Jordan fanboys in a nutshell

[Dr. Ice]

Bomani Jones' twitter

[QUOTE]
my mentions are full of people upset because i dared say that michael jordan wouldn

[Im Still Ballin]

Pretty funny hey. It takes a guy like Curry just to score 30 points today.

If Jordan couldn't score more than 37 more than 20 years ago with illegal defense. There's no way he'd even come close today. At most, I could see him doing 37 points again in the mid 2000's when refs were extremely harsh on 3 seconds, and handchecking and calling all the different moves like rip throughs and shit. The year when Kobe averaged 35, AI 33 and Lebron 31. By 2008 when Thibs with Boston came around though, individual scoring dropped down again

[Lebronxrings]

:oldlol:

Insecure af.

[jstern]

I remember back in the 90s Jordan saying that he could average 40 ppg, but that it would be at the cost of the team. He wasn't bragging or anything. So yeah, with today's rules Jordan could probably average 45ppg, but probably wouldn't.

[Dray n Klay]

26/6/5 on 51% is Jordans peak in this era



However, the fact that he can't shoot 3's would hurt him in this era as he would kill the spacing

[Dr Hawk]

26/6/5 on 51% is Jordans peak in this era



However, the fact that he can't shoot 3's would hurt him in this era as he would kill the spacing

http://i68.tinypic.com/bey8ec.jpg

[Dray n Klay]

http://i68.tinypic.com/bey8ec.jpg
I'm being generous :confusedshrug:



Wasn't the best MJ could do was 20/4/3 on 41% in the modern era? (2002-2003)?


Me saying a prime MJ putting up 26/6/5 on 51% seems optimistic tbh. But I have faith in MJ . :bowdown:

[Dr Hawk]

I'm being generous :confusedshrug:



Wasn't the best MJ could do was 20/4/3 on 41% in the modern era? (2002-2003)?


Me saying a prime MJ putting up 26/6/5 on 51% seems optimistic tbh. But I have faith in MJ . :bowdown:

He would easily put up 32/8/7 on 53%

[Dray n Klay]

He would easily put up 32/8/7 on 53%

Jordan getting 8 rebounds and 7 assists in a slower paced era?? :roll: :roll:



3ball has corrupted your mind

[Dr Hawk]

Jordan getting 8 rebounds and 7 assists in a slower paced era?? :roll: :roll:



3ball has corrupted your mind

If the much inferior player Harden is able to put up 29/6/8 imagine what the GOAT would do.

[Dray n Klay]

If the much inferior player Harden is able to put up 29/6/8 imagine what the GOAT would do.



Or maybe Harden just happens to be a better overall player than MJ? :confusedshrug:



Ever thought about that, oldie.

[Dr Hawk]

Or maybe Harden just happens to be a better overall player than MJ? :confusedshrug:



Ever thought about that, oldie.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/200.gif

[ballinhun8]

Or maybe Harden just happens to be a better overall player than MJ? :confusedshrug:



Ever thought about that, oldie.



Damn I don't even think your alts would agree with this simon.

[Dray n Klay]

3 point shooting Harden > Jordan

Driving to the basket (Eurostep) Harden > Jordan

Playmaking Harden > Jordan

Rebounding Jordan > Harden

Defense Jordan > Harden

Ball Handling Harden > Jordan








So Jordan is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, big woop :sleeping









I'm sure Tony Allen is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, and I doubt anyone considers Tony Allen better than Harden.

[poido123]

Bomani Jones' twitter


How long are people going to bait Jordan fans for?


Gets kind of old right?



To answer OP's thread, Jordan would possibly average more than 45

[poido123]

I'm being generous :confusedshrug:



Wasn't the best MJ could do was 20/4/3 on 41% in the modern era? (2002-2003)?


Me saying a prime MJ putting up 26/6/5 on 51% seems optimistic tbh. But I have faith in MJ . :bowdown:


At 39-40 years old :oldlol:

[Marchesk]

Never thought I'd live to see the day someone would say Harden is better than MJ, but this is ISH.

Wilt in today's era:

36/18/4 with 5 blocks

[KobesFinger]

Never thought I'd live to see the day someone would say Harden is better than MJ, but this is ISH.

Wilt in today's era:

36/18/4 with 5 blocks

Irrelevant

[TYCRO]

He would only average 40. 45 is absurd.

[Lebronxrings]

Never thought I'd live to see the day someone would say Harden is better than MJ, but this is ISH.

Wilt in today's era:

36/18/4 with 5 blocks
do you think demar derozan is a better player than james harden? Answer that honestly.

[Marchesk]

do you think demar derozan is a better player than james harden? Answer that honestly.

No. What does that have to do with Jordan? Harden is a very good player, even if his style of play is distasteful. But very good and Michael Jordan are worlds apart.

[Lebronxrings]

No. What does that have to do with Jordan? Harden is a very good player, even if his style of play is distasteful. But very good and Michael Jordan are worlds apart.
not trying to troll but derozan is basically MJ +/- 2 points. Obviously Jordan looked great back then, but harden is clearly superior, come on.

[Jasper]

I remember back in the 90s Jordan saying that he could average 40 ppg, but that it would be at the cost of the team. He wasn't bragging or anything. So yeah, with today's rules Jordan could probably average 45ppg, but probably wouldn't.

Exactly -

When Jordan was first onto the league it was give me the ball and clearout.
Finally it was Phil JAx , that convinced him to play into a system that would win chips./

[zbott]

Or maybe Harden just happens to be a better overall player than MJ? :confusedshrug:



Ever thought about that, oldie.


:biggums: I'm not anti-Harden in any way - but better than Jordan ... cmon man ....

