Euro 2016 Draft - Tournament thread

[Jasi]

http://it.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/General/02/31/30/28/2313028_w2.jpg

Following the actual draft (--> http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402722) in this here thread we do the tournament match-ups.

I will post the random seeding (created at 14:30 o'clock CEST), and the actual bracket, here.

This is the random seeding:
https://s22.postimg.org/ybxi328oh/euro2016seed.png

and this is the bracket:
https://s28.postimg.org/yqi1prwd9/euro2016ISHbracket.jpg


All participants will have to provide a tactical posts before Wednesday 24:00 CEST, when the first round will start.
If they want, they can write a new tactical post for each of their following matchups.

To decide a matchup, we will vote.
Every participant + external judges* will give their vote within 12 hours from the start of each round.


*currently KCO and kurple - other candidates will be considered before the start of the first round.

[KCO]

Glad to help, can't wait to see the matchups.

[Jasi]

Seeding and bracket posted in the OP.

[blablabla]

For an Italian you got a extremely weak CB pairing, clearly no match for Lewa, add in Sturridge and it's over.

[Jasi]

For an Italian you got a extremely weak CB pairing, clearly no match for Lewa, add in Sturridge and it's over.

How is Piqu

[blablabla]

**** i missed Piqu

[Jasi]

[QUOTE=blablabla]**** i missed Piqu

[blablabla]

I aint got no love to share during the tournament
I wouldn't mind him at liverpool if we hadn't signed Matip already

[Jasi]

I aint got no love to share during the tournament
I wouldn't mind him at liverpool if we hadn't signed Matip already

I read he was about to join ManU in January, but then the deal didn't go through. Napoli are apparently after him now.

[9erempiree]

:facepalm

What is this rigged?

b1 vs. knickballer in the 1st round? When the judges and I specifically said those were the two strongest team.

[Jasi]

:facepalm

What is this rigged?

b1 vs. knickballer in the 1st round? When the judges and I specifically said those were the two strongest team.

FIFA strikes again my dear.

I kid, I kid... the seeding is random and you can see the precise timestamp in the image I posted. Who would rig a freaking online draft game I wonder...

[blablabla]

I read he was about to join ManU in January, but then the deal didn't go through. Napoli are apparently after him now.
Yeah that's about the level he should be playing at

[knickballer]

we needed to do a seeding based system(Based on a collective vote)!

Whatever. A lion doesn't flee in the face of adversity.

PS, we're gonna need more than 2 judges btw.

[Jasi]

we needed to do a seeding based system(Based on a collective vote)!

Whatever. A lion doesn't flee in the face of adversity.

PS, we're gonna need more than 2 judges btw.

FIFA would have rigged the seeding vote anyways :pimp:
:oldlol:

jokes aside, drafters can vote as well so it's a maximum of 10 votes per matchup.

[9erempiree]

We need transparency!

[blablabla]

So once i post a tactic is it final or can i change it up until Wednesday midnight

[Jasi]

So once i post a tactic is it final or can i change it up until Wednesday midnight

You can change it

[knickballer]

We need transparency!

This. I'm leading a coalition to oust the Italian Oligarchy that is at the head of the ISHUEFA commision. Who's with me? :D

[Jasi]

[I]For the next four years I will be in command of this boat called FISHFA and we will bring it back ashore, we will bring it back to the beach.
I like you, I like my job and I like to be with you. I

[Jasi]

Yeah that's about the level he should be playing at

He's now being mentioned as a Juventus target.

Piqu

[LJJ]

Fine fine, I'll go first.

LJJ team overview

http://s21.postimg.org/kh8cusidj/5fw_CZ2_X.png

Basic Formation

The basic team shape will be a 4-3-3 "pointing to the back" as we would say in Dutch, referring to the shape of midfield. Giving the team great passing freedom with lots of natural passing triangles.

This type of formation needs very multi-dimensional players up top. Wingers need to be able to come centrally, the 9 needs to be a "footballing 9" rather than a poacher who is capable of linking up with the midfield. Benzema will very much play a similar role as he does for his club. Arda and Sterling have played a variety of positions in their career and are some of the poster boys at their position for being "multi-dimensional"

There's the added bonus of Benzema-Ozil-Modric being very comfortable and familiar with each other, I'm expecting link-up-play to be amazing up front.

Midfield is very peak Barca style featuring a true anchor, a box-to-box elite passer and very offensively oriented midfielder with great dribbling and combination play. Busquets is the best in the world at what he does and one of a kind, which is why he was picked first.

On defense, it's Rodriguez role to push forward. The elite covering and defensive abilities of the others is pretty evident.



http://s21.postimg.org/luzzq3hmv/i_YH4_Bu_O.png

Possession scheme

During possession, Rodriguez will usually cover the left wing changing the formation into more of a 3-4-3. Arda and Sterling will be striking wingers constantly looking for positioning near the far post.

With

[blablabla]

[QUOTE=Jasi]He's now being mentioned as a Juventus target.

Piqu

[Nick Young]

1. B1

2. Knickballer
3. LJJ





4. Everyone else.

[Nick Young]

This. I'm leading a coalition to oust the Italian Oligarchy that is at the head of the ISHUEFA commision. Who's with me? :D
History has shown us that you cannot trust an Italian to run anything football related.

