The Suns are the real 2007 NBA champs...Duncan's ring is worthless.

[stalkerforlife]

The NBA suspending Amare and Diaw for the pivotal game 5 cost the Suns the series.

All because of Horry's hockey-style check on Nash.

Amare in the games before the BS suspension...20/18, 27/9, 21/5, 26/9.

Never forget that the NBA stole a ring from the Suns and gave one to Duncan.

[SouBeachTalents]

https://northeastcollegehoops.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/kobe-bryant-game-6-2002.jpg

[Nilocon165]

https://northeastcollegehoops.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/kobe-bryant-game-6-2002.jpg
Clicked on this thread just to bring this series up.

It baffles me how you say lebron has fake titles yet refuse to say anything about this one.

[Spurs m8]

History says otherwise tbh

Eat a bag of diks

[stalkerforlife]

Clicked on this thread just to bring this series up.

It baffles me how you say lebron has fake titles yet refuse to say anything about this one.

Queens choked.

[Nilocon165]

Queens choked.
The refs admitted to rigging the game. What is wrong with you?

[stalkerforlife]

The refs admitted to rigging the game. What is wrong with you?

:biggums:

[Nilocon165]

:biggums:
Do your research

https://youtu.be/qjRcTiwVEwo

[raprap]

Thread backfire :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Do your research

What happened in game 7?

Plenty of games have been officiated poorly.

Game 6 didn't end that series.

Why didn't the Queens win game 7?

[Nilocon165]

What happened in game 7?

Plenty of games have been officiated poorly.

Game 6 didn't end that series.

Why didn't the Queens win game 7?
https://youtu.be/qjRcTiwVEwo

They shouldn't have had to

[stalkerforlife]

The Queens choked away game 7 at home by going 16-30 from the FT line.

That's the end of the story.

[T_L_P]

What happened in game 7?

Plenty of games have been officiated poorly.
Game 6 didn't end that series.

Why didn't the Queens win game 7?

What happened in game 6 of the Suns series when Diaw and Amare were back and Horry was still out?

Game 5 didn't end that series.


Why didn't the Suns win game 6?

[Nilocon165]

The Queens choked away game 7 at home by going 16-30 from the FT line.

That's the end of the story.
I like Kobe but you are exposing your own stupidity right now.

Refs rigged game 6.

Kobe and Shaq BARELY won with as much ref help as possible

That's the end of the story.

[stalkerforlife]

What happened in game 6 of the Suns series when Diaw and Amare were back and Horry was still out?

Game 5 didn't end that series.


Why didn't the Suns win game 6?

Makes no sense.

The Queens didn't have their superstar player taken out of an entire game along with his backup.

The Queens played game 7 at HOME.

The Spurs won game 5 (When Amare and Diaw were suspended) by THREE POINTS. Suns EASILY win game 5 with them.

Spurs played game 6 at AT HOME.

Go to sleep.

[GrapeApe]

First of all, it was only the WCSF. Second of all, game 5 wasn't even an elimination game. You can't say a team was robbed of a title because of something that happened in a non-elimination game in the second round. There's no guarantee the Suns win another game in the series, then the WCF, then the finals. You are literally giving them 9 more wins.

It's the same as when people say the Bulls were robbed of a title in 1994 because of the phantom foul in the ECSF. It's ridiculous.

[Lebronxrings]

Justin...

[stalkerforlife]

First of all, it was only the WCSF. Second of all, game 5 wasn't even an elimination game. You can't say a team was robbed of a title because of something that happened in a non-elimination game in the second round. There's no guarantee the Suns win another game in the series, then the WCF, then the finals. You are literally giving them 9 more wins.

It's the same as when people say the Bulls were robbed of a title in 1994 because of the phantom foul in the ECSF. It's ridiculous.

Stopped reading.

You must be a teenager.

Everyone knew the winner of that series wins the title. Suns would've crushed the Jazz and Cavs.

Night night.

[Smoke117]

meltdown

[LAZERUSS]

The refs admitted to rigging the game. What is wrong with you?

No more than they rigged game five...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200205280SAC.html

And all you need to know about that game five...

Shaq averaged 11 FTAs per game in the other six games of that series...and in that game five... ONE FTA.

The officiating was every bit as one-sided in that game five, as would be in game six.

[GrapeApe]

Stopped reading.

