Looking back, how the hell did Kobe win a Game 7 despite going 6/24?

[TrueBlue89]

I genuinely cannot think of a single superstar in NBA history that has won a Championship despite playing that poorly in a do or die game. :biggums:

[Im Still Ballin]

Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Ron Artest, Derrick Fisher

[keep-itreal]

he had Gasol and Bynum to grab his bricks

[Im Still Ballin]

The Kobe-assist is a lethal weapon

[Showtime2001]

Didn't he grab 15 rebounds?

[jstern]

In an interview back in 2010, Lebron said that Kobe having such a game was one of the major reasons he joined the Heat.

If Kobe had a decent shooting game, then Lebron to the Heat might have never happened. The NBA could have been so different. And all because of 6/24.

[Im Still Ballin]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006170LAL.html

[Im Still Ballin]

Lmao 20 more free throws for Lakeshow

[SouBeachTalents]

Duncan didn't play well in Game 7 in '05 either

[Im Still Ballin]

23 offensive rebounds to 8

That won em the game

[f0und]

Didn't he grab 15 rebounds?

gasol had 18 rebounds, 9 of them offensive

[Dr Hawk]

The Lakers won the game thanks to the offensive rebounds. They grabbed 23!! That's huge. Pau grabbed 9 of them. Garnett should have done a better job, he only grabbed 3 total rebounds. I blame him a lot for this Celtics loss

[Im Still Ballin]

Garnett had 3 rebounds

Dude got bullied by them lakeshow boys

[Showtime2001]

gasol had 18 rebounds, 9 of them offensive
15 rebounds for a shooting guard is pretty impressive.

[ArbitraryWater]

15 rebounds for a shooting guard is pretty impressive.

you gotta watch the game, famo.. bigs just moved out of the way so Kobe could fulfill his stat pad needs and make his terrible game look just mediocre.

[Showtime2001]

you gotta watch the game, famo.. bigs just moved out of the way so Kobe could fulfill his stat pad needs and make his terrible game look just mediocre.
I watched the game and clearly you're wrong.

[SouBeachTalents]

15 rebounds for a shooting guard is pretty impressive.

Shooting 6/24 with twice as many turnovers than assists is not. People always talk about Ray bailing LeBron out, well Kobe got bailed out big time in this game. Look how ridiculed this performance already is, if Kobe lost playing that way while losing Game 7 of the Finals at home, it'd have merit as one of the most infamous losses in league history.

[StephHamann]

I genuinely cannot think of a single superstar in NBA history that has won a Championship despite playing that poorly in a do or die game. :biggums:

He held Allen to 3-14 and played great defense on Ray Allen.

He grabbed 15 boards, second most of all players.

He scored 23 points, more than any other player in that game, because he attacked the rim and got to the FT line.

[Gileraracer]

you gotta watch the game, famo.. bigs just moved out of the way so Kobe could fulfill his stat pad needs and make his terrible game look just mediocre.

Yeah they decided in the blink of an eye that no opponent was near but Kobe and let him catch it. you are just stupid :facepalm

[34-24 Footwork]

Same story.

Excuses why Kobe has so many wins.

Excuses why Lebron has so many losses.


Vicious cycle. Lebron is about to lose with Kevin Love and Kyrie on his side :applause:

It will make for great TV

[Lebron23]

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/292557-2/Metta+World+Peace+and+Pau+Gasol+Celebrate+a+play.J PG

[Lebron23]

He held Allen to 3-14 and played great defense on Ray Allen.

He grabbed 15 boards, second most of all players.

He scored 23 points, more than any other player in that game, because he attacked the rim and got to the FT line.


So you are really a Kobetard? I bet you are a F*cking Pinoy. Putang Ina mo gago.

[stalkerforlife]

10 points down the stretch of the 4th...when the game actually mattered.

[Im Still Ballin]

10 points down the stretch of the 4th...when the game actually mattered.
"Nothing Else Matters"

[stalkerforlife]

"Nothing Else Matters"

:rockon:

[dynasty1978]

Looking back, how the hell did the Spurs survive the Pistons in the 05 finals, with Duncan shooting 37% in game 7 (and 29% and 33% in games 3&4) . For an elite PF/C, that is rather dismal.

Looking back, how the hell did the Cavs push the celtics to 7 games, with Lebron shooting 8 for freaking 40 (20%) in games 1 and 2.

It's a crazy concept I know, but supporting casts can actually cover for their star player until said player actually wakes up. :rolleyes:

[Andrei89]

I watched the game and clearly you're wrong.

Lol at this liar. If you truly watch the game you will know. He stat padded at least 10 of his rebounds. There was literally no threat as the Celtics that game did not crash the offensive boards. On each miss they went back on defense. Kobe screaming his lungs out at Gasol " I got it"

L
E
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[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah they decided in the blink of an eye that no opponent was near but Kobe and let him catch it. you are just stupid :facepalm

Um, you realize defensive rebounds are often uncontested?

The Celtics notoriously did this with Bird so he could start the break... learn up, son. Players know whats around them.

[Lebron23]

Andrei89, and Arbitrarywater educating the Kobetards.

[Showtime2001]

Lebron23 melting down all over ISH.

[Lebron23]

Lebron23 melting down all over ISH.

I am drinking my beers right now, and eating cashew nuts while slaying some trolls in the other threads.

It feels good.

[TYCRO]

I genuinely cannot think of a single superstar in NBA history that has won a Championship despite playing that poorly in a do or die game. :biggums:
Because he didn't win the game. His teammates carried him to that W.

[TYCRO]

I am drinking my beers right now, and eating cashew nuts while slaying some trolls in the other threads.

It feels good.
I haven't seen you slay a darned thing.

[MMM]

He held Allen to 3-14 and played great defense on Ray Allen.

