Larry Bird vs. Kobe Bryant

[Lebron23]

Who do you think is the better basketball player?

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[kurple]

The best SF of all time

[IllegalD]

Who do you think is the better basketball player?

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Both better than LeBron, is all that matters. :cheers:

[aj1987]

Better player? Bird and quite easily. All-time ranking?

1. MJ
2. KAJ
3. BR
4. Shaq
5. Magic
6. Duncan
7. LeBron
8. Kobe
9. Bird
10. Wilt

[StephHamann]

Best SF of all time > 2nd best SG of all time

[Prime_Shaq]

The best SF of all time
This

[IllegalD]

I'm gonna' have to go with the guy who wasn't carried to a ring by a non-allstar (Cedric Maxwell, only Finals MVP in NBA history to never even make an allstar game in his entire career)

[kurple]

Maxwell > 2015 Iggy

[aj1987]

I'm gonna' have to go with the guy who wasn't carried to a ring by a non-allstar (Cedric Maxwell, only Finals MVP in NBA history to never even make an allstar game in his entire career)
Celtics in '79 - 29 wins
Celtics in '80 - 61 wins

Lakers with Shaq in '04 - 56 wins
Lakers without Shaq in '05 - 34 wins

Lakers with Gasol in '08 - 57 wins (81.5% win percentage with Gasol. 65% win percentage without Gasol --- 68 win pace with and 53 without)
Lakers without Gasol in '07 - 42 wins

[IllegalD]

Celtics in '79 - 29 wins
Celtics in '80 - 61 wins

Lakers with Shaq in '04 - 56 wins
Lakers without Shaq in '05 - 34 wins

Lakers with Gasol in '08 - 57 wins (81.5% win percentage with Gasol. 65% win percentage without Gasol --- 68 win pace with and 53 without)
Lakers without Gasol in '07 - 42 wins


Wade without Shaq in '04 - 42 wins

Wade with Shaq in '05 - 59 wins
Wade with Shaq in '06 - 52 wins

Wade without Shaq in '08 - 15 wins (OUCH!!!) :eek:
Wade without Shaq in '09 - 43 wins

Wade with LeBron in '11 - 58 wins
Wade with LeBron in '12 - 46 wins (lockout season)
Wade with LeBron in '13 - 66 wins
Wade with LeBron in '14 - 54 wins

Wade without LeBron in '15 - 37 wins


(all in the pathetic Leastern Conference, mind you)

Put that in your pipe and smoke it you Wade Stanley queermo. :applause:

[SpaceJam]

Wade without Shaq in '04 - 42 wins

Wade with Shaq in '05 - 59 wins
Wade with Shaq in '06 - 52 wins

Wade without Shaq in '08 - 15 wins (OUCH!!!) :eek:
Wade without Shaq in '09 - 43 wins

Wade with LeBron in '11 - 58 wins
Wade with LeBron in '12 - 46 wins (lockout season)
Wade with LeBron in '13 - 66 wins
Wade with LeBron in '14 - 54 wins

Wade without LeBron in '15 - 37 wins


(all in the pathetic Leastern Conference, mind you)

Put that in your pipe and smoke it you Wade Stanley queermo. :applause:

well played :biggums:

[aj1987]

Wade without Shaq in '04 - 42 wins

Wade with Shaq in '05 - 59 wins
Wade with Shaq in '06 - 52 wins

Wade without Shaq in '08 - 15 wins (OUCH!!!) :eek:
Wade without Shaq in '09 - 43 wins

Wade with LeBron in '11 - 58 wins
Wade with LeBron in '12 - 46 wins (lockout season)
Wade with LeBron in '13 - 66 wins
Wade with LeBron in '14 - 54 wins

Wade without LeBron in '15 - 37 wins


(all in the pathetic Leastern Conference, mind you)

Put that in your pipe and smoke it you Wade Stanley queermo. :applause:
I'm not comparing Wade to Bird, shit for brains.

BTW, I know you're a dumbass, but even you should know that Shaq played for Miami in '08 (half a season). Miami was 8-25 in the games he played. 19 win pace.

Also, stop deflecting, bitch boy. Respond to this:

Celtics in '79 - 29 wins
Celtics in '80 - 61 wins

Lakers with Shaq in '04 - 56 wins
Lakers without Shaq in '05 - 34 wins

Lakers with Gasol in '08 - 57 wins (81.5% win percentage with Gasol. 65% win percentage without Gasol --- 68 win pace with and 53 without)
Lakers without Gasol in '07 - 42 wins

[IllegalD]

I'm not comparing Wade to Bird, shit for brains.

