True or False: The youth of today are dumber than dirt

[Patrick Chewing]

Between BLM, Transgender rights, anti-Trump protesters not knowing why they are protesting, it's just a mess of incompetence and downright stupidity that is being displayed by a majority of youth today it seems. Am I wrong?


I often look at my co-worker and I despise her sometimes. She comes off as snobby, and pretends to lecture me about Transgenderism. She is convinced that if people want to identify as the opposite sex, then we have to respect that. That is bonkers. She supports Bernie Sanders, but has never seen one of his debates. He just wants "to improve society" and she's all for that.

If it was legal to do so, I'd strangle the piss out of her.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

True or False. Tenderness to fools is the mark of the wise man.

[Patrick Chewing]

True or False. Tenderness to fools is the mark of the wise man.


You speak in riddles and in tongues.

[longtime lurker]

Between BLM, Transgender rights, anti-Trump protesters not knowing why they are protesting, it's just a mess of incompetence and downright stupidity that is being displayed by a majority of youth today it seems. Am I wrong?


I often look at my co-worker and I despise her sometimes. She comes off as snobby, and pretends to lecture me about Transgenderism. She is convinced that if people want to identify as the opposite sex, then we have to respect that. That is bonkers. She supports Bernie Sanders, but has never seen one of his debates. He just wants "to improve society" and she's all for that.

If it was legal to do so, I'd strangle the piss out of her.

It's more like the old timers these days are dumb as shit since it seems that they don't know how to use google to research what these organizations are protesting for.

[Patrick Chewing]

It's more like the old timers these days are dumb as shit since it seems that they don't know how to use google to research what these organizations are protesting for.


What you mean old timers? The Trump protesters never seem to answer the question as to why they are there.

You hear a lot of "uhh", "well", a few stutters, then they end it by saying "I rather not say" :oldlol:

[Draz]

Can we give transgender "rights" a pass? I mean, a little slack for the people that were ultimately born this way and had no chosen the lifestyle? I really feel for those people that had no other option.

[Jameerthefear]

My generation > your generation

[Patrick Chewing]

Can we give transgender "rights" a pass? I mean, a little slack for the people that were ultimately born this way and had no chosen the lifestyle? I really feel for those people that had no other option.


Expand on this please. You think Transgenderism is a real thing?


The unpopular opinion is that clearly this is a mental disorder. Any doctor will tell you this.

[Draz]

My generation > your generation
NAAAA

My generation was

Pokemon (IN ITS PRIME)
Digimon
DBZ
Avatar the last airbender
Yugioh
Johnny Bravo
Jimmy Neutron
The Simpsons (IN ITS PRIME)
Tom & Jerry
Drake & Josh
Ed, Edd & Eddy
Courage The Cowardly Dog
Dexter
Cow & Chicken
Full House
Fresh Prince
Scooby Doo
PINKY & THE BRAIN
Thomas & Friends
Rugrats
Hey Arnold
Kenan & Kel
Catdog
Rocketpower
Spongebob
All That
The Amanda Show

:roll: :roll:

..

90's

>

[Nanners]

guess OP must be a youth then

[Jameerthefear]

NAAAA

My generation was

Pokemon (IN ITS PRIME)
Digimon
DBZ
Avatar the last airbender
Yugioh
Johnny Bravo
Jimmy Neutron
The Simpsons (IN ITS PRIME)
Tom & Jerry
Drake & Josh
Ed, Edd & Eddy
Courage The Cowardly Dog
Dexter
Cow & Chicken
Full House
Fresh Prince
Scooby Doo
PINKY & THE BRAIN
Thomas & Friends
Rugrats
Hey Arnold
Kenan & Kel
Catdog
Rocketpower
Spongebob
All That
The Amanda Show

:roll: :roll:

..

90's

>
You do realize we're the same generation and I grew up watching literally every single one of these shows, right?

[DeuceWallaces]

The youths of every generation are dumb as shit. The older you get the more you realize and appreciate what you don't know.

