Bye Bye 95-96 bulls

[CelticBaller]

That record is as good as gone

[riseagainst]

don't jinx it bruh.
but yes it is very likely to be broken.

[Im Still Ballin]

The first cracks in the Jordan legacy begin to show

[Smoke117]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.

[Dray n Klay]

The first cracks in the Jordan legacy begin to show

Madonna started it, and now the Warriors taking the record just adds to it.

[illmaticone]

Record is definitely broken now. This was the hardest game they had left. I think they win 73 games before their last 2. In which case they should rest everyone the final 2 games.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.

ladies and gent, behold damage control

[Hotlantadude81]

That record is as good as gone

It doesn't matter. The current NBA is shit and so the best record means nothing.

I say that as someone that hated the 90's Bulls.

[Im Still Ballin]

It doesn't matter. The current NBA is shit and so the best record means nothing.

I say that as someone that hated the 90's Bulls.
Ugh, Expansion teams?

[Smoke117]

ladies and gent, behold damage control

...I could care less if the Bulls 96 record falls...saying it won't matter if they fail in the playoffs is just the damn truth.

[CelticBaller]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.
> Implying they won't win a championship


lol, who honestly poses a threat?

[Spurs5Rings2014]

> Implying they won't win a championship


lol, who honestly poses a threat?

Bookmarked.

[SouBeachTalents]

> Implying they won't win a championship


lol, who honestly poses a threat?

I bet you felt the same way about the Pats in '07

[Hotlantadude81]

Ugh, Expansion teams?

The league only has 3 or 4 good teams. Honestly, even Cleveland isn't that great this year.

You have a slew of so so teams.

[Smoke117]

> Implying they won't win a championship


lol, who honestly poses a threat?

...that disrespect to the Spurs...

[Spurs m8]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.

Mate, these Warriors stans will struggle to get their heads around such logic, tbh

[Dresta]

> Implying they won't win a championship


lol, who honestly poses a threat?
The Spurs clearly do.

[Im Still Ballin]

> Implying they won't win a championship


lol, who honestly poses a threat?
I bet you felt the same way about Jesus Christ in 33AD

[CelticBaller]

Bookmarked.
Bruh, the only game Spurs won the whole team played like shit and they were in it the whole game

GS in 6 or less

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Mate, these Warriors stans will struggle to get their heads around such logic, tbh

:oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Bruh, the only game Spurs won the whole team played like shit and they were in it the whole game

GS in 6 or less

Regular season games and a 7 game playoff series are two very different beast.

[Spurs m8]

Bruh, the only game Spurs won the whole team played like shit and they were in it the whole game

GS in 6 or less

You are a stupid person, hey?

The Spurs shut GS players down.

Kept the losers to 79 points :roll:

Spurs didn't play great either and still clowned the GS clowns.

GS played bad for a reason, the Spurs were fckn owning them!!

And they will continue to do so.....Curry looked like a scared kid and Gaymond looked like the weak dog pu$$y he is

[Spurs5Rings2014]

You are a stupid person, hey?

The Spurs shut your players down.

Kept the losers to 79 points :roll:

Spurs didn't play great either and still clowned you clowns.

GS played bad for a reason, the Spurs were fckn owning them!!

And they will continue to do so.....

Don't do 'em like that.

:lol

[CelticBaller]

Lmao, excuse me for thinking the improved champions will beat the same team that got bounced by the clippers last season

So what if they improved, who here honestly think they can keep with the Warriors level of play?

You guys are ****ing delusional :oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Lmao, excuse me for thinking the improved champions will beat the same team that got bounced by the clippers last season

So what if they improved, who here honestly think they can keep with the Warriors level of play?

You guys are ****ing delusional :oldlol:

I'm delusional because I don't want to award a team a championship before they've actually won it...gotcha. :rolleyes:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Lmao, excuse me for thinking the improved champions will beat the same team that got bounced by the clippers last season

So what if they improved, who here honestly think they can keep with the Warriors level of play?

You guys are ****ing delusional :oldlol:

Because Spurs aren't improved also, you retard? Best record in franchise history, added Aldridge, West, etc in off season. Like I said, bookmarked. Leave the site when I bump this in June.

:oldlol:

[Spurs m8]

Lmao, excuse me for thinking the improved champions will beat the same team that got bounced by the clippers last season

So what if they improved, who here honestly think they can keep with the Warriors level of play?

You guys are ****ing delusional :oldlol:

You lost me at 'the same team', because it isn't the same team....in case you haven't noticed, they're quite improved and beat you dogs a week or two ago, shut them the fck down....you guys are nothing without a bit of luck, almost lost to the jazz again....the tired legs are here and its not even playoffs :roll:

Seriously, use some logic, your stupidity hurts my head....the improved Spurs team is coming to own you again and keep you to that ONE RING HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Rake2204]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.If they managed to set the regular season record, for me personally anyway, I think it'd take a monumental meltdown in the playoffs for it to lose its luster.

If they hadn't won a ring last year, I guess I'd be a little more demanding. And even then, I agree that not snagging a ring this year too would take some of the shine away. But overall, looking back, I'm going to remember when they ran to a title in '15 then came back and set the all-time wins record the very next year by playing some of the most incredible basketball I've ever seen.

If they lose to the Spurs during a tough conference finals, I'd respect that, because the Spurs are incredible, too. But if they lost in the first round or something, then it'd be like, "Okay yeah, this record's probably going to look a little tainted in hindsight."

For the sake of comparison, the Detroit Red Wings set the all-time points record in 1995-96 (standings points, basically meaning best record of all-time). They didn't win the cup that season but came back and won in '97 and '98. Now, all of those accomplishments are a part of the folklore of that club, even if some occurred in a non-Cup season.

[Magic 32]

I don't even think the 96 Bulls was the best MJ team.

90-95 > 95-00

[SwayDizzle]

lets be real here for a second. anyone breaking the regular season record has had to display a level of dominance rarely seen. even if they dont win the championship, breaking this record is a feat in itself and should be recognized as a great accomplishment. the playoffs are a different beast and of course them winning the whole thing would cement them as one of the greatest teams of all time. however, losing less than 10 games in an 82 game season is insane.

[Rake2204]

lets be real here for a second. anyone breaking the regular season record has had to display a level of dominance rarely seen. even if they dont win the championship, breaking this record is a feat in itself and should be recognized as a great accomplishment. the playoffs are a different beast and of course them winning the whole thing would cement them as one of the greatest teams of all time. however, losing less than 10 games in an 82 game season is insane.Agreed.

[sd3035]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.

The record is a regular season record you retard

[sd3035]

People with Wade avatars are always dumb AF :lol

[Spurs m8]

lets be real here for a second. anyone breaking the regular season record has had to display a level of dominance rarely seen. even if they dont win the championship, breaking this record is a feat in itself and should be recognized as a great accomplishment. the playoffs are a different beast and of course them winning the whole thing would cement them as one of the greatest teams of all time. however, losing less than 10 games in an 82 game season is insane.

Nah, it'd be one of the biggest chokes in NBA history tbh

Like Curry last finals.

[DatAsh]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.

The thing is, we have 2 of the best teams ever playing in the same conference this year.

Spurs, 62-12, 10.91 SRS
Warriors, 67-7, 10.40 SRS

Both these teams would be clear favorites in almost any other year ever, but one of them has to lose.

[Smoke117]

The record is a regular season record you retard

No ****ing shit genius...but if you don't win it all like the Bulls did...you aren't going to be considered on the same level as them, period. If the Warriors don't win it all nobody is going to care that they have the most regular season wins 10 years from now. Not that the 96 bulls are the greatest team ever...that would be the 86 celtics.

[Magic 32]

The record is a regular season record you retard

The record is only revered because every team with that record won the championship as well (72 Lakers/96 Bulls).

No one want that record and then lose.

[Smoke117]

The thing is, we have 2 of the best teams ever playing in the same conference this year.

Spurs, 62-12, 10.91 SRS
Warriors, 67-7, 10.40 SRS

Both these teams would be clear favorites in almost any other year ever, but one of them has to lose.

The 86 celtics would rape both these teams...

[sd3035]

The record is only revered because every team with that record won the championship as well (72 Lakers/96 Bulls).

No one want that record and then lose.

The Lakers didn't go 72-10 :roll:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

The 86 celtics would rape both these teams...

:facepalm

[DatAsh]

The 86 celtics would rape both these teams...

Maybe, they're also one of the best teams ever.

[Smoke117]

Maybe, they're also one of the best teams ever.

Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale, Robert Parish. Neither of these teams is equipped to deal with that goat frontcourt.

[Magic 32]

The Lakers didn't go 72-10 :roll:

They had the record prior to the Bulls (most win in a season). 69 games.

I always love when someone tries to embarrass someone and then ends up embarrassing themselves.

[sd3035]

Curry n Dray would rape Pippen's 72-10 Bulls

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale, Robert Parish. Neither of these teams is equipped to deal with that goat frontcourt.

Our front court is just as good, if not better.

:confusedshrug:

[sd3035]

They had the record prior to the Bulls (most win in a season). 69 games.

I always love when someone tries to embarrass someone and then ends up embarrassing themselves.

I was laughing at your dumb comment, I didn't try to embarrass you. You do a good enough job of that on your own

[Magic 32]

I was laughing at your dumb comment, I didn't try to embarrass you. You do a good enough job of that on your own

So you still can't read.

Nice.

[sd3035]

So you still can't read.

Nice.

you're livid

15-59 :applause:

[dazzer87]

really depends if they could win on friday night............biggest game of the yr.

