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Derivative
03-31-2016, 09:23 PM
(Bold means league leading)

Prime KG
PPG: 24.2
RPG: 13.9
APG: 5.0
SPG: 1.5
BPG: 2.2
FG%: 49.9%
PER: 29.4
Winshare: 18.3

Prime Kobe
PPG: 35.4
RPG: 5.3
APG: 4.5
SPG: 1.8
BPG: 0.4
FG% 45.0%
PER: 28.0
Winshare: 15.3


Who would you take on your team?

Dray n Klay
03-31-2016, 09:26 PM
KG


In fact, current KG is not too far from prime Kobe tbh, especially defensively

Nilocon165
03-31-2016, 09:27 PM
Kobe.

Nilocon165
03-31-2016, 09:28 PM
KG


In fact, current KG is not too far from prime Kobe tbh, especially defensively
Lmao stop

qrich
03-31-2016, 09:36 PM
Know this will be a troll infested thread, but KG quite easily.

CAstill
03-31-2016, 09:47 PM
Stop this nonsense even KG would pick Kobe :roll:

KG can fill up a stat sheet because he's so versatile he fills a lot of holes and accumulates stats. Kobe on the other hand is the play maker and shot maker that will make the difference for a championship.

Cold soul
03-31-2016, 09:53 PM
Kobe pretty easily here KG can't carry teams as well especially on offense.

stalkerforlife
03-31-2016, 09:54 PM
lol

warriorfan
03-31-2016, 09:55 PM
Kobe

Prime KG's PLAYOFF stats are underwhelming

Lebronxrings
03-31-2016, 09:56 PM
Prime kobe was never as good as prime KG. KG carried a franchise on his back, kobe rode on it.

Dray n Klay
03-31-2016, 10:01 PM
Prime kobe was never as good as prime KG. KG carried a franchise on his back, kobe rode on it.

Ayyy diggin the avi fam :banana:

Lebronxrings
03-31-2016, 10:03 PM
Ayyy diggin the avi fam :banana:
:banana:

we stay winning.

fiddy
03-31-2016, 10:10 PM
:banana:

we stay winning.
Winning Ls? Someone needs to invent a cure for denial

feyki
04-01-2016, 10:18 AM
I do pick 04 Garnett over 06 Kobe . But 08,09 and 01 Kobe were as good as 04 KG .

TYCRO
04-01-2016, 10:28 AM
KG


In fact, current KG is not too far from prime Kobe tbh, especially defensively
The bold is arguably accurate. Nothing else in that post is.

Gileraracer
04-01-2016, 10:42 AM
Both over LeCollude all day erry day

ISHGoat
04-01-2016, 10:44 AM
KG by far. Anyone that takes kobe has very low basketball IQ.

JebronLames
04-01-2016, 10:48 AM
KG by a very wide margin. Kobe would have 0 finals MVPs if it werent for KG's injury and refs.

aj1987
04-01-2016, 11:04 AM
Both over LeCollude all day erry day
Holy shit, you're obsessed with LeBron.

Gileraracer
04-01-2016, 11:13 AM
Holy shit, you're obsessed with LeBron.

Got to fit the agenda

MMM
04-01-2016, 11:14 AM
its obvious who i'm going with just a shame that KG's prime was wasted in Minny

JohnnySic
04-01-2016, 11:41 AM
KG


In fact, current KG is not too far from prime Kobe tbh, especially defensively
http://i.imgur.com/hzWr5Tm.gif

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-01-2016, 11:45 AM
Cant go wrong with either depends what u value. Both top 10 primes of alltime

aj1987
04-01-2016, 12:10 PM
Cant go wrong with either depends what u value. Both top 10 primes of alltime

MJ
Shaq
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Russell
Kobe
Hakeem
Moses
Dr. J
Duncan
Malone
LeBron

All had better primes. I'm pretty sure that I'm forgetting a couple of names as well.

SouBeachTalents
04-01-2016, 12:13 PM
MJ
Shaq
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Russell
Kobe
Hakeem
Moses
Dr. J
Duncan
Malone
LeBron

All had better primes. I'm pretty sure that I'm forgetting a couple of names as well.

How about Oscar, Barkley, & Robinson?

aj1987
04-01-2016, 12:15 PM
How about Oscar, Barkley, & Robinson?
Robinson is better as well. Oscar is debatable. KG is pretty much as good a rebounder and playmaker as Barkely, but is miles ahead as a defender.

TYCRO
04-01-2016, 12:26 PM
Robinson is better as well. Oscar is debatable. KG is pretty much as good a rebounder and playmaker as Barkely, but is miles ahead as a defender.
I still take Chuck. I also think Chuck would be better in modern basketball.

Quickening
04-01-2016, 12:28 PM
KG was a far better defender, Kobe was a liability a lot of the time on the defensive end of the floor.

KG at his peak> Kobe.

aj1987
04-01-2016, 12:38 PM
I still take Chuck. I also think Chuck would be better in modern basketball.
KG wouldn't? Dude would score, rebound, assist, and to top it all of, he was a DPOY. Chuck, at best, was an average defender.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-01-2016, 01:24 PM
MJ
Shaq
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Russell
Kobe
Hakeem
Moses
Dr. J
Duncan
Malone
LeBron

All had better primes. I'm pretty sure that I'm forgetting a couple of names as well.

DrJ, Malones and Bran didnt have better primes

aj1987
04-01-2016, 01:32 PM
DrJ, Malones and Bran didnt have better primes
:oldlol: :oldlol:

Yeah, ok.

bizil
04-01-2016, 03:00 PM
Kobe pretty easily here KG can't carry teams as well especially on offense.

I agree! Kobe was as alpha dog as u could get. PLUS the Mamba was an EPIC all around player as well. When u have that combination (guys like MJ, Mamba, Bird, etc.), its hard to top. In the all around sense, KG is arguably the best PF of all time. BUT in terms of carrying a team scoring wise, he wasn't on the level of guys like a Kobe. If KG was close to the scoring mindset of a Barkley, Mailman, or Hayes, he would be the best PF of all time FLAT OUT peak wise.

CP3PO
04-01-2016, 03:15 PM
Give me 2004 KG over peak Kobe, but give me Kobe's best 6 year stretch over KG's.

Lebron23
04-01-2016, 03:16 PM
Kevin Garnett

feyki
04-01-2016, 03:21 PM
I agree! Kobe was as alpha dog as u could get. PLUS the Mamba was an EPIC all around player as well. When u have that combination (guys like MJ, Mamba, Bird, etc.), its hard to top. In the all around sense, KG is arguably the best PF of all time. BUT in terms of carrying a team scoring wise, he wasn't on the level of guys like a Kobe. If KG was close to the scoring mindset of a Barkley, Mailman, or Hayes, he would be the best PF of all time FLAT OUT peak wise.

I agree with all , but Hayes ? . Elvin Hayes was worse scorer than KG in their primes .

bizil
04-01-2016, 03:30 PM
Give me 2004 KG over peak Kobe, but give me Kobe's best 6 year stretch over KG's.

KG's 2004 season was BEAST!!! 24 pts, 14 boards, and 5 dimes a night. Plus providing world class defense which was capable of defending big swingmen to center. And did all this at 7'0!! I think KG and Bron are the two most unique players in NBA history. KG for the bigs, Bron for the perimeter.

ArbitraryWater
04-01-2016, 03:32 PM
I do pick 04 Garnett over 06 Kobe . But 08,09 and 01 Kobe were as good as 04 KG .

ummmmmmmmmmmmm :facepalm

bizil
04-01-2016, 03:33 PM
I agree with all , but Hayes ? . Elvin Hayes was worse scorer than KG in their primes .

My point was Hayes had that ALPHA MENTALITY!! But Hayes was a black hole often times. And he wasn't as efficient as the other great scoring bigs. However, Hayes put up great scoring numbers and was ALPHA as hell. Don't get me wrong, I think KG was the better player peak and GOAT wise.

CP3PO
04-01-2016, 03:35 PM
I do pick 04 Garnett over 06 Kobe . But 08,09 and 01 Kobe were as good as 04 KG .
:roll:

Akrazotile
04-01-2016, 03:48 PM
How about Oscar, Barkley, & Robinson?


All of them over Kobe. Easily.

feyki
04-01-2016, 03:52 PM
My point was Hayes had that ALPHA MENTALITY!! But Hayes was a black hole often times. And he wasn't as efficient as the other great scoring bigs. However, Hayes put up great scoring numbers and was ALPHA as hell. Don't get me wrong, I think KG was the better player peak and GOAT wise.

Maybe i'm the only one but Wes Unseld seems their leader to me . Yes , he didn't many scores nor dominate the ball but his playmaking,rebounding and leadership abilities made his teams at the top . You know , Wes did get his team to the finals before Elvin . And Elvin was Dantley-like player before Wes .

Yes , Elvin was solid scorer and beast defensive player . I think Elvin and Garnett two greatest defensive PF's after Duncan of all time .

But clutchness,leadership ? No , i can't see those in Elvin .

Scoring wise , he was solid . But he was far from to Karl,Barkley,Dirk group too .

bizil
04-01-2016, 04:20 PM
Maybe i'm the only one but Wes Unseld seems their leader to me . Yes , he didn't many scores nor dominate the ball but his playmaking,rebounding and leadership abilities made his teams at the top . You know , Wes did get his team to the finals before Elvin . And Elvin was Dantley-like player before Wes .

Yes , Elvin was solid scorer and beast defensive player . I think Elvin and Garnett two greatest defensive PF's after Duncan of all time .

But clutchness,leadership ? No , i can't see those in Elvin .

Scoring wise , he was solid . But he was far from to Karl,Barkley,Dirk group too .

In terms of locker room leader, Wes WAS THE LEADER!! When I say alpha dog, I mean great scoring ability that can carry a team. Hayes was EASILY that type of player. And for u to call Hayes ONLY a solid scorer is LAUGHABLE!! I prefer Mailman, Barkley, and Dirk scoring wise over Hayes. But ITS DUE to the nature of Hayes scoring. Production wise, he was a great scorer.

feyki
04-01-2016, 05:12 PM
In terms of locker room leader, Wes WAS THE LEADER!! When I say alpha dog, I mean great scoring ability that can carry a team. Hayes was EASILY that type of player. And for u to call Hayes ONLY a solid scorer is LAUGHABLE!! I prefer Mailman, Barkley, and Dirk scoring wise over Hayes. But ITS DUE to the nature of Hayes scoring. Production wise, he was a great scorer.

I see .

I meant he wasn't Barkley-Karl-Dirk level scorer . I did use the solid cause mentions great raise him to the top . Top is builds with Karl-Barkley-Dirk and also Elgin and Pettit as well in that aspect of the game .

TheMarkMadsen
04-01-2016, 05:43 PM
I agree! Kobe was as alpha dog as u could get. PLUS the Mamba was an EPIC all around player as well. When u have that combination (guys like MJ, Mamba, Bird, etc.), its hard to top. In the all around sense, KG is arguably the best PF of all time. BUT in terms of carrying a team scoring wise, he wasn't on the level of guys like a Kobe. If KG was close to the scoring mindset of a Barkley, Mailman, or Hayes, he would be the best PF of all time FLAT OUT peak wise.


great post. KG was great, really gets underrated.