[Nick Young]

:facepalm

What is this rigged?

b1 vs. knickballer in the 1st round? When the judges and I specifically said those were the two strongest team.
Just saw this. Jasi has obviously rigged the results by matching the two strongest teams in the first round.

It cannot be more obvious.

Italians and their schemes :facepalm

ISH demands a fair and transparent re-seeding.

[LJJ]

Haven't you looked at my team at all? Kos and Boa :D

ljj what site did you use for that?

outsideoftheboot.com/tactics-creator/

[knickballer]

My General Formation

http://this11.com/play/abK0ikKamH.png



An Example of a possession scheme:
http://this11.com/play/abK0iHhab5.png


Subs:
W/ Mandzukic, Ozaykup, McClean and Gilk as my subs. Manzukic is a big time sub and in a hypothetical match he would probably come in and the formation would switch to a 4-4-2 with both Vardy and Manzukic pressing the shit out of opponents.


Strategy:
-I plan to have Hazard in a free role on the left wing, he'll drift in the middle and act as a "#10". To me this is his best role as he always looks to play the creator role for club and country and likes to drift in naturally.
-Pogba and Kroos will have Danilo to keep them clean defensively so they can focus offensively. Pogba will have a box-box role, he'll be given the freedom to make runs to the left flank and to roam near the box. I like the idea of him overlapping Hazard and going to the left flank when Hazard tucks in the middle. Kroos will essentially camp the attacking third of the pitch with more of an emphasis on the right side of the field, he'll act as an attacking midfielder.
-Vardy, like as his role with Leicester, will be given the freedom offensively to make runs as he chooses.
-Bale will bale on the right flank. He'll be given the CR7 freedom where he'll be encouraged to cut in to shoot or beat defenders off the dribble out wide.
-My fullbacks will provide width but they don't get too far up the field and they won't get too exposed. They are very defensive FB's so I see no problem in them containing the flanks.
-Danilo will act as a destroyer and Ramos offensively will play more up and essentially swapping roles with Danilo.

Defense:
-With Hysaj and Fuchs we are very secured on the flanks as they are both defensive oriented and they won't get caught too far up the field offensively. I'm confident that B1mtf won't beat us there on the flanks. They'll have to beat us in the middle and the Barzagli-Ramo-Danilo trio is a strong one.
-Defensively this unit is sound. The only weak link is Hazard. Vardy is the best defensive forward in the world right now and defensively he's a lion for Leicester.
-You guys probably never heard of Hysaj but hes' a very talented young RB(On Chelsea's, Real Madrid's radar). He's a very solid defender and he'll give Bale to freedom on the right.
-Danilo is the enforcer. Fuchs and Barzagli's leadership & discipline will cover for any bonehead mistakes Ramos makes. I also like the Barzagli-Ramos partnership as I feel Barzagli will keep Ramos clean and do the "dirty work"

[Andrew Wiggins]

http://i65.tinypic.com/1zbdxep.png

Subs:
- Halilovic
- Hamsik
- Sahin
- Wernblom

Tactics and Personnel

- Sommer is an excellent shot stopper and very, very good with the ball at his feet which will be key to playing out of the back in this system. There's a reason why Barcelona wanted to sign him a few years ago and why he's Switzerland's #1 despite all their other good keepers.

- High defensive line with two fast, physical, technical CBs. Alderweireld is the best CB in the Premier League with an ideal blend of technique, physicality, tactical acumen, and a threat on set pieces. He completes more accurate long passes than all but one other CB in the Premier League and you regularly see his raking cross field passes setting up goals for Spurs. Smalling is a physically dominant specimen in the back and is able to handle most target forwards while still competently defending the best wingers in the PL.

- Smolnikov was excellent during Zenit's run to the round of 16 in CL and was always a threat going forward while using his electric pace to make lung bursting recovery runs. Coentrao is still one of the better LBs in world football, and is always a constant threat in the final third with his great crossing and combination play. He's very tactically sound and provides balance to the back 4.

- Apart from Busquets, no other #6 in La Liga compares to Krychowiak. He's your ideal DM -- provides a shield in front of the defense, rarely ever loses possession while maintaining an impressive range of passing, and provides a physical presence in the midfield with his excellent tackling and positional sense. In the possession oriented system this team will play, ball retention and recovery are vital traits - two of the things he excels at.

- Marchisio is arguably Juve's most important player and will be an integral part of this midfield. His work rate and defensive ability will cover the flank and provide an overall balance when Smolnikov gets forward and/or Yarmolenko cuts in. His link up play and eye for picking out a pass are top notch and make him a viable auxiliary winger.

- Iniesta may still be the best possession player in world football. The way he buys time in the midfield and his superhuman playmaking ability in the final third are still world class and will be vital in creating chances for this team.

- Hamsik will provide cover in Iniesta's role while also giving the team an additional threat on set pieces. Sahin does not provide Marchisio's defensive bite but can make plays with the best of them. Wernblom is an old fashioned destroyer while also providing a set piece threat. Halilovic provides another playmaking option on the wings while also being able to function in the center of the pitch with his creativity giving another look in the midfield.