[ZaoMing]

You are a stupid person, hey?

The Spurs shut GS players down.

Kept the losers to 79 points :roll:

Spurs didn't play great either and still clowned the GS clowns.

GS played bad for a reason, the Spurs were fckn owning them!!

And they will continue to do so.....Curry looked like a scared kid and Gaymond looked like the weak dog pu$$y he is


did you forget that gsw was on b2b and missing iggy, bogut and elizi? spurs old ass team are not going to keep up with the gsw.

[ZaoMing]

did you forget that gsw was on b2b and missing iggy, bogut and elizi? spurs old ass team are not going to keep up with the gsw.



spurs fans are just mad, cause the spurs are living in the shadow of gsw.
kiwii lenard is also living in the shadow of curry lol.

[Nuff Said]

People with Wade avatars are always dumb AF :lol
Wade fans, just like the man himself, have high bbiq foh.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

spurs fans are just mad, cause the spurs are living in the shadow of gsw.
kiwii lenard is also living in the shadow of curry lol.

Why are you responding to yourself, dude? You forget to log into that alt?

:oldlol:

[Pleurii]

Best they can do is 73-9

However, there is still a slight chance they "only" tie the record.

I have them losing to the Spurs and Grizzlies in those away games.
And maybe a very surprising loss from Boston or Blazers.

41-0 home
32-9 away
73-9 total

OR

40-1 home
32-9 away
72-10 total

[navy]

Our front court is just as good, if not better.

:confusedshrug:
:biggums:

[Spurs m8]

Leonard/LMA/Duncan > Barnes/Green/Bogut

TBH

Funny we haven't had a shooting guard starter for most of the season and have still managed what we have.

If Danny finds his shot, its all over

If he doesn't, we'll just have to try a little harder.

Cheers

[fourkicks44]

Why are you responding to yourself, dude? You forget to log into that alt?

:oldlol:


:facepalm

Seems to be happening a lot lately.

[Nezty]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.

This is completely true, while the record is an incredible accomplishment it actually doesn't mean much if you don't win a championship. Look at the Patriots when they went undefeated in the regular season but couldn't win the Super Bowl, there's just a gap there. It seems like the Warriors are giving it their all this season and looks like they're going to crash somewhere in the playoffs. Fatigue is going to get to them.

[Legends66NBA7]

Lmao, excuse me for thinking the improved champions will beat the same team that got bounced by the clippers last season

Spurs have improved from last year too. Current Spurs have Kawhi at an elite level, LMA, and a new determination on defense. They are much better than last year's team. Current Spurs wouldn't drop to a 6 seed.


Also, I wouldn't count out OKC either yet. Durant and Westbrook have shown they can turn it up and beat the top seeds in the West before.

[Overdrive]

Let's say they do break the record...you actually have to win the championship for it to actually matter. Winning the most regular season games of all time while you blow it in the playoffs isn't going to amount to much.

No you don't, it matters. It's the record. Do you have to win the game if you score 101 points/16 3pters/40 assits/etc for the record to matter?

The record on the other hand doesn't say anything about the team in terms of historical greatness if you're aiming at that. When people take one of the early 2000 Lakers teams to measure up to the other ATG teams they usually take the 2001 Lakers. Nobody cares for their less than stellar regular season record.

[Dragonyeuw]

I don't even think the 96 Bulls was the best MJ team.

90-95 > 95-00

I don't either. I would personally go with 92.

[SwayDizzle]

Nah, it'd be one of the biggest chokes in NBA history tbh

Like Curry last finals.
your team is almost neck and neck with gsw and is also playing at an all time level. gsw losing to the spurs wouldn't be the biggest choke of all time. your view of choking is distorted, gsw won last year.

[Nikola_]

Bulls benefited because line was moved closer ... i dont think they break 70. mj, pip dont shoot usually above 40%, kerr also 52% is just crazy...
on the other hand, "dilluted", "watered down" argument which is brought every time, didnt they actually lose to an expanison team?

[90sgoat]

Announcers talked about this yesterday. They both (incl. Matt Harpring) picked Bulls under any rules.

NO ONE who has played the game picks GSW over that Bulls team.

[Sarcastic]

6 for 6 >>> 72

[oh the horror]

Announcers talked about this yesterday. They both (incl. Matt Harpring) picked Bulls under any rules.

NO ONE who has played the game picks GSW over that Bulls team.



As anyone with a brain shouldn't. That Bulls team would take this team. But with that said this team will be accomplishing something amazing by breaking the record AND is def in the debate for one of the best teams ever. A championship will all but cement it for them to be in that top tier of dynasty teams.

[Kingwillball]

And most will acknowledge that bulls team is still the better team..

[Im Still Ballin]

Glad we can stop talking about the 95-96 Bulls

Forgotten

[ArbitraryWater]

No you don't, it matters. It's the record. Do you have to win the game if you score 101 points/16 3pters/40 assits/etc for the record to matter?

The record on the other hand doesn't say anything about the team in terms of historical greatness if you're aiming at that. When people take one of the early 2000 Lakers teams to measure up to the other ATG teams they usually take the 2001 Lakers. Nobody cares for their less than stellar regular season record.

You just made his point, the '01 Lakers are talked about and mentioned BECAUSE they won the title (and the fashion they did it in, of course, with that scary one two punch of Shaq/Fish).

[Sarcastic]

Bulls benefited because line was moved closer ... i dont think they break 70. mj, pip dont shoot usually above 40%, kerr also 52% is just crazy...
on the other hand, "dilluted", "watered down" argument which is brought every time, didnt they actually lose to an expanison team?

They also didn't have teams purposely tanking back then the way they do now, like Philly and LA. The league is more watered down now than it's ever been, even with expansion teams.

[TYCRO]

The tie it minimum. :bowdown:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

:biggums:

Leonard = Bird (Bird nastier offensively, Leonard just as nasty if not more nasty defensively compared to Bird's offense and Leonard's offense is still great with excellent shooting, efficiency, post play, clutchness, etc)
Aldridge < McHale (McHale was a beast, Aldridge not far off with his elite defense as well)
Duncan > Parish (Duncan is one of the best defenders in the entire league this season)

Even if you wanted to give the edge to Boston, it's not like it ain't close. We have one of the best front courts (and front court rotation) of all time this season.

:rockon:

[CelticBaller]

Leonard = Bird (Bird nastier offensively, Leonard just as nasty if not more nasty defensively compared to Bird's offense and Leonard's offense is still great with excellent shooting, efficiency, post play, clutchness, etc)
Aldridge < McHale (McHale was a beast, Aldridge not far off with his elite defense as well)
Duncan > Parish (Duncan is one of the best defenders in the entire league this season)

Even if you wanted to give the edge to Boston, it's not like it ain't close. We have one of the best front courts (and front court rotation) of all time this season.

:rockon:
This dude just said Leonard is as good as Larry Bird.

:roll:

[Im Still Ballin]

They also didn't have teams purposely tanking back then the way they do now, like Philly and LA. The league is more watered down now than it's ever been, even with expansion teams.
Teams have always tanked

Just so you know, teams don't go and tell each other in team meetings to all play like shit so we (the team) can get a top draft pick. Whatever you think of teams "tanking" now, most definitely occurred when Jordan played. You think every team played their hearts out because the league and world was full of good morals and ethical people? Naive, bro.

[TYCRO]

Glad we can stop talking about the 95-96 Bulls

Forgotten
Yes, and finally talk about a relevant team, like the Sacramento Kings.

[Sarcastic]

Teams have always tanked

Just so you know, teams don't go and tell each other in team meetings to all play like shit so we (the team) can get a top draft pick. Whatever you think of teams "tanking" now, most definitely occurred when Jordan played. You think every team played their hearts out because the league and world was full of good morals and ethical people? Naive, bro.

Players don't tank. Organizations do by putting out as bad a roster as possible. Philadelphia put together a roster as bad as any expansion team, on purpose. There's always been bad teams, but no one has ever really done what Hinkie tried to do this.

It was so bad in Philly that they had to hire Collangelo just to repair their reputation around the league.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

This dude just said Leonard is as good as Larry Bird.

:roll:

I clearly said Bird > Leonard offensively, but do you disagree that Leonard > Bird defensively? Leonard is a DPOY and is the front-runner for repeating this season. How is his impact on an ATG team as the lead alpha dog not comparable to Bird's?

:confusedshrug:

[Im Still Ballin]

Players don't tank. Organizations do by putting out as bad a roster as possible. Philadelphia put together a roster as bad as any expansion team, on purpose. There's always been bad teams, but no one has ever really done what Hinkie tried to do this.

It was so bad in Philly that they had to hire Collangelo just to repair their reputation around the league.
Hinkie is literally one guy

He didn't invent anything you think he did. Nobody sets out at the start of the season to tank. They see how it goes then realistically adjust. Teams have been "tanking" for decades.

And it's not going to make a difference to a top team even if your point were legitimate. There is just as many, if not probably more bad teams in the mid 90's due to the expansion teams. Those teams didn't exactly get the cream of the crop, and as we know, with any new teams in any sports league, it takes time for them to catch up on a talent base perspective and thus success in wins and losses.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Ain't Dallas win like 5 games in the 90's one year?

:lol

[TYCRO]

Ain't Dallas win like 5 games in the 90's one year?

:lol
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[Papaya Petee]

I clearly said Bird > Leonard offensively, but do you disagree that Leonard > Bird defensively? Leonard is a DPOY and is the front-runner for repeating this season. How is his impact on an ATG team as the lead alpha dog not comparable to Bird's?

