Science classifies Homosapiens as Primates

[Duderonomy]

Why is this so hard for 5 billion people to understand?

[Akrazotile]

Great, let's start takin slaves and subjugating women again. :rockon:

Primates aint bout that morality shit. Darwin all day errday.

Right OP?

[keep-itreal]

race is a social construct

[Back In Shape]

So are Whites and Asians subspecies?

[NumberSix]

race is a social construct
Then evolution is a social construct.

[Solidape]

Why is this so hard for 5 billion people to understand?

Simple reason, everyone wants to feel special. If you are told you are an animal, some people get offended like they are not animals but some special being called humans.

[bdreason]

Humans are beyond delusional; chimps who think they aren't chimps.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Why is this so hard for 5 billion people to understand?

To borrow a purgative right-wing dipshits like to use, people want to believe they are special snowflakes.

That goes double for people of faith. There's a reason why American conservatives have an increasing distrust in science--it tells them what they don't want to hear:

God isn't real, there is no afterlife, this is all there is.

These inconvenient truths make them uncomfortable, so they double down on their religious faith.

They'd rather believe that a giant sky fairy will protect them (but not godless commies and homosexuals) if the shit really gets thick. Science doesn't provide this kind of comfort, so they dismiss it.

[Akrazotile]

Great, let's start takin slaves and subjugating women again. :rockon:

Primates aint bout that morality shit. Darwin all day errday.

Right OP?


Will one of the liberals address this, please?

I see PhantomCuck commented, but I cant see his message. I assume he didnt address the fact that Darwinian evolution suggests we should take slaves, bomb the middle east, and do everything possible to give our insignificant, meaningless selves the most possible advantages.

Why the **** should random cell clusters give a f about strangers 5 thousand miles away? Because soft liberal limp-wrists are desperate for some moral doctrine to impress the hippy chicks with?

That aint science.


Well otoh, I guess it is. Cuck males cant impress girls with their masculinity, achievement, knowledge, physique etc... They have to invent ways to be "morally superior" to those guys.

Defense mechanism. I dont see these dudes volunteering in Africa. They play Nanny on the internet hoping it impresses people and gets them better social standing in America. Dudes transparent af.

[Nick Young]

Great, let's start takin slaves and subjugating women again. :rockon:

Primates aint bout that morality shit. Darwin all day errday.

Right OP?
You are being sarcastic, but you are speaking truths.

In nature, the most violent and clever Machiavellian primates are the ones who survive and pass on their genes.

We, as primates are the same. History shows us as much. The humans that history remembers most are often also the most violent. Coincidentally, these violent men (and a few women, here's looking at you Empress Theodora) were/are also the most powerful.


Ghengis.
Napoleon.
Stalin.
Hitler.
Alexander the Great.
Julius Caesar.


The humanity hall of fame is packed with violent conquerors.

We can try to doctor things up and pretend we know better, but at our hearts, we are primates, just like gorillas and chimpanzees.


And the fact that history continually repeats itself to me shows that we in fact do not know better. We can try to pretend that we aren't animals and don't follow the laws of nature, but that won't change the fact that ultimately, that's what we do.

[Akrazotile]

You are being sarcastic, but you are speaking truths.

In nature, the most violent and clever Machiavellian primates are the ones who survive and pass on their genes.

We, as primates are the same. History shows us as much. The humans that history remembers most are often also the most violent. Coincidentally, these violent men (and a few women, here's looking at you Empress Theodora) were/are also the most powerful.


Ghengis.
Napoleon.
Stalin.
Hitler.
Alexander the Great.
Julius Caesar.


The humanity hall of fame is packed with violent conquerors.

We can try to doctor things up and pretend we know better, but at our hearts, we are primates, just like gorillas and chimpanzees.


And the fact that history continually repeats itself to me shows that we in fact do not know better. We can try to pretend that we aren't animals and don't follow the laws of nature, but that won't change the fact that ultimately, that's what we do.



Careful now, youre beginning to scare Phantomcuck. He's not gonna have any way to address this so there is a 1000% chance hes simply gonna call you a racist then run away (whilst running like a girl) and crying hot tears about racist racism.

[Nick Young]

Careful now, youre beginning to scare Phantomcuck. He's not gonna have any way to address this so there is a 1000% chance hes simply gonna call you a racist then run away (whilst running like a girl) and crying hot tears about racist racism.
lol that sheltered cuck has been on my ignore list for months now. I believe he actually has some form of severe mental illness. I feel no need to read his latest psychotic blunderings.

[Blue&Orange]

Great, let's start takin slaves and subjugating women again. :rockon:

Primates aint bout that morality shit. Darwin all day errday.

Right OP?
Wrong as always.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/no-time-for-bullies-baboons-retool-their-culture.html?_r=0



Among a troop of savanna baboons in Kenya, a terrible outbreak of tuberculosis 20 years ago selectively killed off the biggest, nastiest and most despotic males, setting the stage for a social and behavioral transformation unlike any seen in this notoriously truculent primate.

With that change in demographics came a cultural swing toward pacifism, a relaxing of the usually parlous baboon hierarchy, and a willingness to use affection and mutual grooming rather than threats, swipes and bites to foster a patriotic spirit.

Mother nature shows us the blueprint, tainted bovine meat in the right places and we are all set.

[Nick Young]

Wrong as always.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/no-time-for-bullies-baboons-retool-their-culture.html?_r=0



Mother nature shows us the blueprint, tainted bovine meat in the right places and we are all set.
LOL babboons are the stupidest and most backwards in all of primate society.