- Yarmolenko is the second top scorer and second highest assist man in the Ukrainian league and has showed he's among the world's most dangerous wingers. He has a unique blend of size and technique while still retaining the speed and one on one ability you see in world class wingers. At his best cutting in from the right onto his stronger left foot, he's shown to be quite two footed and has no problem running to the end line and providing a good cross with his right. His size also makes him a fullback's nightmare in the air, especially on those far post crosses he'll get on the end of.

- Despite not having many games at the senior level, Kingsley Coman is quickly proving to be one of the world's most feared wingers. His electrifying pace, two footedness, ability to consistently provide a great final ball, and adeptness on either flank make him a great option in any system. He's a monster on the counter attack but has shown to be lethal both on the counter and in breaking down compact defenses.

- Thomas M

[alenleomessi]

Coach: Jan Kozak

http://this11.com/play/abK0qokapy.png

Subs: Kadlec, Sigurdsson, Konoplyanka, Dzsudzsak.



I will start with the greatest GK to ever play the game. The Sweeper-Keeper Neuer. I drafted Neuer early so i could concetrate on my offense. A man that has won all and even led a mediocre Schalke team to a semi-final by making countless of superhuman saves. He will put fear into your forwards' eyes.

Zhirkov is my left back who has been playing for Russia for awhile and even though he can bomb forward i will only use him defensively and let him take care of his man.
Coleman has been the best RB in the EPL for the last few seasons. He will definitely bomb forward and Verratti will cover for him.
Wimmer and Lovren are two CBs who might not be the popular picks in the draft but those guys have been playing great lately. Lovren has been a solid CBs since Klopp arived. In Brendan Rodger's ultra-offensive system the attackers looked better than they are (for ex. Sturridge and Sterling) and the defense suffered and often the defenders looked bad. So Lovren is actually a quite good CBs. Wimmer was the backup CB for Tottenham untill Vertonghen got injured and this kid didnt put a foot wrong as Tottenham kept the best defense in the EPL in 2016. Both are tall, strong and technical.

Verratti and Sanches are going to be a nightmare for your midfielders. Probably the two best tacklers in the game. Tireless runners as well. I will let Sanches bomb forward and keep Verratti in the deep midfield area and cover for Coleman when needed.

The front four is what i believe to be the best in the draft. De Bruyne is a top 5 player in the world. The guy is leading a mediocre City team to a semi-final. And he isnt even 100% fit. Then we have Payet who has turned West Ham from a bottom-feeder to a CL candidate. Best free-kick taker in the Europe currently. I will have him switch up with De Bruyne between the right flank and the middle to cause havoc for the opponents. Nolito will be my pure left winger. One of the best players in La Liga this season. I still remember him utterly destroying Alves and Pique as Barca got embarassed by Celta. With him and Payet i got two of the trickiest wingers in the game who arent afraid going past players. And upfront i got arguably the best pure finisher in the world, the english messiah Harry Kane. And this guy is far from only a finisher. His link-up play is exquisite and with those 3 behind him, Coleman on the right and the runners in the midfield who will take back every lost ball i have the best counter-attacking team in the draft.

My subs are very experienced players who are key pieces of their national team. Two of them are captains which is great leadership to have from the bench. Konoplyanka is one of the best subs in Europe and can impact the game in a short period of time.


I dont know much about my coach Jan Kozak but he did beat Spain with the poor Slovakia so he must be pretty good.





In the matchup against Andrew Wiggins i will let him have possession and hit him on the counter. Press him at all times as i believe there is a mistake or two in Smalling. His left side is where i win the game. He has Coentrao, Iniesta and Coman. Coentrao is shit and Iniesta cant defend. Dont think Coman ever tracked back under Pep. With Coleman bombing forward and Payet and KDB switching on the right i like my chances. Iniesta will get his shit pushed in by Verratti and Sanches. They will be all over his ass. And looking by how soft he has been this season, i like my chances. Kane plays with Smalling for England and Toby for Tottenham so im sure he knows the qualities and weaknesses of those two. Smalling this weekend was so concetrated on him that the rest of the team was causing havoc from everywhere. As i said Zhirkov wont be bombing forward so he will be on Yarmolenko at all times. If there is one GK you want to have facing Muller, that would be his pal Neuer.


TL;DR he is loaded in the midfield and weak on the flanks, his whole offense depends on Iniesta and i use my beast mid duo in Sanches/Verratti to make his life miserable and hit him on the counter with KDB/Payet/Nolito/Kane/Coleman time after time. Coentrao or Krychowiak will get a red in this game.

[Jasi]

alen I don't know if it's me but I cannot see your pic

[KobesFinger]

@LJJ I really can't believe you chose Darmian over Buffon as your Italian. Even a scrub RB could've been hidden by the rest of your back 4, Busquets and Buffon

[Jasi]

Jasi team

My team will be mostly lined up with a 4-2-3-1.

https://s21.postimg.org/lpc5qo1zb/jasiteam01.jpg

Fatih "The Emperor" Terim is an old and successful fox, and one that has always paid a lot of attention to the latest trends in football tactics. He's been an innovator back in the days and now he's capable to apply the modern principles to his own.