[Draz]

You do realize we're the same generation and I grew up watching literally every single one of these shows, right?
Every single one of those shows you've seen? :biggums: This man ahead his time

[Nilocon165]

Between BLM, Transgender rights, anti-Trump protesters not knowing why they are protesting, it's just a mess of incompetence and downright stupidity that is being displayed by a majority of youth today it seems. Am I wrong?


I often look at my co-worker and I despise her sometimes. She comes off as snobby, and pretends to lecture me about Transgenderism. She is convinced that if people want to identify as the opposite sex, then we have to respect that. That is bonkers. She supports Bernie Sanders, but has never seen one of his debates. He just wants "to improve society" and she's all for that.

Sh*t in my mouth baby girl

If it was legal to do so, I'd strangle the piss out of her.
:biggums: Why did you feel the need to add that

[longtime lurker]

What you mean old timers? The Trump protesters never seem to answer the question as to why they are there.

You hear a lot of "uhh", "well", a few stutters, then they end it by saying "I rather not say" :oldlol:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/16/donald-trump-protest-grassroots-movement

Here you go dipsh!t. I did your work for you. All it took was a 30 google search.

[Patrick Chewing]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/16/donald-trump-protest-grassroots-movement

Here you go dipsh!t. I did your work for you. All it took was a 30 google search.


Oh God, I guess this thread applies directly to you then.


Even I, an ardent Trump hater can admit that Trump has never said he hates Mexicans or Muslims. They're protesting over a false narrative. Just like "Hands Up Don't Shoot". You are part of this generation of imbeciles it seems.

[Long Duck Dong]

World IQ has been dropping since the turn of the 20th century. We are dumber than our parents and the kids today will be dumber than us.

Idiocracy is in full effect.

[longtime lurker]

Oh God, I guess this thread applies directly to you then.


Even I, an ardent Trump hater can admit that Trump has never said he hates Mexicans or Muslims. They're protesting over a false narrative. Just like "Hands Up Don't Shoot". You are part of this generation of imbeciles it seems.

It's called dog whistle politics, but go ahead and keep remaining obtuse about why people are protesting Trump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics

[Kvnzhangyay]

World IQ has been dropping since the turn of the 20th century. We are dumber than our parents and the kids today will be dumber than us.

Idiocracy is in full effect.

Pretty much every scientific study disagrees with you but ok

I think the smartness disparity is growing, however

[Long Duck Dong]

Pretty much every scientific study disagrees with you but ok

I think the smartness disparity is growing, however


http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/world_IQ_over_time.gif

[DeuceWallaces]

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/world_IQ_over_time.gif

You may be right, but that is not the appropriate evidence. Terribly written, no citations to back up any ideas presented as facts, not peer reviewed, no statistical tests performed...

[Patrick Chewing]

You may be right, but that is not the appropriate evidence. Terribly written, no citations to back up any ideas presented as facts, not peer reviewed, no statistical tests performed...


Without the statistical data to correlate, I think it's pretty black and white actually. As the population rises, the statistics rise as well. Part of it has to do a lot with immigration, and part of it has to do with resources.

Do you think we were smarter in the 50's and 60's as a Nation as opposed to today?

[DeuceWallaces]

Without the statistical data to correlate, I think it's pretty black and white actually. As the population rises, the statistics rise as well. Part of it has to do a lot with immigration, and part of it has to do with resources.

Do you think we were smarter in the 50's and 60's as a Nation as opposed to today?

Have you considered the possibility that you're a retard who has no idea what he's talking about?

[ROCSteady]

In regards to college kids/ SJWs, I do find it hilarious how most of them love to emotionally label others.

I especially think it ironic when they overuse the word 'fascist' then proceed to censor and persecute anyone with a dissenting view.


LOL I wish Alanis wrote the song in today's times

[Patrick Chewing]

Have you considered the possibility that you're a retard who has no idea what he's talking about?

I've considered the possibility that you're a little bitch that won't answer the tough questions a la Hillary Clinton.

[iamgine]

I dunno man dirt are pretty dumb

[9erempiree]

Yes they are dumb.