Think of it this way. If Chimps and Gorillas are the United States of America of primate society, Baboons are like red neck inbred Deliverance hicks from West Virgina.


ALSO, baboons are the most violent and brutal of all the primates.

http://www.stevebloom.com/images/b/505296-BS1.jpg
They have vampire fangs FFS!

This peaceful sect of baboons is going to murdered, subjugated and raped as soon as they run in to a tribe of regular baboons. Long term, they ultimately will not survive long enough to pass on their genes for much longer. The peace monkeys will be weeded out of the gene pool as soon as they run in to a pack of regular baboons as they will have no way to fight back and win.


Nature is harsh and cruel, but it is what it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDT0xSsrVIg


This little tribe of hippy baboons has NO CHANCE.

[Blue&Orange]

Why don't i just stfu?
I don't know.

Alexander succeeded his father to the throne and inherited a strong kingdom and an experienced army
I could be violent too, drinking tea and eating cupcakes, deciding where my troops will go next, from the comfort of my palace while some hoes bathe me. So violent.

The humans that history remembers most are often also the most violent.
Well yes you are thinking about war and violence, generals raised and schooled to make war doing their job :roll:. Maybe if you are thinking about other things, there are a lot of other humans people remember.

And the fact that history continually repeats itself to me shows that we in fact do not know better.
Earth is infinitely a better place that is was 100 years ago, despite having 7x more people on it, let alone 500 1000 years ago.


It's almost like you are trying to make yourself feel good about yourself because somehow you are realizing how a ****ing primate you are. :roll:


I just don't get it why are you constantly spamming this board on how islam is violent, after reading your dumb post, i would thought you would be clapping

We can try to pretend that we aren't animals and don't follow the laws of nature, but that won't change the fact that ultimately, that's what we do.
I mean why are you upset with them? It's what we do *******.

[Akrazotile]

Wrong as always.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/no-time-for-bullies-baboons-retool-their-culture.html?_r=0



Mother nature shows us the blueprint, tainted bovine meat in the right places and we are all set.


Lol u dummy. Something like that happens because people or animals equal in heirarchy have no advantage over each other, so theres no incentive to fight and mutually destroy each other.

If you place alpha baboons back in their mix it will naturally go back to a heirarchy. In the animal kingdom, those who CAN dominate, do.

USA has huge advanages over most of the world. What evolutionary, big bang purpose does it serve to waste our money fighting terrorism and getting attacked when we could simply wipe that region off the map?

How does it benefit us as an evolved, self-interested species with myriad advantages, to be tolerant of attackers?

[Nick Young]

I don't know.

I could be violent too, drinking tea and eating cupcakes, deciding where my troops will go next, from the comfort of my palace while some hoes bathe me. So violent.

Well yes you are thinking about war and violence, generals raised and schooled to make war doing their job :roll:. Maybe if you are thinking about other things, there are a lot of other humans people remember.

Earth is infinitely a better place that is was 100 years ago, despite having 7x more people on it, let alone 500 1000 years ago.


It's almost like you are trying to make yourself feel good about yourself because somehow you are realizing how a ****ing primate you are. :roll:


I just don't get it why are you constantly spamming this board on how islam is violent, after reading your dumb post, i would thought you would be clapping

I mean why are you upset with them? It's what we do *******.

What is your first language?

Are you actually in grad school?

[Akrazotile]

What is your first language?

Are you actually in grad school?


This. Guy's typing is shrill, frantic and incoherent. And also doesnt appear to be very proficient with English.

Maybe hes a Phantomcuck alt.

[Blue&Orange]

Lol u dummy. Something like that happens because people or animals equal in heirarchy have no advantage over each other, so theres no incentive to fight and mutually destroy each other.

If you place alpha baboons back in their mix it will naturally go back to a heirarchy. In the animal kingdom, those who CAN dominate, do.


Remarkably, the Forest Troop has maintained its genial style over two decades, even though the male survivors of the epidemic have since died or disappeared and been replaced by males from the outside.
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[Nick Young]

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[ThePhantomCreep]

To borrow a purgative right-wing dipshits like to use, people want to believe they are special snowflakes.

That goes double for people of faith. There's a reason why American conservatives have an increasing distrust in science--it tells them what they don't want to hear:

God isn't real, there is no afterlife, this is all there is.

These inconvenient truths make them uncomfortable, so they double down on their religious faith.

They'd rather believe that a giant sky fairy will protect them (but not godless commies and homosexuals) if the shit really gets thick. Science doesn't provide this kind of comfort, so they dismiss it.

Small amendment to this post.

Right-wing nut jobs (like Nick Yong and Starface) love science when it comes to promoting nationalism, genocide, and racial superiority. You know, the shit Jesus peaches about endlessly. :lol

[Akrazotile]

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This retards are a gold mine

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gayoung, oh islam bad islam, oh severing heads, oh violent animals, we should nuke them!

gayoung, oh it's what we are, the most violent are the best, it's awesome!

:roll: :roll:

gold mine i say gold mine.

:roll: :roll:


Youre trying to distract from a lost argument by acting retarded.


You really are a Phantomcuck and Longtime Lurker and kniokas alt. Either that or yall are quadruplettes

[Bandito]

Humans are beyond delusional; chimps who think they aren't chimps.
Were not chimps. We are Primates. Is like saying cats are lions. Both are felines (felidae) but that's about it.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Youre trying to distract from a lost argument by acting retarded.


