Trump erupts as Cruz sweeps Colorado without votes

[UK2K]

The GOP :oldlol:

I'd have more respect for them if they just came out and said 'we are going to do everything we can to stop Trump' as opposed to pretending like they're are trying to elect a candidate in a fair election.

[QUOTE]Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump erupted on Twitter Sunday night, [B]after a weekend which saw Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas sweep all of Colorado

[9erempiree]

It's not about left versus right. Not about policy versus policy.

It's about American citizens versus the establishment from both parties. Everything that has been reported in the news is true of the GOP establishments and people are blind to it.

If they can do this to Trump then they can do it to anyone and its just the beginning.

Notice there are only Hillary and Bernie for the Democrats? The establishment promised her the presidency in 2008 if she dropped out to Obama. Guess what? It's happening. Why isn't a candidate like Biden running?

I even had a dumb lefty on here that tried to tell me that our government is squeaky clean. :facepalm

[DonDadda59]

Like I said in the politics thread, if the Donald is the deal maker he claims he is (he literally wrote the book on it :lol )... Now would be the time to prove it.

As a contested convention looks more and more likely, Cruz has proven to have far better organization and a much better ground game. That's why he was able to sweep the delegates in Colorado. Drumpf's team has admitted that they put in little to no effort in the State so it's very odd he would be angered or surprised by the result.

Maybe Manafort can right the ship otherwise the Donald is all but done, regardless of how many states he wins in the next few weeks/months.

[fiddy]

Like I said in the politics thread, if the Donald is the deal maker he claims he is (he literally wrote the book on it :lol )... Now would be the time to prove it.

As a contested convention looks more and more likely, Cruz has proven to have far better organization and a much better ground game. That's why he was able to sweep the delegates in Colorado. Drumpf's team has admitted that they put in little to no effort in the State so it's very odd he would be angered or surprised by the result.

Maybe Manafort can right the ship otherwise the Donald is all but done, regardless of how many states he wins in the next few weeks/months.
Organized media attacks, have absolutely nothing do with Trump's downfall.

[9erempiree]

Like I said in the politics thread, if the Donald is the deal maker he claims he is (he literally wrote the book on it :lol )... Now would be the time to prove it.

As a contested convention looks more and more likely, Cruz has proven to have far better organization and a much better ground game. That's why he was able to sweep the delegates in Colorado. Drumpf's team has admitted that they put in little to no effort in the State so it's very odd he would be angered or surprised by the result.

Maybe Manafort can right the ship otherwise the Donald is all but done, regardless of how many states he wins in the next few weeks/months.

What a time what a time....you are indirectly saying a person's vote does not count. Are we in a free country?

Your boy tried to tell me our government is squeaky clean.

12 Years A Slave? I got a movie for you to be in.....Forever A Slave.

[Jameerthefear]

it was trump's own f*ck up that didn't get him his delegates.

[Im Still Ballin]

I'm going to have to see some ID there sir

What is your business on InsideHoops

[UK2K]

it was trump's own f*ck up that didn't get him his delegates.

Yeah... about that.


Trump’s complaints came as the Colorado GOP showed an apparent bias by tweeting, “We did it. #NeverTrump.” The party later claimed it’s account had been hacked.

Pretty sure what happened is obvious to MOST everyone.

[Jameerthefear]

Yeah... about that.



Pretty sure what happened is obvious to MOST everyone.

On Saturday, Trump backers passed out flyers at the convention site with official campaign slate of 13 delegates and 13 alternates accompanied by their three-digit number position on the 600-plus person ballot. Seven of the names, however, directed people to the wrong number and one delegate's name was misspelled. Other candidates did not have errors on their slates.
In one case, an erroneous number corresponded with a Cruz supporter. A second flyer handed out by the Trump campaign contained four mismatched names and numbers.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/cruz-sweeps-colorado-trump-campaign-issues-error-filled-ballots-n553586

[UK2K]

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/cruz-sweeps-colorado-trump-campaign-issues-error-filled-ballots-n553586

What does that have to do with the CO GOP tweeting out #NeverTrump?

If it was all his fault, what would you have done to win the nomination in a state that, clearly, was never going to vote for you no matter what?

This should be good.

[Jameerthefear]

What does that have to do with the CO GOP tweeting out #NeverTrump?

If it was all his fault, what would you have done to win the nomination in a state that, clearly, was never going to vote for you no matter what?

This should be good.
Keep wearing that tin foil hat then buddy. Fine by me.