He grabbed 15 boards, second most of all players.

He scored 23 points, more than any other player in that game, because he attacked the rim and got to the FT line.

He didn't even guard Ray. He played roaming defense off Rondo

[CP3PO]

he had Gasol and Bynum to grab his bricks
This, plus some timely Artest bail outs.

[TheMarkMadsen]

lmao Lebron won playoff games last year shooting 10-30 for 25 points with 8 turnovers and closed out a series shooting 7-23 for 15 points

and yall still have the nerve to make this thread :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Showtime2001]

I haven't seen you slay a darned thing.
Because he's the one usually getting slayed.

[dazzer87]

http://www.ballermindframe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NBA-Refs.jpg

[Cold soul]

Kobe didn't shoot ball well in game 7 but he did play good defense and grabbed 15 clutch rebounds.

[StephHamann]

So you are really a Kobetard? I bet you are a F*cking Pinoy. Putang Ina mo gago.

What? I just pointed out 3 facts, Kobe shot like shit, but he stepped up on the other end of the court. Defense is 50% of the game.

And i don't speak 3rd world.

[dazzer87]

AND taking over 20+ FT in the 4th didnt help........:roll:

[choppermagic]

That entire series was a grind.

but in a game decided by REBOUNDs, kobe grabbed 15 of them and kept the defensive focus squarely on him, giving the others more room. Kobe also scored 10 points in the critical 4th quarter.

The most important stat is the Win. people are focused on FG% only because it's Kobe.

[Fire Colangelo]

lmao Lebron won playoff games last year shooting 10-30 for 25 points with 8 turnovers and closed out a series shooting 7-23 for 15 points

and yall still have the nerve to make this thread :oldlol: :oldlol:

and still better than 6/24 :oldlol:

[riseagainst]

you gotta watch the game, famo.. bigs just moved out of the way so Kobe could fulfill his stat pad needs and make his terrible game look just mediocre.

This is just desperation.

[riseagainst]

"Nothing Else Matters"

Except the W!

:rockon:

[warriorfan]

If you watched that game 7, it was a battle where Kobe was injured and facing one of the best team defenses in the Modern Era. Kobe was having a hard time scoring due to the reasons mentioned above but still was able to gut out a gritty performance getting 15 rebounds and playing incredible defense. His shot wasn't falling but he dug deep and found other ways to impact the game when his team needed him most and lead them to the win. Guess who had the best +/- on the Lakers for that game 7? Kobe Bryant (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006170LAL.html)

Do you think LeBron would be able to pull out a performance of that caliber? We all know LeBron has no mental toughness and as soon as his bread and butter offense stops working and he faces adversity he mentally checks out of the game and concedes. He has done it literally dozens of times and it is a large reason for the fact of "2 of 6".

[riseagainst]

Um, you realize defensive rebounds are often uncontested?

The Celtics notoriously did this with Bird so he could start the break... learn up, son. Players know whats around them.


Same could be said of Lebron's rebounds. So which is it, is Lebron a good rebounder or not? Is he stat padding because his teammates force him the rebound like how you claim Kobe's teammates were doing?

Choose one and be consistent, don't flip flop between players you hate and players you love to fill your agenda.

[warriorfan]

Same could be said of Lebron's rebounds. So which is it, is Lebron a good rebounder or not? Is he stat padding because his teammates force him the rebound like how you claim Kobe's teammates were doing?

Choose one and be consistent, don't flip flop between players you hate and players you love to fill your agenda.

Yeah. The funniest part about it is that is LeBron's calling card, not Kobe's. :oldlol:

Even if his claim was true...how does it explain Kobe leading the Lakers in +/- for the game 7? If he was supposedly only bricking shots and stat padding rebounds it seems like it would be hard for him to be the most impacting player on the team.

[ImKobe]

neither team was scoring efficiently...it was a battle on the boards and both teams playing hard on the defensive end...Kobe's shot was off (as was everyone else's) but he closed the game out just fine and they won the series...he had the 2nd best DRTG behind Artest in that game among all starters, Allen and Pierce shot a combined 8/29 while KG and Sheed shot 13/24

anyone saying he didn't deserve the MVP should check out his scoring the first 6 games

[SwayDizzle]

kobe was CLUTCH

[TheMarkMadsen]

and still better than 6/24 :oldlol:


Lebron took 23 shots to score 15 points. Got outscored by Delly and padded his stats in the 4th. Cavs were up by 15 in the 4th and Lebron only had 11 points. He scored his last 5 point while the team was up by 20 :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kobe took 24 shots to score 23 points. Had as many rebounds as Lebron had points. Led his team in scoring and had 10 points in the 4th as he helped the team crawl back and won the game.

Kobe's game was much better

[dynasty1978]

Lebron took 23 shots to score 15 points. Got outscored by Delly and padded his stats in the 4th. Cavs were up by 15 in the 4th and Lebron only had 11 points. He scored his last 5 point while the team was up by 20 :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kobe took 24 shots to score 23 points. Had as many rebounds as Lebron had points. Led his team in scoring and had 10 points in the 4th as he helped the team crawl back and won the game.

Kobe's game was much better

That's a wrap. Bron lovers will cover their ears of course. Worse than Trump fans.

[Showtime2001]

Lebron took 23 shots to score 15 points. Got outscored by Delly and padded his stats in the 4th. Cavs were up by 15 in the 4th and Lebron only had 11 points. He scored his last 5 point while the team was up by 20 :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kobe took 24 shots to score 23 points. Had as many rebounds as Lebron had points. Led his team in scoring and had 10 points in the 4th as he helped the team crawl back and won the game.