His most recent formations have revolved around 4-2-3-1, however he had some great stints also using the 4-3-1-2 formation and we have the personnel to do that as well. We will choose one or the other depending on the opponent.

4-3-1-2

https://s30.postimg.org/wgflf1fup/jasi4312.jpg

This is actually the one we will use vs blablabla, mostly because of the obvious advantage of the 4-3-1-2 vs a 4-3-3 that allows you to win the midfield battle by keeping all the opponent's players in check while having an unguarded CDM.

The pivot midfielder will be [B]Andr

[LJJ]

@LJJ I really can't believe you chose Darmian over Buffon as your Italian. Even a scrub RB could've been hidden by the rest of your back 4, Busquets and Buffon

I love Buffon, but his legend is getting a little bit out of hand with some people. Even at his peak he was never really considered the unanimous best GK in the Serie A, it's more that Buffon has been elite for a very long time. Now suddenly, many years past his peak, he's suddenly so good you can forget about other defensive players. Blegh.

The difference between prime Akinfeev and past his prime Buffon is marginal. If this is shocking to you, it just means you are basing your opinion very much on the name and myth of Buffon rather than his current ability. Just look at Jasi, his knowledge of Serie A is better than anyone here and he didn't feel like picking Buffon with a scrub Rb would do his team justice, Buffon is simple not that elite tier anymore.

In my mind no goalkeeper can make up for fielding a scrub. I feel pretty happy with fielding a true top tier player at every position, in my opinion a bunch of the other draftees haven't managed that and have some obvious weak sisters in the starting line up.

[Jasi]

Well I don't really agree on your assessment of Buffon ;D (he was the clear cut best keeper - and not only in Serie A - in his prime, and yes he's still doing really great) but I agree on your strategy and I actually did the same, just because I think that, in terms of actual impact on the game, the gap between ANY TWO keepers of Euro-qualified NTs is way thinner than the possible gap between outfield players. As simple as that.

[LJJ]

Well I don't really agree on your assessment of Buffon ;D (he was the clear cut best keeper - and not only in Serie A - in his prime, and yes he's still doing really great) but I agree on your strategy and I actually did the same, just because I think that, in terms of actual impact on the game, the gap between ANY TWO keepers of Euro-qualified NTs is way thinner than the possible gap between outfield players. As simple as that.

You really think guys like Julio Cesar and Handanovic didn't have seasons where they performed at the same level as Buffon?

Imo they did, they just did for a shorter time.

[Jasi]

You really think guys like Julio Cesar and Handanovic didn't have seasons where they performed at the same level as Buffon?

Imo they did, they just did for a shorter time.
Julio yes, Handanovic? Nah.
Still, I doubt anyone in Italy (except Inter fans) would have picked him over Buffon for an all star team.
But yeah I see what you mean.

[alenleomessi]

i use int. explorer (dont ask) so that might be the problem.. just posted the link of the formation instead.. does that work?

[LJJ]

Imgur doesn't work on ISH for some reason. So there's your culprit.

But why the hell use IE. :biggums:

[alenleomessi]

nvm i think i fixed it.. ccan you see it now?

[alenleomessi]

Imgur doesn't work on ISH for some reason. So there's your culprit.

But why the hell use IE. :biggums:
so you cant use pms and imgur doesnt work :facepalm

cant install chrome it loads forever..i tried bunch of shit but cant get it to work.. the rest of the browsers are shit

[alenleomessi]

cant believe jasi used the word f*cker :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[StephHamann]

Imgur doesn't work on ISH for some reason. So there's your culprit.

But why the hell use IE. :biggums:

I thought they stopped updating IE years ago, :lol

Use Opera Alen, best explorer in my opinion

[Jasi]

Whose tactical posts are missing?

Reminder, I will make the first round start at midnight, everyone will be able to vote then.

[blablabla]

I hope i can make it home by then to post my tactics

[StephHamann]

JO LJJ Benzema will not play for France 2016 :lol

http://screamer.deadspin.com/karim-benzema-wont-play-for-france-this-summer-due-to-s-1770773156

[blablabla]

Jasi is right his diamond formation will put him in an advantage in midfield, the thing is that i have no problem with leaving him that advantage in midfield. Regarding build up play i will look more to my defense to contribute long balls forwards that will bypass the midfield battle and look for my wide players or Lewa to hold on to the ball while my midfielders dart forward to support them. With Koscielny and especially Boateng, who pep has used all year to create quick attacking opportunities when Alonso was tightly marked. Another thing i will be looking to expose is the lack of width the diamond suffers from. It is imo a weird setup Jasi decided to use, neither Kante nor Witsel are comfortable in wide positions, Andre Gomes as the holding midfielder will also cause him problems defensively and Delle Alli while he is providing terrific energy upfront he isn

[Jasi]

Ok so the first round starts.

I'll let knickballer decide if he wants to hold up the voting on his matchup until b1 makes his post.
Same for LJJ with Ragaz.

The other matchups:


(team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12294848&postcount=29) alenleomessi vs Andrew Wiggins (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12294400&postcount=28)



(team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12295012&postcount=32) Jasi vs blablabla (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12295771&postcount=46)


are open for voting.
I think 12 hours is actually too short though. Anyone remembers how long the voting lasted in the previous drafts?