You must be a teenager.

Everyone knew the winner of that series wins the title. Suns would've crushed the Jazz and Cavs.

Night night.

You call me a teenager but you're the one who sounds like a 15 year old.

Maybe the Suns would have won the title, but there are no certainties in sports. By your logic the favorite always wins, and we all know that's not the case. There's no guarantee the Suns even win that series, much less the title. It's absolutely absurd to say a team was "robbed of a title" when they still had to win 3 series.

[kamil]

https://youtu.be/qjRcTiwVEwo

They shouldn't have had to

Lakers should have their 2002 championship revoked.

[Spurs m8]

http://nbahoopsonline.com/teams/SanAntonioSpurs/History/Championships/Spursring07.jpg

[feyki]

2002,2006,2007 and 2012 ( don't forget " sorry celtics fans" bs ) . Also 1998 but i have seen that from tapes .

[ArbitraryWater]

You call me a teenager but you're the one who sounds like a 15 year old.

Maybe the Suns would have won the title, but there are no certainties in sports. By your logic the favorite always wins, and we all know that's not the case. There's no guarantee the Suns even win that series, much less the title. It's absolutely absurd to say a team was "robbed of a title" when they still had to win 3 series.

Nah, the winner definitely would have won the title..... Jazz and Cavs? Cmon now....

--

btw, no refs from the '02 game admitted it was rigged...

Donaghy said it was, but he didnt ref it.

[nba_55]

Nah, the winner definitely would have won the title..... Jazz and Cavs? Cmon now....

--

btw, no refs from the '02 game admitted it was rigged...

Donaghy said it was, but he didnt ref it.

Anyone with eyes could see the obvious rigging.

[Genaro]

Nah, the winner definitely would have won the title..... Jazz and Cavs? Cmon now....

--

btw, no refs from the '02 game admitted it was rigged...

Donaghy said it was, but he didnt ref it.
This.



No more than they rigged game five...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200205280SAC.html

And all you need to know about that game five...

Shaq averaged 11 FTAs per game in the other six games of that series...and in that game five... ONE FTA.

The officiating was every bit as one-sided in that game five, as would be in game six.
Yeah. This game 5 isn't mentioned cause the Lakers won the series but it was bad referred as shit. Kobe and Shaq on foul trouble the whole game, Shaq not getting any FTs and the final 2 plays witch were dubious to say the least. First Bibby pushes Fisher to make the go ahead basket (eventually game winner) then Kobe is clearly fouled on a jumper and the game ends.
The fact is: NBA knew Finals against the East champion would be just a formality so they made sure the series went to 7.

[GreatHILL]

the san antonio sperms are the biggest cheaters in the nba history the only good thing about them is their coach

[JBSptfn]

The Queens choked away game 7 at home by going 16-30 from the FT line.

That's the end of the story.

While the refs helped the Lakers, the Sacramento FT fail doesn't get mentioned enough. I think that Bill "pop culture god" Simmons said something at the time about how everyone but Bibby looked scared to death.

As for the OP, though, I am with you, but the Suns could have won game 5 anyway. If they win that, I think they win the series in seven games at home.

[Fudge]

Meltdown lol.

[rmt]

All I can say is that Duncan had a monster series:

26.8 pts 13.7 rebs 1.2 asst 4.2 blks 57.3%FG

[CuterThanRubio]

I remember watching the Suns stomp the Cavs in Cleveland on TNT that year, no doubt in my mind they would have swept them just like the Spurs did.

I'm glad my claims of suspicious reffing were validated when Tim Donaghy came forward, I just knew something was up with that series.

Stoked that David Stern is gone, he was the worst!

[GreatHILL]

I remember watching the Suns stomp the Cavs in Cleveland on TNT that year, no doubt in my mind they would have swept them just like the Spurs did.

I'm glad my claims of suspicious reffing were validated when Tim Donaghy came forward, I just knew something was up with that series.

Stoked that David Stern is gone, he was the worst!

david fuccin stern had a lot of money under the table from the spurs

[ralph_i_el]

Makes no sense.

The Queens didn't have their superstar player taken out of an entire game along with his backup.

The Queens played game 7 at HOME.

The Spurs won game 5 (When Amare and Diaw were suspended) by THREE POINTS. Suns EASILY win game 5 with them.