:confusedshrug:
Holy **** you're dense :roll: :roll:

Guy just said Kawhi's impact is comparable to a prime Larry Bird who averaged 26\10\7\2\1 on 50\42\90 in the regular season and 26\9\8\2\1 on 52\41\93 in the playoffs, on what is regarded the GOAT team.

[Sarcastic]

Hinkie is literally one guy

He didn't invent anything you think he did. Nobody sets out at the start of the season to tank. They see how it goes then realistically adjust. Teams have been "tanking" for decades.

And it's not going to make a difference to a top team even if your point were legitimate. There is just as many, if not probably more bad teams in the mid 90's due to the expansion teams. Those teams didn't exactly get the cream of the crop, and as we know, with any new teams in any sports league, it takes time for them to catch up on a talent base perspective and thus success in wins and losses.

Ya know you can go look up the rosters of those teams and see they are better than the Philly roster. Toronto won 21 games and Vancouver won 15. Philly has 9, and there's a chance they don't get 1 more win. They set the record for most losses to start a season, and it wasn't until Collangelo signed Ish Smith that they resembled a professional team. They took tanking to a whole new level, and did it all on purpose. Any and every Sixer fan will tell you that. It's the "process".

[Sarcastic]

Ain't Dallas win like 5 games in the 90's one year?

:lol


Dallas was awful but that wasn't 95-96.

But the argument is that the expansion teams were so bad that it made getting to 72 wins easier. What I am saying is that the Sixers and Lakers futility is just as bad if not worse than any of the expansion teams. Philadelphia is definitely worse. They will likely tie the 72-73 Sixers as worst of all time.

[CelticBaller]

I clearly said Bird > Leonard offensively, but do you disagree that Leonard > Bird defensively? Leonard is a DPOY and is the front-runner for repeating this season. How is his impact on an ATG team as the lead alpha dog not comparable to Bird's?

:confusedshrug:
I don't think you realize that Bird was a good defender, plus him being 10 times better on the offensive, with putting one of the most efficent seasons of all time

I remember the days when Spurs fans weren't so out of touch with reality

[Im Still Ballin]

Ya know you can go look up the rosters of those teams and see they are better than the Philly roster. Toronto won 21 games and Vancouver won 15. Philly has 9, and there's a chance they don't get 1 more win. They set the record for most losses to start a season, and it wasn't until Collangelo signed Ish Smith that they resembled a professional team. They took tanking to a whole new level, and did it all on purpose. Any and every Sixer fan will tell you that. It's the "process".
One team?

You expect me to believe the talent pool in the league has become smaller since 1996? That's not how it works... The talent pool has increased. There might be 1 or 2 teams with terrible records, but then that must mean all the talent is on the other teams

No matter how you spin this, the league is just as strong as it was 20 years ago.

[Da_Realist]

No matter how you spin this, the league is just as strong as it was 20 years ago.

That's a joke.

Replace 16 GSW with 96 Bulls and the Bulls would absolutely shred this year's competition. There is only one other real team and that is San Antonio. No one else plays together as a team.

Go back to 96 and replace the Bulls with 16 GSW. They would have problems with Shaq/Penny's Magic, Sonics, Jazz, Rockets, Spurs and maybe even the young, mercurial but talented Lakers. They wouldn't win 70+ game in 96. Their small ball "death" lineup would get exposed against guys like Olajuwon, Robinson and Shaq.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Holy **** you're dense :roll: :roll:

Guy just said Kawhi's impact is comparable to a prime Larry Bird who averaged 26\10\7\2\1 on 50\42\90 in the regular season and 26\9\8\2\1 on 52\41\93 in the playoffs, on what is regarded the GOAT team.

The '86 Celtics, while being considered one of the greatest teams of all time, are not clearly the runaway GOAT team. And why just list some stats with no context like that measures their overall impact? I already said Bird was better offensively or at least did more on the offensive end, but since you want to plead ignorance. Leonard doesn't play as many minutes per game due to differences in coaching/era. It would be akin to comparing Bird's raw stats to Wilt's raw stats in the 60's.

Bird Per 36:
24.5/9.3/6.4/1.9/.6 on 49.6/42.3/89.6

Leonard Per 36:
23.1/7.5/2.7/2/1 on 50.8/45.8/88.3

Bird averaged 18.6 FGA's vs. Leonard's 16.5, so Leonard was scoring almost as much more efficiently than Bird. Not only that, but the disparity in their passing is almost fully negated by Bird's 3.1 TO's vs. Leonard's 1.6. He literally turns the ball over almost half as much because the ball is in his hands even less than one of the best off-ball players of all time. Leonard doesn't reduce his teammates assist %, turning them into play finishers.

Bird Per 100 POS:
32.2/12.3/8.5/2.5/.8 with 4.1 TOV. 117 ORtg, 99 DRtg.

Leonard Per 100 POS:
32.7/10.7/3.9/2.8/1.5 with 2.2 TOV. 122 ORtg, 95 DRtg.

Leonard actually has a higher offensive rating AND defensive rating. Like I said, he's the more efficient scorer, better shooter both mid range and 3P (3P by a good amount) while being negligibly worse from the line. He also scores his points in less attempts with less turnovers. The ball being in his hands less means his teammates can be play-makers more instead of play-finishers. This isn't to say that Bird isn't one of the best off-ball players of all time, but Leonard might one day eclipse that.

Look, I wasn't kidding when I said Leonard's floor is Pippen and his ceiling is Jordan. He's doing some amazing things this season. And also, think about this - Leonard is ONLY 24 years old this season! So he still hasn't reached his prime yet. Imagine when he's 29/30 like Bird was in 1986? Guy still has a lot of time before it all really comes together for athletes in this sport, both physically and mentally. He's still a kid and already comparable to top 10 GOAT's like Bird. Scary.

:eek:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

I don't think you realize that Bird was a good defender, plus him being 10 times better on the offensive, with putting one of the most efficent seasons of all time

I remember the days when Spurs fans weren't so out of touch with reality

Read my post. Bird is no where near 10x better on the offensive end this season compared to Kawhi and he's unequivocally not as efficient as Leonard is either this season (better shooting across the board with less turnovers, scoring almost as many points playing less minutes with less attempts and a higher offensive rating). It's not even debatable.

:confusedshrug:

[robert de niro]

don't jinx it bruh.
but yes it is very likely to be broken.
not even Konex himself could jinx this.

[Da_Realist]

I think most serious basketball fans over the last 30 years would vote the 86 Celtics as the best team ever. If not them, then the 87 Lakers. Some would say the 83 Sixers. Some would say the 96 Bulls. But most, all biases aside, would probably point to the 86 Celtics.

Plus, Kawhi is really good but he's no Larry Bird no matter what the numbers say.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

I think most serious basketball fans over the last 30 years would vote the 86 Celtics as the best team ever. If not them, then the 87 Lakers. Some would say the 83 Sixers. Some would say the 96 Bulls. But most, all biases aside, would probably point to the 86 Celtics.

Plus, Kawhi is really good but he's no Larry Bird no matter what the numbers say.

What about the '72 Lakers?

He's closer than people would have you believe this season and a better defender for sure. He's also only 24 and we're comparing him to a 29/30 year old absolute PEAK Bird. That's a win in of itself.

[Da_Realist]

What about the '72 Lakers?

Definitely. But most of the ones that saw them play probably wouldn't be discussing them on a message board. That was almost 44 years ago.


He's closer than people would have you believe this season and a better defender for sure. He's also only 24 and we're comparing him to a 29/30 year old absolute PEAK Bird. That's a win in of itself.

Like I said...I like Kawhi and I think he's a good player. But Bird was the sun the rest of the NBA revolved around in the mid-eighties. 3 straight MVP's. MJ didn't even do that. Nor did Magic or Shaq or Duncan or anyone else. That Bird would be the best player in the league and that includes the supernova Steph Curry. Kawhi is not on that level.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Definitely. But most of the ones that saw them play probably wouldn't be discussing them on a message board. That was almost 44 years ago.



Like I said...I like Kawhi and I think he's a good player. But Bird was the sun the rest of the NBA revolved around in the mid-eighties. 3 straight MVP's. MJ didn't even do that. Nor did Magic or Shaq or Duncan or anyone else. That Bird would be the best player in the league and that includes the supernova Steph Curry. Kawhi is not on that level.

I think he's right there with '86 Bird and Curry this season, but to each his own.

:cheers:

[Im Still Ballin]

That's a joke.

Replace 16 GSW with 96 Bulls and the Bulls would absolutely shred this year's competition. There is only one other real team and that is San Antonio. No one else plays together as a team.

Go back to 96 and replace the Bulls with 16 GSW. They would have problems with Shaq/Penny's Magic, Sonics, Jazz, Rockets, Spurs and maybe even the young, mercurial but talented Lakers. They wouldn't win 70+ game in 96. Their small ball "death" lineup would get exposed against guys like Olajuwon, Robinson and Shaq.
Two different periods of time

You can never comfortably compare teams across eras like that. The league hasn't magically gotten worse like you seem to believe. They'll be saying the same shit in 20 years time about this time period. And so on and so forth.

Why do you think the Warriors would play that way? They have the bigs and pieces to play anyway they please. Bogut can hang and contest with any center. Imagine that short three point line though. Lmao. Combine that with illegal defense rules, and the warriors would carve up teams.

[oh the horror]

Two different periods of time

You can never comfortably compare teams across eras like that. The league hasn't magically gotten worse like you seem to believe. They'll be saying the same shit in 20 years time about this time period. And so on and so forth.