Especially the liberal ones that trickled down to my business school.

[NumberSix]

It shouldn't be a surprise that mass immigration from low IQ countries would result in larger numbers of low IQ people.

Of course, these immigrants from low IQ countries vote 8-2 for democrats. So the left has obviously been getting dumber.

[DeuceWallaces]

It shouldn't be a surprise that mass immigration from low IQ countries would result in larger numbers of low IQ people.

Of course, these immigrants from low IQ countries vote 8-2 for democrats. So the left has obviously been getting dumber.

Hey dipshit, most legal immigrants are well educated. Their undergraduate graduation rates are higher than natives.

Do you have a bachelor's degree?

[FashionIssues]

they are the most empowered but don't know how to take advantage of whats available to them.

[DeuceWallaces]

It shouldn't be a surprise that mass immigration from low IQ countries would result in larger numbers of low IQ people.

Of course, these immigrants from low IQ countries vote 8-2 for democrats. So the left has obviously been getting dumber.

Do you have a Bachelor's Degree?

[poido123]

Do you have a Bachelor's Degree?


Is a bachelors degree the only form of education?


I have a degree, but I don't believe that tertiary study teaches you anything apart from the discipline to apply yourself.

Not saying everyone can get a degree, but it's mainly effort based.

[poido123]

Do you have a Bachelor's Degree?



Besides, low IQ is low IQ.


No amount of degrees is going to change that.

[oarabbus]

I dunno man dirt are pretty dumb


:roll:

[DeuceWallaces]

Besides, low IQ is low IQ.


No amount of degrees is going to change that.

The point is he is likely less educated than the immigrants he's complaining about. Moreover, I'm going to go out on a limb and presume there is strong positive correlation between IQ and higher education.

[Patrick Chewing]

Is a bachelors degree the only form of education?


I have a degree, but I don't believe that tertiary study teaches you anything apart from the discipline to apply yourself.

Not saying everyone can get a degree, but it's mainly effort based.


Douche is a snob. He probably has a small circle of friends cause he's alienated half of Michigan with his boasting of having a degree in Botany.


He probably has no street smarts either. Put that clown in NYC and he'll get roughed up pretty quick.

[Long Duck Dong]

Moreover, I'm going to go out on a limb and presume there is strong positive correlation between IQ and higher education.

But would you say current college student IQs and assessment scoring is higher, or even equal to, college students from the past? Particularly in multi-cultural societies.

[~primetime~]

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/world_IQ_over_time.gif
US IQ is going up...all I'm concerned with really

population going ape shit in Africa and other undeveloped countries...not surprising the global IQ would be lowering

[riseagainst]

True or false: The devil you know is better than the devil you don't







True or false: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.

[DeuceWallaces]

But would you say current college student IQs and assessment scoring is higher, or even equal to, college students from the past? Particularly in multi-cultural societies.

Obviously.

[aj1987]

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/world_IQ_over_time.gif
India. :bowdown: :bowdown:

What's with the drop in China's populations IQ?

[~primetime~]

^^^ I didn't read the link associated with that graph but the average IQ in the US is 98 right now...so either that graph is wrong, or it is using a different type of IQ test.

[UK2K]

Between BLM, Transgender rights, anti-Trump protesters not knowing why they are protesting, it's just a mess of incompetence and downright stupidity that is being displayed by a majority of youth today it seems. Am I wrong?


I often look at my co-worker and I despise her sometimes. She comes off as snobby, and pretends to lecture me about Transgenderism. She is convinced that if people want to identify as the opposite sex, then we have to respect that. That is bonkers. She supports Bernie Sanders, but has never seen one of his debates. He just wants "to improve society" and she's all for that.

If it was legal to do so, I'd strangle the piss out of her.
I identify as a 65 year old man, therefore, I qualify for retirement.

And from what I read from several lawyers, this sentiment would absolutely have merit.

Weak ass America.