Kobe's game was much better
https://m.popkey.co/7e8e08/rbdWv.gif

[riseagainst]

Lebron took 23 shots to score 15 points. Got outscored by Delly and padded his stats in the 4th. Cavs were up by 15 in the 4th and Lebron only had 11 points. He scored his last 5 point while the team was up by 20 :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kobe took 24 shots to score 23 points. Had as many rebounds as Lebron had points. Led his team in scoring and had 10 points in the 4th as he helped the team crawl back and won the game.

Kobe's game was much better


holy sh.it......


:applause:

[KungFuJoe]

I remember that game. It seemed more about the Celtics choking than the Lakers winning. And this is coming from a Lakers fan.

Role players stepped up.

If you look at all the last champs that's what it comes down to. Role players who step up. Even with Lebron/Miami's first ring...chalmers came up big time. And we all know what Ray did.

[rasko]

Celtics were the better team imo,they win 6/7 times out of 10.

[Fire Colangelo]

Lebron took 23 shots to score 15 points. Got outscored by Delly and padded his stats in the 4th. Cavs were up by 15 in the 4th and Lebron only had 11 points. He scored his last 5 point while the team was up by 20 :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kobe took 24 shots to score 23 points. Had as many rebounds as Lebron had points. Led his team in scoring and had 10 points in the 4th as he helped the team crawl back and won the game.

Kobe's game was much better

Ah yes, the typical "took x amount of shots to score y amount of points" argument.

You do realize free throws are ALSO shot attempts? A game where Kobe shot 15 free throws to LeBron's 2 free throws?

Kobe basically took one more shot + 13 more freethrows to score 8 more points, woohoo.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Probably because BOTH the Lakers and Celtics shot the ball terribly.

That was an UGLY game 7.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Ah yes, the typical "took x amount of shots to score y amount of points" argument.

You do realize free throws are ALSO shot attempts? A game where Kobe shot 15 free throws to LeBron's 2 free throws?

Kobe basically took one more shot + 13 more freethrows to score 8 more points, woohoo.


Great argument.

Getting out scored by a bench player while closing out the series, going 7-23 and not being able to draw any fouls while stat padding in garbage time. (His team had the game in the bag while he had 11 points.. ) Is better than being th leader scorer for your team, scoring 10 in the 4th (Lebron had 11 with the game in hand ) grabbing 15 rebounds and closing out the series with clutch free throws

:roll: :roll:

[Straight_Ballin]

Shooting 6/24 with twice as many turnovers than assists is not. People always talk about Ray bailing LeBron out, well Kobe got bailed out big time in this game. Look how ridiculed this performance already is, if Kobe lost playing that way while losing Game 7 of the Finals at home, it'd have merit as one of the most infamous losses in league history.

Did you just say that a miracle shot by Shuttlesworth is the equivalent of offensive rebounds? :lol

[Fire Colangelo]

Great argument.

Getting out scored by a bench player while closing out the series, going 7-23 and not being able to draw any fouls while stat padding in garbage time. (His team had the game in the bag while he had 11 points.. ) Is better than being th leader scorer for your team, scoring 10 in the 4th (Lebron had 11 with the game in hand ) grabbing 15 rebounds and closing out the series with clutch free throws

:roll: :roll:

I know scoring points is all that matters to you, but LeBron had 11 assists that game as well.

Fact is he went 6/24
Fact is LeBron never shot below 25% while his team won the game.


:roll:

But now Kobe's rebounds matter! Especially when you kobe stans called out LeBron for statpadding his 13RPG in the finals last year.

[SouBeachTalents]

Did you just say that a miracle shot by Shuttlesworth is the equivalent of offensive rebounds? :lol

No, that this loss imo would have been nearly as devastating for Kobe as LeBron losing in 2013 would have been

[Jacks3]

The better question is...how did he manage to put up 29+/6/6/2/25 PER/33%USG/116 ORTG over the course of the entire post-season while playing on busted knee, wearing a giant splint on a broken finger on his shooting hand, AND dealing with a bone chip in his ankle? Incredible.

And he did this while playing with two slow, plodding 7-footers killing the spacing, another crappy shooter in Odom, and the worst offensive SF in basketball in Ron Artest? Unlike others...he's dominated even on teams with terrible spacing.

Amazing.:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[TheMarkMadsen]

I know scoring points is all that matters to you, but LeBron had 11 assists that game as well.

Fact is he went 6/24
Fact is LeBron never shot below 25% while his team won the game.


:roll:

But now Kobe's rebounds matter! Especially when you kobe stans called out LeBron for statpadding his 13RPG in the finals last year.


this is how stupid bran stans are

they think that going 7-23 for 15 points is better than 6-24 for 23 points

you can't make this shit up

:roll:

Lebron stans seriously think that having 11 points while your team is up 20 is better than scoring 23 points while hitting game clinching shots/free throws.

Lebron scores 15 points on 31% TS and wins by 20, Kobe scores 23 points on 38% TS and barely wins the game.. who's team needed who more..?

Lebron shits the bed and his team closes out a playoff series with ease,

Kobe shits the bed less, and his team still needs 10 points from Kobe (which is about how many Lebron scored in this entire game while it was still competitive) in the 4th to barely win the game

Let's not forget that in this same series Lebron had games of 8-25 with 7 turnovers, 10-30 with 8 turnovers and 7-23 in the same series and his team still won..

sit your ass down :oldlol:

[Smoke117]

this is how stupid bran stans are

they think that going 7-23 for 15 points is better than 6-24 for 23 points

you can't make this shit up

:roll:

Lebron stans seriously think that having 11 points while your team is up 20 is better than scoring 23 points while hitting game clinching shots/free throws.

Lebron scores 15 points on 31% TS and wins by 20, Kobe scores 23 points on 38% TS and barely wins the game.. who's team needed who more..?