[dude77]

https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/718925325762048000

https://twitter.com/WDFx2EU/status/719020674858135552

https://twitter.com/HardcoreRep/status/718997166258274308

wtf am I watching ? lol .. they picked the delegates without the people voting in colorado and I think it's going on in other states as well .. lot of shenanigans going on .. trickery is going on the dem side as well .. they've just told us our votes are worthless

[fiddy]

Keep wearing that tin foil hat then buddy. Fine by me.
Humanoid sheep voluntary opting for denial. No wonder U.S. is so fuсked up

[DonDadda59]

Organized media attacks, have absolutely nothing do with Trump's downfall.

What in the holy hell are you talking about, son? :biggums:

You people obviously don't have the slightest clue how the nomination process works. That crazy Cuban from Canada does though.

[INDENT]Inside Ted Cruz's Push to Grab All of Colorado's Delegates

This moment has been months in the making.

Ted Cruz backers have filled all 12 of the delegate slots at stake today in Colorado, swiftly navigating the complex process to consolidate support around his candidacy. His supporters now fill all 21 of the state

[UK2K]

Keep wearing that tin foil hat then buddy. Fine by me.

So.... No response. Cool.

[Jameerthefear]

@Dondadda yep.
always makes me laugh when a european who knows 0 about how the nomination process works tries to weigh in.

[dude77]

1920s gangster Paul Manafort

lol he definitely has that mafioso vibe .. you can tell he's been involved in some shit .. probably killed a few people

[UK2K]

At an open/contested convention, it will be delegates who decide who will be the nominee. Cruz was smart enough to know he had virtually no chance to win during the primaries, so he got organized and turned up his ground game. Meanwhile the Donald was arrogant and assumed his Historic negatives would be overlooked and he'd get enough votes to secure the nom before Cleveland.


Those two events are not related in the slightest... Let me break down what you typed:

Delegates will get to decide.
Cruz organized the delegates.

That's more or less your analysis, because the third sentence isn't even related to the delegates in CO all going for Cruz no matter what.

[DonDadda59]

Those two events are not related in the slightest... Let me break down what you typed:

Delegates will get to decide.
Cruz organized the delegates.

That's more or less your analysis, because the third sentence isn't even related to the delegates in CO all going for Cruz no matter what.

Again, you don't have even the slightest clue what you are talking about. :oldlol:

Why not educate yourself on the process first, then speak on it. It'd be a lot less embarrassing that way.


lol he definitely has that mafioso vibe .. you can tell he's been involved in some shit .. probably killed a few people

The man does love himself a good pin striped suit.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160408073048-paul-manafort-trump-convention-manager-newday-00000000-large-169.jpg

http://2nluwg3gxd7r49di871jdzl5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Screen-Shot-2016-04-10-at-7.00.18-PM-660x330.jpg

He would not look out of place in an Al Capone biopic.

[CP3PO]

I even had a dumb lefty on here that tried to tell me that our government is squeaky clean. :facepalm
Who? I didn't believe anybody from any side believes that. Obviously an isolated moron.

[UK2K]

Again, you don't have even the slightest clue what you are talking about. :oldlol:

Why not educate yourself on the process first, then speak on it. It'd be a lot less embarrassing that way.


Again, you haven't pointed out anything that I said that wasn't factual. Your line is getting old.

If you don't have a valid argument to defend the procedure, then just say so. I mean, really, you can just say it, and you don't have to feel bad about it because nobody other than Cruz and the CO GOP can point out why this was a good thing.

[rufuspaul]

The GOP hanging their hopes on Cruz is gonna be a disaster. Hillary will clean the floor with him.

[DonDadda59]

Again, you haven't pointed out anything that I said that wasn't factual. Your line is getting old.

If you don't have a valid argument to defend the procedure, then just say so. I mean, really, you can just say it, and you don't have to feel bad about it because nobody other than Cruz and the CO GOP can point out why this was a good thing.

You have no idea what the procedure is you fool. :oldlol:

Cruz does know and that's why the Donald was caught with his pants down and is now scrambling to play catch up.

Do some research, then talk about something you clearly don't understand. Simple as that. Saves you a lot of embarrassment.


The GOP hanging their hopes on Cruz is gonna be a disaster. Hillary will clean the floor with him.

They just need him to block Trump. Everyone in the GOP hates Cruz as much as they do Trump, some more probably. But at least they know he's a bonafide conservative.

I think many are hoping that once Cruz serves his usefulness in denying Trump the nom, they'll slip someone like Romney or Ryan into the slot.

Honestly it looks to me like they've conceded the Oval Office and are just now trying to build a firewall in the Senate. They view the Donald as not only a guaranteed blow out loss in the GE, but also a disaster down ticket. He might cost them the Senate, the House, Governors (as well as the Supreme Court).

For the GOP, it's just about crisis management and minimizing losses.

[Kblaze8855]

People only care about the popular vote mattering when their guy doesnt benefit. Gore gets more votes than Bush....loses....republicans dont give a shit. Trump likely gets the most votes....loses...now its an outrage. And its the same on the other side. Bernie "wins" a state but doesnt get the delegates he needs...its an outrage. But nobody would care if he won the general with the electoral college and not the popular vote.