BTW, I know you're a dumbass, but even you should know that Shaq played for Miami in '08 (half a season). Miami was 8-25 in the games he played. 19 win pace.

Also, stop deflecting, bitch boy. Respond to this:

Celtics in '79 - 29 wins
Celtics in '80 - 61 wins

Lakers with Shaq in '04 - 56 wins
Lakers without Shaq in '05 - 34 wins

Lakers with Gasol in '08 - 57 wins (81.5% win percentage with Gasol. 65% win percentage without Gasol --- 68 win pace with and 53 without)
Lakers without Gasol in '07 - 42 wins

I did respond, f*ggot. I used the exact same f*ggot tactics as you of cherry picking out of context stats. :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

I did respond, f*ggot. I used the exact same f*ggot tactics as you of cherry picking out of context stats. :confusedshrug:
Can you stop choking on Kobe's dick for a moment. I really can't understand what you're saying.


I'm gonna' have to go with the guy who wasn't carried to a ring by a non-allstar (Cedric Maxwell, only Finals MVP in NBA history to never even make an allstar game in his entire career)


Celtics in '79 - 29 wins
Celtics in '80 - 61 wins

Lakers with Shaq in '04 - 56 wins
Lakers without Shaq in '05 - 34 wins

Lakers with Gasol in '08 - 57 wins (81.5% win percentage with Gasol. 65% win percentage without Gasol --- 68 win pace with and 53 without)
Lakers without Gasol in '07 - 42 wins

You bringing up Wade just proves that you lost, retard. Hold this L and go back to choking.

[Lebronxrings]

dam Aj with the ethers. :oldlol:

[pauk]

Individually:

Larry Bird, he was the most skilled player i have ever seen. I think his peak was better aswell, but Kobe had better longevity.

Accolades:

Larry Bird, no need to pile up everything here, he had more significant accolades.

Kobe is close tho in both departments, both are in my top 10 list, Bird just a nudge higher up.

[feyki]

Only one player can match Bird after millenium . And that is Duncan .

[Round Mound]

Bird. Better All Around Player!

[IllegalD]

Bird. Better All Around Player!


So defense doesn't count? :confusedshrug:

[FillJackson]

I'm gonna' have to go with the guy who wasn't carried to a ring by a non-allstar (Cedric Maxwell, )
Anyone who thinks Bird was carried in 1981 knows nothing about those playoffs.

[IllegalD]

Anyone who thinks Bird was carried in 1981 knows nothing about those playoffs.


You mean kinda like the people who say Kobe was carried to his last 2 rings by Gasol? :confusedshrug:

[BIZARRO]

Anyone who thinks Bird was carried in 1981 knows nothing about those playoffs.

Or basketball.

[BIZARRO]

Kobe was a better lockdown defender than Larry, and I have them both Top 10 all time as players in general.......

But as far as overall defense and impact, I'll take Larry Legend every day of the week.....Saw both in their prime, and Larry just made much more of a difference......Watch the first 1:40 of this vid (and the whole thing), and educate yourself..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpEAZMT5t_U

[Lebronxrings]

one is a top 10 player the other is 12th.

10th ranked>>>>>>>12th ranked

[ShawkFactory]

You mean kinda like the people who say Kobe was carried to his last 2 rings by Gasol? :confusedshrug:
So you're projecting the most blatant trolls on the site.

What does that make you?

[bizil]

The only perimeter player FOR SURE I would take over Bird peak wise is MJ. Magic, Bron, and Kobe u could make a case for as well. Due to making teammates better, I would choose Bird over Kobe. Even though Kobe is the superior two way player. Kobe would also catch cases of hero ball to the detriment of his team more than Bird EVER WOULD.

I realize Kobe played on some bad teams and had to get up shots. But Bird would make his teammates better than Kobe AND dominate scoring. If Bird wasn't playing on those deep Boston teams, I'M CONVINCED he would have took some scoring titles from MJ.

[JT123]

Shooting - Bird
Footwork - Bird
Rebounding - Bird
Passing - Bird
Leadership - Bird
Clutch play - Bird by a mile

There is not a single thing Kobe does better than Bird other than dunking, and that's only due to his natural god given athleticism. When it comes to actual basketball skill Kobe is not even in Bird's tier.

[Round Mound]

So defense doesn't count? :confusedshrug:

Ofcourse It Does Check out Bird`s Defensive Rating and Defensive Win Shares. All higher than Kobe`s (the most overrated defender ever).