[~primetime~]

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31556802


The researchers - Peera Wongupparaj, Veena Kumari and Robin Morris at Kings College London - did not themselves ask anyone to sit an IQ test, but they analysed data from 405 previous studies. Altogether, they harvested IQ test data from more than 200,000 participants, captured over 64 years and from 48 countries.

Focusing on one part of the IQ test, the Raven's Progressive Matrices, they found that on average intelligence has risen the equivalent of 20 IQ points since 1950. IQ tests are designed to ensure that the average result is always 100, so this is a significant jump.

The gains have not been evenly spread. IQ has generally increased more rapidly in developing countries, with the biggest leaps seen in China and India. Progress in the developed world has been chequered - the data seem to indicate steady increases in the US, for example, but a decline in the UK.

[UK2K]

Douche is a snob. He probably has a small circle of friends cause he's alienated half of Michigan with his boasting of having a degree in Botany.


He probably has no street smarts either. Put that clown in NYC and he'll get roughed up pretty quick.
I'd take 4 years of experience over a degree any day of the week, if I was hiring.

And seeing some how my job now requires a bachelor's degree, which I don't have, I think a lot of HR feel the same way.

As my aunt would say (she recruits for a large hospital in SC), you hire for personality then train for ability.

[DeuceWallaces]

Good thing you keep getting experience after receiving a degree. They're not mutually exclusive. There's plenty of shit jobs to fill that don't need a degree, but if you want a higher quality of life, flexibility, higher pay, and more potential for career advancement you should get a degree. A B.S./A. at the minimum, because an M.S. is basically the new Bachelors.

[dude77]

there are plenty of dumb college students and college graduates

[Patrick Chewing]

I'd take 4 years of experience over a degree any day of the week, if I was hiring.

And seeing some how my job now requires a bachelor's degree, which I don't have, I think a lot of HR feel the same way.

As my aunt would say (she recruits for a large hospital in SC), you hire for personality then train for ability.


Degrees are somewhat meaningless to me nowadays. I was going to school to become a teacher, and before that (early 2000's) it was to become a Radio DJ. Both are professions that pay hardly next to nothing, and one of them is a profession that is slowly dying out.

Add the fact that obtaining a degree almost certainly implies that you at least have a huge debt to face for the rest of your life, it's not worth it. I'm not saying people shouldn't go to school and obtain a degree, I'm just saying times have changed. I know a lot more people making more money without a degree than people with.

[highwhey]

there are plenty of dumb college students and college graduates
In particular, those that attended the now defunct Trump University.

[DeuceWallaces]

there are plenty of dumb college students and college graduates

I don't think anyone is suggesting there aren't, but I'll take someone who made it through a 4 year STEM degree at a decent university over some dip-shit ex-Marine any day.

[hateraid]

The youths of every generation are dumb as shit. The older you get the more you realize and appreciate what you don't know.

This

We're all entitled know it all shits until life experience teaches us otherwise. Then we try and teach this knowledge to the next generation which was essentially us as kids/young adluts

[UK2K]

Degrees are somewhat meaningless to me nowadays. I was going to school to become a teacher, and before that (early 2000's) it was to become a Radio DJ. Both are professions that pay hardly next to nothing, and one of them is a profession that is slowly dying out.

Add the fact that obtaining a degree almost certainly implies that you at least have a huge debt to face for the rest of your life, it's not worth it. I'm not saying people shouldn't go to school and obtain a degree, I'm just saying times have changed. I know a lot more people making more money without a degree than people with.

Yeah degrees are essential for professionals (doctors, lawyers, whatever), but now the way to get ahead is demonstrate you can think outside the box.

One of the executive VP's recently resigned from my office. He started working here at 16 in the warehouse as a picker. So, by the time he hit 35, he had made EVP.... 19 years.

He did have a degree, but it was only a four year degree (not sure the field) but everyone that works here knew he was a thinker, an innovator, and a go-getter. That's rare to find these days, IMO.

So, while a degree may get you an interview (if you even need one), your interview gets you the job. Simply speaking to someone and showing them you aren't a dumbass and can actually think on your own is all it takes.