Lebron shits the bed and his team closes out a playoff series with ease,

Kobe shits the bed less, and his team still needs 10 points from Kobe (which is about how many Lebron scored in this entire game while it was still competitive) in the 4th to barely win the game

Let's not forget that in this same series Lebron had games of 8-25 with 7 turnovers, 10-30 with 8 turnovers and 7-23 in the same series and his team still won..

sit your ass down :oldlol:

This bitch just can't stop melting down...:roll: :roll: :roll:

[ballinhun8]

This bitch just can't stop melting down...:roll: :roll: :roll:


Not really tho. He Ethered the dude 6 ft deep



Good job madsen

[HOoopCityJones]

this is how stupid bran stans are

they think that going 7-23 for 15 points is better than 6-24 for 23 points

you can't make this shit up

:roll:

Lebron stans seriously think that having 11 points while your team is up 20 is better than scoring 23 points while hitting game clinching shots/free throws.

Lebron scores 15 points on 31% TS and wins by 20, Kobe scores 23 points on 38% TS and barely wins the game.. who's team needed who more..?

Lebron shits the bed and his team closes out a playoff series with ease,

Kobe shits the bed less, and his team still needs 10 points from Kobe (which is about how many Lebron scored in this entire game while it was still competitive) in the 4th to barely win the game

Let's not forget that in this same series Lebron had games of 8-25 with 7 turnovers, 10-30 with 8 turnovers and 7-23 in the same series and his team still won..

sit your ass down :oldlol:

Holy shit. :applause:

[Bankaii]

Because the Lakers were stacked af.
Kobe's been bailed out by dominant from courts his entire career due to him being arguably the worst Finals performer of any top 10 GOAT.
5 rangz doe:roll:

[Lebron23]

Because the Lakers were stacked af.
Kobe's been bailed out by dominant from courts his entire career due to him being arguably the worst Finals performer of any top 10 GOAT.
5 rangz doe:roll:


Hey Bankaii. It's sucks that jeff disabled the PM. I remember you challenging that stiff Freezingtsmoove into a basketball showdown videos. The Big mouth is still ducking the challenge.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389968

[rmt]

His team mates - especially Artest - bailed him out.

"Ron Artest was the most valuable player tonight," Phil Jackson said. "He brought life to our team."
http://www.webcitation.org/5wfrwRtjY

"... the more I tried to push, the more it kept getting away from me.”
"... I wanted it so bad, and sometimes when you want it so bad, it slips away from you. My guys picked me up.” - Kobe
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2010061713

[Nick Young]

15 Boards and shutting down Ray Allen.

GOAT rebounding performance by a shooting guard in any game 7 PERIOD.
+Elite defense to shut down one of the best shooters ever Ray Ray.

[IllegalD]

Kobe's "worst game ever" is still comparable to Gasol and Artest's best games of their career. So Kobe at his worst is still comparable to Gasol/Artest at their best. EVERYONE shot like sh*t that game. Because it was a grind it out defensive game.

Kobe: 23 PTS, 15 TRB on 25% FG, 11-15 FTs, elite defense on Ray Allen
Gasol: 19 PTS, 18 TRB on 38% FG
Artest: 20 PTS, 5 TRB, 5 STL on 39% FG

Paul Pierce: 33% FG
Ray Allen: 21% FG


And since everyone keeps sighting "dat dominant frontcourt".

Bynum: 2 PTS, 6 REBs on 20% FG, game-low -12 +/- :roll:
Odom: 7 PTS, 7 REBs on 38% FG

To cap it off, Kobe assisted/created the most memorable and crucial play of the game, drawing the defensive attention and passing it to Artest for the 3... BANG!!

https://youtu.be/0Vu9-3wV4PY

:rockon: :banana: :applause: :bowdown:

[34-24 Footwork]

this is how stupid bran stans are

they think that going 7-23 for 15 points is better than 6-24 for 23 points

you can't make this shit up

:roll:

Lebron stans seriously think that having 11 points while your team is up 20 is better than scoring 23 points while hitting game clinching shots/free throws.

Lebron scores 15 points on 31% TS and wins by 20, Kobe scores 23 points on 38% TS and barely wins the game.. who's team needed who more..?

Lebron shits the bed and his team closes out a playoff series with ease,

Kobe shits the bed less, and his team still needs 10 points from Kobe (which is about how many Lebron scored in this entire game while it was still competitive) in the 4th to barely win the game

Let's not forget that in this same series Lebron had games of 8-25 with 7 turnovers, 10-30 with 8 turnovers and 7-23 in the same series and his team still won..

sit your ass down :oldlol:


GESUS. No lube

There's no logical response for this :lol :lol :lol

[34-24 Footwork]

Because the Lakers were stacked af.
Kobe's been bailed out by dominant from courts his entire career due to him being arguably the worst Finals performer of any top 10 GOAT.
5 rangz doe:roll:


Lebron is 2/6 in the finals. He's definitely in the category of worst finals performers :lol

[34-24 Footwork]

[QUOTE=rmt]His team mates - especially Artest - bailed him out.

"Ron Artest was the most valuable player tonight," Phil Jackson said. "He brought life to our team."
http://www.webcitation.org/5wfrwRtjY

"... the more I tried to push, the more it kept getting away from me.

[Fire Colangelo]

this is how stupid bran stans are

they think that going 7-23 for 15 points is better than 6-24 for 23 points

you can't make this shit up

:roll:

Lebron stans seriously think that having 11 points while your team is up 20 is better than scoring 23 points while hitting game clinching shots/free throws.

Lebron scores 15 points on 31% TS and wins by 20, Kobe scores 23 points on 38% TS and barely wins the game.. who's team needed who more..?