[Spurs m8]

Some people just have such wrong opinions lol

[G0ATbe]

Jordan is the most overrated player in any sport ever:lol . The guy was ahead of his time athletically, thats it. And was probably on PEDs. He'd be a top 10 player in the league right now in his prime because he wouldnt superior to anyone athletically.

[Spurs m8]

Jordan is the most overrated player in any sport ever:lol . The guy was ahead of his time athletically, thats it. And was probably on PEDs. He'd be a top 10 player in the league right now in his prime because he wouldnt superior to anyone athletically.

Let me guess....you think Kobe is better?

Exactly.

Stupid mofo

[G0ATbe]

Let me guess....you think Kobe is better?

Exactly.

Stupid mofo
I'm not gonna sit here and debate with inferior Jordan fans. Why get into a debate when I know I've already won? :pimp:

[FKAri]

If the much inferior player Harden is able to put up 29/6/8 imagine what the GOAT would do.
But Harden is exorbitantly ball dominant. He wouldn't be putting up those numbers on a championship caliber team.

[Quickening]

highest ppg was 37, yet he is going to improve that by 8 ppg in an era where less points are scored :lol

If he shot jacked like he did in the 80s, he could probably average around 35 ppg... but Curry would still be a better player offensively as he does it on better efficiency, within the flow of the game and it gives huge spacing to team mates.

[Spurs m8]

I'm not gonna sit here and debate with inferior Jordan fans. Why get into a debate when I know I've already won? :pimp:

Loser talk

[Marchesk]

not trying to troll but derozan is basically MJ +/- 2 points. Obviously Jordan looked great back then, but harden is clearly superior, come on.

Not trying to feed the troll (is there anything else on ISH?), but I'd add +/- 6 FMVPs to that.

[knicksman]

3 point shooting Harden > Jordan

Driving to the basket (Eurostep) Harden > Jordan

Playmaking Harden > Jordan

Rebounding Jordan > Harden

Defense Jordan > Harden

Ball Handling Harden > Jordan








So Jordan is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, big woop :sleeping









I'm sure Tony Allen is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, and I doubt anyone considers Tony Allen better than Harden.

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[diamenz]

the lack of jordan knowledge on this board by the next generation really blows my mind.

[3ball]

the fact that he can't shoot 3's would hurt him in this era


Today's wings don't need to be good shooters to be top scorers - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency!

But they're still the top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.

The spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he'd also have GOAT midrange efficiency (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12277112&postcount=6), which would give him a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.

[JohnMax]

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[bigkingsfan]

Wouldn't even average 35 today

[TYCRO]

3 point shooting Harden > Jordan

Driving to the basket (Eurostep) Harden > Jordan

Playmaking Harden > Jordan

Rebounding Jordan > Harden

Defense Jordan > Harden

Ball Handling Harden > Jordan








So Jordan is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, big woop :sleeping









I'm sure Tony Allen is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, and I doubt anyone considers Tony Allen better than Harden.
:roll:

[JebronLames]

he would average 29/6/6 on 45%

[3ball]

he would average 29 ppg on 45%
You think his stats would be the same as 1998 stats when he was 35 years old?... and when league-average PPG, pace, and ORtg was significantly lower than today's game?

Nah... 25 year old Jordan would do far better than that, especially with today's hands-off perimeter defense and a bunch of 3-point shooting teammates to spread the floor for him.

On a bad team, he'd get 40+.... On a good team, he'd get 30-35 depending on what the team needed to win.

[Gileraracer]

Wouldn't even average 35 today

What an insult

[CP3PO]

You think his stats would be the same as 1998 stats when he was 35 years old?... and when league-average PPG, pace, and ORtg was significantly lower than today's game?

Nah... 25 year old Jordan would do far better than that, especially with today's hands-off perimeter defense and a bunch of 3-point shooting teammates to spread the floor for him.

On a bad team, he'd get 40+.... On a good team, he'd get 30-35 depending on what the team needed to win.
No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.

[3ball]

No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.


6'3" Westbrook led the league in scoring last season despite poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency.

Otoh, 6'6" Jordan had GOAT midrange efficiency - it was literally 12 percentage points higher than guys like Lebron and Westbrook:

JORDAN....... 1997 MIDRANGE: 48.9%
WESTBROOK. 2015 MIDRANGE: 36.9%
LEBRON....... 2016 MIDRANGE: 36.5%


Players simply DON'T need to be good shooters to be top scorers in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Butler, Wade and Derozan have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency, but they're still the top scorers because today's spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.

The spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he had GOAT midrange efficiency, which would give him a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.

[Showtime2001]

http://i68.tinypic.com/bey8ec.jpg
:lol

[Da_Realist]

No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.

:roll:

[Marchesk]

No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.

Jordan would get 30 in any era. He averaged 33 in the postseason, against the best teams in the 80s and 90s. He wouldn't have to shoot 3s. He's Jordan, and the rules favor perimeter players, and the rim protection is not what it was in his era.

It doesn't matter what anyone says, Jordan was the best perimeter player of all-time, and there really is no debate. The only debate is comparing him to the GOAT centers. That's it.

You had entire teams built to stop Jordan, like the Knicks, and they couldn't do it.

[100grandman]

There should be no such thing as a Jordan fanboy imo. People that recognize him as the goat just understand basketball better.

[ClipperRevival]

If these youngsters saw MJ play, they would just know the truth. But they will just have to learn the hard way, letting the truth sink in as time passes by and recognizing that pretty much everyone who played and coached the game continue to herald him as the GOAT. Even LeBron and Kobe said he is the GOAT. Personally, having watched MJ, I always judge any great player against MJ so in that sense, I'm a bit spoiled. Almost all MJ fans are spoiled because we witnessed bball at the highest level ever played. I understand the young kids who saw Kobe, LeBron or Curry play and they think no one could've been better. But there was.