Smoking Weed Makes You a Loser, Says New Study

[Im Still Ballin]

[QUOTE]The report from researchers at UC Davis and Duke University report claims that the more you toke, the more likely you are to be broke

[nathanjizzle]

its true, i use to be a provider and stoners are more likely to be underachievers. that was back then when we used to be friends.

[Dresta]

Well, if you're sitting on your ass, playing video games, and spending thousands of bucks a year on weed, then no shit.

[Im Still Ballin]

Laughing at all the pothead comments on facebook

"Nah bro joe rogan blazes and he's successful and shit"

"Obama blazed bro"

[christian1923]

Some people can handle it, others can't.

[fiddy]

Laughing at all the pothead comments on facebook

"Nah bro joe rogan blazes and he's successful and shit"

"Obama blazed bro"
:facepalm

[navy]

Obvious

[UK2K]

People who buy enough weed to smoke every day are more likely to have financial problems then people who don't?

Whaaaaaat?

Game changing research right there.

[ILLsmak]

I agree, if you start smoking weed at birth and do it 4+ times a week until you are 38, you probably will have problems.

The sad part about these studies is that you can't isolate a variable like weed. The most you can really say is "a lot of losers in NZ smoke weed." Which is prol true.

1000 people in NZ tho.

-Smak

[DonDadda59]

Being Im Still Ballin makes you a snitch, says Insidehoops.

[Im Still Ballin]

Being Im Still Ballin makes you a snitch, says Insidehoops.
*WHISTLE*

Illegal Defense!

It is against the rules to double off the ball and play a zone

[DeuceWallaces]

I agree, if you start smoking weed at birth and do it 4+ times a week until you are 38, you probably will have problems.

The sad part about these studies is that you can't isolate a variable like weed. The most you can really say is "a lot of losers in NZ smoke weed." Which is prol true.

1000 people in NZ tho.

-Smak

You can definitely isolate the effects of different variables like weed. That write up doesn't give too much information. It would be nice to see the socioeconomic back ground of the heavy users and what criteria was used to determine heavy use at each of the 5 checks. Five checks over nearly 40 years isn't very helpful, and they only required 3 of the 5 to be positive for someone to be classified as heavy dependence. Would also be nice to see how balanced their treatments were across the 17% of the sample they considered to be users.

[DCL]

smoking weed and playing video games for hours is a loser lifestyle.

[PistonsFan#21]

Did smoking weed made them losers??

....


or were they already losers that decided to smoke a lot of weed?

[Velocirap31]

Everyone that I know who is a heavy pot smoker is a loser, so no surprise to see those results in a study.

[embersyc]

Everyone that I know who is a heavy pot smoker is a loser, so no surprise to see those results in a study.


Or everybody you know is losers. :confusedshrug:

[Nick Young]

Einstein, Heisenberg, Hawking and Bill Gates all smoked/smoke weed on the regular. Isaac Newton would have blazed if he had access to it.

Most of the greatest musicians in the history of humanity were regular weed smokers.

As were the GOAT comic artists Moebius and Jack Kirby.

That tells you all you need to know about God's green herb.

[fiddy]

smoking weed and playing video games for hours is a loser lifestyle.
Its fun, but eventually you have to grow up

[~primetime~]

And every pot head loser justifies it with "But I know a doctor, lawyer, rich guy, etc that smokes 20 times a day!"

:facepalm

[Bandito]

Einstein, Heisenberg, Hawking and Bill Gates all smoked/smoke weed on the regular. Isaac Newton would have blazed if he had access to it.

Most of the greatest musicians in the history of humanity were regular weed smokers.

As were the GOAT comic artists Moebius and Jack Kirby.

That tells you all you need to know about God's green herb.
No it doesn't. All it tells you is they like the stuff if they kept smoking it.

[Nick Young]

And every pot head loser justifies it with "But I know a doctor, lawyer, rich guy, etc that smokes 20 times a day!"

:facepalm
Is Einstein a loser? Is Bill Gates a loser? Is Steve Jobs a loser?

Seems like the most successful people in the world consume God's green cancer curing herb on a regular basis.


Do you have some kind of problem with the cure for cancer?:facepalm

[~primetime~]

Einstein, Gates, etc didn't smoke on a regular.

If you think Gates is posted up with a bong right now you've read too many articles in High Times mag.

[ArbitraryWater]

Einstein, Heisenberg, Hawking and Bill Gates all smoked/smoke weed on the regular. Isaac Newton would have blazed if he had access to it.

Most of the greatest musicians in the history of humanity were regular weed smokers.

As were the GOAT comic artists Moebius and Jack Kirby.

That tells you all you need to know about God's green herb.

and then there are another millions who couldnt get shit done because of it, most likely... only the most talented were able to sustain that lifestyle and be successful.

[Draz]

Smoking weed should be once a week kind of thing. Like drinking. The way I look at smoking weed, if you smoke it every day (especially more than once) you're technically a weedohalic. Just as bad as an alcoholic. You should have fun and use any substance with regard for moderation.

All my friends smoke weed. They've been pretty successful. They accomplished degrees and are working towards them if they haven't. They know their priorities and shit. However, I don't see that drive in them that I see in people that aren't weed smokers or only smoke it a few times a month.

It definitely hinders you long term as it should short term. Obvious is obvious.

[ArbitraryWater]

Buddy of mine smokes weed like every day, dude sleeps way too long and it hasnt helped him at university at all.

[Nick Young]

Smoking weed should be once a week kind of thing. Like drinking. The way I look at smoking weed, if you smoke it every day (especially more than once) you're technically a weedohalic. Just as bad as an alcoholic. You should have fun and use any substance with regard for moderation.

All my friends smoke weed. They've been pretty successful. They accomplished degrees and are working towards them if they haven't. They know their priorities and shit. However, I don't see that drive in them that I see in people that aren't weed smokers or only smoke it a few times a month.

It definitely hinders you long term as it should short term. Obvious is obvious.
Weed and inner drive are not tied together.

A stoner with no drive and motivation would not suddenly develop drive and motivation if they were to become sober.


You say most stoners are lazy losers with no ambition or motivation? Guess what-you can say the same exact thing about a majority of people who DON'T smoke weed too.

[Nick Young]

and then there are another millions who couldnt get shit done because of it, most likely... only the most talented were able to sustain that lifestyle and be successful.
These are just losers who wouldn't have made it even without weed.

Not everyone is a shining star.

Not everyone gets to be successful and "make it".

[Draz]

Weed and inner drive are not tied together.

A stoner with no drive and motivation would not suddenly develop drive and motivation if they were to become sober.


You say most stoners are lazy losers with no ambition or motivation? Guess what-you can say the same exact thing about a majority of people who DON'T smoke weed too.
I'll use me for example. Whenever I smoke (that once or twice a week) right after I'm prolonging something even if it's a small amount. Either I don't have years and years of experience to protect me from that but I definitely feel slower, mentally and physically. I always have priorities in front of me, but it takes a few days to be as motivated.

[Nick Young]

I'll use me for example. Whenever I smoke (that once or twice a week) right after I'm prolonging something even if it's a small amount. Either I don't have years and years of experience to protect me from that but I definitely feel slower, mentally and physically. I always have priorities in front of me, but it takes a few days to be as motivated.
This is just you as a person though.

People with true innate drive like Steve Jobs, Moebius and the Beatles, not to mention Mr. Nice, the biggest weed dealer in European history, have proven to be highly functioning under the daily influence of god's cancer curing herb.


Most people do not have a strong and innate drive to succeed. Weed does not make people like that. People are like that on their own.

[oarabbus]

Is Einstein a loser? Is Bill Gates a loser? Is Steve Jobs a loser?

Seems like the most successful people in the world consume God's green cancer curing herb on a regular basis.


Do you have some kind of problem with the cure for cancer?:facepalm


Where's your proof that Einstein, Gates, and Jobs consume/used to smoke on a regular basis?

Yeah I'm aware that Gates and Jobs had tried it. Jobs also discussed how LSD was beneficial to his impact on design.

But he tripped once or twice. If you know any people who have done LSD dozens of times, they are usually pretty wacky and not really beacons of success. Same with potheads. Plenty of people have smoked or occasionally smoke. The ones who are smoking 4+ times a week... usually aren't amongst the most successful.

And yeah, really need a source on that Gates/Jobs/Einstein regularly smoking thing.

[TYCRO]

Maybe they are smoking 4 times per day because they are predisposed to not putting effort towards other things, rather than 4 times per day making them not put effort towards other things. :confusedshrug:

[Dresta]

Where's your proof that Einstein, Gates, and Jobs consume/used to smoke on a regular basis?

Yeah I'm aware that Gates and Jobs had tried it. Jobs also discussed how LSD was beneficial to his impact on design.

But he tripped once or twice. If you know any people who have done LSD dozens of times, they are usually pretty wacky and not really beacons of success. Same with potheads. Plenty of people have smoked or occasionally smoke. The ones who are smoking 4+ times a week... usually aren't amongst the most successful.

And yeah, really need a source on that Gates/Jobs/Einstein regularly smoking thing.
Yes, Heisenberg also; I would like to see the proof that he smoked weed "on the regs"

LSD is honestly an amazing experience, and I tried writing on it once, but just kept getting caught in endless paradoxes and contradictions. Really was weird. I can see how it could give you a good idea though, but you're certainly not gonna do the legwork on it. Thing with LSD that makes it pretty safe is that you really don't feel like taking it again after coming down, as you feel so physically and emotionally drained, so it's well-nigh impossible to get addicted to it.


Smoking weed should be once a week kind of thing. Like drinking. The way I look at smoking weed, if you smoke it every day (especially more than once) you're technically a weedohalic. Just as bad as an alcoholic. You should have fun and use any substance with regard for moderation.

All my friends smoke weed. They've been pretty successful. They accomplished degrees and are working towards them if they haven't. They know their priorities and shit. However, I don't see that drive in them that I see in people that aren't weed smokers or only smoke it a few times a month.

It definitely hinders you long term as it should short term. Obvious is obvious.
This, I think, is a fair appraisal. Nothing wrong with it as a weekend or occasional thing, but smoking every day does wear you down, stultify the mind, and destroy motivation as well as the ability to push through difficulties (it makes you feeble and weak and overly introverted).

[UK2K]

This, I think, is a fair appraisal. Nothing wrong with it as a weekend or occasional thing, but smoking every day does wear you down, stultify the mind, and destroy motivation as well as the ability to push through difficulties (it makes you feeble and weak and overly introverted).
I disagree.

[Dresta]

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I disagree.
Disagree with what?

There are very few recreational substances that will harm you if they are done only occasionally, including the big bad bogeyman of heroin (presuming you take a sensible dose, and the stuff is clean).

Or were you disagreeing with the other part?

[FreezingTsmoove]

At my peak of being a stoner I was smoking at least 2 blunts a day for my entire junior year of HS. I spent every cent I scrapped for, and the rest of the time I just got put on. Now my squad we were athletic smokers, we smoked then played ball but during the winter we just smoked inside my boys crib. Could you say we were losers? Yes if you took a look at our grades, and the amount of times we cut class to go smoke

Looking back I was a loser but it was the funnest year of my life

[UK2K]

Disagree with what?

There are very few recreational substances that will harm you if they are done only occasionally, including the big bad bogeyman of heroin (presuming you take a sensible dose, and the stuff is clean).

Or were you disagreeing with the other part?
I disagree that marijuana makes you lazy.

It can make you lazy, and will make a lazy person even more lazy, but if you aren't lazy to begin with...

As someone who smokes daily, I will say that if you can't handle it, it will make you worthless, but chances are, you were worthless to begin with.

[Draz]

You guys gotta realize too. Weed is also MORE potent now than it ever was in the past.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Two points I would like to make:

1) Lazy ass losers exist completely independently from weed, but weed is exceptionally attractive to these people. Are they losers who were attracted to weed, or did weed make them losers?

2) Weed enhances what you are, if you're lazy, you become lazier, if you're hard working, you work hard.


I am far more motivated and driven in my work and exercise now than I was prior to smoking weed. There are plenty of losers who smoke, but I guarantee you if there was a study on people who drink that often, it would say the same thing.

[Nick Young]

Are you scrubs really going to tell me that Bob Marley, Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer are losers?:confusedshrug:

[Nick Young]

Yes, Heisenberg also; I would like to see the proof that he smoked weed "on the regs"

Heisenberg lit up every day with his boy Niels Bohr, do you think they would have been able to figure out what they did without the aid of god's cancer curing green herb cannabis sativa? there is a reason there's a strain named after Heisy, Heisenberg Kush. He's one of the 20th century's most famous stoners. Werner famously wrote in his journals that the greatest scientific discovery of his life was his personal discovery of marijuana after his friend passed him a "jazz cigarette" while studying late at night in the G

[TYCRO]

I disagree that marijuana makes you lazy.

It can make you lazy...
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[UK2K]

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Having sex doesn't lead to children...

It CAN lead to children if you're trying for it, or if you're a dumbass.

But I've fuked a lot of chicks in my lifetime, and I don't have any kids (that I know of).

[TYCRO]

Having sex doesn't lead to children...

It CAN lead to children if you're trying for it, or if you're a dumbass.

But I've fuked a lot of chicks in my lifetime, and I don't have any kids (that I know of).
Ok, I got where you are coming from now.

[UK2K]

Ok, I got where you are coming from now.

When I smoke, I absolutely get lazy. Lazy AF.

But, while I feel lazy, I'm not lazy. Sometimes when I'm ready to get in the zone, I'll pack a big one up, but most of the time its just something to mellow me out and allow me to eat (I probably consume less than 1000 calories from food a day).

[Draz]

Are you scrubs really going to tell me that Bob Marley, Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer are losers?:confusedshrug:
They have talent, not skills. If they weren't talented, they'd probably be homeless.

[stalkerforlife]

Weed is the silent killer.

And it makes potheads delusional enough to think it actually helps them.

Maybe it helps some, but certainly a lot fewer than we are led to believe.