[LJJ]

24 hours should be fine. I'd say we can do these two matchups this Thursday and the other two Friday? The other guys should at least post something like a formation before we start.

[Jasi]

Ok 24 hours then for the first two matchups (deadline tomorrow at half past midnight) and we wait for some post by b1 and Ragaz.

[LJJ]

Where is everybody? :lol Yall need to come and judge, I can't even cheat and steal my opinion.

These matchups are annoyingly close, so that means "good job" to you.

Alen vs Wiggo

Boy, you guys do lay it on thick with the "my player is the most amazing XXX". Sometimes legit when you point out De Bruyne's great play this season or M

[alenleomessi]

cant see blabla's pics.. it says 'IE not supported' :lol .. can anyone repost them or just write the lineup

[alenleomessi]

LJJ if i dont really have the players to play possession football against AW and he would eat me alive on the counter with Muller, Coman and Yarmolenko.. I think its a good set-up.. Playing on the counter is winning titles dude.. CBs like Huth, Morgan, Wimmer, Lucas Hernandez havent set a foot wrong all season. Put them on Barca they would be worse than Chygrinsky

[Jasi]

His lineup is a 4-1-4-1

De Gea;
Pekarik, Boateng, Koscielny , Erkin;
Xhaka;
Vieirinha, Rakitic, Dembele, Insigne;
Lewa

The defensive one has the lines closer together, except Insigne who stays up to support Lewa.
The attacking one turns into an asymmetrical shape, sort of 3-4-1-2, with Vieirinha and Erkin on the flanks, and Dembele supporting Lewa and Insigne.


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I can only vote in the alen vs Andrew match up.
Wiggins takes this for me.
The balance of alien's midfield is suspect despite him trying to pass up Verratti as a holding wonder :biggums:
On the other hand AW 's midfield may be the best in the draft and the way it merges with the offense is effective.
Alen has a great offense for sure but Andrew' s team is solid defensively enough to allow him to control the game.

[alenleomessi]

ill go with jasi just slighly.. game is probably going to end 0-0 or 1-0.. blabla is great defensively but doesnt have much going forward.. surely there were better options than veirinha? and you didnt really need dembele with rakitic already on the team.. jasi has a solid defense and lot more going forward (despite ibra's struggles in big games)

[KCO]

The Jasi vs blablabla matchup matchup I'll go with Jasi. Jasi has a much better attacking side that I believe can score against blablabla's side. Zlatan as the lone striker fits the team well. I also like the midfield of Witsel and Kante covering the back four if needed and still either can come up to help in the attack and Alli is a good young fit at the 10 position. I actually like the defense of blablabla more but I'm not the biggest fan of his attacking form. It's gonna be tough to get Lewandowski going IMO, not big on the players feeding him the ball. Should be a low scoring affair, with Jasi winning 1-0.

[KCO]

Will look at Wiggins vs Aleno later when I get home.

[knickballer]

I think I'll give the edge to Andrew in his matchup. I don't like his attacking third that much and I think Mueller is best when he's playing in a supporting role as opposed to a lone striker. Nonetheless, he has a great midfield trio and Alen's backline is a bit iffy.

I'll also pick Jasi in his matchup.

For the next round we shouldn't post a wall of text for our team. I realized now how difficult to assess a team when there's a block of text on players talent :oldlol:

[Andrew Wiggins]

blablabla vs. Jasi

Jasi - while I like several of player selections, I can’t say I’m a big fan of the tactics given the personnel. Andre Gomes is a massive talent but putting him at the base of the diamond really creates a big gap in the midfield especially with Witsel having to cover the flank and Kante being more of a box to box guy. The forward line is excellent with Perisic being a great crosser of the ball providing service to Ibra and Reus, when in form, being one of the world’s best wide forwards.

I love blablabla’s CB pairing of Koscielny and Boateng but the fullbacks are both very average from the limited times I’ve seen them play. The midfield has great playmakers but none of them is a true ball winner and I think they’ll get overrun but the workhorses in Jasi’s midfield. Erkin, from what I’ve seen is a fullback who likes to get forward and he won’t get much support from Insigne which leave him liable to a lot of 2 on 1 situations. I think Vierinha is a very bland choice and leaves the right flank very average.

Both teams have some very good players but I think there’s also some obvious liabilities. Jasi takes this one for me. Despite blablabla having some defensive gems, Ibra and Reus can conjure magic out of nowhere. I don’t see any of the same offensive game changers on blablabla’s team.

[Jasi]

b1imtf vs knickballer (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12294303&postcount=27)



RagaZ vs LJJ (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12293667&postcount=21)

[Jasi]

we have two very balanced matchups here


b1 vs knicballer: b1 started his draft very well of course, but I am not sure about some of his later choices. On the talent and offensive prowess of CR7 and Griezmann alone with Koke supporting them, b1's team is one of the tournament's favourites, but the rest of the team is underwhelming. Hummels is fine but Chiellini is an overrated CB for a back 4. The keeper is not even his NT's starter. Piszczek never was the same player after being injured and Erkin is below the draft's average for the position.
Going with Nainggolan as pretty much the only tackler from the midfield onwards makes the whole lineup look a bit fragile, especially if you have Shaqiri and Arnautovic (or Griezmann, still not sure about the coach's choice) as your wide midfielders in the 442.

knicks' team on the other hand is an overall solid union even though I think he could have found better solutions than Danilo Pereira at CDM, especially considering how important that role is in his lineup.
With Kroos, Pogba, Hazard, Bale and Vardy the overall offensive phase is on par with his opponent's, while both the midfield and the defense are better.