You really are a Phantomcuck and Longtime Lurker and kniokas alt. Either that or yall are quadruplettes

LOL @ this paranoid POS. Typical right-wing nut job--delusional, irrational, filled with fear and hate. He's the offspring of the geriatric FOX News viewer--the one who fear nonexistent or overblown boogeymen (Saddam

[Akrazotile]

Were not chimps. We are Primates. Is like saying cats are lions. Both are felines (felidae) but that's about it.


You could also argue that humans have evolved beyond the order of primate into their own distinction. Just like grizzly bears may have originally come from invertibrate jellyfish - but no longer bear such classification.

Taxinomy isnt concrete at all the way dummy OP believes. He and the other belligerent cuckolds in this thread automatically have faith in what scientists tell them. They do not perform the science themselves, or understand its complexities, but if the scientist tells them something, then they take it for granted as automatic. Much like a congregation of parishioners having faith in the word of their priest. It's the exact same mechanism.

However, unlike any other primate, humans exist as a species outside tropical and subtropical regions. They have far greater social complexity and dietary variance. This guy is literally preaching about things he just learned about earlier in the day.

Taxonomy is not a strict science and who knows, perhaps a scientific case could be made humans are no longer part of the order primate. I certainly dont know and neither does OP.

But that's the difference. This idiot gets told about something hes completely ignorant of at a Bernie Sanders rally then runs to the internet to call everyone stupid and scientifically illeterate, when he probably has far, far less knowledge and intelligence than the audience hes making his declaration to.

OP has become an obsessive try-hard over the last week, and its clear hes a new convert to liberal dogma, shrieking as loud as possible to make sure everyone recognizes the emporers new clothes.

[Bandito]

You could also argue that humans have evolved beyond the order of primate into their own distinction. Just like grizzly bears may have originally come from invertibrate jellyfish - but no longer bear such classification.

Taxinomy isnt concrete at all the way dummy OP believes. He and the other belligerent cuckolds in this thread automatically have faith in what scientists tell them. They do not perform the science themselves, or understand its complexities, but if the scientist tells them something, then they take it for granted as automatic. Much like a congregation of parishioners having faith in the word of their priest. It's the exact same mechanism.

However, unlike any other primate, humans exist as a species outside tropical and subtropical regions. They have far greater social complexity and dietary variance. This guy is literally preaching about things he just learned about earlier in the day.

Taxonomy is not a strict science and who knows, perhaps a scientific case could be made humans are no longer part of the order primate. I certainly dont know and neither does OP.

But that's the difference. This idiot gets told about something hes completely ignorant of at a Bernie Sanders rally then runs to the internet to call everyone stupid and scientifically illeterate, when he probably has far, far less knowledge and intelligence than the audience hes making his declaration to.

OP has become an obsessive try-hard over the last week, and its clear hes a new convert to liberal dogma, shrieking as loud as possible to make sure everyone recognizes the emporers new clothes.

I can agree with this and you could argue it with whatever committee is in charge of classifying humans as primates.

But that's the thing, talking about it on the forum is not going to do anything. You have to take it to them because in the end what they say it makes sense. One of the reasons were considered primates is because of physiology, like the hands and the way we can see for example. So you have to prove to them that whatever makes us different also make us unique in a way that we deserve to be our own family (or family classifications. In Spanish it means the same in science circles or at least that's how I was thought in school).

PS: Not talking specifically at you but overall.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Scarface = another right-wing idiot who wants to a special snowflake.

Human and chimp DNA is nearly identical when you compare the bands on chromosomes, the bundles of DNA inside nearly every cell, but Scarface thinks we might be different species because "derp, we can live in a bunch of different places, monkeys can't". :lol

Think technology might play a role in that, fckface?

[bdreason]

Were not chimps. We are Primates. Is like saying cats are lions. Both are felines (felidae) but that's about it.

If I made you a sandwich that's 99% shit and 1% ham, would you call it a ham sandwich?

[Nick Young]

This forum always delivers on the philosophical debates. Whichever side of the argument you are on, be proud of yourself ISH. We da best:applause:

[Bandito]

Scarface = another right-wing idiot who wants to a special snowflake.

Human and chimp DNA is nearly identical when you compare the bands on chromosomes, the bundles of DNA inside nearly every cell, but Scarface thinks we might be different species because "derp, we can live in a bunch of different places, monkeys can't". :lol

Think technology might play a role in that, fckface?
Nice googling genius. You could've at least quoted that or written it in your own words. Not steal it word by word.

http://i65.tinypic.com/122d928.png

[Bandito]

If I made you a sandwich that's 99% shit and 1% ham, would you call it a ham sandwich?
That doesn't have anything to do with anything you or I said. A chimp is a chimp and a human is a human. We may be similar in a lot of characteristics but not the same.

[ILLsmak]

To borrow a purgative right-wing dipshits like to use, people want to believe they are special snowflakes.

That goes double for people of faith. There's a reason why American conservatives have an increasing distrust in science--it tells them what they don't want to hear:

God isn't real, there is no afterlife, this is all there is.

These inconvenient truths make them uncomfortable, so they double down on their religious faith.

They'd rather believe that a giant sky fairy will protect them (but not godless commies and homosexuals) if the shit really gets thick. Science doesn't provide this kind of comfort, so they dismiss it.

Nobody quotes this post, so I will.

holy shit man. This is one morbid post! I personally believe there is more to life than what science can see. I don't think science is wrong just 'still learning.' I think we can intuit beyond science and not-because of being special snowflakes.