Lebron shits the bed and his team closes out a playoff series with ease,

Kobe shits the bed less, and his team still needs 10 points from Kobe (which is about how many Lebron scored in this entire game while it was still competitive) in the 4th to barely win the game

Let's not forget that in this same series Lebron had games of 8-25 with 7 turnovers, 10-30 with 8 turnovers and 7-23 in the same series and his team still won..

sit your ass down :oldlol:

:roll:

Melting down while not addressing any of my points. You basically repeated your own points... Congrats.

Once, again Kobe took more 12 more FTs to score 8 points, good for him. LeBron obviously had a shitty scoring game so he decided to chip in by playing the facilitator role and put out 11 assists.

Once again, Lebron's team has never won a game with him shooting below 25%. While Kobe has 6 of those games alone.... In the same season :roll:

But hey, we're also comparing game 7 of the NBA finals to a game in the 2nd round.

Good for you for having tons of butt buddies to congratulate you on your "ether" I guess.

No shame in admitting the Lakers were pretty stacked in those years bruh, I'd kill to have my team stacked like that :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

:roll:

Melting down while not addressing any of my points. You basically repeated your own points... Congrats.

Once, again Kobe took more 12 more FTs to score 8 points, good for him. LeBron obviously had a shitty scoring game so he decided to chip in by playing the facilitator role and put out 11 assists.

Once again, Lebron's team has never won a game with him shooting below 25%. While Kobe has 6 of those games alone.... In the same season :roll:

But hey, we're also comparing game 7 of the NBA finals to a game in the 2nd round.

Good for you for having tons of butt buddies to congratulate you on your "ether" I guess.

No shame in admitting the Lakers were pretty stacked in those years bruh, I'd kill to have my team stacked like that :oldlol:


Themarkmadsen is the Shawn Bradley of ISH. He got posterized, and dunked on by legit ISH Superstars.

[34-24 Footwork]

:roll:

Melting down while not addressing any of my points. You basically repeated your own points... Congrats.

Once, again Kobe took more 12 more FTs to score 8 points, good for him. LeBron obviously had a shitty scoring game so he decided to chip in by playing the facilitator role and put out 11 assists.

Once again, Lebron's team has never won a game with him shooting below 25%. While Kobe has 6 of those games alone.... In the same season :roll:

But hey, we're also comparing game 7 of the NBA finals to a game in the 2nd round.

Good for you for having tons of butt buddies to congratulate you on your "ether" I guess.

No shame in admitting the Lakers were pretty stacked in those years bruh, I'd kill to have my team stacked like that :oldlol:


Has it occurred to you that MAYBE Lebron is just easier to figure out over a span of a 7 game series than Kobe...or any other superstar that has a winning record in the finals?

Quit letting your emotions get in the way of rationality.

[34-24 Footwork]

Mark Madsen got people LEGIT ANGRY

[FreezingTsmoove]

Was looking at this thread as a bystander. Felt there was no need to intervene because Mark was going in raw :applause:

[Lebron23]

Here comes the retards who defended this pot smoker.

[Lebron23]

Was looking at this thread as a bystander. Felt there was no need to intervene because Mark was going in raw :applause:


And yet you're still ducking this thread.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12283700#post12283700

[Lebron23]

Kobe is a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible individual finals performer among the top 12 greatest players of all time. Just look at his stats and numbers. He's lucky he played with Prime Shaq, and he won an NBA title while averaging only 15 ppg in the NBA Finals.

[raprap]

This is one of the main reasons why LeBron signed with the Heat. He saw how Kobe played not up to par to his standards and still won because of great teammates.

[rmt]

Duncan fans talking about being valuable? Lol. You know you aren't valuable when you're damn near 7 ft and choke on a 3 foot bunny in the finals and nobody bats an eye :lol

When a 37 year has played 43:10 mins (more minutes than all team mates except a 21 year old Leonard) and misses a bunny at the end of the game, then, yes, he gets a pass.

Compare that to a 31 year old Kobe and his 25%FG.

Duncan 24 pts 12 rebs 2 asst 4 stl 1 blk 44% FG 113 ORtg 97 DRtg
Bryant 23 pts 15 rebs 2 asst 1 stl 0 blk 25% FG 88 ORtg 93 DRtg

[warriorfan]

lebron stans got straight bodied like usual

step your game up you idiots

[rmt]

Note above: I tried to give Kobe his due and bold his DRtg but my change is too short and it won't be accepted.

[IllegalD]

Note above: I tried to give Kobe his due and bold his DRtg but my change is too short and it won't be accepted.

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[Lebron23]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818167/duncanmiss.gif


And nobody gave a damn after he missed that shot.

[Showtime2001]

this is how stupid bran stans are

they think that going 7-23 for 15 points is better than 6-24 for 23 points

you can't make this shit up

:roll:

Lebron stans seriously think that having 11 points while your team is up 20 is better than scoring 23 points while hitting game clinching shots/free throws.

Lebron scores 15 points on 31% TS and wins by 20, Kobe scores 23 points on 38% TS and barely wins the game.. who's team needed who more..?

Lebron shits the bed and his team closes out a playoff series with ease,

Kobe shits the bed less, and his team still needs 10 points from Kobe (which is about how many Lebron scored in this entire game while it was still competitive) in the 4th to barely win the game

Let's not forget that in this same series Lebron had games of 8-25 with 7 turnovers, 10-30 with 8 turnovers and 7-23 in the same series and his team still won..

sit your ass down :oldlol:
http://www.general-anaesthesia.com/images/ether.jpg

[SpaceJam]

When a 37 year has played 43:10 mins (more minutes than all team mates except a 21 year old Leonard) and misses a bunny at the end of the game, then, yes, he gets a pass.