So knickballer takes this for me.




The Ragaz v LJJ matchup is nice too.
Ragaz' temporary formation isn't anything to write home about but his later picks (Martial and Gundogan) make it more intriguing.
I especially like his Thiago-Dier-Gundogan/Kovavic midfield and his GK+defense isn't shabby either, with certainly the best FB pair in the draft.
The offense is his weakest deparment but the Lukaku will be able to exploit the balls arriving from the forward runs of FBs fed by the creative midfielders.

LJJ's team is dangerous all over the pitch. Lots of creative playmaking from the midfield. Forwards will be dangerous on the counter against a not-so quick CB duo of Bonucci and Williams (even though one FB at a time will be able to help and they're both among the quickest).
CB pair won't leave many chances. FBs are solid.
Huge, huge burden on Busi's shoulders though. Won't expect Modric and Ozil to help him out significantly defensively. But he's mentioned that the whole team will sit back so the sheer density behind should be enough to make life tough for Ragaz' playmakers.

Very balanced matchup, I'll give LJJ the edge mostly because his team has a clear strategy and direction whereas Ragaz' is unknown.

[LJJ]

B1 vs Knickballer

I really feel like after the first few rounds some of the players B1 wanted were just snatched up before him. Some of the midfielders picked late in the draft like Ramsey or Sahin would have made the squad work. Or even slightly underpowered undrafted guys like Brozovic or Darida. Now there is just too much offense and too many guys who don't mesh and don't work for each other.

Knickballer is just solid. Good synergy and no obvious weaknesses. Tho I would actually just go ahead and use Mandzukic over Vardy. Still it's not that difficult to go with Knickballer here, I just feel B1 missed some essential pickups and his squad doesn't fit any formation.

[alenleomessi]

im going with knickballer and ljj by default as b1 and ragaz didnt care enough to type few sentences..
ragaz had a good strategy to keep the big nations for the last rounds which allowed him to take martial and gundogan but some of his earlier picks are questionable.. lukaku shouldnt have went that early..

knickballer has a really solid team.. and dont listen to LJJ he is trying to turn next round in his favor :oldlol: .. Vardy shits on Manduzkic in literally every aspect

[KCO]

The two best teams pitted in so early with with B1 and Knickballer. I feel this game can go either way and if we are going by form this year, Hazard has been ish, no offense Knickballer. I'm going with B1imtf, though I do like knickballer's team a bit more. Big fan of Pogba and then add in Hazard and Bale at the wings and Vardy at striker, that's a dangerous attacking form. Both teams have good defenses and I'll say B1 has the better defensive unit. Both teams have great attacking talent as well with Ronaldo, Shaqiri and Griezmann leading the B1 attacking form. I just feel in the end it can go either way but will go with B1 for now.

LJJ vs RagaZ, I'm going with LJJ. LJJ team is better from top to bottom and the midfield of Modric, Busquets and Ozil will be a handful to contain all of them are great passers and creative. Not the biggest fan of Lukaku either, I think he is overrated and with the defense of Pepe and Kompany, I'm pretty sure they can use their aggressive styles to slow down Lukaku.

[StephHamann]

Ragaz & B1

[knickballer]

How can you vote for a guy who hasn't posted his lineup or tactics

https://m.popkey.co/4340ce/KMzYj.gif

[Nick Young]

we have two very balanced matchups here


b1 vs knicballer: b1 started his draft very well of course, but I am not sure about some of his later choices. On the talent and offensive prowess of CR7 and Griezmann alone with Koke supporting them, b1's team is one of the tournament's favourites, but the rest of the team is underwhelming. Hummels is fine but Chiellini is an overrated CB for a back 4. The keeper is not even his NT's starter. Piszczek never was the same player after being injured and Erkin is below the draft's average for the position.
Going with Nainggolan as pretty much the only tackler from the midfield onwards makes the whole lineup look a bit fragile, especially if you have Shaqiri and Arnautovic (or Griezmann, still not sure about the coach's choice) as your wide midfielders in the 442.

knicks' team on the other hand is an overall solid union even though I think he could have found better solutions than Danilo Pereira at CDM, especially considering how important that role is in his lineup.
With Kroos, Pogba, Hazard, Bale and Vardy the overall offensive phase is on par with his opponent's, while both the midfield and the defense are better.

So knickballer takes this for me.



This guido is shamelessly trying to sabotage B1. Does their corruption know no bounds?


WE DEMAND A RECOUNT. UEFISH IS LEAD BY CORRUPTION:facepalm


First rigging the matchups, now rigging the results. It's like you Italians just can't help yourselves.

In your culture it might be acceptable but in the rest of the world, corruption is not ok.:no:

[blablabla]

im going with knickballer and ljj by default as b1 and ragaz didnt care enough to type few sentences..

this

[Andrew Wiggins]

ljj and knickballer. if you're not going to take a few minutes to explain your tactics, you shouldn't advance.