Spurs played game 6 at AT HOME.

Go to sleep.

You are one of the most aggressively stupid people on the entire internet.

You are the Donald Trump of talking about basketball, minus any success in any other facet of life.

[Noyze]

The NBA suspending Amare and Diaw for the pivotal game 5 cost the Suns the series.

All because of Horry's hockey-style check on Nash.

Amare in the games before the BS suspension...20/18, 27/9, 21/5, 26/9.

Never forget that the NBA stole a ring from the Suns and gave one to Duncan.

What a ****ing crybaby. That's the way these things go

I can also say "if Garnett had been healthy in 09 then the Lakers would have faced the C's in the finals instead of the Magic. They most certainly would have lost"

If Perkin's hadn't have went down in game 7 2010
If the Ref's wouldn't have stole game 6 2002 against the Kings
If Rasheed had hit that turnaround in the 4th of game 7 2000

I have a bullshit counter to to your bullshit argument.

[ShawkFactory]

You are one of the most aggressively stupid people on the entire internet.

You are the Donald Trump of talking about basketball, minus any success in any other facet of life.
Perfect analogy

[SouBeachTalents]

You are one of the most aggressively stupid people on the entire internet.

You are the Donald Trump of talking about basketball, minus any success in any other facet of life.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Kevin-Garnett-Reaction-at-2013-Dunk-Contest.gif

[Spurs5Rings2014]

What a ****ing crybaby. That's the way these things go

I can also say "if Garnett had been healthy in 09 then the Lakers would have faced the C's in the finals instead of the Magic. They most certainly would have lost"

If Perkin's hadn't have went down in game 7 2010
If the Ref's wouldn't have stole game 6 2002 against the Kings
If Rasheed had hit that turnaround in the 4th of game 7 2000

I have a bullshit counter to to your bullshit argument.

Kobe has only 1 legit ring and it's sidekick.

:oldlol:

[IllegalD]

Kobe has only 1 legit ring and it's sidekick.

:oldlol:


Meanwhile Duncan't has been racking up roleplayer rings for over a decade. :lol

[Dray n Klay]

Meanwhile Duncan't has been racking up roleplayer rings for over a decade. :lol

And Kobe was a Role player in 2000, 2001, 2010 so what?? :lol

[IllegalD]

And Kobe was a Role player in 2000, 2001, 2010 so what?? :lol

Post the stats to back up your claim. :cheers: (FULL playoff stats. Not cherry picked single series stats)

[Dray n Klay]

Post the stats to back up your claim. :cheers: (FULL playoff stats. Not cherry picked single series stats)

2000: Shaq was better (Kobe averaged a pathetic 15ppg in the Finals)

2001: Averaged 24ppg in the Finals, allowed A.I to dominate him

2010: shot 6/24, got outplayed by Pau Gasol

:confusedshrug:

[IllegalD]

2000: Shaq was better (Kobe averaged a pathetic 15ppg in the Finals)

2001: Averaged 24ppg in the Finals, allowed A.I to dominate him

2010: shot 6/24, got outplayed by Pau Gasol

:confusedshrug:


And you did exactly what I predicted you would do. :lol

MELT

DOWN.

Wut a time. Kobe Fam absolutely mind-raped little boy Simon to the point where he had to drop out of school and will live with his mom into his 50s. :roll:

[rmt]

Meanwhile Duncan't has been racking up roleplayer rings for over a decade. :lol


Post the stats to back up your claim. :cheers: (FULL playoff stats. Not cherry picked single series stats)


Here are some non-cherry picked stats for you:

2006-07 playoffs

Duncan 22.2 pts 11.5 rebs 3.3 asst 3.1 blks 52.1% FG 111 ORtg 98 DRtg 3.3 WS 7.2 BPM 1.7 VORP

Parker 20.8 pts 5.8 asst 48% FG 103 ORtg 107 DRtg 1.6 WS 0.5 BPM 0.5 VORP

That's some role-player for you. We should all wish we had role players like that. Who is the one who cherry picks single series stats? Here's some more:

2013-14 playoffs

Duncan 16.3 pts 9.2 rebs 2 asst 1.3 blks 52.3% FG 120 ORtg 104 DRtg 3.2 WS 4.4 BPM 1.2 VORP
Parker 17.4 pts 4.8 asst 48.6% FG 103 ORtg 109 DRtg 1.1 WS -1.2 BPM 0.1 VORP
Leonard 14.3 pts 6.7 rebs 1.7 asst 1.7 stl 51% FG 119 ORtg 101 DRtg 2.9 WS 6.6 BPM 1.6 VORP

[IllegalD]

Here are some non-cherry picked stats for you:

Duncan 2006-07 playoffs
22.2 pts 11.5 rebs 3.3 asst 3.1 blks 52.1% FG 111 ORtg 98 DRtg 3.3 WS 7.2 BPM 1.7 VORP

That's some role-player for you. We should all wish we had role players like that.