We only care that our guy gets the W. Not how....not if its fair...not if its "real" democracy. So lets just be real about it. These guys join a system they know can be rigged for or against them. Trump went in knowing that the rules allow them to "steal" it if he doesnt hit the number. He knew it...and ran as a republican for their built in base.

Its why he and Bernie agreed to these somewhat absurd rules. Its a double edged sword. You get to be red or blue....with tens of millions of Americans already on your team for no reason but that....or you go it as a third party...lose that advantage...and best case....get enough votes to cost the side you are closer to the general.

Bernie runs a 3rd party...he WILL take enough votes to make the republican win the general. Trump runs third...he WILL create a total blowout in favor of the democrats. But neither can win.

Now if they all run....Clinton and Cruz up top...with Trump and Bernie each running on their own?

Maybe level the field enough for it to be a tossup between Clinton and Cruz....but in the end...its the red vs the blue. Too many people vote straight ____ and thats the world we have.

You play by their rules or you lose....or you lose and take the side you identify with the most down with you.

They all knew it going in. Cant call foul now. They were 100% aware of how it could play out and chose to play by the establishments rules...because you dont win without them.

The popular vote doesnt matter....and they have known it all their political lives. They chose to play a rigged game. Went in with full knowledge. But that rigged game is the only legit path to the white house. There are 3 options for someone like Trump or Bernie. Win the uphill battle.....lose with a smile and let someone else step up....or lose and bitch about the rigs...go third party...and maybe take all of congress down in flames with with you.

Those are the options.

It sucks for them...but it is what it is. Bitching about the game being rigged when you signed paperwork to play a rigged game? Eh.

[Jameerthefear]

You have no idea what the procedure is you fool. :oldlol:

Cruz does know and that's why the Donald was caught with his pants down and is now scrambling to play catch up.

Do some research, then talk about something you clearly don't understand. Simple as that. Saves you a lot of embarrassment.



They just need him to block Trump. Everyone in the GOP hates Cruz as much as they do Trump, some more probably. But at least they know he's a bonafide conservative.

I think many are hoping that once Cruz serves his usefulness in denying Trump the nom, they'll slip someone like Romney or Ryan into the slot.

Honestly it looks to me like they've conceded the Oval Office and are just now trying to build a firewall in the Senate. They view the Donald as not only a guaranteed blow out loss in the GE, but also a disaster down ticket. He might cost them the Senate, the House, Governors (as well as the Supreme Court).

For the GOP, it's just about crisis management and minimizing losses.
Putting in Ryan would be really dumb. They'd lose regardless and he wouldn't have a "clean" slate for 2020. Really, like you said, they'll lose with anyone they put up there so I think they'll just go with Cruz. One thing to remember though is that it's not necessarily illegal to bribe delegates..
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/04/politics/contested-convention-bribing-delegates/
It all really depends if Trump is short by a lot when he gets to the convention (like around 50-100) or not too many.

[FillJackson]

What a time what a time....you are indirectly saying a person's vote does not count. Are we in a free country?

Listen just because you were too uninformed before 2016 to understand how a PARTY picks their candidates, does not mean we are not in a free country.

The overall Republican Party's process that delegates pick the nominee has been in place for roughly a hundred years. Colorado made their change last year, they made the change because of things like this.


Colorado saw in 2012 when Ron Paul supporters managed to win a significant portion of the delegate slots, even though Paul finished far behind other candidates in the Colorado caucuses.

Donald Trump has benefitted from how the Republicans have their rules set up. His percentage of delegates is higher than his percentage of votes. If delegates were awarded proportionally like the Democrats do it, he would have no hope of getting to 1237


Also guess what we don't have direct elections. Your vote in November is for electors who then select the President. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States))


The United States Electoral College is the institution that elects the President and Vice President of the United States every four years. Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead, these voters directly elect designated intermediaries called "electors," who almost always have pledged to vote for particular presidential and vice presidential candidates (though unpledged electors are possible) and who are themselves selected according to the particular laws of each state.

This is the American system. If you want to argue America has never been a free country, knock yourself out, but stop whining about your own ignorance.

[Jameerthefear]

And don't get me wrong, this system for voting IS f*cked up. I just find it funny when Conservatives suddenly feel slanted by shitty voting laws, delegate nonsense, etc.

[FillJackson]

http://2nluwg3gxd7r49di871jdzl5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Screen-Shot-2016-04-10-at-7.00.18-PM-660x330.jpg

He would not look out of place in an Al Capone biopic.Damn. I used to work in a gangster-run joint. This guy looks very much like one of the "owners" whose name was on the liquor license. Very much.

[Kblaze8855]

And don't get me wrong, this system for voting IS f*cked up. I just find it funny when Conservatives suddenly feel slanted by shitty voting laws, delegate nonsense, etc.


I realize you would have been like 2 or 3 so you cant remember but.....when Gore lost with the most votes it was just pandemonium on here. And we had no off court forum. It was all in the NBA forum so all the nba trolls were arguing over it. For a good year....everything Bush did involved someone coming in with "He didnt win...." or someone posting a pic of "President" Gore.

One of the first heavy overuses of a gif I remember? When the Southpark where Cartman killed Scott Tenormans parents came on and ISH got a hold of the gif of him tasting the tears of his sadness.

People would post it and talk about the sweetness of liberal tears. And everyone had windows 98 or 2000 and slow computers so the gifs would jam up your browser and piss you off even more.

They didnt give a **** about the popular vote then. But now? "One man one vote!" and "This is not democracy!" yelling "Freeeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooooom!" like Mel Gibson.

They dont really care. Nobody really cares how their guy gets the W. Just want to be on the winning team by any means necessary.

[FillJackson]

Caucuses are somewhat anti-democratic and we have a ton of them. Seem like a relic from a time we were not a media saturated society.

[DeuceWallaces]

I realize you would have been like 2 or 3 so you cant remember but.....when Gore lost with the most votes it was just pandemonium on here. And we had no off court forum. It was all in the NBA forum so all the nba trolls were arguing over it. For a good year....everything Bush did involved someone coming in with "He didnt win...." or someone posting a pic of "President" Gore.

One of the first heavy overuses of a gif I remember? When the Southpark where Cartman killed Scott Tenormans parents came on and ISH got a hold of the gif of him tasting the tears of his sadness.

People would post it and talk about the sweetness of liberal tears.

They didnt give a **** about the popular vote then. But now? "One man one vote!" and "This is not democracy!" yelling "Freeeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooooom!" like Mel Gibson.

They dont really care. Nobody really cares how their guy gets the W. Just want to be on the winning team by any means necessary.

Thank God there was no Facebook, Reddit, Twitter...It was already an unbearable shit storm. You wouldn't be able to use the internet for a month if it happened now.

[Nick Young]

What a time what a time....you are indirectly saying a person's vote does not count. Are we in a free country?

Your boy tried to tell me our government is squeaky clean.

12 Years A Slave? I got a movie for you to be in.....Forever A Slave.
This is the lefty way.

[FillJackson]

Thank God there was no Facebook, Reddit, Twitter...It was already an unbearable shit storm. You wouldn't be able to use the internet for a month if it happened now.
Contested convention will probably come close.

[Godzuki]

its the GOP establishment that is scared of Trump. if anything in this country has a illuminati its the GOP party that basically controls everything from the top down. its how Michael Steele became the GOP lead at one point out of nowhere. they want someone controllable that stands for their religious, pro gun, etc. etc. beliefs and Trump is far from that guy with a history that is more liberal than far right republican.

if u followed past elections and how the GOP works you'd know their party is very organized and controlled not by the people but the power backers at the top. they're a very calculated and coordinated entity that the Dem's could only counter with pandering poor people votes otherwise they'd be completely outmatched.

[KyrieTheFuture]

What does that have to do with the CO GOP tweeting out #NeverTrump?

If it was all his fault, what would you have done to win the nomination in a state that, clearly, was never going to vote for you no matter what?

This should be good.
Why is it when Trump tweets dumb shit you say it obviously wasn't him it was a dumb intern but this tweet is now a conspiracy of the GOP?

[Godzuki]

Why is it when Trump tweets dumb shit you say it obviously wasn't him it was a dumb intern but this tweet is now a conspiracy of the GOP?


why u always talk like theres a chicken bone up ure ass? :coleman:

[KyrieTheFuture]

why u always talk like theres a chicken bone up ure ass? :coleman:
Why you always talk like you're choking on dog meat?

[Godzuki]

Why you always talk like you're choking on dog meat?

why u always talk like u choking on people meat? :oldlol:

[UK2K]

Why is it when Trump tweets dumb shit you say it obviously wasn't him it was a dumb intern but this tweet is now a conspiracy of the GOP?

I don't recall ever even implying, in the slightest, that Trump wasn't responsible for his Tweets.

The CO GOP said they were hacked though, so the 'it was just an intern' cover-up won't fly.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I don't recall ever even implying, in the slightest, that Trump wasn't responsible for his Tweets.

The CO GOP said they were hacked though, so the 'it was just an intern' cover-up won't fly.
Eh I could be wrong, not like I have this shit bookmarked to go double check like some weirdos on here.

Let's be real, whether it was a hacker or not, nothing is going to happen. No one will care in 4 days.