[Jasi]

Knickballer wins 5-0
LJJ wins 4-0

Steph if you want to enroll as a judge I am ok but let's see if any of the players disagree.

In the meantime everyone has 24 hrs before the start of the semifinals (Wiggins - knickballer, Jasi - LJJ) to post their new writeups (if they want).
See you all here tomorrow at 18.00 CEST.

[Jasi]

Jasi team vs LJJ

I will write nothing more about the individual players, only very briefly about the approach to this matchup.

We'll go with our 4-2-3-1.

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The plan is to control the game in the midfield, dominating the ball but not too high, waiting for their defensive line to come out (also thanks to Ibra drawing CBs out) and then quickly attacking their third with forward runs from the wingers (Reus and Perisic master this art as Klopp's pupils) towards the centre and also from FBs very wide (especially Florenzi) - Alli, Witsel and Ibra are the right guys to trigger their runs.

We won't have a hard time controlling the game in the midfiel considering that Busquets is their only player with credible enforcing abilities.

[Jasi]

Since no one else has written anything, I'll give some more hours over the original deadline.
I will post the matchups to open the voting at 23:00 CEST.

[b1imtf]

**** me, I forgot about this. Been hella busy. Sorry guys.

[Jasi]

SEMIFINALS
VOTING START NOW
UNTIL 23:00 CEST TOMORROW


(team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12294400&postcount=28) Andrew Wiggins vs knickballer (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12307756&postcount=78)



(team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12306114&postcount=71) Jasi vs LJJ (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12307198&postcount=77)

[Nick Young]

SEMIFINALS
VOTING START NOW
UNTIL 23:00 CEST TOMORROW


Andrew Wiggins (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12294400&postcount=28) vs knickballer (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12294303&postcount=27)



(team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12306114&postcount=71) Jasi vs LJJ (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12293667&postcount=21)
You blatantly rigged this. You are scum just like your boy Berlusconi.

[knickballer]

I'll post my tactics either today or tomorrow night. Just have some things to attend to at the moment. I know it's a shitty excuse cuz I'm posting now but it takes some time to post my tactics if you know what i mean

[LJJ]

LJJ vs Jasi

My tactics are catch-all, they don't change depending on the opponent because it's already balanced.

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To start, I have three words for you guys:

Florenzi
Dragovic
Davies

That's 3/4th of my opposition's defense. Spurs backup Ben Davies, "2012 best Swiss league defender" Dragovic and right winger deputizing at right back Florenzi. Oh and the defense is explicitly playing very wide. More like wide open.

Controlling midfield is Busquets-Modric-Ozil's bread and butter, and they have done it consistently at the highest level for years. I think the opponent has players who can do "okay" job at disrupting that. But who absolutely do not have the skillset to dominate and control the ball themselves. My team will put huge pressure down the flanks which will translate into big trouble for the lazy wingers and defensively weak fullbacks on my opponents team.





And as a p.s.
Reus is a great player but he's a <70 minutes a game player. That's not such a big deal when you are Dortmund and you are just moving Kagawa and Auba around a little. But when you have no way to replace Reus other than bringing on bit-part guys like Embolo or Dzagoev that means you are playing the last(and often most important) quarter of the game severely gimped.

[knickballer]

Formation and general strategy
http://this11.com/play/abK16uFakc.png

I like the two forward system better. Yes, Pogba and Kroos aren't true defensive midfielders but Vardy and Mandzukic are possiblu two of the best forwards when it comes to tracking back and defending. If you look at Leicesters defensive success this year it's no surprise that Vardy is someone who stands out with his willingness to track all the way back and act as another defender. The forwards will be asked to help out defensively in the
midfield and they are both very physical and aggressive/physical forwards.

Defensively I'd like this team to press our opponent when they have the ball in the back third. We won't press when the opponent has the ball in our half of the field, we'll sit back and Vardy & Manzkuic will drop back to help defensively.

Offense
-Offensively I like this formation as it gives more space for Bale and Hazard to be creative. Hazard will be aligned as a left winger but he'll often go in the middle and act as a #10 in the middle of the park, he'll be given freedom to create.
-This gives flexibility to Pogba who can work around Hazard and find pockets of space, for example he'll occupy the left field area if Hazard starts to operate in the middle. In general, Pogba will be a box-box midfielder, him and Hazard should have nice partnership.
-Vardy will be making runs and he'll have a preference to drift out to left opening up pockets up space. Mandzukic will be more central and will be asked to play as a target man(Physical play, hold up, poach).
-Bale will be given a role similar to CR7. Cut inside from a wide area and threaten the keeper with shots from his left foot. He can also take on defenders off the dribble. He'll be less of a provider as Hazard and more of a scorer. I want him to score goals.
-Kroos will be more of a central player and occupy the middle third.
-In times of possesion Ramos will come up a bit and play a bit as a deep lying play maker
-The other defenders Barg and Ramos will be conservative. Fuchs will be given some freedom on the left flank to help with possession.

Example of how we may look with possession
http://this11.com/play/abK16RWabJ.png

Again I feel offensively this lineup is very fluid and interchangeable.