No he shouldn't :biggums:

[stalkerforlife]

this is how stupid bran stans are

they think that going 7-23 for 15 points is better than 6-24 for 23 points

you can't make this shit up

:roll:

Lebron stans seriously think that having 11 points while your team is up 20 is better than scoring 23 points while hitting game clinching shots/free throws.

Lebron scores 15 points on 31% TS and wins by 20, Kobe scores 23 points on 38% TS and barely wins the game.. who's team needed who more..?

Lebron shits the bed and his team closes out a playoff series with ease,

Kobe shits the bed less, and his team still needs 10 points from Kobe (which is about how many Lebron scored in this entire game while it was still competitive) in the 4th to barely win the game

Let's not forget that in this same series Lebron had games of 8-25 with 7 turnovers, 10-30 with 8 turnovers and 7-23 in the same series and his team still won..

sit your ass down :oldlol:

http://www.general-anaesthesia.com/images/ether.jpg

[CP3PO]

And nobody gave a damn after he missed that shot.
Is that why it is being discussed years later? :hammerhead:

[aj1987]

:roll:

Melting down while not addressing any of my points. You basically repeated your own points... Congrats.

Once, again Kobe took more 12 more FTs to score 8 points, good for him. LeBron obviously had a shitty scoring game so he decided to chip in by playing the facilitator role and put out 11 assists.

Once again, Lebron's team has never won a game with him shooting below 25%. While Kobe has 6 of those games alone.... In the same season

But hey, we're also comparing game 7 of the NBA finals to a game in the 2nd round.

Good for you for having tons of butt buddies to congratulate you on your "ether" I guess.

No shame in admitting the Lakers were pretty stacked in those years bruh, I'd kill to have my team stacked like that :oldlol:
:applause: :applause:

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Chokebe turds still making new excuses for that god awful performance. But but but rebounds doe. :roll:

[fiddy]

5>2

:pimp:

stay mad kids, Kobe is whole tier above LeRefs as a bball player.

[stalkerforlife]

5>2

:pimp:

stay mad kids, Kobe is whole tier above LeRefs as a bball player.

http://www.general-anaesthesia.com/images/ether.jpg

[Showtime2001]

:applause: :applause:

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Chokebe turds still making new excuses for that god awful performance. But but but rebounds doe. :roll:
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[SouBeachTalents]

5>2

:pimp:

stay mad kids, Kobe is whole tier above LeRefs as a bball player.

8>5

Havlicek is a whole tier above Kobe as a bball player

[STATUTORY]

Kobe willed his team to victory, you can't see that in the boxscore

[JebronLames]

LeBron > Kobe

Any objective poster knows this. Not debatable. :bowdown:

[aj1987]

Refs willed their team to victory, you can't see that in the boxscore
FTFY.

[Showtime2001]

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:applause:

[Bankaii]

Hey Bankaii. It's sucks that jeff disabled the PM. I remember you challenging that stiff Freezingtsmoove into a basketball showdown videos. The Big mouth is still ducking the challenge.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389968
Dude is a bitch. I wouldn't expect him to post anything because he's never actually shot a ball in his life.


Lebron is 2/6 in the finals. He's definitely in the category of worst finals performers :lol
Horry is 7/7 in the Finals, he's obviously the GOAT finals performer.
Sit your dumbass down.

Kobe has one Finals above average, 2 if you're being generous.
Funny how someone so "clutch" plays like crap at the most crucial moments.

[RRR3]

Dude is a bitch. I wouldn't expect him to post anything because he's never actually shot a ball in his life.


Horry is 7/7 in the Finals, he's obviously the GOAT finals performer.
Sit your dumbass down.

Kobe has one Finals above average, 2 if you're being generous.
Funny how someone so "clutch" plays like crap at the most crucial moments.
34-24 footwork is low key one of the dumbest guys on ISH. dude thinks Wiggins is better than LeBron :lol

[riseagainst]

Lebron took 23 shots to score 15 points. Got outscored by Delly and padded his stats in the 4th. Cavs were up by 15 in the 4th and Lebron only had 11 points. He scored his last 5 point while the team was up by 20 :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kobe took 24 shots to score 23 points. Had as many rebounds as Lebron had points. Led his team in scoring and had 10 points in the 4th as he helped the team crawl back and won the game.

Kobe's game was much better


straight savage....

got them lebron stans and their, I mean his, alts rolling in to reply to one another.

:lol

[34-24 Footwork]

34-24 footwork is low key one of the dumbest guys on ISH. dude thinks Wiggins is better than LeBron :lol

Never said Wiggins is better than Lebron. But from an objective standpoint, Wiggins made the finals mvp look rather average on defense. (even though he just came off injury).

Just an observation. You're clearly upset :lol

[34-24 Footwork]

Dude is a bitch. I wouldn't expect him to post anything because he's never actually shot a ball in his life.


Horry is 7/7 in the Finals, he's obviously the GOAT finals performer.
Sit your dumbass down.

Kobe has one Finals above average, 2 if you're being generous.
Funny how someone so "clutch" plays like crap at the most crucial moments.

Lmao. Dance LITTLE BOY. I'm entertained :applause: :applause:

[Dray n Klay]

LOL maybe because Kobe wasn't even the best player on the team.



Noone brings up when Bosh was horrible in Game 7 for the Heat. None cares about supplementary players like Kobe was on that team.

[rmt]

No he shouldn't :biggums:


Duncan fans talking about being valuable? Lol. You know you aren't valuable when you're damn near 7 ft and choke on a 3 foot bunny in the finals and nobody bats an eye :lol

You guys need to make up your minds - either nobody batted an eye or he shouldn't have been given a pass. Then SpaceJam, please explain why he shouldn't be given a pass given how well he played (24 pts/12 rebs), how many minutes he played (over 43) and how old he was (37).

[Bankaii]

Never said Wiggins is better than Lebron. But from an objective standpoint, Wiggins made the finals mvp look rather average on defense. (even though he just came off injury).