It's like you look at a bird, and you're like wow I got this great idea... we can make planes, I am a genius! Same concept except it's that 'there is more going on here that what we can observe in a lab, or poke and prod.'

I'm not gonna say anything beyond that and you were prolly trolling. The dudes you cite as right wing posters are probably also trolling. Don't stop searching for truth on your own. Science isn't gonna deliver it all to your doorway in a publication. At best, you'll always be one of the last people to know.

-Smak

[Nick Young]

Nobody quotes this post, so I will.

holy shit man. This is one morbid post! I personally believe there is more to life than what science can see. I don't think science is wrong just 'still learning.' I think we can intuit beyond science and not-because of being special snowflakes.

It's like you look at a bird, and you're like wow I got this great idea... we can make planes, I am a genius! Same concept except it's that 'there is more going on here that what we can observe in a lab, or poke and prod.'

I'm not gonna say anything beyond that and you were prolly trolling. The dudes you cite as right wing posters are probably also trolling. Don't stop searching for truth on your own. Science isn't gonna deliver it all to your doorway in a publication. At best, you'll always be one of the last people to know.

-Smak
Science only figured out the Big Bang 70 years ago. Abramamic religions were talking about it 3,500 years ago especially in Kabbalah. The Bible and the Torah are two books of stories that have lasted thousands of years, and contain universal truths that have gone on to inspire the greatest works of art and literature in the history of humanity.

[Akrazotile]

Nice googling genius. You could've at least quoted that or written it in your own words. Not steal it word by word.

http://i65.tinypic.com/122d928.png

:roll:


Guy is simply a liberal evangelical shouting angrily into a megaphone. He hasnt thought about anything himself. Hes simply a left wing spambot. You can tell from his rage hes got some deep emotional baggage.

Clown belongs in a padded room.


Edit: Also if you look closely, he mocked me for suggesting (which I didnt suggest bc I already know this and so does everyone but him) that humans and chimps are different species. He apparently does not think this to be the case. Which, in his individual genetic heredity, may be rather accurate.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Nice googling genius. You could've at least quoted that or written it in your own words. Not steal it word by word.

http://i65.tinypic.com/122d928.png

Congrats Columbo, you did absolutely nothing to disprove my post but you figured out that I borrowed a couple of sentences from a website. You're a debate master.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Science only figured out the Big Bang 70 years ago. Abramamic religions were talking about it 3,500 years ago especially in Kabbalah. The Bible and the Torah are two books of stories that have lasted thousands of years, and contain universal truths that have gone on to inspire the greatest works of art and literature in the history of humanity.

Aesop's fables contains many universal truths that have stood the test of time. And?

[Bandito]

Congrats Columbo, you did absolutely nothing to disprove my post but you figured out that I borrowed a couple of sentences from a website. You're a debate master.
I was googling because I wanted to find more info about that 'chimps DNA is 99.9% similar to humans' for personal reasons. Wasn't about to even respond to you because you seem like an angry troll. Kinda remind me of Nick Young.

[oarabbus]

Congrats Columbo, you did absolutely nothing to disprove my post but you figured out that I borrowed a couple of sentences from a website. You're a debate master.


I agree with the point you are making but copying the quote like that isn't good form man.

[Dresta]

To borrow a purgative right-wing dipshits like to use, people want to believe they are special snowflakes.

That goes double for people of faith. There's a reason why American conservatives have an increasing distrust in science--it tells them what they don't want to hear:

God isn't real, there is no afterlife, this is all there is.

These inconvenient truths make them uncomfortable, so they double down on their religious faith.

They'd rather believe that a giant sky fairy will protect them (but not godless commies and homosexuals) if the shit really gets thick. Science doesn't provide this kind of comfort, so they dismiss it.Science doesn't say anything about those things.

That you think it does or even ever can just shows what a scientistic imbecile you are.

[Dresta]

Scarface = another right-wing idiot who wants to a special snowflake.

Human and chimp DNA is nearly identical when you compare the bands on chromosomes, the bundles of DNA inside nearly every cell, but Scarface thinks we might be different species because "derp, we can live in a bunch of different places, monkeys can't". :lol

Think technology might play a role in that, fckface?
Why are you so determined to believe that there's so little difference between yourself and a monkey?

I suppose a monkey might be able to copy and paste inane things off one part of the internet and onto another part with the proper training also?

But do you really think there's not much of a difference between Einstein or Beethoven and a monkey? Does coming to such a conclusion seem in any way empirical to you?

[TYCRO]

OP is a social construct.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

1) To even distinguish something like "science" as a separate entity (when Churches, Synagogues, and Mosques retained LEARNING (i.e. THE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO ACQUIRING KNOWLEDGE) and then use something like taxodermy which relies on premises like compartmentalized thinking is faulty to begin with. Naturally, there's tremendous crossover and overlap between what you're fighting against and what truths are derived from spiritual revelation and empirical knowledge just as there are crossover between the life form known as chimpanzees and humans, though they have a DIFFERENT FUNDAMENTAL NATURE and ORIGIN.

You, phantomcreep, op and his cronies are nothing but agents of destruction against your grandfather's and great-grandfather's people's knowledge of themselves, their way of life, and their Lord.


2) Far longer Endurance Running. Far weaker muscle strength. Far, far, far longer time to reach maturity and maximize potential. Astral Body. Exponentially more powerful command of language, mathematics, and science. Far, far, far advanced civilization EVEN many thousands of years ago then the smartest feat a chimp can do i.e. use sticks.(although

These are just a minutiae of the vast discrepancies between the two species. Genetics is an insufficient metric. I'd liken a chimp closer to a cat before a chimp to a genuine human being. That's how great the human being's intellectual and spiritual and moral potential is. To override blatant visible physical similarities.




They'd rather believe that a giant sky fairy will protect them (but not godless commies and homosexuals) if the shit really gets thick. Science doesn't provide this kind of comfort, so they dismiss it.

:rolleyes: We can go with your take, or we can go with the take of the Prophets and the people of understanding. Oh, and almost every person in India since the beginning of time. And the Egyptians. And the Arabs. And the Vikings. And a thousand more civilizations; all of which didn't have access to anything we did, yet I'd count on them to lead a nation before me or you (no offense). Among them Said Nursi (paraphrased by me) ," Human existence in itself plays out like a movie where each figure must mature, develop, strengthen, refine their knowledge, worship, and purify the intentions of their deeds in order to come nearer to realizing God.". Do you honestly think, without God's inspiration, strength, precision, command and all His other attributes aiding mankind; the pyramids could have been built? Or Ave Maria be constructed compelling people to tears? Or 12 hour coal miners laboring or women in textile factories slaving away repeating tasks yet not at all depressed? Or any kind of cohesive civilization without faith in a firm eternal recompense for it?

It'd be all fine and dandy if we can fade into oblivion, Phantom Creep. But guess what, in my brief time on Earth I've made many mistakes and have to pay for those shortcomings and malicious intentions. How convenient for YOU to deny the Day of Judgment and the Afterlife after deliberately sinning this entire time.


God, because of Starface's moral deficiency, and your lack of faith; two sicknesses of the heart, is compelling the two of you to converse and intellectually battle with each other until SOME form of light/truth is exchanged for your spiritual growth.

Luckily, Starface can learn from your compassion, and you can learn from his openness to other faiths.

[Nick Young]

1) To even distinguish something like "science" as a separate entity (when Churches, Synagogues, and Mosques retained LEARNING (i.e. THE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO ACQUIRING KNOWLEDGE) and then use something like taxodermy which relies on premises like compartmentalized thinking is faulty to begin with. Naturally, there's tremendous crossover and overlap between what you're fighting against and what truths are derived from spiritual revelation and empirical knowledge just as there are crossover between the life form known as chimpanzees and humans, though they have a DIFFERENT FUNDAMENTAL NATURE and ORIGIN.

You, phantomcreep, op and his cronies are nothing but agents of destruction against your grandfather's and great-grandfather's people's knowledge of themselves, their way of life, and their Lord.


2) Far longer Endurance Running. Far weaker muscle strength. Far, far, far longer time to reach maturity and maximize potential. Astral Body. Exponentially more powerful command of language, mathematics, and science. Far, far, far advanced civilization EVEN many thousands of years ago then the smartest feat a chimp can do i.e. use sticks.(although

These are just a minutiae of the vast discrepancies between the two species. Genetics is an insufficient metric. I'd liken a chimp closer to a cat before a chimp to a genuine human being. That's how great the human being's intellectual and spiritual and moral potential is. To override blatant visible physical similarities.




They'd rather believe that a giant sky fairy will protect them (but not godless commies and homosexuals) if the shit really gets thick. Science doesn't provide this kind of comfort, so they dismiss it.

:rolleyes: We can go with your take, or we can go with the take of the Prophets and the people of understanding. Oh, and almost every person in India since the beginning of time. And the Egyptians. And the Arabs. And the Vikings. And a thousand more civilizations; all of which didn't have access to anything we did, yet I'd count on them to lead a nation before me or you (no offense). Among them Said Nursi (paraphrased by me) ," Human existence in itself plays out like a movie where each figure must mature, develop, strengthen, refine their knowledge, worship, and purify the intentions of their deeds in order to come nearer to realizing God.". Do you honestly think, without God's inspiration, strength, precision, command and all His other attributes aiding mankind; the pyramids could have been built? Or Ave Maria be constructed compelling people to tears? Or 12 hour coal miners laboring or women in textile factories slaving away repeating tasks yet not at all depressed? Or any kind of cohesive civilization without faith in a firm eternal recompense for it?

It'd be all fine and dandy if we can fade into oblivion, Phantom Creep. But guess what, in my brief time on Earth I've made many mistakes and have to pay for those shortcomings and malicious intentions. How convenient for YOU to deny the Day of Judgment and the Afterlife after deliberately sinning this entire time.


God, because of Starface's moral deficiency, and your lack of faith; two sicknesses of the heart, is compelling the two of you to converse and intellectually battle with each other until SOME form of light/truth is exchanged for your spiritual growth.

Luckily, Starface can learn from your compassion, and you can learn from his openness to other faiths.
We are primates. We obey the laws of nature just like all other organisms on earth. God created nature. By following the laws of nature, we are following the laws of God.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Simple reason, everyone wants to feel special. If you are told you are an animal, some people get offended like they are not animals but some special being called humans.

No you f*cking idiot.

Not everyone gives a sheet about feeling special, because people eventually OUTGROW any lame praises to the ego and find fulfillment/happiness in something else. Need an illustration, LOOK AND TALK with YO GRANDPARENTS

Humans are far, far, far above animals if they study, work hard, pray, serve others, refine their morality, (ex. Theresa, Gandhi), but they, if they become corrupt, can become far, far lower than them. (tomtucker)

[Nick Young]

No you f*cking idiot.