Subs:
Once we score Danilo will be inserted to give this squad some muscle in the midfield and to be a defensive tactical sub.

[Jasi]

I've updated the links to LJJ's and knicks' tactics

[alenleomessi]

knickballer as he has a way better overall team and with bale and hazard on the wings (vardy as well) he should destroy AW's mediocre fullbacks
AW's team looks good on paper but like i said iniesta is not half the player he used to be and he cant controll a game anymore.. surelly not against the likes of pogba and kroos.. cant believe i lost to AW honestly but whatever


jasi in the 2nd matchup..
LJJ is right davies is the weak link and reus cant play a whole game right now( and probably wont help out davies defensively that much).. but dude you have arda and darmian on the right.. the shittiest offensive combo you could have possibly think off.. darmian is really really bad.. arda wasnt doing much offensively even in his atleti days.. so you are left depending on sterling.. good luck with that.. and this is a big game and we know how ozil does in them.. you are going to outpass him but he is going to outrun and outmuscle you in the middle which should narrowly win him the game

[Andrew Wiggins]

knickballer has some very good individual players but i feel the team lacks balance especially in the midfield and will struggle establish possession. Kroos isn’t a true ball winner and neither is Pogba which will leave massive gaps in midfield where my team is the strongest. Vardy has played Spurs three times this season with Alderweireld in the lineup and has failed to score on each occasion. Mandzukic is having one of his worst goalscoring season in years. Fuchs struggles with pace and I think Coman will and Yarmolenko will have their way with him and Hysaj.


ljj vs. jasi

have to go with ljj in this one. I think his team is very balanced and the personnel mostly fit the tactics which is where I feel jasi’s team is lacking a bit. the midfield with busquets, modric, and ozil is phenomenal and I think arda’s skill in possession is an additional and benzema’s top notch link up play for a striker make his team very difficult for jai’s defense to deal with.

[KCO]

I'm going with Knickballer, the attacking talent is just too much for the defense of AW. Bale and Hazard on the wings and then Vardy and Mandzukic at the striking positions , great combo. Plus Pogba and Kroos in the midfield will be creative enough to create other chances. I feel they will keep possession much in this matchup and bringing Danilo for defense will help any questions you have in the defense. I like AW team in the last matchup but here, his team looks overpowered against knickballer's squad.

LJJ vs Jasi is a tough matchup as both have good teams. Ibra and Reus in the attack for Jasi are dangerous and the midfield he has with Kante and Witse make them versatile however I'm leaning towards LJJ. He has one of the best midfields in this tourney with Modric, Ozil and Busquets. Plus I believe his attacking front is just as good as Jasi. Benzema, Turan and Sterling are a pretty solid bunch and with a midfield like LJJ's, I can see them creating much better scoring chances compared to Jasi. On top of that I like the backline that LJJ has compared to Jasi.

[Jasi]

Voting over.

AW - knickballer 0-2
Jasi - LJJ 1-2

The final is knickballer - LJJ.
You guys have 24 hours to provide a writeup for the match.
Voting will start tomorrow at 23:00.

[9erempiree]

The final is knickballer - LJJ.
You guys have 24 hours to provide a writeup for the match.
Voting will start tomorrow at 23:00.

No surprise here and these two were my top teams to go all the way.

b1 had a good team because of CR but was only eliminated because he didn't do a write up.:facepalm Do your write up.

[Jasi]

Since no one posted specific tactics, I will link your general team overviews.



ISH EURO 2016 DRAFT TOURNAMENT FINAL

(team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12294303&postcount=27) knickballer vs LJJ (team overview) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12293667&postcount=21)


VOTING IS OPEN UNTIL TOMORROW 23:30 CEST

[Booz Vivic]

I'm joining

When should I draft?

[alenleomessi]

im going with knickballer.. just a better overall team..better at 7-8 positions
ramos and barzagli will handle benzema.. rest of the team cant take over a game.. knickballer has 4 proven game changers

[9erempiree]

Great that settles it

On to copa america draft while everyone is still here's.

Should be better players.

[KCO]

Both teams have excellent midfielders who can create chances and both defenses are very good. I actually like LJJ's defense more than Knick and his midfield just slightly over Knicks as well. However, the attacking front of Knickballer is more dangerous than LJJ. Add to the fact that both have good midfielders I see Knicks team making more of their chances when given. Knickballer gets the win for me in a close match.

[Jasi]

Knickballer gets my vote too.
Overall better quality in all departments, virtually no weakness, except we could expect a no show by Hazard given the season.
On the other hand I am not sure of how effective this season's Turan and Sterling would be on LJJ's wings.

[blablabla]

LJJ gets my vote his team will dominate possesion and i believe his defense is good enough to deal with the counter attacking and aerial threats knickballers team has

[Jasi]

Knickballer 3-1 LJJ

Congratulations to knickballer
Winner of the EURO2016 ISH DRAFT TOURNAMENT

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Reminder: we will re-do the tournament, with the same squads (barring injuries e.g. Marchisio) after the actual EC has ended, based on the Euro 2016 performances.

[alenleomessi]

Congrats Knickballer you achieved the greatest honor a human can achieve.. You shall acquire as many albanian wives for yourself as you want :cheers: