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livinglegend
04-03-2016, 07:05 PM
:rolleyes:

Discuss ISH.

Dray n Klay
04-03-2016, 07:07 PM
Agreed, Ordan could only shoot layups


incoming 3ball post on 1997 Jordan midrange

Spurs m8
04-03-2016, 07:08 PM
1st - No

2nd - Points in paint are a big part of the game, so why take them away?

What a retarded thread by a retarded user.

Inferno
04-03-2016, 07:10 PM
1st - No

2nd - Points in paint are a big part of the game, so why take them away?

What a retarded thread by a retarded user.

Woosh :oldlol:

Can't wait for 2ball to come in :lol

alanLA92
04-03-2016, 07:18 PM
If you take away points in the 3 ball, Jordan s*** on Curry. :lol :lol :lol /sarcasm

3ball
04-03-2016, 07:22 PM
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Jordan's jumpshot was better than Curry's from inside 20 feet:



.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 47.9%, 71 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga



Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

JORDAN 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016: 42.5%, 200 fga



In addition superior offensive versatility, MJ's defensive impact dwarfs Curry's - this is especially true against teams that have great perimeter players, since MJ can guard guys like Magic, Lebron, or Drexler, while Curry can only defend guys like Shumpert, Delly, etc.

There's a reason Curry didn't win FMVP in last year's Finals - he only did half the job, while Iggy did the other half (defense)... Otoh, MJ performed Iggy's duties on defense by guarding Magic/Drexler, while still having a goat offensive impact - Jordan's 2-way ability is why he has 6 FMVP's, compared to Curry's 0.
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livinglegend
04-03-2016, 07:31 PM
Guys, I have never watched 90's basketball, but I know it sucked badly.
Defense was soft. Offenses were predictable. Players were not athletic.
The league was weak as a whole. Weak era.

livinglegend
04-03-2016, 07:39 PM
:rolleyes:
If you take away points from inside 20 feets, Curry would shit on Jordan.

^^^^^^
3ball avoiding this killer argument! :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
OWNED

3ball
04-03-2016, 07:44 PM
Defense was soft in previous eras.


Previous eras had the ADVANCED version of the game:


no spacing, legal hand-checking, paint-camping, no flagrant fouls


Today's era has the BEGINNER version of the game:


wide open spacing, hands-off perimeter defense, no paint-camping, flagrant fouls





Offenses were predictable.


2-pointers are scored in far more ways than 3-pointers, which is why offenses in previous eras were more diverse and sophisticated.

Today's offenses are just designed to get good 3-point looks, which means primarily screen-roll/drive-and-kick.. Rinse, repeat.. :sleeping






Players were not athletic.


The wings from MJ's era match today's era man-for-man:


...2000-2014.................1984-1998

Kobe Bryant.............. Michael Jordan
LeBron James............ Magic Johnson
Kevin Durant............. Larry Bird
Dwayne Wade........... Clyde Drexler
Russell Westbrook...... Gary Payton
Tracey McGrady......... Dominique Wilkins
James Harden........... Grant Hill
Kawhi Leonard.......... Scottie Pippen
Paul Pierce............... Adrian Dantley
Carmelo Anthony....... Alex English
Vince Carter............. James Worthy
Allen Iverson............ Penny Hardaway
Jason Kidd............... Jason Kidd


Honorable Mention 1984-1998: Doctor J, Dennis Rodman, Reggie Lewis, Reggie Miller, Sidney Moncrief, Joe Dumars, Eddie Jones, Mitch Richmond, Alvin Robertson, Detlef Schrempf, Dennis Johnson, Latrell Sprewell, Ronaldo Blackman, Fat Lever, Glen Rice, Chris Mullin, Kiki Vandeweghe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ZCbZq8wWg), Mark Aguirre, Jamaal Mashburn, Glenn Robinson

Honorable Mention 2000-2014: Ron Artest, Shawn Marion, Andre Igouodala, Ray Allen, Paul George, Manu Ginobili, Brandon Roy, Klay Thompson, Jimmy Butler, Joe Johnson, Rip Hamilton, Gilbert Arenas, Michael Redd, Draymond Green, Peja Stojakovic, Antawn Jamison, Luol Deng, Rashard Lewis



^^^^^ Remember, this is just the wing players - if we add the bigs, previous eras blow today's era to Mars

livinglegend
04-03-2016, 07:46 PM
Previous eras had the ADVANCED version of the game:


no spacing, legal hand-checking, paint-camping, no flagrant fouls


Today's era has the BEGINNER version of the game:


wide open spacing, hands-off perimeter defense, no paint-camping, flagrant fouls



2-pointers are scored in far more ways than 3-pointers, which is why offenses in previous eras were more diverse and sophisticated.