Just an observation. You're clearly upset :lol
You said "Cavs win the Finals if you switch Lebron with Wiggins".
I'm pretty sure that means Wiggins>Lebron.

There are some dumb posters on here, but you legit have a single digit IQ.
I'm sure you struggle to breathe subconsciously.

[aj1987]

:applause:
Dat meltdown doe. :roll:



Going back to topic, Chokebe always needed a bailout. It's a FACT. Some more facts for you Chokebe turds. :cheers:

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[Showtime2001]

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/im_retarded_quantum_leap.gif
Let the meltdown continue :yaohappy:

[Fire Colangelo]

Dat meltdown doe. :roll:



Going back to topic, Chokebe always needed a bailout. It's a FACT. Some more facts for you Chokebe turds. :cheers:



http://s30.postimg.org/vuqmj0ktd/lol.png

The Lakers were 5-0 in the regular season of 2010 when Kobe shot less than 25%.

You seriously can't make this shit up :roll: :roll: :roll: Team was stacked as ****.



Meanwhile Kobe stans resorting to overused meltdown gifs with zero arguments.

[aj1987]

http://s30.postimg.org/vuqmj0ktd/lol.png

The Lakers were 5-0 in the regular season of 2010 when Kobe shot less than 25%.

You seriously can't make this shit up :roll: :roll: Team was stacked as ****.



Meanwhile Kobe stans resorting to overused meltdown gifs with zero arguments.
:roll: :roll:

Agreed. The Chokebe retards like Dumbass2001, retardforlife, etc. keep melting down. Must be hard to be a stan of a choker who's borderline top 15. :roll:

[Showtime2001]

Must suck to be a stan of a 2/6 choker in the finals who's borderline top 30.

By all means continue melting down son.

:lol

[warriorfan]

AJ has been melting down harder than usual

everything ok buddy? need to talk?

pm me

[aj1987]

Must suck to be a stan of a 2/6 choker in the finals who's borderline top 30.

By all means continue melting down son.



AJ has been melting down harder than usual

everything ok buddy? need to talk?

pm me

Alts... :roll:

Anyways....








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[warriorfan]

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:banana:

[fiddy]

http://i66.tinypic.com/ta0nly.jpg
Stop it, i know its normal for you gypos to shit everywhere you, but please, ISH have had enough of your stupidity (and shit)

[aj1987]

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Good for you, autistic gypsy. You finally admit it. :cheers:

[34-24 Footwork]

What does Lebron have in common with Tim Duncan and Kobe?

All three of them are barely talked about anymore. The difference is that Lebron is in the middle of his prime and Kobe and Duncan are retirees.

:lol :lol :lol

[fiddy]

Good for you, autistic gypsy. You finally admit it. :cheers:
DЕSIGNATED SHITTING STREETS. Come on bruh, you got human trash running through your veins and a peanut sized brain. Diсkriding Bran wont compensate your inferiority.

[34-24 Footwork]

You said "Cavs win the Finals if you switch Lebron with Wiggins".
I'm pretty sure that means Wiggins>Lebron.

There are some dumb posters on here, but you legit have a single digit IQ.
I'm sure you struggle to breathe subconsciously.

At this stage of their careers. Wiggins offensive isolations all game would be better than Lebron isolations all game. At least he doesnt travel every time he pics of the ball.

That's an objective stance watching both players. Stay mad though.

[aj1987]

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Good for you, sheep ****er. I hope your mom doesn't mind getting laid for $15 a night, and I sincerely hope that your dad makes more than $10 a night from stealing.

Also, I never knew that there was a country full of prostitutes and thieves. Good for you guys though. Have a question, BTW. Do you whore you mom and sister out or do they have a different pimp? Just curious, gypsy. Take it easy on your cattle.

:cheers: :cheers:

[raprap]

At this stage of their careers. Wiggins offensive isolations all game would be better than Lebron isolations all game. At least he doesnt travel every time he pics of the ball.

That's an objective stance watching both players. Stay mad though.
you're dumb af dude. I don't think you're even trolling anymore. You actually believe this shit you're spewing. :oldlol:

[Bankaii]

At this stage of their careers. Wiggins offensive isolations all game would be better than Lebron isolations all game. At least he doesnt travel every time he pics of the ball.

That's an objective stance watching both players. Stay mad though.
The sad part is I don't think you're even joking anymore, you're actually serious.
You are the least objective poster on here. Your posts are pure fabricated bs.

You're not worth the time anymore man, troll on.

[Lebron23]

The sad part is I don't think you're even joking anymore, you're actually serious.
You are the least objective poster on here. Your posts are pure fabricated bs.

You're not worth the time anymore man, troll on.


The guy is a garbage poster. He Belongs in the Garbage Can.

[34-24 Footwork]

Wiggins is more polished offensively than Lebron at this point.

Lebron travels anytime he's forced to make a professional basketball move.

There's nothing facetious about either one of these things. I understand why that bothers some of you.

But facts are facts.

[Lebron23]

Wiggins is more polished offensively than Lebron at this point. There's nothing facetious about that. I understand why that bothers some of you.


LeBron at the age of 21 yrs.old averaged 31/7/8. You don't know what you are talking about. You Jack @$$. You don't know $hit about basketball.

I'll give you a personal education about NBA Basketball. I am like a walking encyclopedia.

[Smoke117]

Pau Gasol.

[34-24 Footwork]

LeBron at the age of 21 yrs.old averaged 31/7/8. You don't know what you are talking about. You Jack @$$. You don't know $hit about basketball.

I'll give you a personal education about NBA Basketball. I am like a walking encyclopedia.

We're going facts vs. facts now. Good job.

Lebron was definitely the better player. Wiggins is more polished offensively.