Not everyone gives a sheet about feeling special, because people eventually OUTGROW any lame praises to the ego and find fulfillment/happiness in something else. Need an illustration, LOOK AND TALK with YO GRANDPARENTS

Humans are far, far, far above animals if they study, work hard, pray, serve others, refine their morality, (ex. Theresa, Gandhi), but they, if they become corrupt, can become far, far lower than them. (Saddam,)
No matter what a human does, they will never escape the simple fact that they are an animal.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

We are primates. We obey the laws of nature just like all other organisms on earth. God created nature. By following the laws of nature, we are following the laws of God.

Your last 3 sentences are correct.

We have a different nature than lustful bonobos, and violent tribal chimps though.

Animals don't have free will, Humans have free will.

Animals obey instinct, ie. God's Laws without much cogitation. Human beings have the ability to disobey God's Laws.

We are all Creation and must treat animals well. We are all organisms. But by definition and through the lens of the person who invented the term animal; persons are distinct from animal.

[Akrazotile]

Luckily, Starface can learn from your compassion, and you can learn from his openness to other faiths.


What compassion has Phantomsheep ever demonstrated?

[Nick Young]

Your last 3 sentences are correct.

We have a different nature than lustful bonobos, and violent tribal chimps though.

Animals don't have free will, Humans have free will.

Animals obey instinct, ie. God's Laws without much cogitation. Human beings have the ability to disobey God's Laws.
We are still primates. Baboons have different nature from orangutans. They are both primates, just as orangutans and homosapiens are both primates.

Many animals such as orcas, dogs, octopi, mantis shrimp and yes, other primates all have free will.

[TheMan]

Will one of the liberals address this, please?

I see PhantomCuck commented, but I cant see his message. I assume he didnt address the fact that Darwinian evolution suggests we should take slaves, bomb the middle east, and do everything possible to give our insignificant, meaningless selves the most possible advantages.

Why the **** should random cell clusters give a f about strangers 5 thousand miles away? Because soft liberal limp-wrists are desperate for some moral doctrine to impress the hippy chicks with?

That aint science.


Well otoh, I guess it is. Cuck males cant impress girls with their masculinity, achievement, knowledge, physique etc... They have to invent ways to be "morally superior" to those guys.

Defense mechanism. I dont see these dudes volunteering in Africa. They play Nanny on the internet hoping it impresses people and gets them better social standing in America. Dudes transparent af.
You try so hard, it's actually quite sad :oldlol:

You mention alpha males passing their genes on when I (I consider myself a regular guy who leans left) have already passed my genes, (I have succeeded :rockon:) I have two healthy boys, while you and that other blowhard NYoung, are nowhere close to fooling a dumb broad into having kids and you're already are a 30 something year old loser still living off your parents :yaohappy:

Another point, humanity isn't nowhere near as violent as it used to be you idiot. We no longer have walls, moats or any of those barriers to protect our villages from marauding invaders set on killing, looting and enslaving people, you ****tard :facepalm

[KyrieTheFuture]

I don't know.

I could be violent too, drinking tea and eating cupcakes, deciding where my troops will go next, from the comfort of my palace while some hoes bathe me. So violent.

Well yes you are thinking about war and violence, generals raised and schooled to make war doing their job :roll:. Maybe if you are thinking about other things, there are a lot of other humans people remember.

Earth is infinitely a better place that is was 100 years ago, despite having 7x more people on it, let alone 500 1000 years ago.


It's almost like you are trying to make yourself feel good about yourself because somehow you are realizing how a ****ing primate you are. :roll:


I just don't get it why are you constantly spamming this board on how islam is violent, after reading your dumb post, i would thought you would be clapping

I mean why are you upset with them? It's what we do *******.
You really know nothing about history do you?

[Nick Young]

You really know nothing about history do you?
He doesn't know much about the English language either.

[KyrieTheFuture]

He doesn't know much about the English language either.
It's just amazing how much confidence he speaks with while being pretty much 100% wrong

[ThePhantomCreep]

Why are you so determined to believe that there's so little difference between yourself and a monkey?

I suppose a monkey might be able to copy and paste inane things off one part of the internet and onto another part with the proper training also?

But do you really think there's not much of a difference between Einstein or Beethoven and a monkey? Does coming to such a conclusion seem in any way empirical to you?

Unreal. A simple fact (humans = primates), and none of these conservative nut jobs can accept it. It's almost as if they're programed to be wrong about everything.

[D-Wade316]

You try so hard, it's actually quite sad :oldlol:

You mention alpha males passing their genes on when I (I consider myself a regular guy who leans left) have already passed my genes, (I have succeeded :rockon:) I have two healthy boys, while you and that other blowhard NYoung, are nowhere close to fooling a dumb broad into having kids and you're already are a 30 something year old loser still living off your parents :yaohappy:

Another point, humanity isn't nowhere near as violent as it used to be you idiot. We no longer have walls, moats or any of those barriers to protect our villages from marauding invaders set on killing, looting and enslaving people, you ****tard :facepalm
:lebronamazed: :yaohappy:

[D-Wade316]

Unreal. A simple fact (humans = primates), and none of these conservative nut jobs can accept it. It's almost as if they're programed to be wrong about everything.
Talks about empricism, yet can't comprehend simple taxonomic classification. :lol

Dresta proving once again he is king of faux intellectualism.

[greymatter]

Talks about empricism, yet can't comprehend simple taxonomic classification. :lol

Dresta proving once again he is king of faux intellectualism.

Wasn't under the impression that any of his long-winded and typically non-sequitor filled nonsense was interpreted as having any intellectual substance to anyone who isn't a reactionary Fox News dittohead.

[warriorfan]

You try so hard, it's actually quite sad :oldlol:

You mention alpha males passing their genes on when I (I consider myself a regular guy who leans left) have already passed my genes, (I have succeeded :rockon:) I have two healthy boys, while you and that other blowhard NYoung, are nowhere close to fooling a dumb broad into having kids and you're already are a 30 something year old loser still living off your parents :yaohappy:

Another point, humanity isn't nowhere near as violent as it used to be you idiot. We no longer have walls, moats or any of those barriers to protect our villages from marauding invaders set on killing, looting and enslaving people, you ****tard :facepalm

holy shit :roll:

:applause:

[Nick Young]

You try so hard, it's actually quite sad :oldlol:

You mention alpha males passing their genes on when I (I consider myself a regular guy who leans left) have already passed my genes, (I have succeeded :rockon:) I have two healthy boys, while you and that other blowhard NYoung, are nowhere close to fooling a dumb broad into having kids and you're already are a 30 something year old loser still living off your parents :yaohappy:

Another point, humanity isn't nowhere near as violent as it used to be you idiot. We no longer have walls, moats or any of those barriers to protect our villages from marauding invaders set on killing, looting and enslaving people, you ****tard :facepalm

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/3019573/indiana-jones-face-melt-o.gif
The site of a grownass man with wife and kids melting down like a candle.


I wish I could say that this was an unusual sight on ISH, but it isn't :lol

It is a little bit scary to think that looney toons like this are out there raising young children though.

[Nick Young]

#WeAreAllPrimates
#WeAreOne

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jwcZyHjU7UY/TaGha9z8TnI/AAAAAAAAESE/wipEOCEbQMs/s1600/nurse_with_chimps.jpg

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Referring to the Children of Israel:
"And indeed, you knew those who transgressed among you in the (matter of) Sabbath. So We said to them, "Be apes, despised." 2:265

[Nick Young]

Referring to the Children of Israel:
"And indeed, you knew those who transgressed among you in the (matter of) Sabbath. So We said to them, "Be apes, despised." 2:265
This does not change the fact that we homosapiens are both primates and animals. there is nothing wrong with being an animal. God created all animals, and everything animals do, so why should we humans feel shame about being primates AKA creations of God?

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

:oldlol: That's your take from it?

Boy, you've got much, much, much, much more work to do.

[Nick Young]

:oldlol: That's your take from it?

Boy, you've got much, much, much, much more work to do.
That is real life and reality. I am trying to help you understand the world bro.

[Dresta]

Unreal. A simple fact (humans = primates), and none of these conservative nut jobs can accept it. It's almost as if they're programed to be wrong about everything.
It's almost like you've been programmed to be incapable of reading or understanding what other people say. It's almost as if you were too much of a brain-dead idiot to recognise any kind of nuance of argument, and so you endlessly resort to distorting the arguments of others, and then laughing at and mocking things nobody has said or argued for.

Nobody has said humans aren't primates; i'm simply quibbling about what such a categorisation means, not whether it is valid or not.

You can lump things into classifications all you like, that doesn't make two things under the same classification the same, nor does saying "human beings are primates" tell you anything about what it means to be a human being, nor the depth of the blatantly obvious differences between the species called homosapiens and every other animal species still extant.

Calling human beings primates as if you were laying down some kind of truth bomb is firstly inane and childish, and secondly, little different to saying "humans are mammals" or "humans are vertebrates" as if that somehow makes the human species any less unique, or any less different to all the other species in the animal kingdom. Effectively, it's no more than a childish attempt to be sacrilegious, think oneself a rebel, and take pride in profaning the things other people consider essential components of human dignity. So, a desire to mock, and also a desire to think conceitedly about others; this is the typical defense mechanism of the young and the insecure.

And Starface is right to point out you people's idiotic contradictions: you are so quick to proclaim humans as beasts, essentially to deny them any notion of dignity, or of equality, or of the fundamental rights that no man has a right to break, while at the same time moralising about all of these things, and not bothering to pursue your own logic to its proper conclusions. You decry everyone else for believing in things not proven by science, at the same time as choosing yourself what things you want to believe in, and what secular dogmas (completely unproven by any empirical analysis) to hold to your chest and vaunt as universal human rights (ha!). It's all a rather disgusting combination of hypocrisy, sadism and vanity. You should be ashamed.


Talks about empricism, yet can't comprehend simple taxonomic classification. :lol

Dresta proving once again he is king of faux intellectualism.
Seriously, who the hell are you, and what the f*uck are you blabbering about here? I didn't say anything about homosapiens not being primates; you're either reading what you want to read, or simply can't read or comprehend the english language in even a rudimentary way.

Please show me where I denied anything about the currently accepted taxonomic classifications (which are actually rather arbitrary btw)? You obviously don't like me whomever you are, which is probably why you've made not a single comment related to anything I have actually said, and instead just flung a childish straw man argument and some ad hominem abuse in my direction, despite my not having the slightest clue just who you are, or what your problem is. I'm guessing it's a rather big one.


Look, you couple of morons (if you aren't the same person), here are the two post i've made in this thread:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12278100&postcount=41

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12278084&postcount=40

Please, please, please, prove to everyone that you're not completely full of shit, and kindly show us all where I said anything at all about humans not being primates.