[~primetime~]

Here's the thing, if you're an everyday smoker...that shows a deeper issue ASIDE from being lazy or not. That means you prefer to live out your life high vs your born with god given state of mind(sober). It means you feel more comfortable in an alternate state of mind. That in itself is an issue.

[Nick Young]

Weed is the silent killer.

And it makes potheads delusional enough to think it actually helps them.

Maybe it helps some, but certainly a lot fewer than we are led to believe.
Just answer me these three questions bro:

Is Lil Wayne a loser?


Is Dr. Dre a loser?


Is Paul McCartney a loser?

[stalkerforlife]

Just answer me these three questions bro:

Is Lil Wayne a loser?


Is Dr. Dre a loser?


Is Paul McCartney a loser?

:lol

[Nick Young]

Here's the thing, if you're an everyday smoker...that shows a deeper issue ASIDE from being lazy or not. That means you prefer to live out your life high vs your born with god given state of mind(sober). It means you feel more comfortable in an alternate state of mind. That in itself is an issue.
Does Snoop Doggy Dog have "issues" now? :facepalm

[~primetime~]

Does Snoop Doggy Dog have "issues" now? :facepalm
yeah maybe...maybe he would be a a scientist had he never smoked pot, who knows.

I mean he's in his 40s still claiming crip...if that is your proof that pot makes you a winner you should find someone else.

[Nick Young]

yeah maybe...maybe he would be a a scientist had he never smoked pot, who knows.

I mean he's in his 40s still claiming crip...if that is your proof that pot makes you a winner you should find someone else.
Are you a winner in comparison to Snoop Dog?:confusedshrug:

[~primetime~]

Are you a winner in comparison to Snoop Dog?:confusedshrug:
maybe...I don't know him or what goes on in his personal life.

Philip Seymour Hoffman had a heroin habit...does that mean heroin creates winners?

[Jasper]

You can also get schizophrenia

How many knew that.

[Nick Young]

You can also get schizophrenia

How many knew that.
Wrong. If you already have schizophrenia, weed can accelerate the process. It will never cause mental illness in people who aren't already mentally ill.

[brownmamba00]

It's not for everyone but if you'll smoke but still function go ahead do it

Not like you're tripping off of heroin it's just weed at the end of the day

[KyrieTheFuture]

Here's the thing, if you're an everyday smoker...that shows a deeper issue ASIDE from being lazy or not. That means you prefer to live out your life high vs your born with god given state of mind(sober). It means you feel more comfortable in an alternate state of mind. That in itself is an issue.
You both believe in god and that everyone's state of normalcy is the same. That in itself is an issue.

[Levity]

every time these threads are brought up i see the same shit being said by the same posters (for or against it)

and every time they are opinions, but theyre being soooo fcking hard pressed, youd think they believe it as fact. at the end of the day, its just how you choose to allow something, in this case weed, affect (and thats not even the right word to use) you.

your mental strength far outweighs the effects of marijuana. meaning, if you had the aspirations to actually do something, then youll do it, stoned or not. if you claim to have the aspirations to do something, but then you smoke and decide against it, its probably because you never wanted to do that thing in the first place

now, alcohol is a bit different, seeing that it can actually impair you in a weed generally never does. but that doesnt mean if you drink daily, youre destined to be a huge piece of shit. do you guys realize how many doctors drink every single day, even with knowing the long-term effects of it. im just using that dumb example in my point that if you have the mental fortitude to actually commit to something, your recreational "vices" wont necessarily hinder that

theres also the difference of every day vs all day everyday. but thats a totally different subject and i hope you guys realize that.

[TheMan]

Yeah no shit.

They could've gave me the money and not have wasted 38 years to find this out, anybody who knows stoners knows this. :facepalm

[KyrieTheFuture]

I see a large distinction in when you smoke as well. The only times I smoke are right before I start cooking and before bed. That's a lot different from wake and bake, or going to work high or whatever.

[Nick Young]

Yeah no shit.

They could've gave me the money and not have wasted 38 years to find this out, anybody who knows stoners knows this. :facepalm
Do you believe that Bob Marley was a loser?

[HenryGarfunkle]

Winners are winners and loser are losers. Weed won't change that. It's true losers are more drawn to weed, so the study does have some validity. But no winner smokes weed and becomes a loser. He was a loser to begin with. So no, smoking weed doe not make someone a loser.

Now we're gonna blame cupcakes for why people are fat?

Weed is a beautiful thing. And so are cupcakes. Don't turn them to bad things because a bunch losers abuse them.

[Norcaliblunt]

Stoners aren't losers they are just addicts. And addiction can be a mofo for some.

[ILLsmak]

You can also get schizophrenia

How many knew that.

ME. haha.

-Smak