Today's offenses are just designed to get good 3-point looks, which means primarily screen-roll/drive-and-kick.. Rinse, repeat.. :sleeping




The wings from MJ's era match today's era man-for-man:


...2000-2014.................1984-1998

Kobe Bryant.............. Michael Jordan
LeBron James............ Magic Johnson
Kevin Durant............. Larry Bird
Dwayne Wade........... Clyde Drexler
Russell Westbrook...... Gary Payton
Tracey McGrady......... Dominique Wilkins
James Harden........... Grant Hill
Kawhi Leonard.......... Scottie Pippen
Paul Pierce............... Adrian Dantley
Carmelo Anthony....... Alex English
Vince Carter............. James Worthy
Allen Iverson............ Penny Hardaway
Jason Kidd............... Jason Kidd


Honorable Mention 1984-1998: Doctor J, Dennis Rodman, Reggie Lewis, Reggie Miller, Sidney Moncrief, Joe Dumars, Eddie Jones, Mitch Richmond, Alvin Robertson, Detlef Schrempf, Dennis Johnson, Latrell Sprewell, Ronaldo Blackman, Fat Lever, Glen Rice, Chris Mullin, Kiki Vandeweghe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ZCbZq8wWg), Mark Aguirre, Jamaal Mashburn, Glenn Robinson

Honorable Mention 2000-2014: Ron Artest, Shawn Marion, Andre Igouodala, Ray Allen, Paul George, Manu Ginobili, Brandon Roy, Klay Thompson, Jimmy Butler, Joe Johnson, Rip Hamilton, Gilbert Arenas, Michael Redd, Draymond Green, Peja Stojakovic, Antawn Jamison, Luol Deng, Rashard Lewis



^^^^^ Remember, this is just the wing players - if we add the bigs, previous eras blow today's era to Mars

:rolleyes:
If you take away points from inside 20 feets, Curry would shit on Jordan.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-03-2016, 08:07 PM
If u take away points in the paint Lebron would be Ason Kidd

beastee
04-03-2016, 08:09 PM
Guys, I have never watched 90's basketball, but I know it sucked badly. Weak era.
Then why in the **** would anyone care about your opinion?
/thread

Achilleas
04-03-2016, 08:10 PM
if you take away fts,midrange,paint and 3points they are useless:eek:

Bankaii
04-03-2016, 09:56 PM
If u take away points in the paint Lebron would be Ason Kidd
If you take away every other NBA team besides the Thunder and Clippers, KD and CP3 would still fail to win a ring.

fourkicks44
04-03-2016, 10:24 PM
:rolleyes:

Discuss ISH.

The greatest turnaround jumpshot in history of the universe says otherwise.

Spurs m8
04-03-2016, 10:48 PM
Instead of taking away points in the paint, why don't we take away point outside the paint?

Why are we picking and choosing which parts of a game to eliminate to suit a certain player, instead of just judging them on the game?

Classic Curry stans

ISHGoat
04-03-2016, 11:02 PM
If you take away every other NBA team besides the Thunder and Clippers, KD and CP3 would still fail to win a ring.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

knicksman
04-03-2016, 11:32 PM
And this is why bran is the worst among kobe, jordan curry. Take away all their pts in the paint then may be op will understand why 1/1, 6,6, 5/7 and 2/6:lol

knicksman
04-03-2016, 11:36 PM
Instead of taking away points in the paint, why don't we take away point outside the paint?

Why are we picking and choosing which parts of a game to eliminate to suit a certain player, instead of just judging them on the game?

Classic Curry stans

Because a jumpshot is more reliable in the clutch than layups?:confusedshrug:

Thats why bran is 2/6 and kobe 5/7 coz kobe is more reliable when it matters

Dray n Klay
04-03-2016, 11:37 PM
And this is why bran is the worst among kobe, jordan curry. Take away all their pts in the paint then may be op will understand why 1/1, 6,6, 5/7 and 2/6:lol

Curry doesnt have a winner mentality. The winners dont care about stats and wants to play off the ball instead because they knew scoring is tough when you have to do other things. Thats what separates Curry from winners (Iggy). Winners provide the most important/hardest skill to the table which is tough shot creation, while Curry provides redundant skills that can be supplied easily by other players aka passing, defense, rebounding. So the winners only need role players to win while Curry needs superstars but still only manage 0/11. This teammate excuse is laughable at best. Magic won with old ass kareem scoring only 15ppg.

knicksman
04-03-2016, 11:42 PM
Curry doesnt have a winner mentality. The winners dont care about stats and wants to play off the ball instead because they knew scoring is tough when you have to do other things. Thats what separates Curry from winners (Iggy). Winners provide the most important/hardest skill to the table which is tough shot creation, while Curry provides redundant skills that can be supplied easily by other players aka passing, defense, rebounding. So the winners only need role players to win while Curry needs superstars but still only manage 0/11. This teammate excuse is laughable at best. Magic won with old ass kareem scoring only 15ppg.

Bro, i know youre only hope of feeling like a winner is bran but he too failed you.
Thats why you become a troll so others would feel your misery.:lol

Bankaii
04-03-2016, 11:45 PM
Because a jumpshot is more reliable in the clutch than layups?
Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

coz kobe is more reliable when it matters
2nd dumbest thing I've ever heard.

knicksman
04-03-2016, 11:50 PM
Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

2nd dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Theres a reason why youre a bran stan coz youre just a stat nerd bro.

livinglegend
04-04-2016, 01:13 AM
If you take away every other NBA team besides the Thunder and Clippers, KD and CP3 would still fail to win a ring.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

deja vu
04-04-2016, 02:42 AM
If you take away points in the paint, Bosh shits on Shaq!

Bimbo Coles
04-04-2016, 02:51 AM
If you take away the court, Adam Morrison would look pretty good.

bigt
04-04-2016, 02:52 AM
Wow the joke in this thread must be a pilot, because it's going over so many heads right now...

livingby3's
04-04-2016, 03:00 AM
JJ Reddick > Shaq

Sarcastic
04-04-2016, 03:18 AM
Yea because points in the paint is a gimmick shot added by the now defunct ABA in order to spur excitement in a dying league :rolleyes:

Gileraracer
04-04-2016, 07:07 AM
You can do this all day long.

If take away 3pointers, everyone shits on Curry.

If take away the stiff arm, Lebron woud average 5PPG


You see?

livinglegend
04-04-2016, 01:41 PM
:rolleyes:
If you take away points from inside 20 feets, Curry would shit on Jordan.

poido123
04-04-2016, 01:45 PM
:rolleyes:

Discuss ISH.


Take away the basket, Curry is better at Jordan at baking cakes.


OP is possibly the dumbest muthafcker on the internet

livinglegend
04-04-2016, 01:47 PM
Take away the basket, Curry is better at Jordan at baking cakes.


OP is possibly the dumbest muthafcker on the internet

Why would we take away the basket? It doesn't make sense.

poido123
04-04-2016, 01:51 PM
Why would we take away the basket? It doesn't make sense.



This guy...

Bandito
04-04-2016, 03:06 PM
Guys, I have never watched 90's basketball, but I know it sucked badly.
Defense was soft. Offenses were predictable. Players were not athletic.
The league was weak as a whole. Weak era.
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

diamenz
04-05-2016, 10:40 AM
take away curry's arms, jordan shits on curry!


Why would we take away the basket? It doesn't make sense.

https://static.spiceworks.com/shared/post/0005/0427/Joke_over_your_head.jpg

StrongLurk
04-05-2016, 11:18 AM
Previous eras had the ADVANCED version of the game:


no spacing, legal hand-checking, paint-camping, no flagrant fouls


Today's era has the BEGINNER version of the game:


wide open spacing, hands-off perimeter defense, no paint-camping, flagrant fouls



2-pointers are scored in far more ways than 3-pointers, which is why offenses in previous eras were more diverse and sophisticated.

Today's offenses are just designed to get good 3-point looks, which means primarily screen-roll/drive-and-kick.. Rinse, repeat.. :sleeping




The wings from MJ's era match today's era man-for-man:


...2000-2014.................1984-1998

Kobe Bryant.............. Michael Jordan
LeBron James............ Magic Johnson
Kevin Durant............. Larry Bird
Dwayne Wade........... Clyde Drexler
Russell Westbrook...... Gary Payton
Tracey McGrady......... Dominique Wilkins
James Harden........... Grant Hill
Kawhi Leonard.......... Scottie Pippen
Paul Pierce............... Adrian Dantley
Carmelo Anthony....... Alex English
Vince Carter............. James Worthy
Allen Iverson............ Penny Hardaway
Jason Kidd............... Jason Kidd


Honorable Mention 1984-1998: Doctor J, Dennis Rodman, Reggie Lewis, Reggie Miller, Sidney Moncrief, Joe Dumars, Eddie Jones, Mitch Richmond, Alvin Robertson, Detlef Schrempf, Dennis Johnson, Latrell Sprewell, Ronaldo Blackman, Fat Lever, Glen Rice, Chris Mullin, Kiki Vandeweghe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ZCbZq8wWg), Mark Aguirre, Jamaal Mashburn, Glenn Robinson

Honorable Mention 2000-2014: Ron Artest, Shawn Marion, Andre Igouodala, Ray Allen, Paul George, Manu Ginobili, Brandon Roy, Klay Thompson, Jimmy Butler, Joe Johnson, Rip Hamilton, Gilbert Arenas, Michael Redd, Draymond Green, Peja Stojakovic, Antawn Jamison, Luol Deng, Rashard Lewis



^^^^^ Remember, this is just the wing players - if we add the bigs, previous eras blow today's era to Mars

Wow LOL at 3Ball acting like basketball now is the same as the early 2000's. This new Era of bball started in 2010.

livinglegend
04-05-2016, 01:22 PM
take away curry's arms, jordan shits on curry!



https://static.spiceworks.com/shared/post/0005/0427/Joke_over_your_head.jpg

your example doesn't work because if you take aay Jordan's arms, curry shits on Jordan.
It doesnt make sense anyways.
Why would we take arms away?

TYCRO
04-05-2016, 01:29 PM
your example doesn't work because if you take aay Jordan's arms, curry shits on Jordan.
It doesnt make sense anyways.
Why would we take arms away?
And what does all this have to do with Curry using Jordan as a toilet?

livinglegend
04-05-2016, 01:32 PM
:rolleyes:
They keep avoiding the FACT i'm about to about.
They have no answer for it.

livinglegend
04-05-2016, 01:32 PM
If you take away points from inside 20 feets, Curry would shit on Jordan.

Bawkish
04-05-2016, 01:38 PM
If you take away points from inside 20 feets, Curry would shit on Jordan.

if i take away my brain, i would still sh*t on you

livinglegend
04-05-2016, 01:41 PM
if i take away my brain, i would still sh*t on you

If you had a brain, you would see that the word shit has been used numerous times in this thread without being censored.

NEXT

TYCRO
04-05-2016, 01:42 PM
if i take away my brain, i would still sh*t on you
You post with that account less than 10 times per year, and that is the post you decided was worthy to bring that account back for?

AirBonner
04-05-2016, 02:02 PM
The 3-point shot doesn't win games. We saw what it did against the celtics :lol

livinglegend
04-05-2016, 02:04 PM
The 3-point shot doesn't win games. We saw what it did against the celtics :lol

it won them 69 games retard

TYCRO
04-05-2016, 02:05 PM
The 3-point shot doesn't win games. We saw what it did against the celtics :lol
:facepalm

livinglegend
04-11-2016, 01:33 PM
:rolleyes:
If you take away points from inside 20 feets, Curry would shit on Jordan.

riseagainst
04-11-2016, 01:38 PM
If you take away the right for any player to touch the basketball, then every player would be equal....

what the fck is the point of this thread?

JebronLames
04-11-2016, 01:41 PM
If you took away teammates and coaches, LeBron would be GOAT

Dro
04-11-2016, 01:42 PM
:rolleyes:
They keep avoiding the FACT i'm about to about.
They have no answer for it.
:confusedshrug: :biggums:

riseagainst
04-11-2016, 01:50 PM
if you take away everyone's arms, no one would play basketball.

3ball
04-11-2016, 02:09 PM
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Here's updated efficiency stats for jumpshots inside 20 feet.

Jordan's jumpshot was FAR better than Curry's from inside 20 feet:



.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 47.9%, 71 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga



Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

JORDAN 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016: 42.5%, 200 fga



In addition superior offensive versatility, MJ's defensive impact dwarfs Curry's - this is especially true against teams that have great perimeter players, since MJ can guard guys like Magic, Lebron, or Drexler, while Curry can only defend guys like Shumpert, Delly, etc.

There's a reason Curry didn't win FMVP in last year's Finals - he only did half the job, while Iggy did the other half (defense)... Otoh, MJ performed Iggy's duties on defense by guarding Magic/Drexler, while still having a goat offensive impact - Jordan's 2-way ability is why he has 6 FMVP's, compared to Curry's 0.

Mr Feeny
04-11-2016, 02:26 PM
:rolleyes:

Discuss ISH.If you take away nothing, Curry shits on lebron :(

kamil
04-11-2016, 02:28 PM
:rolleyes:
If you take away points from inside 20 feets, Curry would shit on Jordan.

You sound like a Trump supporter. Even when there's clear proof presented right in front of you, you still deny it.