[D-Wade316]

derp derp derp
:lol :lol :lol

Reread what you wrote in response to TPC, fukktard. Basically, he was merely stating the scientific fact that chimps and humans share the closest DNA, thus humans=primates=chimps by taxonomic classification, which was a response to a contrarian post from Akra. Then you basically went off the wrong way, like you always do, by pointing out the massive difference chimps and humans have socially and intellectually, which has no bearing at all to the subject that humans are primates. So naturally, since you did not give your position on the subject beforehand you were called out. Instead, as I've said, you switched the argument on taxonomy to an argument of inter-species difference. Completely irrelevant to the topic.

:biggums:

[D-Wade316]

Hell, Nick understands this thread subject more than Dresta. :lol

[BoutPractice]

We should beware self-fulfilling prophecies to the tune that we are all savages - rational free will depends mainly upon our believing in it.

The animalistic side is the "default mode"... In order to turn on the "advanced mode" we need to be aware that there is a button, that we can press it, and that pressing it will work to our benefit.

It's as hard to explain as it is crucial to our daily experience... that we become free and deliberately rational decision makers by imagining that we are. Another metaphor than pressing a button would be putting on new glasses that change our perception of the world and therefore, what is possible in it.

We can't wish away all of our human limitations... but strictly staying in default mode adds limitations that aren't there.

[Nick Young]

It is a fallacy to believe that homosapiens do not follow the laws of nature, just like every single other animal on the planet does.

It is also fallacy to state that homosapiens are the only animals on the planet capable of rational thought.

For examples, human wars and conflicts are more brutal and savage than the wars and conflicts of any other animals on the planet. Wars have always gone on and they are obviously a part of human nature.

Have any animals created anything similar to the atomic bomb?

If we humans are so rational and above the laws of nature and instinct, why do we naturally cull ourselves off, just like every other animal on the planet does when their environment becomes unsustainable? Why do males mate-guard? Why do mothers protect and foster their young? Why have tribal conflicts existed throughout history if we are so rational and moral compared to other animals?

We are animals, just like every other animal on the planet.

One merely needs to be moderately educated in the history of civilization to recognize this.

[BoutPractice]

I haven't said the non-deliberate part of our inteligence can't be useful. It has a rationality of its own, which works most of the time.

And the violent part of humanity must serve some use as well... might have helped against predators, might have had something to do with limiting the size of the human population. (Interestingly our deliberate use of reason got us to a point where violence should no longer be necessary, but we still have it in our bodies anyway)

My only problem is that, by constantly repeating that we are only instinctual beasts, we reinforce those tendencies even though they represent only one part of what it means to be human.

[Nick Young]

My only problem is that, by constantly repeating that we are only instinctual beasts, we reinforce those tendencies even though they represent only one part of what it means to be human.
Pretending these tendencies don't exist and not mentioning them will not make them go away. Instinct is instinct. It is a huge part of our nature and will not disappear over night, or even within 10 generations.

Just look at every single society of humans documented throughout history and you see the same things all over the world, all throughout time.


It will take at least 10 thousand more years for evolution to change our instincts and nature. Evolution does not go as quickly as you think it does. The only thing different about us and people from 3,000 years ago is we have better nutrition now and so grow bigger in size.

[D-Wade316]

Nick savage. :bowdown:

[Dresta]

:lol :lol :lol

Reread what you wrote in response to TPC, fukktard. Basically, he was merely stating the scientific fact that chimps and humans share the closest DNA, thus humans=primates=chimps by taxonomic classification, which was a response to a contrarian post from Akra. Then you basically went off the wrong way, like you always do, by pointing out the massive difference chimps and humans have socially and intellectually, which has no bearing at all to the subject that humans are primates. So naturally, since you did not give your position on the subject beforehand you were called out. Instead, as I've said, you switched the argument on taxonomy to an argument of inter-species difference. Completely irrelevant to the topic.

:biggums:

Again, i'll repost the challenge I put to you in the last post:

"Look, you couple of morons (if you aren't the same person), here are the two post i've made in this thread:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12278100&postcount=41

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12278084&postcount=40

Please, please, please, prove to everyone that you're not completely full of shit, and kindly show us all where I said anything at all about humans not being primates."

I see that you haven't done so (because you can't), but have simply repeated your idiotic accusation without providing any proof (you know, the basis of empiricism).

I think you'll find that the posts of TPC asserted many things that are not scientific and cannot be asserted by any science (and one that is in fact contradicted by the findings of science):

1. That humans and monkeys are literally the same species.

2. That the idea of the afterlife has been definitively disproven by "science"

3. That God is not real and science proves it. The material world is absolute: all there is and all there ever can be, even though the scientific calculations through which we attempt to understand the known universe, show that there are many things we don't know about it, including accounting for the majority of its mass.

4. That the above are all "inconvenient truths" that only TPC has the balls and hard-as-nails scepticism to expose to the world


Apologies for correcting such nonsense :rolleyes: .

As for your own ignorance,that is well on display, and I need do nothing except quote and laugh at your brazen stupidity:


Basically, he was merely stating the scientific fact that chimps and humans share the closest DNA, thus humans=primates=chimps by taxonomic classification, which was a response to a contrarian post from Akra

Basically, eh? Looks like we have another wise guy who thinks he's a monkey, and is in fact completely ignorant regarding the human species. I suggest you go and try breeding with a Chimp, if you really think we are the same species.