[Long Duck Dong]

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31556802

But that study compares nation by nation. It does not take into account that intelligence in European countries and Asian countries are stagnant or declining, and at the same time the native population is declining in almost all of them. The least intelligent nations, while showing some increase in intelligence, does not even come close to compensating for the brain drain and population decline of the world's most intelligent nations.

And even in the developing nations that have rising intelligence, models point to a peak and decline for most of them, with India being an exception. It's not real complicated to grasp. Natural selection no longer applies in an industrial world.

Read up on Dysgenic Fertility. The Chinese are already concerned about models showing a peak and decline of intelligence in the near future and are preparing to combat this with research in embryonic trait selection. An issue that may be controversial in multi-cultural societies but not with them.

[DeuceWallaces]

But that study compares nation by nation. It does not take into account that intelligence in European countries and Asian countries are stagnant or declining, and at the same time the native population is declining in almost all of them. The least intelligent nations, while showing some increase in intelligence, does not even come close to compensating for the brain drain and population decline of the world's most intelligent nations.

And even in the developing nations that have rising intelligence, models point to a peak and decline for most of them, with India being an exception. It's not real complicated to grasp. Natural selection no longer applies in an industrial world.

Read up on Dysgenic Fertility. The Chinese are already concerned about models showing a peak and decline of intelligence in the near future and are preparing to combat this with research in embryonic trait selection. An issue that may be controversial in multi-cultural societies but not with them.

Not only does it account for it, but it statistically proves that notion is false. It's rising, nearly everywhere. That is a meta study looking at nearly 500 reports.

You are making shit up and haven't provided any real testable evidence.

[falc39]

I don't know if it's really a matter of being dumb. It's more of an issue with attitude. More specifically the attitude of entitlment. Growing up with this generation, I never expected anything to be handed to me and I am much better off because of that.

[longtime lurker]

I'd take 4 years of experience over a degree any day of the week, if I was hiring.

And seeing some how my job now requires a bachelor's degree, which I don't have, I think a lot of HR feel the same way.

As my aunt would say (she recruits for a large hospital in SC), you hire for personality then train for ability.

And that's why you should probably never be in a position to hire people.

[Patrick Chewing]

And that's why you should probably never be in a position to hire people.


LOL you're a clown. What does having a degree mean in the grand scheme of things? If you're hiring for entry level positions or any position for that matter, why would you exclude someone with years of experience versus someone who has a degree?

How would you justify it??

[Long Duck Dong]

Not only does it account for it, but it statistically proves that notion is false. It's rising, nearly everywhere. That is a meta study looking at nearly 500 reports.

You are making shit up and haven't provided any real testable evidence.

No it does not. They do not explain the methodology in the article for averaging world intelligence. Whether it's by lump population sum, or the mean total by nation. The article also says the researchers focused on Raven's Progressive Matrice aptitude tests, which are graded on the current bell curve.

If the US was really getting smarter for instance why would SAT and ASVAB scores be dropping steadily over the last 10 years? In fact all demographics are scoring lower than 10 years ago except Asians.

[UK2K]

And that's why you should probably never be in a position to hire people.

Yeah... Somehow my aunt keeps getting promoted, because she's doing it wrong I guess. :lol

I'll take her advice over yours seeing as how she does that sort of thing for a living. Director of Physician Recruitment says you're a dumbass.

[DeuceWallaces]

No it does not. They do not explain the methodology in the article for averaging world intelligence. Whether it's by lump population sum, or the mean total by nation. The article also says the researchers focused on Raven's Progressive Matrice aptitude tests, which are graded on the current bell curve.

If the US was really getting smarter for instance why would SAT and ASVAB scores be dropping steadily over the last 10 years? In fact all demographics are scoring lower than 10 years ago except Asians.

Yes it does. You completely missed the point.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614001718

[DeuceWallaces]

Yeah... Somehow my aunt keeps getting promoted, because she's doing it wrong I guess. :lol

I'll take her advice over yours seeing as how she does that sort of thing for a living. Director of Physician Recruitment says you're a dumbass.

