Jordan's "GOATness" being dismantled little by little...

[IllegalD]

Jordan Stans will no longer be able to claim the 96 Bulls as "The Greatest Team of All Time". They can come in here and pretend like it's not a big deal, but let's be honest, they always cited that team as one of the proofs of Jordan's supposed "unanimous GOATness"

I know most of these 40+ year olds have to be shellshocked right now, because they never thought it could happen, let alone by a team of 3-point shooting midgets.

:cry:

[Spurs m8]

Only stupid people would think this.

Hence OP starting this thread.

Jordan would actually annihilate Steph hey hahah

[IllegalD]

Only stupid people would think this.

Hence OP starting this thread.

Jordan would actually annihilate Steph hey hahah


The meltdown continues.

Take it easy bro, you might break that F5 key. :roll:

[AirBonner]

If they don't win the championship it will be "the greatest season that never was."

[HighFlyer23]

man it really is amazing

that little girl beating that psychotic mofos record

[Cocaine80s]

Yup, I have Jordan at #3 now with Lebron at #1

[Bawkish]

The '96 Bulls have 72-10 record, a title, Coach of the Year, Sixth Man of the year, a regular season/All-Star & Finals MVP, All-NBA/All-Defensive First Teams on their resume

so i find this thread laughable

[IllegalD]

The '96 Bulls have 72-10 record, a title, Coach of the Year, Sixth Man of the year, a regular season/All-Star & Finals MVP, All-NBA/All-Defensive First Teams on their resume

so i find this thread laughable


So basically you're saying that the 96 Bulls were WAY MORE stacked? :eek:

Damn, that makes what Curry is doing even MORE impressive :bowdown:

Learn to read, little girl. This thread is about Jordan, not the 96 Bulls. You basically just buried yourself by admitting that Jordan had more to work with than Curry, yet Curry STILL is about to break the record. :applause:

[Straight_Ballin]

Jordan Stans will no longer be able to claim the 96 Bulls as "The Greatest Team of All Time". They can come in here and pretend like it's not a big deal, but let's be honest, they always cited that team as one of the proofs of Jordan's supposed "unanimous GOATness"

I know most of these 40+ year olds have to be shellshocked right now, because they never thought it could happen, let alone by a team of 3-point shooting midgets.

:cry:

^

:lol

It took THIS LONG for a team to be created to tie a record in an era with no hand checking. That's acutually pretty bad. Almost as bad as lebron colluding and not sniffing 72 wins.

[Bawkish]

So basically you're saying that the 96 Bulls were WAY MORE stacked? :eek:

Damn, that makes what Curry is doing even MORE impressive :bowdown:

Learn to read, little girl. This thread is about Jordan, not the 96 Bulls. You basically just buried yourself by admitting that Jordan had more to work with than Curry, yet Curry STILL is about to break the record. :applause:

:lol

did you miss the part where i stated the regular season, All-Star & Finals MVP?

[ninephive]

The meltdown continues.

Take it easy bro, you might break that F5 key. :roll:
Seriously, you guys have a bigger vocabulary. You went to school and everything.

[enayes]

I don't see this record (assuming they get it) having any impact on Jordan's GOAT status.

If anything, it allows people to claim 15/16 Warriors > 95/96 Bulls.

With or without the title.

So it's a knock against the Bulls overall, but not Jordan in particular.

[Spurs m8]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/1%20Miami%20Heat/michaeljordantrophies-umad-lebron.jpg~original (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/nbacardDOTnet/media/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/1%20Miami%20Heat/michaeljordantrophies-umad-lebron.jpg.html)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://cdn.slamonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/stephen-curry.jpg

[Funktion]

Jordans still goat. His salty former teammates though might want to take it down a notch. Some new young swingin dix in the leeg.

[scandisk_]

Rooting for Steph cause Bean and Bran fell short.

:oldlol:

sad

[ClipperRevival]

It's all good young bucks. Only time can teach knowledge. In due time, after maybe a couple of decades, when you have watched the game for 20-30 years, the truth will reveal itself.

As an MJ fan myself, I have no bitterness towards GSW. They earned it.

[CP3PO]

Only stupid people would think this.

Hence OP starting this thread.

Jordan would actually annihilate Steph hey hahah
Agreed. I am rooting for the record to be broken, but it does nothing to hurt MJ's legacy.

[guy]

Still a long way to go

[ClipperRevival]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/1%20Miami%20Heat/michaeljordantrophies-umad-lebron.jpg~original (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/nbacardDOTnet/media/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/1%20Miami%20Heat/michaeljordantrophies-umad-lebron.jpg.html)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://cdn.slamonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/stephen-curry.jpg

Damn was watching MJ play the most special gift I was ever given as a bball fan. When GOAT atleticism met GOAT desire. :bowdown:

[Cold soul]

Rooting for Steph cause Bean and Bran fell short.

:oldlol:

sad

Curry likely will fall short of both Kobe and Lebron so.

[ClipperRevival]

Curry likely will fall short of both Kobe and Lebron so.

I take Curry's peak over both.

[GrapeApe]

The Bulls winning 72 games is barely a footnote in Jordan's legacy. When discussing Jordan's greatness it's rarely even brought up. It's irrelevant compared to the titles, MVP's, FMVPS, DPOY, all-NBA's, GOAT stats, etc....

[Gileraracer]

Yup, I have Jordan at #3 now with Lebron at #1

That choker LeBaldo is out of top 10

[scandisk_]

I take Curry's peak over both.

I say he joins that company.

Modern Day Greats/G.O.A.T calibre.

[AcquiringSteak]

are Bulls < Warriors or nah?

[iamgine]

'86 Celtics is "The Greatest Team of All Time"

[PP34Deuce]

Golden State had a perfect storm.

a lot of their consist of very high draft picks that had great talent but injury prone or young.

The perfect storm is Barnes is taking advantage of his offense opportunities. Livingston has been healthy and dominating second team PG's. It's unreal how much the stars aligned for them. Their head coach understands how Pops thinks and could potentially out coach him due to having so many options.

The only team that gives them fits throughout a game is OKC.

[Dragonyeuw]

The 96 Bulls weren't the 'greatest team ever' even before this likely record breaking season by the Warriors. For that matter, I don't think they were even the best of their dynasty. I would take 92 or 93 Bulls over 96.

[Ca$H]

Golden State had a perfect storm.

a lot of their consist of very high draft picks that had great talent but injury prone or young.

The perfect storm is Barnes is taking advantage of his offense opportunities. Livingston has been healthy and dominating second team PG's. It's unreal how much the stars aligned for them. Their head coach understands how Pops thinks and could potentially out coach him due to having so many options.

The only team that gives them fits throughout a game is OKC.

Curry- 7th pick
Klay- 11th pick
Barnes- 7th pick
Draygod- 35th pick
Ezeli- 30th pick

Seems like superior drafting to me. None of those guys were even top 5 picks.

[LootOP]

Why would you talk down a legend in order to make your favorite players look good? Curry will look terrific without his fans talking down players from the past.

[sd3035]

All the greats are eventually surpassed

[Dragonyeuw]

Why would you talk down a legend in order to make your favorite players look good? Curry will look terrific without his fans talking down players from the past.

That's generally how it goes around here.Hell, even comparing current players to each other, how many people do you see propping up Lebron without tearing down Kobe or vice versa?

[3ball]

they always cited that team as one of the proofs of Jordan's supposed "unanimous GOATness"


Jordan's 6/6 is why he's GOAT..

And here's 4 Reasons why Curry isn't on Jordan's level:




1) This is Curry's first season as the NBA's best offensive player, compared to Jordan's 10 (in a row).