Funny how you failed to include stats from the most recent chip... :D

[Lebronxrings]

And you did exactly what I predicted you would do. :lol

MELT

DOWN.

Wut a time. Kobe Fam absolutely mind-raped little boy Simon to the point where he had to drop out of school and will live with his mom into his 50s. :roll:
you are one sad little demented boy aren't you simon. Your idol is a role player, deal with it you loser.

[PWB15]

If I recall the Kings did have a 9 pt lead in the second half of Game 7 so I;m guessing sh*tty coaching cost the kings a trip to the Finals

[IllegalD]

you are one sad little demented boy aren't you simon. Your idol is a role player, deal with it you loser.


I agree with everything you just said. Except I'm not Simon, cheers. :cheers:

[Dray n Klay]

you are one sad little demented boy aren't you simon. Your idol is a role player, deal with it you loser.

:lol :roll:


Damn, IllegallysmallD ethered :lol

[PWB15]

And Kobe was a Role player in 2000, 2001, 2010 so what?? :lol


How the **** was he a role player in 2010?

[rmt]

Funny how you failed to include stats from the most recent chip... :D

Was in the middle of adding 2014. I'll repost here too:

2013-14 playoffs

Duncan 16.3 pts 9.2 rebs 2 asst 1.3 blks 52.3% FG 120 ORtg 104 DRtg 3.2 WS 4.4 BPM 1.2 VORP
Parker 17.4 pts 4.8 asst 48.6% FG 103 ORtg 109 DRtg 1.1 WS -1.2 BPM 0.1 VORP
Leonard 14.3 pts 6.7 rebs 1.7 asst 1.7 stl 51% FG 119 ORtg 101 DRtg 2.9 WS 6.6 BPM 1.6 VORP

Some role player, huh?

[IllegalD]

Was in the middle of adding 2014. I'll repost here too:

2013-14 playoffs

Duncan 16.3 pts 9.2 rebs 2 asst 1.3 blks 52.3% FG 120 ORtg 104 DRtg 3.2 WS 4.4 BPM 1.2 VORP
Parker 17.4 pts 4.8 asst 48.6% FG 103 ORtg 109 DRtg 1.1 WS -1.2 BPM 0.1 VORP
Leonard 14.3 pts 6.7 rebs 1.7 asst 1.7 stl 51% FG 119 ORtg 101 DRtg 2.9 WS 6.6 BPM 1.6 VORP

Some role player, huh?

No all-star selection in 2014 :confusedshrug:

If he's not an allstar then what is he...? ROLEPLAYER

[rmt]

No all-star selection in 2014 :confusedshrug:

If he's not an allstar then what is he...? ROLEPLAYER

Talk about moving the goal posts. You are the one who called Duncan a role-player in his championships for over a decade. I posted FULL playoff stats which proved he was not a role player. Now, you're suggesting that if a player isn't an all-star, he's a role player. I guess Damian Lillard (25.1 pts 6.8 asst) is a role player too because he wasn't an all-star this year.

[rmt]

And just for good measure:

Duncan 2006-07
All-NBA 1st team
All-Defensive 1st team
All-Star
4th in MVP voting

Some role player.

[Lebronxrings]

tim duncan is one of the most under appreciated players in basketball history. Show him some respect kobe stans. :banghead:

[TYCRO]

https://northeastcollegehoops.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/kobe-bryant-game-6-2002.jpg
:applause:

[TYCRO]

OP got owned hard in this thread :oldlol:

[Showtime2001]

And just for good measure:

Duncan 2006-07
All-NBA 1st team
All-Defensive 1st team
All-Star
4th in MVP voting

Some role player.
I know right?

http://s15.postimg.org/i9om0vg23/kobe.png