1. Your aunt is basically head secretary/HR.
2. She is likely at least 45 and from another generation where it mattered less.

The latter being the whole ****ing point of the conversation. You need a degree now more than ever. You can pull and endless supply of anecdotes for your aunt or Bill Gates, but they don't mean shit or reflect the reality for the remaining 95% of the workforce.

It's a godsend you can even dress yourself in the morning. My question to you is who's putting your pants on?

[Patrick Chewing]

1. Your aunt is basically head secretary/HR.
2. She is likely at least 45 and from another generation where it mattered less.

The latter being the whole ****ing point of the conversation. You need a degree now more than ever. You can pull and endless supply of anecdotes for your aunt or Bill Gates, but they don't mean shit or reflect the reality for the remaining 95% of the workforce.

It's a godsend you can even dress yourself in the morning. My question to you is who's putting your pants on?


Do you acknowledge though that there are plenty of people without degrees that make way more money than those with??

[UK2K]

Lol no, pretty sure her title says:

Director of Physician Recruitment

I'm sitting here looking at it. She has A secretary, actually I think she has several.

Because you turned out to be a nothing doesn't mean others haven't had success. :lol

[DeuceWallaces]

Lol no, pretty sure her title says:

Director of Physician Recruitment

I'm sitting here looking at it. She has A secretary, actually I think she has several.

Because you turned out to be a nothing doesn't mean others haven't had success. :lol

She is a degree-less HR rep, who I assume, has had to work at the same hospital or clinic for many years to attain a middle class life with very limited power. My step dad is the same. Done well for themselves with just high school, but it's not the 70's anymore and you're a ****ing idiot if you feel that's justification to not get at least a B.S./A. in this generation. You realize how retarded you come off?


Do you acknowledge though that there are plenty of people without degrees that make way more money than those with??

http://s24.postimg.org/i1f81lted/chart.jpg

A man with a B.S., on average makes 700 dollars more per week than a man with a high school degree. That is 36.4K per year. Even if you leave undergrad with 40K in debt it's made back in less than 1.25 years and you will double their income for the next 30-40 years. That doesn't even include your better health care, retirement plan, and flexible work schedule.

You can make up all the anecdotes you want. Talk about your great uncle who is head of the meat department at Kroger, your middle management job in some shit-house white collar job with no room for advancement, but the fact remains, getting a degree is more important than ever.

EDIT: A man with a bachelors and some experience. I misread.

[Dresta]

Yeah, because with the inflating and dilution of education, of educational standards, and the sheer surplus of people attending higher education, we've created conditions where it's necessary to have a diploma for many jobs that don't really require it. An undergrad degree today is no more useful than graduating high school 50 years ago--this isn't "progress", it's a simple process of inflation. Employers might as well make high academic attainment a prerequisite, because there's a surplus of people with degrees, and this thins the number of applicants. That is the definition of wastefulness and inefficiency. It is also a well known fact of economic development that countries start to meet diminishing regarding education after primary attainment, and better primary school education would actually be a far more effective way for the State to utilize its resources than encouraging everyone to go to College.

I love how the State will pay for people to study banking and accountancy, and other flakey finance-based courses that are outdated within a decade, when otherwise these wealthy businesses would've been forced to provide the majority of the training themselves, and at their own expense.

Hard to ignore the incredible distortions this "everyone needs more education" egalitarian attitude towards going to university has created. It's more a cultural obsession than anything else, which is why there's endless "our kids need to go to college" claptrap on the television. Going to college has come to be seen as the norm, a means of status rather than a real intellectual striving, and that actually defeats the purpose of higher education in the first place.

[STATUTORY]

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/world_IQ_over_time.gif

why is the average trend opposite of each of the individual countries? whats dragging the average down?

[ILLsmak]

False. They have more freedom than they ever did. Which is scary. People being able to get online and do whatever... make secret plans thru their cel phones, take nudipix with the million camera-able devices. So they probably think they are grown.

Some are dumb, sure, but I think the way the world is... kids are just overwhelmed. Kids are pretty beta tho.

-Smak