show up but sit down all day. You would need to set a system in place to hold people accountable.

But other than that I do agree. Some people could use a sense of purpose in their lives.

[IcanzIIravor]

What if people refuse to do work ? They show up but sit down all day. You would need to set a system in place to hold people accountable.

But other than that I do agree. Some people could use a sense of purpose in their lives.

This is why I'd rather politicians not try a quick fix in an election year to grab votes. You need something detailed and comprehensive from the ground up that accounts for various situations and scenarios.

[CP3PO]

If you are trying to get a job, that should qualify you.

[UK2K]

I dont think it's the worst idea and atleast it's a start to fix the issue.

If people need food stamps they should provide some service to society assuming they are physically able to work. In addition it would weed out those that really need food stamps to survive and those that are scamming the system by working cash paying jobs and getting benefits on the side.

But before we start taking welfare away from poor citizens and I assume many do need the benefits we need to address corporate welfare first.

Need to address both really. There's too much waste in government as it is.

Which is why I am shocked to hear anyone suggest giving more money to the government is ever a good idea.

[ALBballer]

Need to address both really. There's too much waste in government as it is.

Which is why I am shocked to hear anyone suggest giving more money to the government is ever a good idea.

I agree but before we start targeting low income families we can start by reducing defense spending and then limiting corporate welfare amongst other areas.

Once the government starts addressing these other areas they would have an easier time limiting social programs.

But in reality politicians won't do anything because we are too dependent on government money and there are too many votes to be lost by slashing programs and it's easier to promise free shit we can't afford.

[stalkerforlife]

I doubt crimes will go up, but I think there will be a lot of women who will fail the requirements, if there aren't things like vouchers for daycare and rides to work aren't built into it. I think alongside volunteering and working certain jobs there can be mandatory training in a host of job types needed for the areas in which these people live in financed by the county, state and feds. I am also okay with restricting what can be bought with the money loaded onto welfare cards.

In the end there needs to be greater incentive to get people to get off welfare. Right now it is more throwing money at the issue and hoping it dies down long enough for whoever is in office to make it to the next level in government or make enough connections to go into the private sector and make bank.

That's your problem...you think a lot and still have no clue as to what you're talking about.

Crime rates will go up if you take away food from people and they have no other way to get it.

As a matter of fact, I hope some of you proponents of taking away food assistance become victims of the hungry. It'll serve your dumb asses right.

[UK2K]

That's your problem...you think a lot and still have no clue as to what you're talking about.

Crime rates will go up if you take away food from people and they have no other way to get it.

As a matter of fact, I hope some of you proponents of taking away food assistance become victims of the hungry. It'll serve your dumb asses right.
Having to work/volunteer =/= no way to get food stamps.

The ones who are exempt for whatever reason will still get theirs. Everyone who is able will need to work to earn theirs.

Saying 'we have to give people food stamps or they'll rob us' isn't justification for why you have to give food stamps to people who aren't willing to work for it.

Plus, the work/volunteer time not only teaches life skills, it teaches job skills as well.

And as an FYI, this proponent of this program is also a proponent of second amendment rights, so if someone feels the desire to rob me, good luck.

[greymatter]

I'm not sure what food stamps cover but it should only cover real food like apples, bananas, free beans , etc. Not mountain dew , energy drinks or Cheetos.:facepalm

The problem is that junk food is cheap. It's expensive to eat healthy.

[UK2K]

The problem is that junk food is cheap. It's expensive to eat healthy.
That's why the food stamps should be redeemable for food..

Not a blank check to go in and buy whatever your heart desires.

[97 bulls]

I think it's a great idea. Not sure why all states haven't done some form of this already.

[Euroleague]

Facebook poll on Fox News say 95% of people voted in favor of the idea out of ~51,000 votes.

The new policy goes into effect in Mississippi, which has the second highest percentage of food stamps recipients in the country.

What does ISH think?

Me personally, I like the idea, as long as you can be medically exempt and if you do have children, they are able to stay with a spouse or immediate family member.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/jlHF3tVYRwXqU/200.gif

Seriously, this is the off the court lounge forum, not the biggest creep asshole of the year contest forum.

[Akrazotile]

That's your problem...you think a lot and still have no clue as to what you're talking about.

Crime rates will go up if you take away food from people and they have no other way to get it.

As a matter of fact, I hope some of you proponents of taking away food assistance become victims of the hungry. It'll serve your dumb asses right.


You melodramatic bum. Get a job you scrub.

[embersyc]

I don't care either way, but I bet you this policy will actually cost the state more money, since you will need to staff people will need to verify that 20 hours has been worked/volunteered. You will need to make transportation/child care available to some people so that they can. Then you need to worry about jobs for the physically/mentally handicapped. Sounds like a logistics nightmare for the state.

[Akrazotile]

I don't care either way, but I bet you this policy will actually cost the state more money, since you will need to staff people will need to verify that 20 hours has been worked/volunteered. You will need to make transportation/child care available to some people so that they can. Then you need to worry about jobs for the physically/mentally handicapped. Sounds like a logistics nightmare for the state.



Dude most people will just go and get jobs, instead of volunteerinrg in exchange for foodstamps. That's the point of it.
It will reduce the number of people getting free money.

The hope is theyre not gonna need much administration for this thing bc hopefully people wont bother with it.

[97 bulls]

Dude most people will just go and get jobs, instead of volunteerinrg in exchange for foodstamps. That's the point of it.
It will reduce the number of people getting free money.

The hope is theyre not gonna need much administration for this thing bc hopefully people wont bother with it.
People want to work bro. Please stop it.

[Akrazotile]

People want to work bro. Please stop it.


Uhh, a lot of people dont. Look at stalker. Look at that NFL player who was telling his baby mama to get food stamps.

There are tons of people who abuse welfare programs unnecessarily. Ive had them for roommates when I lived in LA. Theyre everywhere.

Why are you so interested in denying it?

[stalkerforlife]

You melodramatic bum. Get a job you scrub.

But you don't have a job. :biggums:

[stalkerforlife]

Uhh, a lot of people dont. Look at stalker. Look at that NFL player who was telling his baby mama to get food stamps.

There are tons of people who abuse welfare programs unnecessarily. Ive had them for roommates when I lived in LA. Theyre everywhere.

Why are you so interested in denying it?

Because no one has aspirations or dreams of being on welfare.

No one.

Disenfranchisement, depression, anxiety, inability to function properly, etc...these are all real things.

You should know, neck beard.

[Akrazotile]

Because no one has aspirations or dreams of being on welfare.

No one.

Disenfranchisement, depression, anxiety, inability to function properly, etc...these are all real things.

You should know, neck beard.


It's amazing how quickly these issues balloon in first-world societies that tolerate them as reasons not to work.

Try living in a village threatened by famine and telling them you don't feel like doing your daily chores because you have acne.

Try being an immigrant somewhere who isn't eligible for support and has kids to provide for. Amazing how the excuses disappear.


"But but but, but, but I have a small dick! I need social security!"


GTFO. You brag about "living like a boss" because of the welfare you collect. You are a bum. And your kids are gonna see their scrub dad lying on the couch all day on monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, and think that's what a man is supposed to do. That's the worst part.

[stalkerforlife]

It's amazing how quickly these issues balloon in first-world societies that tolerate them as reasons not to work.

Try living in a village threatened by famine and telling them you don't feel like doing your daily chores because you have acne.

Try being an immigrant somewhere who isn't eligible for support and has kids to provide for. Amazing how the excuses disappear.


"But but but, but, but I have a small dick! I need social security!"


GTFO. You brag about "living like a boss" because of the welfare you collect. You are a bum. And your kids are gonna see their scrub dad lying on the couch all day on monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, and think that's what a man is supposed to do. That's the worst part.

I don't do that. I take them to the museum, I play with them, I read to them, I go to school, I teach them, I keep the house clean, I make them food, I take them to Disney World, etc, etc, etc.

You live off your parents and you don't work. You make me laugh, neck beard. :lol

[Akrazotile]

But you don't have a job. :biggums:


Except, I'm working.

I'm working on building a business from the ground up. I'm working on a novel about my experience doing medical trials. And I'm still DOING medical trials.

You dondu nuffin.

[Akrazotile]

I don't do that. I take them to the museum, I play with them, I read to them, I go to school, etc.



Fair enough brah. I guess being a stay at home dad is at least better than being an absentee dad.

[ALBballer]

People want to work bro. Please stop it.

Even if we assume the majority of the people want to work why would some of them work when they can get just as much money in benefits by either not working at all or working reduced hours. There are even schemes where low-income families do not get legally married because it could effect the amount of social welfare they get.

I don't blame anyone for taking advantage of any loopholes. If a government program existed where there was an incentive for me not to work and I could still make the same amount of money I probably would take advantage of it.

I don't believe in demonization of the poor the right partakes in but I don't believe the government should incentivize families to be on social welfare programs. There are multi-generation families that have been on welfare and welfare should be a temporary safety net not a way of living.

But in the end taking away benefits is not a politically popular choice and politicians would rather promise things then take them away.

[stalkerforlife]

Except, I'm working.

I'm working on building a business from the ground up. I'm working on a novel about my experience doing medical trials. And I'm still DOING medical trials.

You dondu nuffin.

You don't work.

You are a liar.

:lol

[stalkerforlife]

Anyhow, this is all complete BS...government bailouts of banks and the auto industry, space research funding, starting wars for control of oil, politicians handing government jobs to friends, etc.

Please.

The rich corporations and politicians are a much bigger problem.

[stalkerforlife]

Except, I'm working.

I'm working on building a business from the ground up. I'm working on a novel about my experience doing medical trials. And I'm still DOING medical trials.

You dondu nuffin.

Why are you doing medical trials?

I give plasma and save lives, bro. I'm a hero.

[Akrazotile]

Anyhow, this is all complete BS...government bailouts of banks and the auto industry, space research funding, starting wars for control of oil, politicians handing government jobs to friends, etc.

Please.

The rich corporations and politicians are a much bigger problem.


Your girl Hillary supports all of these.

[stalkerforlife]

Your girl Hillary supports all of these.

I don't know if she does or doesn't.

But I do know democrats care more about the poor than republicans.

[ALBballer]

I don't know if she does or doesn't.

But I do know democrats care more about the poor than republicans.

They don't care for you..... they look at you as a potential voter.

Democrats promise you free shit and you vote for them in return.

[Akrazotile]

I don't know if she does or doesn't.

But I do know democrats care more about the poor than republicans.


Except red states give a greater share of their income to charity (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/giving-back-_n_3781505.html)


I think where you're confusing the issue is that blue states love to talk the talk. They trumpet charity and diversity, but actually don't practice it at all. The white liberals all live comfortably and segregated from the poor blacks. But they loudly and obnoxiously PRETEND to care. And they'll reign down soapbox hell fire on you if you dare use the word 'n1gger' in private conversation. Because obviously they have their priorities in place.

They need to feel superior about themselves somehow, and since they have nothing to brag about in PRACTICE, they just make up a bunch of claims to ethical preeminence.

It's called 'posing.'

[stalkerforlife]

Except red states give a greater share of their income to charity (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/giving-back-_n_3781505.html)


I think where you're confusing the issue is that blue states love to talk the talk. They trumpet charity and diversity, but actually don't practice it at all. The white liberals all live comfortably and segregated from the poor blacks. But they loudly and obnoxiously PRETEND to care. And they'll reign down soapbox hell fire on you if you dare use the word 'n1gger' in private conversation. Because obviously they have their priorities in place.

They need to feel superior about themselves somehow, and since they have nothing to brag about in PRACTICE, they just make up a bunch of claims to ethical preeminence.

It's called 'posing.'

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasavchuk/2014/07/09/are-americas-richest-families-republicans-or-democrats/#2682ddc4717e

Republicans give more because they have more.

And of course they have more money...they're in a secret society designed to keep themselves on top of the food chain.

[Dray n Klay]

If you collect cheques from the government, I can't consider you human.


How do you look at yourself in the mirror everyday and realize you're a parasite to society?

[Akrazotile]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasavchuk/2014/07/09/are-americas-richest-families-republicans-or-democrats/#2682ddc4717e

Republicans give more because they have more.

And of course they have more money...they're in a secret society designed to keep themselves on top of the food chain.


Red states dude. Poor, red, bible belt states. That's who gives the greatest percentage of their income to charity.

Rich Republicans live in New York, California, Florida.

And even STILL... poor red states do the most for the poor as a percentage of their own means.

But youre right about one thing. Rich people would rather you be on welfare and complacent, while poor immigrants who dont speak the language and dont know the law and government structure do the work. When English-fluent, native citizens work they tend to demand more and more for their efforts. People on welfare take what's given bc its free, and mexican immigrants work for peanuts bc theres no choice. It's actually far more cost effective than dealing with unions.

The people who pad the pockets of Democratic politicians definitely dont want you workin. They want you at home twiddling your thumbs, and fresh waves of illegal immigrants working. The last thing they want is for the American working man to get a little more ambitious.

[stalkerforlife]

If you collect cheques from the government, I can't consider you human.


How do you look at yourself in the mirror everyday and realize you're a parasite to society?

You don't have a job unless Jeff is paying you to have 20 alts.

:lol

[stalkerforlife]

Red states dude. Poor, red, bible belt states. That's who gives the greatest percentage of their income to charity.

Rich Republicans live in New York, California, Florida.

And even STILL... poor red states do the most for the poor as a percentage of their own means.

But youre right about one thing. Rich people would rather you be on welfare and complacent, while poor immigrants who dont speak the language and dont know the law and government structure do the work. When English-fluent, native citizens work they tend to demand more and more for their efforts. People on welfare take what's given bc its free, and mexican immigrants work for peanuts bc theres no choice. It's actually far more cost effective than dealing with unions.

The people who pad the pockets of Democratic politicians definitely dont want you workin. The last thing they want is for the American working man to get a little more ambitious.

Tithing.

[Dray n Klay]

You don't have a job unless Jeff is paying you to have 20 alts.

:lol


You're taking this way too far man. I've been hustling since I was 14 to become financially secure. Stop talking down to me like being a baggage boy is remotely close to selling t-shirts out of my trunk, or mowing lawns, or having a car detailing business with my friends. Or affiliate marketing. Or making a killing on stocks(buy now idiot, its a bear market) or running a health food store or co-running a pedal business.

I'm a millionare you ****ing idiot. NOt because of my parents, BUT ME. And my hard, gritty, passionate work. Shut the **** up you have no idea what you're saying.

This isn't about my personal accomplishments. Stop making this about my superiority you insecure defensive little bitch.

[stalkerforlife]

You're taking this way too far man. I've been hustling since I was 14 to become financially secure. Stop talking down to me like being a baggage boy is remotely close to selling t-shirts out of my trunk, or mowing lawns, or having a car detailing business with my friends. Or affiliate marketing. Or making a killing on stocks(buy now idiot, its a bear market) or running a health food store or co-running a pedal business.

I'm a millionare you ****ing idiot. NOt because of my parents, BUT ME. And my hard, gritty, passionate work. Shut the **** up you have no idea what you're saying.

This isn't about my personal accomplishments. Stop making this about my superiority you insecure defensive little bitch.

:roll:

You're entertaining, Simon.

[97 bulls]

Uhh, a lot of people dont. Look at stalker. Look at that NFL player who was telling his baby mama to get food stamps.

There are tons of people who abuse welfare programs unnecessarily. Ive had them for roommates when I lived in LA. Theyre everywhere.

Why are you so interested in denying it?
The NFL player works. I'm not familiar with who stalker is.

The way I see it is that welfare is generally for people that have made bad decisions in their life. Decisions that aren't necessarily irreversible but extremely hard. Welfare is used as a stipend, and before you know it, your stuck. I don't think people are on welfare because they simply don't want to work. Hell most of the people I know that use welfare, do work. They just don't make much money from the work.

[Smoke117]

Good...make this bitch Stalker actually have to do something but eat his fat ass to death and post shitty threads.

[stalkerforlife]

Good...make this bitch Stalker actually have to do something but eat his fat ass to death and post shitty threads.

You don't work and you live with your Mom.

[Smoke117]

You don't work and you live with your Mom.

When are you going to get drunk again and make an embarrassing and cringeworthy video for us to laugh AT? You're one of those losers that thinks people are laughing with you...no bro...were laughing at you because you are so pathetic.

[stalkerforlife]

When are you going to get drunk again and make an embarrassing and cringeworthy video for us to laugh AT? You're one of those losers that thinks people are laughing with you...no bro...were laughing at you because you are so pathetic.

But you don't work and you live with your Mom.

And I wasn't drunk.

You, though, are an admitted alcoholic that has severed all your relationships and potential.

[UK2K]

People want to work bro. Please stop it.

If they want to work, they should have no issue volunteering their time.

Or.... do they not want to work?

[Smoke117]

But you don't work and you live with your Mom.

And I wasn't drunk.

You, though, are an admitted alcoholic that has severed all your relationships and potential.

I actually make a fine living and have my own place because I actually went to college and got a degree and didn't drop out of 9th grade because of my acne. (boo hoo) You are the one stuck on welfare who needed a 300 lb whale to get with you to get laid. Now you got two mongoloid kids who are destined for the same...because what could they possibly learn from being raised by two hippos like you and your gf? Wait...she's destined to eventually dump you and take those kids away...I suppose you'll go back to making out with and sucking off dudes then.

[stalkerforlife]

I actually make a fine living and have my own place because I actually went to college and got a degree and didn't drop out of 9th grade because of my acne. (boo hoo) You are the one stuck on welfare who needed a 300 lb whale to get with him to get laid. Now you got two mongoloid kids who are destined for the same...because what could they possibly learn from being raised by two hippos like you and your gf? Wait...she's destined to eventually dump you and take those kids away...I suppose you'll go back to making out with and sucking off dudes then.

You're lying. :lol

[Kblaze8855]

If people on food stamps could work and not have them, they'd do it.


That is just factually incorrect. People get food stamps because they can. I had a woman at work turn down a new position making more money because she would lose more in food stamps than gain with the raise. Ive known multiple people on food stamps just because. Maybe file it emergency and claim to be homeless. Get them quick with no review and just have to go do the meeting later. Free food for 6 months or so. There are still stores near here you can buy liquor with food stamps indirectly. You just buy an equal value in food and swap it out....

I know people selling weed out their moms house on food stamps. They have money....live with their parents...have food stamps just because. They use that shit to have cookouts.

Food stamps are among the most abused programs in history. Probably the very most.

Way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people have them than need them. I came up as poor as ill accept any American here ever was....my mom wouldnt get food stamps on general principle. Ive had to feed a family on 4 bucks. Its not costly to make a big pot of dirty rice(rice, sausage, an old onion, and a can of whatever will do it).

Food stamps for the most part let people eat better(Or worse depending on how you look at it). But a huge number of people with them dont need them at all. I know a 300 pound aspiring rapper on food stamps and living with his mom(who has a good job) right now.


Pretty much every able bodied/mentally competent adult in America can eat enough to get by without food stamps. Its the extras that they couldnt pull off.

Half the people you talking about turning to crime would still have cell phones.

Being a poor American isnt like being poor in parts of the world where shit gets real.

You could take every penny and possession I have and make me start from scratch....id be in a new job with a rebuilt life in 3 months. Im driven to do what needs doing.

Sad to say...huge number of poor people dont have the drive to do shit about it.

Dont know how many unemployed friends of friends ive offered to get a job for....lot of broke people get in a comfort zone and see they get continue to get by without working. So why bother?

If not for the children going hungry....this would serve the greater good. As it is?

Fine. Buy the dope boys babyback ribs and let hoes flip food stamps for shoe money because they have 7 kids they can spread over their sister and mom to total 2000 a month in stamps to go with 1000 dollar section 8 vouchers...

If the kids eat im cool with it.

But dont tell me people get food stamps because they have to have them.

Most people never find out how far need is from want.

[CeltsGarlic]

I mean, it might get people back on track. A push they need.

[Akrazotile]

That is just factually incorrect. People get food stamps because they can. I had a woman at work turn down a new position making more money because she would lose more in food stamps than gain with the raise. Ive known multiple people on food stamps just because. Maybe file it emergency and claim to be homeless. Get them quick with no review and just have to go do the meeting later. Free food for 6 months or so. There are still stores near here you can buy liquor with food stamps indirectly. You just buy an equal value in food and swap it out....

I know people selling weed out their moms house on food stamps. They have money....live with their parents...have food stamps just because. They use that shit to have cookouts.

Food stamps are among the most abused programs in history. Probably the very most.

Way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people have them than need them. I came up as poor as ill accept any American here ever was....my mom wouldnt get food stamps on general principle. Ive had to feed a family on 4 bucks. Its not costly to make a big pot of dirty rice(rice, sausage, an old onion, and a can of whatever will do it).

Food stamps for the most part let people eat better(Or worse depending on how you look at it). But a huge number of people with them dont need them at all. I know a 300 pound aspiring rapper on food stamps and living with his mom(who has a good job) right now.


Pretty much every able bodied/mentally competent adult in America can eat enough to get by without food stamps. Its the extras that they couldnt pull off.

Half the people you talking about turning to crime would still have cell phones.

Being a poor American isnt like being poor in parts of the world where shit gets real.

You could take every penny and possession I have and make me start from scratch....id be in a new job with a rebuilt life in 3 months. Im driven to do what needs doing.

Sad to say...huge number of poor people dont have the drive to do shit about it.

Dont know how many unemployed friends of friends ive offered to get a job for....lot of broke people get in a comfort zone and see they get continue to get by without working. So why bother?

If not for the children going hungry....this would serve the greater good. As it is?

Fine. Buy the dope boys babyback ribs and let hoes flip food stamps for shoe money because they have 7 kids they can spread over their sister and mom to total 2000 a month in stamps to go with 1000 dollar section 8 vouchers...

If the kids eat im cool with it.

But dont tell me people get food stamps because they have to have them.

Most people never find out how far need is from want.


:applause:



I myself was very fortunate to grow up with means, however due to my own wanderings and pursuits I have spent a good deal of my adult life around lower income classes. People who are struggling but doing things the right way usually don't end up struggling for long, or at the very least ensure their kids won't struggle. That's not to say they're having a grand ol' time, but they're usually able to get to a place where they can make their way without assistance. But the simple reality is, a lot of the poor simply don't value the same things the middle and upper classes value, and their lifestyle is a result of this.

Even in high school, where kids come mostly from the same areas, you have some who work their butts off, some who do enough to get by, and some who slack, cause trouble, and don't make any effort. That's just the natural variety of humans. There are plenty of people in this country willing to milk scams and programs while living their base, uninspired lives. TONS of people like that. It's all over the place.

The denial about this is simply for the sake of fitting a narrative. "The rich have too much." It's mostly envious middle class people who play this card, not becuase they want to lift the poor up, but because they want to reign the rich IN, so that they themselves move up a little bit close to the top. But they guise it in a phony, self-righteous concern for all those 'innocent people who just can't catch a break no matter how hard they try'

It's great to want to help the poor. But the only ones you can really help OUT of poverty are the ones who want to help themselves, which is not an overwhelming percentage. For everyone else, giving them money is simply giving them complacence. Democrats are either too dumb to realize this or too nefarious to acknowledge it.

[stalkerforlife]

That is just factually incorrect. People get food stamps because they can. I had a woman at work turn down a new position making more money because she would lose more in food stamps than gain with the raise. Ive known multiple people on food stamps just because. Maybe file it emergency and claim to be homeless. Get them quick with no review and just have to go do the meeting later. Free food for 6 months or so. There are still stores near here you can buy liquor with food stamps indirectly. You just buy an equal value in food and swap it out....

I know people selling weed out their moms house on food stamps. They have money....live with their parents...have food stamps just because. They use that shit to have cookouts.

Food stamps are among the most abused programs in history. Probably the very most.

Way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people have them than need them. I came up as poor as ill accept any American here ever was....my mom wouldnt get food stamps on general principle. Ive had to feed a family on 4 bucks. Its not costly to make a big pot of dirty rice(rice, sausage, an old onion, and a can of whatever will do it).

Food stamps for the most part let people eat better(Or worse depending on how you look at it). But a huge number of people with them dont need them at all. I know a 300 pound aspiring rapper on food stamps and living with his mom(who has a good job) right now.


Pretty much every able bodied/mentally competent adult in America can eat enough to get by without food stamps. Its the extras that they couldnt pull off.

Half the people you talking about turning to crime would still have cell phones.

Being a poor American isnt like being poor in parts of the world where shit gets real.

You could take every penny and possession I have and make me start from scratch....id be in a new job with a rebuilt life in 3 months. Im driven to do what needs doing.

Sad to say...huge number of poor people dont have the drive to do shit about it.

Dont know how many unemployed friends of friends ive offered to get a job for....lot of broke people get in a comfort zone and see they get continue to get by without working. So why bother?

If not for the children going hungry....this would serve the greater good. As it is?

Fine. Buy the dope boys babyback ribs and let hoes flip food stamps for shoe money because they have 7 kids they can spread over their sister and mom to total 2000 a month in stamps to go with 1000 dollar section 8 vouchers...

If the kids eat im cool with it.

But dont tell me people get food stamps because they have to have them.

Most people never find out how far need is from want.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

You take exceptions in your tiny little world and make them a rule.

Thankfully I stopped reading after the first few lines. :lol

[stalkerforlife]

:applause:



I myself was very fortunate to grow up with means, however due to my own wanderings and pursuits I have spent a good deal of my adult life around lower income classes. People who are struggling but doing things the right way usually don't end up struggling for long, or at the very least ensure their kids won't struggle. That's not to say they're having a grand ol' time, but they're usually able to get to a place where they can make their way without assistance. But the simple reality is, a lot of the poor simply don't value the same things the middle and upper classes value, and their lifestyle is a result of this.

Even in high school, where kids come mostly from the same areas, you have some who work their butts off, some who do enough to get by, and some who slack, cause trouble, and don't make any effort. That's just the natural variety of humans. There are plenty of people in this country willing to milk scams and programs while living their base, uninspired lives. TONS of people like that. It's all over the place.

The denial about this is simply for the sake of fitting a narrative. "The rich have too much." It's mostly envious middle class people who play this card, not becuase they want to lift the poor up, but because they want to reign the rich IN, so that they themselves move up a little bit close to the top. But they guise it in a phony, self-righteous concern for all those 'innocent people who just can't catch a break no matter how hard they try'

It's great to want to help the poor. But the only ones you can really help OUT of poverty are the ones who want to help themselves, which is not an overwhelming percentage. For everyone else, giving them money is simply giving them complacence. Democrats are either too dumb to realize this or too nefarious to acknowledge it.

You produce little to no income and you live off of your parents.

STFU. :lol

[Dray n Klay]

Stop it Justin, you're 33 and never held a job for more than 6 weeks

[TYCRO]

Stop it Justin, you're 33 and never held a job for more than 6 weeks
Which poster is Justin? Is it stalker?

[stalkerforlife]

Stop it Justin, you're 33 and never held a job for more than 6 weeks

:biggums:

[ArbitraryWater]

I actually make a fine living and have my own place because I actually went to college and got a degree and didn't drop out of 9th grade because of my acne. (boo hoo) You are the one stuck on welfare who needed a 300 lb whale to get with you to get laid. Now you got two mongoloid kids who are destined for the same...because what could they possibly learn from being raised by two hippos like you and your gf? Wait...she's destined to eventually dump you and take those kids away...I suppose you'll go back to making out with and sucking off dudes then.

damn :lol

[Kblaze8855]

You have no clue what you're talking about.

You take exceptions in your tiny little world and make them a rule.

Thankfully I stopped reading after the first few lines. :lol



If you stopped reading dont tell me I dont know what im talking about.

There are millions of people on food stamps who dont need them. 100% of the people I know on them dont need them.....which includes many of my own family.

You dont get to decide what reality is. We know these people. They may be examples from my life...but 100% of people who came up poor like me grew up seeing the same examples. I saw the same in chicago...north carolina....DC...south carolina.

I used to buy food stamps from people when I got my first place. Im giving women 50 bucks for 100 in food and driving them to the liquor store with the money. There are literally....millions of these people. And your opinion on that fact doesnt change it.

People get food stamps because they can. There are 50 million people on them probably feeding twice that number. I strongly suspect 100 million people wouldnt starve to death or start sucking dick in the park for turkey dogs if they went away.

It is a crutch and it is being abused to a crazy extent.

As I said....im fine with it for the most part because a lot of kids are eating....and im not gonna say take food out of their mouths because their parents are putting it there in shady ways. Feed your kids any way you can. But lets be real about it.

There are tens of millions of people who just dont need it. They want it. With all the help America gives the poor and lazy you almost never reach the point of needing anything if you dont have serious mental or physical problems.

[ace23]

I actually make a fine living and have my own place because I actually went to college and got a degree and didn't drop out of 9th grade because of my acne. (boo hoo) You are the one stuck on welfare who needed a 300 lb whale to get with you to get laid. Now you got two mongoloid kids who are destined for the same...because what could they possibly learn from being raised by two hippos like you and your gf? Wait...she's destined to eventually dump you and take those kids away...I suppose you'll go back to making out with and sucking off dudes then.
This shit got me crying

[Godzuki]

there will be a liberal uproar about this, pretending like we're treating them as slaves to live :coleman:

there really needs to be some penalties placed on people who put themselves in bad situations. whether thats being broke and having babby after baby or people who are able but dont want to work. that shit is so regular in this country and they abuse the handout systems.