Why do you think the Warriors would play that way? They have the bigs and pieces to play anyway they please. Bogut can hang and contest with any center. Imagine that short three point line though. Lmao. Combine that with illegal defense rules, and the warriors would carve up teams.




Andrew Bogut could hang with Dream, young Shaq, Ewing and Robinson. Okay dude :yaohappy:

[warriorfan]

Andrew Bogut could hang with Dream, young Shaq, Ewing and Robinson. Okay dude :yaohappy:

maybe now he would have some trouble at times but when he was younger he would be able to definitely...bogut is one of the best defenders of this generation

[Im Still Ballin]

Andrew Bogut could hang with Dream, young Shaq, Ewing and Robinson. Okay dude :yaohappy:
Why not? He's a better defender than guys like Luke Longley. He's better than your average run of the mill 90's center. I wonder if you even watched NBA back then. Star players will get theres no matter what. But Bogut will atleast hang with them and make them work for it.

Google the Davis brothers. (Not actually brothers) Protip, they are bigmen who played for Indiana in the 90's.

[Im Still Ballin]

I don't mean hang as in individually outplay them. Nobody expects or should expect Bogut to put up 30. He'll hang, as in play solid defense and make it a hard 30 points.

[Im Still Ballin]

The center position is not a big deal for the Warriors. Bogut is legit, Speights is legit, Festus is legit.. They are more than capable to hold the fort down. Hell, the Bulls never had a dominant center. The warriors will win they same way the Bulls do. From the backcourt

[Da_Realist]

Two different periods of time

You can never comfortably compare teams across eras like that. The league hasn't magically gotten worse like you seem to believe. They'll be saying the same shit in 20 years time about this time period. And so on and so forth.

Why do you think the Warriors would play that way? They have the bigs and pieces to play anyway they please. Bogut can hang and contest with any center. Imagine that short three point line though. Lmao. Combine that with illegal defense rules, and the warriors would carve up teams.

The type of teams that would give Golden State problems don't exist today. GS wouldn't think of playing small ball against Shaq. Then you add in that they had big guards like Penny and Nick Anderson. Both of whom would punish GS's guards in the paint. That team and others like it would give GS some real problems. They certainly wouldn't win 70+ facing teams like that on a regular basis.

[Da_Realist]

Why not? He's a better defender than guys like Luke Longley. He's better than your average run of the mill 90's center. I wonder if you even watched NBA back then. Star players will get theres no matter what. But Bogut will atleast hang with them and make them work for it.

Shaq used to eat guys like Bogut for lunch every single night. When Shaq played guys like Bogut, fans said it wasn't "fair".

Longley was helped by playing with (possibly) the best perimeter defense in league history.

[Im Still Ballin]

The type of teams that would give Golden State problems don't exist today. GS wouldn't think of playing small ball against Shaq. Then you add in that they had big guards like Penny and Nick Anderson. Both of whom would punish GS's guards in the paint. That team and others like it would give GS some real problems. They certainly wouldn't win 70+ facing teams like that on a regular basis.
Completely different era. The 96 Bulls wouldn't win 70 games today. Because these teams aren't tooled for those eras. What do I know though? Both teams have the players to play both ways. Warriors have legit bigs in Bougt/Festus/Varejao/Speights

Bulls could play Kukoc at the 4 and Rodman at the 5

It is stupid to say that a team is worse compared to another team from a separate era, because teams are built to win in their own era. It goes both ways though. How do you think teams will be able to deal with the two greatest shooters of all time? Let alone on a 22ft 3pt line. Curry would average 50% on 14 attempts.

Rate teams based on their success in their retrospective era. Because the reality is, the league hasn't gotten any worse than 20 years ago. It's nostalgia.

You talk about "Small ball weakness"... Once again you fool. It goes both ways. Teams don't play small for no reason. It's not as if no one can seem to magically defeat the small ball by playing a few 7 footers. Teams play small because that's what wins games today. The warriors wouldn't play small if they were in 1996. They'd play bogut more. Simple.

[Im Still Ballin]

Shaq used to eat guys like Bogut for lunch every single night. When Shaq played guys like Bogut, fans said it wasn't "fair".

Longley was helped by playing with (possibly) the best perimeter defense in league history.
So what's the deal? Shaq wasn't winning championships in 1996. Bogut will do just fine, because they did back then. It won't be a gamechanger you think it will be. You're not stopping Shaq, and you're not stopping Curry, let alone with a 22ft 3pt line.

[Da_Realist]

Small ball is what elevates the warriors above the rest of the league. It's known as the death lineup for a reason -- because no today can match up to it. It's what they use to close out games or score points quickly. It's their identity.

Put them in 96 and they would lose that identity because there were too many teams that could exploit it. They'd have to play like a traditional team -- thereby losing their uniqueness.

That's why they wouldn't win 70+ games in 96. The league back then had variety of play and styles. Today's league is very homogenized.

[TYCRO]

Andrew Bogut could hang with Dream, young Shaq, Ewing and Robinson. Okay dude :yaohappy:
The dude believes year after year that the Kings will be good. He clearly doesn't think things through.

[Da_Realist]

So what's the deal? Shaq wasn't winning championships in 1996. Bogut will do just fine, because they did back then. It won't be a gamechanger you think it will be. You're not stopping Shaq, and you're not stopping Curry, let alone with a 22ft 3pt line.

Shaq would force GS to make adjustments. They'd have to double and that's bad news because Penny, Nick Anderson and Dennis Scott would thrive with the open looks.

[Lebron23]

Record are meant to be broken.

[Im Still Ballin]

Nope. You completely ignore my post and all my points so I'm going to do the same to you

Warriors are breaking the record

Deal with it

The 95-96 Bulls won't be that team anymore

That's the truth

[r0drig0lac]

This dude just said Leonard is as good as Larry Bird.

:roll:
:lol

[CelticBaller]

Read my post. Bird is no where near 10x better on the offensive end this season compared to Kawhi and he's unequivocally not as efficient as Leonard is either this season (better shooting across the board with less turnovers, scoring almost as many points playing less minutes with less attempts and a higher offensive rating). It's not even debatable.

:confusedshrug:
Yeah I read it and is stupidly flawed.

Firts of all, Kawhi won't even be closed to average those averages if he played more minutes.
Second, you downplayed Bird assist cause he avg 3 turnovers? Magic Johnson avg 4 compared to his 11 AST per game. High TO's are due when you have the highest usage plus touch the ball more in the team. They should be Used in context.

And thirdly. Bird did all of this while RUNNING the Team. You saw what prime LeBron was doing? Bird was doing it all the time while putting crazy numbers. Kawhi is just part of the system while guys like Bron and Bird WERE the system.

Lol even your stats failed to back up your point. How come the DPOY has a lower defensive rating than Bird? Oh yeah, because those stats are flawed :hammerhead:

[imdaman99]

I'll wait till after they win the championship before discrediting the 96 Bulls :confusedshrug:

What good would a regular season record be if they didn't win it all?

[Sarcastic]

I'll wait till after they win the championship before discrediting the 96 Bulls :confusedshrug:

What good would a regular season record be if they didn't win it all?


Yup. Just ask the Patriots.

[kamil]

Ugh, Expansion teams?

TWO teams? Seriously? And only one in their conference affecting them directly? As if they really made a difference.

[Spurs m8]

your team is almost neck and neck with gsw and is also playing at an all time level. gsw losing to the spurs wouldn't be the biggest choke of all time. your view of choking is distorted, gsw won last year.


And there it is again....

I said Curry choked....not the Warriors.

Hence no FMVP votes.

****ing hell

[1987_Lakers]

Our front court is just as good, if not better.

:confusedshrug:

This might be the dumbest post I have read all year.

[Spurs m8]

This might be the dumbest post I have read all year.

It's true though...at least debatable.

You're a Lakers fan though...says it all

You probably think the front court is the back court or something

[1987_Lakers]

It's true though...at least debatable.

You're a Lakers fan though...says it all

You probably think the front court is the back court or something

Better than Bird/McHale/Parish/Walton??

:oldlol:

[CuterThanRubio]

I don't think you realize that Bird was a good defender, plus him being 10 times better on the offensive, with putting one of the most efficent seasons of all time

I remember the days when Spurs fans weren't so out of touch with reality

You bring up efficiency, then proceed to claim Bird is better offensively? lol

Kawhi is putting up percentages this season that Bird could never reach.

His TS% is 619, higher than Bird's best season, and his PER matches that of Bird's best year, so I don't think the comparison is that out of the ordinary.

Once you factor in Leonard's game changing defense he clearly steps out ahead in this race.

Kawhi Leonard is a better basketball player than Larry Bird, easily!

[Smoke117]

Did I just read that Kawhi Leonard was on the level of Larry Bird?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_x-tAsj_GCo/U1nAq-Mz2MI/AAAAAAAAg8E/Vlpmz5nsHDY/s1600/Larry+Bird.gif

Leonard isn't even as good as Scottie in his prime so saying he's as good as Larry Bird is joke...that's without even mentioning how inflated Leonards stats are by the fact that you can't even breathe on perimeter players or play any real defense anymore.

[1987_Lakers]

This thread just showed me that Spurs' fans might be the most delusional people on this site.:oldlol:

[r0drig0lac]

You bring up efficiency, then proceed to claim Bird is better offensively? lol

Kawhi is putting up percentages this season that Bird could never reach.

His TS% is 619, higher than Bird's best season, and his PER matches that of Bird's best year, so I don't think the comparison is that out of the ordinary.

Once you factor in Leonard's game changing defense he clearly steps out ahead in this race.

Kawhi Leonard is a better basketball player than Larry Bird, easily!


http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/putersmash.gif

[Dragonyeuw]

Kawhi Leonard is a better basketball player than Larry Bird, easily!

Holy fcuk.

http://i.imgur.com/FowZ4qZ.gif

[Sakkreth]

You bring up efficiency, then proceed to claim Bird is better offensively? lol

Kawhi is putting up percentages this season that Bird could never reach.

His TS% is 619, higher than Bird's best season, and his PER matches that of Bird's best year, so I don't think the comparison is that out of the ordinary.

Once you factor in Leonard's game changing defense he clearly steps out ahead in this race.

Kawhi Leonard is a better basketball player than Larry Bird, easily!

Show yourself out idiot and never come back. :facepalm

[zizozain]

This thread just showed me that Spurs' fans might be the most delusional people on this site.:oldlol:
:no:
say no to generalizing

Spurs5Rings2014 and Kawhi m8 are delusional **** tho

[CelticBaller]

This thread just showed me that Spurs' fans might be the most delusional people on this site.:oldlol:
:oldlol:

[Legends66NBA7]

And there it is again....

I said Curry choked....not the Warriors.

Hence no FMVP votes.

****ing hell

Curry choking in the Finals series is based off 1 game.

:oldlol:

[Legends66NBA7]

:no:
say no to generalizing

Spurs5Rings2014 and Kawhi m8 are delusional **** tho

True.

They are atrocious on Spurs talk, if anyone has ever gone there.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

> Implying they won't win a championship


lol, who honestly poses a threat?

LoL...

SA is only 5 freakin games behind them and it was to do with them resting a lot of their players.

Anyone sleepin on the Spurs are about to get a rude awakening.

[zizozain]

True.

They are atrocious on Spurs talk, if anyone has ever gone there.
yes :D

i saw them via pop's thread link

[Spurs m8]

This thread just showed me that Spurs' fans might be the most delusional people on this site.:oldlol:

Ah shit, i was comparing to GS, not Celtics lol


My bad, sorry champ

[ballinhun8]

Holy fcuk.

http://i.imgur.com/FowZ4qZ.gif



And this is why people don't even respect ISH anymore.

[Chokefree]

If they do break the record...I still dont think they are better than the bulls because back then...rules were different, and there were better players on different teams unlike now they all collude (thanks lebronze) etc.....

[Soundwave]

The first cracks in the Jordan legacy begin to show

Yeah only took *20 years*, lol maybe in another 40 years we'll have someone who actually plays as well as Jordan.

I like the Warriors, if anyone was going to beat it I'm glad it's them and not any of the Laker teams or Beta Bran squads.

[Da_Realist]

Yeah only took *20 years*, lol maybe in another 40 years we'll have someone who actually plays as well as Jordan.

I like the Warriors, if anyone was going to beat it I'm glad it's them and not any of the Laker teams or Beta Bran squads.

Lebron and his merry musketeers won 66 games a little while ago. Do you know that's more than any of Magic's great Lakers? It's all about the competiton.

[Bawkish]

Beating '96 Bulls record & beating THE '96 Bulls is completely different thing

[Papaya Petee]

There we have it folks, Bird = Kawhi :facepalm

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You bring up efficiency, then proceed to claim Bird is better offensively? lol

Kawhi is putting up percentages this season that Bird could never reach.

His TS% is 619, higher than Bird's best season, and his PER matches that of Bird's best year, so I don't think the comparison is that out of the ordinary.

Once you factor in Leonard's game changing defense he clearly steps out ahead in this race.

Kawhi Leonard is a better basketball player than Larry Bird, easily!

Bird's volume along with his passing makes the comparison pretty lopsided, so no, Kawhi isn't even in the same realm with Bird as an offensive player.

You could be trolling, although with the amount of idiots who post on here its kinda hard to tell.

[Da_Realist]

You could be trolling, although with the amount of idiots who post on here its kinda hard to tell.

So true

[CuterThanRubio]

Bird's volume along with his passing makes the comparison pretty lopsided, so no, Kawhi isn't even in the same realm with Bird as an offensive player.

You could be trolling, although with the amount of idiots who post on here its kinda hard to tell.


Kawhi's volume from three surpasses anything Bird has ever done, and he is doing it at a higher percentage than Bird has ever shot from there, when he is supposedly one of the best three point shooters ever.

Kawhi is also capable of locking down the best player on opposing teams, Bird was not an elite defender, solid but not great. Could you imagine LeBron matched up against that slow white man? He would get brutalized, but Kawhi got into his head and won FMVP because of it. Larry didn't even win FMVP in his first finals!

Don't believe these old guys and their manufactured hype!

People are so afraid to discover the truth and go against the grain, it's sickening, you guys are BETA to the core if you can't think for yourselves

[CP3PO]

What is this Kawhi being better than Bird craziness?

[Sarcastic]

Kawhi's volume from three surpasses anything Bird has ever done, and he is doing it at a higher percentage than Bird has ever shot from there, when he is supposedly one of the best three point shooters ever.

Kawhi is also capable of locking down the best player on opposing teams, Bird was not an elite defender, solid but not great. Could you imagine LeBron matched up against that slow white man? He would get brutalized, but Kawhi got into his head and won FMVP because of it. Larry didn't even win FMVP in his first finals!

Don't believe these old guys and their manufactured hype!

People are so afraid to discover the truth and go against the grain, it's sickening, you guys are BETA to the core if you can't think for yourselves


Haha April Fool's. I get it.

https://media.giphy.com/media/DfbpTbQ9TvSX6/giphy.gif

[CuterThanRubio]

Haha April Fool's. I get it.

https://media.giphy.com/media/DfbpTbQ9TvSX6/giphy.gif

I'm supposed to take opinions about basketball seriously from a person who specifically searched for a fvcking MINIONS gif?

I don't think so!

Continue denying FACTS all you want, the truth is out there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytJW6TmPfK0

^

Find me a clip of Bird doing anything like that at least ONCE, let alone for the entire duration of a six minute video.

I'll wait.

:coleman:

[Sarcastic]

I'm supposed to take opinions about basketball seriously from a person who specifically searched for a fvcking MINIONS gif?

I don't think so!

Continue denying FACTS all you want, the truth is out there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytJW6TmPfK0

^

Find me a clip of Bird doing anything like that at least ONCE, let alone for the entire duration of a six minute video.

I'll wait.

:coleman:

Really not that hard to find the gif considering it's been posted all over the Internet all day today.


And a 6 minute video on Kawhi's defense is supposed to prove he's better than Bird? There's hundreds if not thousands of Bird videos out there. Go watch them yourself.

But if you have to resort to cherrypicked youtube videos, or snap shots to make a point, then your point doesn't really hold weight.

[nba_55]

https://media.riffsy.com/images/d234f4f816346fb37644230f3689c904/raw

[Papaya Petee]

Kawhi's volume from three surpasses anything Bird has ever done, and he is doing it at a higher percentage than Bird has ever shot from there, when he is supposedly one of the best three point shooters ever.

Kawhi is also capable of locking down the best player on opposing teams, Bird was not an elite defender, solid but not great. Could you imagine LeBron matched up against that slow white man? He would get brutalized, but Kawhi got into his head and won FMVP because of it. Larry didn't even win FMVP in his first finals!

Don't believe these old guys and their manufactured hype!

People are so afraid to discover the truth and go against the grain, it's sickening, you guys are BETA to the core if you can't think for yourselves

:roll: :roll: The Spurs won because they played beautiful team basketball and had the most rounded effort I have ever seen in the finals. Miami was old, depleted, injured, and had a horrible game plan coming in. Wade had the worst series of his life, Bosh was non existant, and role players weren't hitting their shots. San Antonio destroyed Miami with ball movement.

Kawhi "holding" LeBron to 28\8\5\1\1 on 56% shooting won him the Finals MVP? Kawhi won finals MVP because the Spurs were the most rounded team ever and had no legitimate superstar who dominated statistically.
Kawhi's FMVP performance is on the level of 04 Billups, 08 Pierce, and 15 Iguodala.

[CelticBaller]

04 Billups, 08 Pierce, and 15 Iguodala.
One of these don't belong with the other ones :lol

[kamil]

Beating '96 Bulls record & beating THE '96 Bulls is completely different thing

I'd like to see the current warriors team try to get 72-10 in the 95-96 season. Much tougher competition.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Kawhi's volume from three surpasses anything Bird has ever done

And yet, still has SIGNIFICANTLY less volume on overall field goal attempts.


Kawhi is also capable of locking down the best player on opposing teams, Bird was not an elite defender, solid but not great.

Nothing to do with offense.


People are so afraid to discover the truth and go against the grain, it's sickening, you guys are BETA to the core if you can't think for yourselves

Your username is "CuterThanRubio" and you're talking about posters being allegedly beta?

Get the f*ck out of here, fruit cake. :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

I'd like to see the current warriors team try to get 72-10 in the 95-96 season. Much tougher competition.

How so? The NBA added 2 expansion teams during the 95-96 season, as a matter of fact players from the 80's like Magic & Bird downplayed the Bulls winning 72 games that year because they called it a "watered down league" due to a bunch of expansion teams being added in a short span.

The Warriors are playing in a conference where the Spurs will end up with around 67-68 wins and the 3rd seed in OKC has two superstars in Durant/Wetbrook. The Bulls in the East only had to worry about Orlando with Shaq & Penny, after that it was pretty weak. The Pacers won 50 games that year with Reggie Miller being their best player, the Knicks by that point had kind of fallen off.

[Sarcastic]

How so? The NBA added 2 expansion teams during the 95-96 season, as a matter of fact players from the 80's like Magic & Bird downplayed the Bulls winning 72 games that year because they called it a "watered down league" due to a bunch of expansion teams being added in a short span.

The Warriors are playing in a conference where the Spurs will end up with around 67-68 wins and the 3rd seed in OKC has two superstars in Durant/Wetbrook. The Bulls in the East only had to worry about Orlando with Shaq & Penny, after that it was pretty weak. The Pacers won 50 games that year with Reggie Miller being their best player, the Knicks by that point had kind of fallen off.


Sixers and Lakers are just as bad if not worse than Toronto and Vancouver. Sixers are legitimately one of, if not the worst team of all time.

[1987_Lakers]

Sixers and Lakers are just as bad if not worse than Toronto and Vancouver. Sixers are legitimately one of, if not the worst team of all time.

Believe it or not the Sixers were also pretty bad in '96, only winning 18 games, Bulls played them 4 times that year. The Warriors won 67 games last year playing in one of the toughest conferences of all time, so I wouldn't discount this Warriors team winning 72 games in '96.

Like I said, the East wasn't very strong in '96, the Cavs were the #4 seed in the East that year winning 47 games with Terrell Brandon as their best player. The Clippers of today would have no problem handling that team.

Just like OKC with Durant/Wetbrook would have no problem handling the Pacers which was a team with basically 1 All-Star (Reggie) and a bunch of role players.

[CuterThanRubio]

And yet, still has SIGNIFICANTLY less volume on overall field goal attempts.



Nothing to do with offense.



Your username is "CuterThanRubio" and you're talking about posters being allegedly beta?

Get the f*ck out of here, fruit cake. :oldlol:


LOL, Do I really have to break it down for you?

Kawhi has taken more shots from three this year than Larry's highest year, and is making them at a better percentage than Larry's highest year (when he only made 56).

His true shooting % is .619, which is higher than Larry's best , explain that?

His PER this year is 26.1, while Larry's greatest season was 26.5.

Why are you acting like they aren't comparable when their numbers, and IMPACT match up very closely.

Once you factor in Kawhi's FMVP level defense, and in my mind he is the greatest perimeter defender ever, edging out Pippen, it is no contest.

Stop trolling and start fact checking, you mentally handicapped fvckboy!

You want to talk usernames lol, yours looks like something you would see on a nerdy virgin infested online video game!

Don't get mad because the ladies love my style, and even Ricky Rubio himself admitted that I look better than him, get over it!

I might start a Kawhi>Bird thread soon and drop all the numbers in there for the world to see!

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

LOL, Do I really have to break it down for you?

Kawhi has taken more shots from three this year than Larry's highest year, and is making them at a better percentage than Larry's highest year (when he only made 56).

His true shooting % is .619, which is higher than Larry's best , explain that?

His PER this year is 26.1, while Larry's greatest season was 26.5.

Once again, Kawhi also shoots significantly less than Bird in overall field goal attempts.

Why you're reducing this to just 3PA is beyond me. :confusedshrug:

Moreoever, you used PER which takes blocks and steals into account. Are you already forgetting we're discussing their offensive play?


You want to talk usernames lol, yours looks like something you would see on a nerdy virgin infested online video game!

Don't get mad because the ladies love my style, and even Ricky Rubio himself admitted that I look better than him, get over it!

My username has nothing to do with video games, but alright.

And you talked with Rubio huh? Were you licking his asshole when he paid you that compliment?

Lets call a spade a spade. You're obviously an alt of a scared little bitch too afraid to post this nonsense on your main. Log into your "real" account and lets have a legitimate debate. The crap you spewed above is easily refuted; I literally debunked it in seconds. :oldlol:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Not going to argue with people straight up lying in here. Posting straw mans, gifs and other such nonsense doesn't make your case for you. I only respond to facts. Post them up or shut up. I don't wanna hear this hyperbolic nonsense of 'Bird is literally 10x better and more efficient' or 'Leonard is a system player.' Either watch some Spurs games or stop trolling. Leonard's our iso/bail out guy this season. The offense is run through HIM right now. Actually watch games before talking about thing you know nothing about.

For the record, I never stated that Kawhi was better than Bird offensively. I stated that Bird is probably better on the offensive end due to volume, but that Leonard is more efficient and doesn't have the ball in his hands as much (something that is lauded around here when it comes to Jordan and Bird, but is used as an insult when it's Leonard). Leonard is clearly better than Bird defensively and his defensive impact is extremely high. My argument from the beginning was that Kawhi's amazing defense in addition to his great offensive efficiency is comparable to Bird's amazing offense and solid defense. Nothing more.

[ArbitraryWater]

Not going to argue with people straight up lying in here. Posting straw mans, gifs and other such nonsense doesn't make your case for you. I only respond to facts. Post them up or shut up. I don't wanna hear this hyperbolic nonsense of 'Bird is literally 10x better and more efficient' or 'Leonard is a system player.' Either watch some Spurs games or stop trolling. Leonard's our iso/bail out guy this season. The offense is run through HIM right now. Actually watch games before talking about thing you know nothing about.

For the record, I never stated that Kawhi was better than Bird offensively. I stated that Bird is probably better on the offensive end due to volume, but that Leonard is more efficient and doesn't have the ball in his hands as much (something that is lauded around here when it comes to Jordan and Bird, but is used as an insult when it's Leonard). Leonard is clearly better than Bird defensively and his defensive impact is extremely high. My argument from the beginning was that Kawhi's amazing defense in addition to his great offensive efficiency is comparable to Bird's amazing offense and solid defense. Nothing more.

You're the same guy who said Duncan is still the best player on the Spurs, yet somehow Kawhi = Bird? So current Duncan > 86 Bird?

Your shit isnt making sense from start to end.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

You're the same guy who said Duncan is still the best player on the Spurs, yet somehow Kawhi = Bird? So current Duncan > 86 Bird?

Your shit isnt making sense from start to end.

Duncan all time > Bird, IMO, but I would compare current Duncan more-so to Parish if anything at this point. He's still one of the best defenders in the game, though.

Duncan has regressed this season and Leonard has improved by leaps and bounds. Perhaps you should watch games before coming at me.

:facepalm

[90sgoat]

Believe it or not the Sixers were also pretty bad in '96, only winning 18 games, Bulls played them 4 times that year. The Warriors won 67 games last year playing in one of the toughest conferences of all time, so I wouldn't discount this Warriors team winning 72 games in '96.

Like I said, the East wasn't very strong in '96, the Cavs were the #4 seed in the East that year winning 47 games with Terrell Brandon as their best player. The Clippers of today would have no problem handling that team.

Just like OKC with Durant/Wetbrook would have no problem handling the Pacers which was a team with basically 1 All-Star (Reggie) and a bunch of role players.

1996 players:

Clarence Weatherspoon (Poor Man's Barkley) - 16-10
Rook Jerry Stackhouse (future scoring champ) - 19ppg
Vernon Maxwell (2 time champ) - 16ppg

Not a great team by any chance, Derrick Coleman was injured, Bradley injured, but Vernon Maxwell and Clarence Weatherspoon were better than anything Sixers have today. Stackhouse was a rook but still a very talented player.

I have no idea how that Cavs team won that many games, don't remember them at all, they were coached by Mike Fratello, I am guessing they played a good team game.

You say 'led by Terrel Brandon' but he put up 20ppg along with 7 apg on 47-39-89. If he played today who's to say he is not Damian Lillard?

Remember still some handcheck back then.

20-7 on 47-39-89 that's damn close to 50-40-90.

Then he got injured. Terrel Brandon was a big talent, why play it down. Do you think anyone will remember Damian Lillard in 20 years? No way.

Then there was Toronto and Vancoucer pretty bad teams, sure.

Toronto had rookie Mighty Mouse put up 19-9 as a rookie! But they were bad, sure, really bad, fat man midget center Oliver Miller lol.

[CelticBaller]

The offense does not run through Leonard lmao. Like 50% of his points are assisted and his ast numbers are low as ****

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Yeah I read it and is stupidly flawed.

Firts of all, Kawhi won't even be closed to average those averages if he played more minutes.
Second, you downplayed Bird assist cause he avg 3 turnovers? Magic Johnson avg 4 compared to his 11 AST per game. High TO's are due when you have the highest usage plus touch the ball more in the team. They should be Used in context.

And thirdly. Bird did all of this while RUNNING the Team. You saw what prime LeBron was doing? Bird was doing it all the time while putting crazy numbers. Kawhi is just part of the system while guys like Bron and Bird WERE the system.

Lol even your stats failed to back up your point. How come the DPOY has a lower defensive rating than Bird? Oh yeah, because those stats are flawed :hammerhead:

How do you know he wouldn't 'be even close to average those averages if he played more minutes'? There's no way to know since Pop will never let him play that many minutes.

No, I was adding context rather than just saying he averages more assists. TO's should always be included with assists when evaluating play-making, IMO. That's good for Magic, but Bird doesn't average anywhere near 11 assists for your comparison to hold any water here, so why even bring him up? No shit you'll have higher TO's with higher usage. That's exactly my point. Everything has a price and has a counter balance. He's not just averaging more assists with no downsides or anything.

You're wrong. Leonard is The Man this season when it comes to the Spurs' 'system.' HE is the guy. He's our main iso/bail-out guy. When we need a bucket, we give it to him and let him go to work whether it be dancing on someone behind the arc for a contested three or posting up for the turn-around fade. I feel like people who still call Leonard just a system player at this point don't watch enough Spurs games. He's been anything but a system player this season.

How did my stats fail to back up my point? Leonard has a lower defensive rating than Bird because lower is better, genius. The stats aren't flawed, you're just not familiar with them. Leonard also has a higher offensive rating this season than Bird had in '86.

[Sarcastic]

Believe it or not the Sixers were also pretty bad in '96, only winning 18 games, Bulls played them 4 times that year. The Warriors won 67 games last year playing in one of the toughest conferences of all time, so I wouldn't discount this Warriors team winning 72 games in '96.

Like I said, the East wasn't very strong in '96, the Cavs were the #4 seed in the East that year winning 47 games with Terrell Brandon as their best player. The Clippers of today would have no problem handling that team.

Just like OKC with Durant/Wetbrook would have no problem handling the Pacers which was a team with basically 1 All-Star (Reggie) and a bunch of role players.


That's still 2x better than the current Sixers :lol

[CuterThanRubio]

Once again, Kawhi also shoots significantly less than Bird in overall field goal attempts.

Why you're reducing this to just 3PA is beyond me. :confusedshrug:

Moreoever, you used PER which takes blocks and steals into account. Are you already forgetting we're discussing their offensive play?



My username has nothing to do with video games, but alright.

And you talked with Rubio huh? Were you licking his asshole when he paid you that compliment?

Lets call a spade a spade. You're obviously an alt of a scared little bitch too afraid to post this nonsense on your main. Log into your "real" account and lets have a legitimate debate. The crap you spewed above is easily refuted; I literally debunked it in seconds. :oldlol:


When did I say that I was talking strictly offensively?

I stated that Kawhi is a better basketball player, period, and its true.

You must be so caught up on my opinion that you failed to correctly read through my post, instead choosing to quickly and incorrectly respond because you were agitated, nice fail.

I'm not an alt, either, this is my main account, I've posted a gif of myself dunking in another thread so please relax, I actually believe what I'm saying, it may seem like trolling because of my aggressive approach but it is what it is, keep crying!


I'm going to wait until the season ends to make that thread, and if the Spurs end up with a better record than the 86 Celtics you better believe its going down!

[Da_Realist]

Believe it or not the Sixers were also pretty bad in '96, only winning 18 games, Bulls played them 4 times that year. The Warriors won 67 games last year playing in one of the toughest conferences of all time, so I wouldn't discount this Warriors team winning 72 games in '96.

Like I said, the East wasn't very strong in '96, the Cavs were the #4 seed in the East that year winning 47 games with Terrell Brandon as their best player. The Clippers of today would have no problem handling that team.

Just like OKC with Durant/Wetbrook would have no problem handling the Pacers which was a team with basically 1 All-Star (Reggie) and a bunch of role players.

Shaq/Penny's Magic 4 times
Ewing's Knicks 4 times
Spurs, Jazz, Rockets, Sonics, Lakers, Blazers 2 times each
plus random losses

No way Warriors win 72 in 96. Too many teams would punish the paint against them. There is ONE team good enough to punish the Warriors in the paint and the Warriors have only played them twice all year. The next two times Pop will rest his starters.

[Lebron23]

Let's see in the playoffs.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

When did I say that I was talking strictly offensively?

The first post I quoted was one from you comparing their offensive outputs - both numbers AND skillset.

After I took apart your bullshit, you deflected to defense which is something I never would care to debate.


You must be so caught up on my opinion that you failed to correctly read through my post, instead choosing to quickly and incorrectly respond because you were agitated, nice fail.

Incorrect. Read above.


I'm not an alt, either, this is my main account, I've posted a gif of myself dunking in another thread so please relax, I actually believe what I'm saying, it may seem like trolling because of my aggressive approach but it is what it is, keep crying!

So you're just another dullard pretending to know anything about Bird...

:confusedshrug:

Try refuting what I've said regarding both players' volume and passing skillsets. This should be interesting. :lol

[guy]

Believe it or not the Sixers were also pretty bad in '96, only winning 18 games, Bulls played them 4 times that year. The Warriors won 67 games last year playing in one of the toughest conferences of all time, so I wouldn't discount this Warriors team winning 72 games in '96.

Like I said, the East wasn't very strong in '96, the Cavs were the #4 seed in the East that year winning 47 games with Terrell Brandon as their best player. The Clippers of today would have no problem handling that team.

Just like OKC with Durant/Wetbrook would have no problem handling the Pacers which was a team with basically 1 All-Star (Reggie) and a bunch of role players.

OKC might be the most overrated team ever. They are such an incredibly flawed team that basically gets by strictly on talent. Most elite or borderline elite teams that also play team ball would expose them for the ISO heavy game they play and beat them and that includes the 90s Pacers.

[sekachu]

Believe it or not the Sixers were also pretty bad in '96, only winning 18 games, Bulls played them 4 times that year. The Warriors won 67 games last year playing in one of the toughest conferences of all time, so I wouldn't discount this Warriors team winning 72 games in '96.

Like I said, the East wasn't very strong in '96, the Cavs were the #4 seed in the East that year winning 47 games with Terrell Brandon as their best player. The Clippers of today would have no problem handling that team.

Just like OKC with Durant/Wetbrook would have no problem handling the Pacers which was a team with basically 1 All-Star (Reggie) and a bunch of role players.



talent wise OKC is better but team chemisty Indiana is much better.
Team chemistry >>>> talent wise overall

[Kiddlovesnets]

Not so early yet, I have a feeling the Warriors will win 71-72 games. The Spurs will beat them twice, and they lost to Celtics, so no more than 72 wins.

[ballinhun8]

We still got a chance to keep it!

[Da_Realist]

Not so early yet, I have a feeling the Warriors will win 71-72 games. The Spurs will beat them twice, and they lost to Celtics, so no more than 72 wins.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15097371/tony-parker-thinks-gregg-popovich-rest-san-antonio-spurs-starters-vs-golden-state-warriors

[Hulk]

Looking real sloppy out there.Im hoping for Houston in the first round.

[PsychoBe]

Not so early yet, I have a feeling the Warriors will win 71-72 games. The Spurs will beat them twice, and they lost to Celtics, so no more than 72 wins.

i can guarantee you that pop will be resting players :facepalm

come on now common sense

[SaltyMeatballs]

Not so fast :oldlol:

2 more games vs Spurs. They might tie it

[SaltyMeatballs]

Looking real sloppy out there.Im hoping for Houston in the first round.
F that. I'd rather see Jazz vs Warriors to make it more interesting.

[dazzer87]

Not so fast :oldlol:

2 more games vs Spurs. They might tie it
pop will rest them in oakland and will play them at home (keep the record going for spurs at home)

[Da_Realist]

It's amazng what happens when a team commits to playing defense all night. Boston's offense sucks (too much one on one play) but they committed to defense and actually took a game from GS. This is the type of game that draws fans in, not the arcade-like 120 point outbursts where everyone is getting uncontested layups and wide open jump shots. It's not the points that matter (GS might as well have been the Harlem Globetrotters most of this season). It's the hustle, effort and competitive spirit on both ends that make the game exciting.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

pop will rest them in oakland and will play them at home (keep the record going for spurs at home)

This. Pop doesn't exactly want to just give them the record either. He's the same man that had everyone lock down George in the final minutes of the all-star game to uphold Wilt's record. Pop is a huge Jordan stan, so he won't let Warriors just get it that easily.

[Da_Realist]

This. Pop doesn't exactly want to just give them the record either. He's the same man that had everyone lock down George in the final minutes of the all-star game to uphold Wilt's record. Pop is a huge Jordan stan, so he won't let Warriors just get it that easily.

This overly friendly era sucks. So now you have to be a stan to give your all and be competitive. Pop and the Spurs may have enough pride to not "let" the Warriors walk in their building to set a record. Now it's newsworthy when a team won't "let" another team walk all over them. That should be the NORM.

[Jasper]

IT will quite funny to see the best regular season team in the history of the league , loss in the playoffs.

Dat dar will be funny :pimp:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

IT will quite funny to see the best regular season team in the history of the league , loss in the playoffs.

Dat dar will be funny :pimp:

:pimp:

[ArbitraryWater]

Duncan all time > Bird, IMO, but I would compare current Duncan more-so to Parish if anything at this point. He's still one of the best defenders in the game, though.

Duncan has regressed this season and Leonard has improved by leaps and bounds. Perhaps you should watch games before coming at me.

:facepalm

We know that, though, I'm astonished at your stupidity of calling Duncan the Spurs' best player a couple of months back... riddle me that. How did your brain work that day?

[Spurs5Rings2014]

We know that, though, I'm astonished at your stupidity of calling Duncan the Spurs' best player a couple of months back... riddle me that. How did your brain work that day?

Duncan was playing a lot better earlier in the season and hadn't missed as many games. I don't think I said that anyways, but whatever. How has your brain worked this whole time you've been here? You get styled on in every thread you post in about your pedestrian basketball knowledge and are the unanimous MVP of the 'Post the dumbest things you've heard said on InsideHoops' thread.

:oldlol:

[CuterThanRubio]

We still got a chance to keep it!

Who's we?

You've never accomplished anything basketball related in your life, please stop living vicariously through professional sports teams that have nothing to do with you.

Jeez, you consider yourself a part of that organization simply because you dedicated your entire forum persona to them>?

No wonder you were throwing a tantrum in my threads, I knew you were delusional but I didn't realize it was this bad.

Mentally handicapped.

Bow down!

[ballinhun8]

Who's we?

You've never accomplished anything basketball related in your life, please stop living vicariously through professional sports teams that have nothing to do with you.

Jeez, you consider yourself a part of that organization simply because you dedicated your entire forum persona to them>?

No wonder you were throwing a tantrum in my threads, I knew you were delusional but I didn't realize it was this bad.

Mentally handicapped.

Bow down!


Lmao


I wrote one sentence and you replied with 8 paragraphs. Relax bro.


How do you know I haven't accomplished anything basketball related in my life? You seem to be this new wave of poster that makes up these theories and facts about people on this message board like you know then personally. Hmmm sounds like that username henrygarfunkle that used to do that..... But he doesn't post here anymore.....

And throwing a tantrum in your threads? Wow, I simply said you know nothing about basketball which the majority of this board would agree with. Leonard . Bird says it all.


Now.......you can bow down :pimp:

[CuterThanRubio]

Lmao


I wrote one sentence and you replied with 8 paragraphs. Relax bro.


How do you know I haven't accomplished anything basketball related in my life? You seem to be this new wave of poster that makes up these theories and facts about people on this message board like you know then personally. Hmmm sounds like that username henrygarfunkle that used to do that..... But he doesn't post here anymore.....

And throwing a tantrum in your threads? Wow, I simply said you know nothing about basketball which the majority of this board would agree with. Leonard . Bird says it all.


Now.......you can bow down :pimp:

Henrygarfunkle is Simon, he still posts here you dumbass lol, you guys are so mindfvcked, its unbelievable!

We both know DAMN WELL you have never accomplished anything involving basketball in your life, your response VIVIDLY illustrates that. I bet you couldn't even hit a jumper if you went to the park right now, yet you want to use possessive pronouns when it comes to the 96 Bulls LMAO!!!


My Leonard>Bird claim is supported with FACTS and STATS, you can't deny it, you can disagree but those numbers are set in stone.

I got you on strings, son!

[Da_Realist]

Pippen:

1) 96 Bulls would sweep 16 Warriors
2) He would hold Curry to under 20 points

http://www.totalprosports.com/2016/04/02/scottie-pippen-says-1995-96-bulls-would-sweep-the-2015-16-warriors-in-a-7-game-series-video/

[GrapeApe]

Pippen:

1) 96 Bulls would sweep 16 Warriors
2) He would hold Curry to under 20 points

http://www.totalprosports.com/2016/04/02/scottie-pippen-says-1995-96-bulls-would-sweep-the-2015-16-warriors-in-a-7-game-series-video/

No they wouldn't and no he wouldn't. I'm worried about Pippen. He's too young for dementia to be setting in. The Bulls would win the series though.

[CelticBaller]

http://media.giphy.com/media/eZuZHWNoyzmXm/giphy.gif

[Spurs m8]

let's base everything on the reg season guys....top intelligence here...

[Stormtrooper]

let's base everything on the reg season guys....top intelligence here...

Fuming:roll:

[CelticBaller]

You are a stupid person, hey?

The Spurs shut GS players down.

Kept the losers to 79 points :roll:

Spurs didn't play great either and still clowned the GS clowns.

GS played bad for a reason, the Spurs were fckn owning them!!

And they will continue to do so.....Curry looked like a scared kid and Gaymond looked like the weak dog pu$$y he is
>Talks shit after a regular season win
> loses the series 3-1
>says regular season doesn't matter

http://media.giphy.com/media/eZuZHWNoyzmXm/giphy.gif

[CuterThanRubio]

It's All Over Baby!

2016 Warriors Best Regular Season Team Ever!

I Love It

[deja vu]

How long do you think it will be broken?

10 years?

20 years?

[CelticBaller]

Leonard = Bird (Bird nastier offensively, Leonard just as nasty if not more nasty defensively compared to Bird's offense and Leonard's offense is still great with excellent shooting, efficiency, post play, clutchness, etc)
Aldridge < McHale (McHale was a beast, Aldridge not far off with his elite defense as well)
Duncan > Parish (Duncan is one of the best defenders in the entire league this season)

Even if you wanted to give the edge to Boston, it's not like it ain't close. We have one of the best front courts (and front court rotation) of all time this season.

:rockon:

Because Spurs aren't improved also, you retard? Best record in franchise history, added Aldridge, West, etc in off season. Like I said, bookmarked. Leave the site when I bump this in June.

:oldlol:

You are a stupid person, hey?

The Spurs shut GS players down.

Kept the losers to 79 points :roll:

Spurs didn't play great either and still clowned the GS clowns.

GS played bad for a reason, the Spurs were fckn owning them!!

And they will continue to do so.....Curry looked like a scared kid and Gaymond looked like the weak dog pu$$y he is

...that disrespect to the Spurs...
http://media.giphy.com/media/eZuZHWNoyzmXm/giphy.gif

[Im Still Ballin]

Phuckin' Spurs homers

[oh the horror]

We still talking about that team 20 years later.



You'll never escape them. :oldlol:

[Klayup]

let's base everything on the reg season guys....top intelligence here...
Ouch...

[deja vu]

Let's see if the Warriors can avoid becoming the NBA version of the '07 Patriots.

[sportjames23]

OP...

http://replygif.net/i/1249.gif

[SpaceJam]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce0bdUGWEAAnU5d.jpg

[fourkicks44]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce0bdUGWEAAnU5d.jpg

Damn! :lol

Turns out them Bulls were aight.

[Sarcastic]

Warriors can still win the ring, and not go out like the Patriots as best team to not win it all.

[ClipperRevival]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce0bdUGWEAAnU5d.jpg

Damn.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

1972 Dolphins > 2007 Patriots

1996 Bulls > 2016 Warriors

Gotta win the championship or else the season is worthless.

[Goldrush25]

This thread demonstrates why the Las Vegas strip is stacked to the gills with those spectacular casinos.

There are no locks in sports. When you think a bet can't lose, you should be worried.

[CelticBaller]

:applause:

[Da_Realist]

One more loss and this season will be as valuable as a penny with a hole in it. NBA TV has already created a show called the "Golden Season". It will be cringeworthy if they get taken to the cleaners by the Thunder. Especially those Feb 27 highlights of Curry nailing that 30 footer to win at Chesapeake Arena.

But what a nice addition to the Thunder championship video if they avenge that loss in historically brutal fashion.

[SamuraiSWISH]

One more loss and this season will be as valuable as a penny with a hole in it. NBA TV has already created a show called the "Golden Season". It will be cringeworthy if they get taken to the cleaners by the Thunder. Especially those Feb 27 highlights of Curry nailing that 30 footer to win at Chesapeake Arena.

But what a nice addition to the Thunder championship video if they avenge that loss in historically brutal fashion.
It will go from championship video to a 30 for 30, REAL QUICK

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The playoffs trump all...and from the looks of it, Golden State came up short. Wayyy short.

Even if they do comeback from this 3-1 deficit, they've already proven not to be on Chicago's level...in any way, shape or form.

[Da_Realist]

Regular season games and a 7 game playoff series are two very different beast.

:applause:

[Da_Realist]

What an interesting read :oldlol:

So many exposed for not knowing what the hell they're talking about. Lol at I'm Still Ballin. Props to Smoke117.

[ballinhun8]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce0bdUGWEAAnU5d.jpg




Truth!

[Shaquille O'Neal]

My question is this - Chicago played a "best of 5" in the first round IIRC, right?

So what is the best full season + playoff record of all time?
I think the 96 bulls lost twice in the finals, but I thought they did ok that year in the east.

Can anyone look this up for the lazy (me?)

[Smoke117]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce0bdUGWEAAnU5d.jpg

:roll: Exactly...just as I was saying.

[Poetry]

My question is this - Chicago played a "best of 5" in the first round IIRC, right?

So what is the best full season + playoff record of all time?
I think the 96 bulls lost twice in the finals, but I thought they did ok that year in the east.

Can anyone look this up for the lazy (me?)

I posted this yesterday.

"1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)"

[Shaquille O'Neal]

I posted this yesterday.

"1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)"

Wow. So, 1995/96 Bulls still the undisputed GOAT team period then.

[Lebron23]

Bye Bye 15-16 Warriors

[SamuraiSWISH]

Bye Bye 15-16 Warriors
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[97 bulls]

I never knew why the regular season record was such a big deal anyway. The Lakers have the best playoffs record at 15-1. The Warriors have the best regular season record at 73-9. And the Bulls have the best overall (combined ) record at 87-13. You can't just dismiss the playoffs

[KelticForce1349]

Truth!


Scottie!!!!!!! What a phucking awesome Basketball player Mr. Pippen was!

BTW: I have nothing against this Warriors team at all. I think they are a great team and have been very exciting to watch play. I still have a soft spot for Steve kerr as bright guy with a self-effacing sense of humor and a very important piece of the 95/96 Bulls team.

On the other hand....I think Kerr knew deep down he should have NOT broken the record. I guarantee you he would have forced his guys to sit if not for the fact he believed that not being allowed to break the record would cause a rift with the players that would have eventually cost him his coaching job.

Jordan is the most ruthlessly competitive athlete EVER. So competitive that he is just about a psychopath when it comes to winning. If MJ played a game of hide-and-seek with a five year old child, I could see him slitting the kids throat just to win.

Ha ha, he he, I found you Michael!!

No you didn't kid!!!! ....slices the poor kids jugular. :wtf:

I honestly would not doubt for one second if Jordan found a way to put a curse on this Warriors team for breaking the regular season record. Seriously.

Don't fu(k with Micael Jordan. Seriously.

[zizozain]

Bye Bye 15-16 Warriors


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[Sarcastic]

Hi

[sportjames23]

Hi

Was looking for this thread. :cheers:




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