2) This is Curry's first season with 31+ PER, compared to Jordan's 4 seasons... And Jordan's 4 seasons were superior OVERALL as well:


Per 100 Possessions:

Jordan 88-91 (4 seasons): 42.2 pts.. 8.4 rebs.. 8.2 ast.. 3.9 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.3 blk.. 31.4 PER
Curry.. 2016.. (1 season).: 42.1 pts.. 7.7 rebs.. 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 31.2 PER




3) Jordan won rings while carrying a bigger load, even as an old man - we have stats for 34-35-year old Jordan in 1997 and 1998:


................PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR


.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 34.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)




4) Jordan was the best on BOTH ends


Jordan's defensive impact dwarfs Curry's, especially against teams with great perimeter players, since Jordan can guard guys like Magic, Lebron, or Drexler, while Curry can only defend guys like Shumpert, Delly, etc.

There's a reason Curry didn't win FMVP in last year's Finals - he only did half the job, while Iggy did the other half (defense).

Otoh, MJ performed Iggy's duties on defense by guarding Magic/Drexler, while still having a goat offensive impact - Jordan's 2-way ability is why he has 6 FMVP's, compared to Curry's 0.
.

[ballinhun8]

Remember the '01 Mariners? '07 Pats?




Let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet

[riseagainst]

If Curry wins FMVP this year then yes, he will surpass Jordan as the GOAT.

[Funktion]

Wonder how much money the Warriors have made Jordan this season.

[FultzNationRISE]

... And then Lebron happened :roll:

[TheGoatest]

Anyone who unbiasedly looks at his competition throughout the 90s will come to the conclusion that he is not the GOAT.

[NBAGOAT]

I almost forgot how bad op was with his kobe stanning. Even tried to go after Jordan when he could

[k0kakw0rld]

So basically you're saying that the 96 Bulls were WAY MORE stacked? :eek:

Damn, that makes what Curry is doing even MORE impressive :bowdown:

Learn to read, little girl. This thread is about Jordan, not the 96 Bulls. You basically just buried yourself by admitting that Jordan had more to work with than Curry, yet Curry STILL is about to break the record. :applause:

SHUT THE **** UP, IDIOT.
EVEN YOU, DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU TYPE IN ORDER TO GET SOME LIKES AND ATTENTION.
ANYONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE JORDAN as THE GOAT IS EITHER A HATER, A LEBRON STAN OR AN IMBECILE.

LBJ is my guy however 2007, 2011 can not be ignored. Jordan doesn't have anything like that in his resume.

[8Ball]

Jordan Stans will no longer be able to claim the 96 Bulls as "The Greatest Team of All Time". They can come in here and pretend like it's not a big deal, but let's be honest, they always cited that team as one of the proofs of Jordan's supposed "unanimous GOATness"

I know most of these 40+ year olds have to be shellshocked right now, because they never thought it could happen, let alone by a team of 3-point shooting midgets.

:cry:

This post is straight on.

[Axe]

If Curry wins FMVP this year then yes, he will surpass Jordan as the GOAT.
:roll::roll:

[Axe]

Anyone who unbiasedly looks at his competition throughout the 90s will come to the conclusion that he is not the GOAT.
You don't get rich either by saying he isn't while another guy that may have surpassed him is. :confusedshrug:

[expansionera]

Jordan played on a superteam in the worst era in basketball history, his list of competitors at his position in the Finals includes such greats as Danny Ainge, Jeff Hornacek, Nate McMillan, Byron Russell, and an injured Byron Scott. :lol

His legacy as the GOAT has already been completely dismantled by anyone that watches basketball and not Hanes/Nike commercials

[Axe]

Jordan played on a superteam in the worst era in basketball history, his list of competitors at his position in the Finals includes such greats as Danny Ainge, Jeff Hornacek, Nate McMillan, Byron Russell, and an injured Byron Scott. :lol

His legacy as the GOAT has already been completely dismantled by anyone that watches basketball and not Hanes/Nike commercials
This turd ass dup still on it. :ohwell:

[rmt]

It's been over 23 years since MJ retired, and he's still widely regarded as the GOAT. Let's see who else is so fervently argued as such decades after - people have very short memories - probably not Lebron and definitely not Steph.

[TheCorporation]

It's been over 23 years since MJ retired, and he's still widely regarded as the GOAT. Let's see who else is so fervently argued as such decades after - people have very short memories - probably not Lebron and definitely not Steph.

7,631 is real. It happened and it's over now.