Both of these are facts.

Are you still In your feelings?

[IllegalD]

Pau Gasol.


Wade wouldnt even have any rings if it wasn't for LeBron and Shaq. :roll:

[Horatio33]

Duncan didn't play well in Game 7 in '05 either

Watch the second half of that game. He made some big baskets, passed out of 3 double teams for 3 point baskets.

[SouBeachTalents]

Wade wouldnt even have any rings if it wasn't for LeBron and Shaq. :roll:

You could literally say the same thing about Kobe and Shaq/Gasol

[IllegalD]

You could literally say the same thing about Kobe and Shaq/Gasol


So you agree then? Cheers! :cheers:

Wade is an overrated f*ggot confirmed by one of his own Stans. :banana:

[Showtime2001]

http://s30.postimg.org/vuqmj0ktd/lol.png

The Lakers were 5-0 in the regular season of 2010 when Kobe shot less than 25%.

You seriously can't make this shit up Team was stacked as ****.



Meanwhile Kobe stans resorting to overused meltdown gifs with zero arguments.
Alt :oldlol: .... anyways

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/12/article-2689528-1F95B33200000578-905_634x625.jpg
http://images.latintimes.com/sites/latintimes.com/files/styles/pulse_embed_breakpoints_theme_lt_desktop_1x/public/2015/06/17/nba-finals-memes_10.jpg

2/7 incoming.

:cheers: :cheers:

[aj1987]

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http://s30.postimg.org/vuqmj0ktd/lol.png

The Lakers were 5-0 in the regular season of 2010 when Kobe shot less than 25%.

You seriously can't make this shit up Team was stacked as ****.


As I said,

Meanwhile Kobe stans resorting to overused meltdown gifs with zero arguments.

[IllegalD]

http://s30.postimg.org/vuqmj0ktd/lol.png

The Lakers were 5-0 in the regular season of 2010 when Kobe shot less than 25%.

You seriously can't make this shit up Team was stacked as ****.


As I said,

Meanwhile Kobe stans resorting to overused meltdown gifs with zero arguments.


You're melting down, little boy.

Using a 5 game sample as your proof. :roll:

Kobe >>> Wade. Deal with it. And it has nothing to do with injuries or circumstances. Wade just wasn't as good. Deal with it little girl.

:yaohappy: :hammertime:

[aj1987]

You're melting down, little boy.

Using a 5 game sample as your proof. :roll:

Kobe >>> Wade. Deal with it. And it has nothing to do with injuries or circumstances. Wade just wasn't as good. Deal with it little girl.

:yaohappy: :hammertime:
Chokebe turds think facts = melting down.. :facepalm

[The Iron Fist]

Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Ron Artest, Derrick Fisher
6/16, 1/5, 3/8, 7/18, 4/6

[Showtime2001]

http://s9.postimg.org/ftt7cn7q7/EVERI_Ultra_Mega_Meltdown_Artwork.jpg
aj still melting down cant accept facts like

Kobe >>>>>>>> LeChoke

2/6

Continue posting irrelevant stats and continue the meltdown.

:yaohappy:

[aj1987]

aj still melting down cant accept facts like

Kobe >>>>>>>> LeChoke

2/6

Continue posting irrelevant stats and continue the meltdown.

:yaohappy:
Actually, that's not a fact at all. I should know better though. Chokebe turds don't even understand simple english.

[SpaceJam]

No one outside of Garnett and Perkins really shot well that finals series

DEFENSE :bowdown:

[Showtime2001]

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r494/Schmoopy72/Gifs%20from%20video/4626555retard.gif
Meltdown continues!

:lol

[aj1987]

Meltdown continues!

:lol
Thanks for literally proving my point from like 3 posts ago. :cheers:

[Showtime2001]

https://s15.postimg.org/ptsp6hqh7/18kx9t3on9n28jpg.jpg
:cheers: :cheers:

[Mr. Jabbar]

lockdown D and rebounds. no1 shot well, kobe grabbed 15 fkn rebounds as a shooting guard. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[riseagainst]

Kobe played one hell of a game. When he's shooting bad he'll destroy you with his defense, rebound, and hustle play. But in the 4th quarter he scored 10 points, which was huge. Clutch as fck!

[Vragrant]

That game 7 was one of the strangest games I've ever seen. There was so much on the line that the tension in the arena was palpable. I've never seen so many NBA players look so nervous in a game at the same time. Kobe was awful but nobody on else on the court was that much better.

You could clearly see the players thinking before making every move, nothing was instinctual, and nobody wanted to make a mistake. It just so happened that Kobe was the one taking the most shots, and in true Kobe fashion he did not care if he missed. The problem was Kobe was damned nervous himself.

[raprap]

That game 7 was one of the strangest games I've ever seen. There was so much on the line that the tension in the arena was palpable. I've never seen so many NBA players look so nervous in a game at the same time. Kobe was awful but nobody on else on the court was that much better.

You could clearly see the players thinking before making every move, nothing was instinctual, and nobody wanted to make a mistake. It just so happened that Kobe was the one taking the most shots, and in true Kobe fashion he did not care if he missed. The problem was Kobe was damned nervous himself.
Pau, World Peace and Rondo performed better than Kobe on that game.

[PsychoBe]

Looking back, how the hell did the Spurs survive the Pistons in the 05 finals, with Duncan shooting 37% in game 7 (and 29% and 33% in games 3&4) . For an elite PF/C, that is rather dismal.

Looking back, how the hell did the Cavs push the celtics to 7 games, with Lebron shooting 8 for freaking 40 (20%) in games 1 and 2.

It's a crazy concept I know, but supporting casts can actually cover for their star player until said player actually wakes up. :rolleyes:

jesus christ :roll: :roll: :roll: