50 shots..

[Lebronxrings]

How many players could hit 70 with that?

[AirBonner]

Meltdown.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Meltdown.

[IGOTGAME]

how many player have earned the respect to get 50 shots up in regulation. I know Bron hasn't

[Cold soul]

Meltdown.

[Lebronxrings]

how many player have earned the respect to get 50 shots up in regulation. I know Bron hasn't
How many players have the hugeass ego to take that many? I don't recall Jordan doing it, nor shaq, etc. It was pathetic just like this forum for propping it up.

[kamil]

Well LeBron* has a broken jump shot so... definitely not him.

[IGOTGAME]

How many players have the hugeass ego to take that many? I don't recall Jordan doing it, nor shaq, etc. It was pathetic just like this forum for propping it up.

Shaq couldn't get up 50 shots and the fans wouldn't want it. The fans wanted him to shoot every time. You got to give the people what they want.

When Steph retires I'm sure the fans would want to see him try to hit 20 3s and pull from half court...they won't care able percentages and it will happen bc he earned it that respect and admiration for his game

[SpaceJam]

Meltdown.

[Spurs m8]

Kobe is so shit hahaahh

[Lebron23]

Buhaya
Bakaw
Crocodile
Alligator
Lacoste

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[CavaliersFTW]

straight down OPs throat

[BigTicket]

Noone has taken 50 shots since they started keeping records:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_day=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Not that it matters, this was an exhibition game, and Kobe gave the fans what they wanted.

[SwayDizzle]

Kobe is so shit hahaahh
watch it

[SexSymbol]

Kobe is so shit hahaahh
lol.
0 basketball knowledge

[GOATJono]

Take an L OP, W FOR KOBE

[blacknapalm]

MJ shot 50 shots in one game too. sure, he gunned it. who cares? 60 points on 50 shots at 37 years old. 44% FG after starting 0-5. low-key factor here is that gobert didn't play. if you're going to use a narrative, at least do it right.

anybody that isn't a big has marginal defense over the age of 35 for the most part at best. give credit where it's due for at least one night. no need to clutch your stan cape and pee on it overnight.

recognize an all-time great...at least for one night. don't be petulant. so many legends will be leaving us within a year or two. KG, dirk, duncan. so much b-ball history between them all. all champs

[CP3PO]

Well LeBron* has a broken jump shot so... definitely not him.
:lol

[Jasper]

How many players could hit 70 with that?
point on.

Let him go out his way... this is what Laker bandwagon fans like... junkyard play.

[bballnoob1192]

How many players could hit 70 with that?

how about 81 on 46 shots. :bowdown:

[Done_And_Done]

lol Little baby at it again. Last night is just the first of many heart aches to come for you in the short term future.

Cheers bud...

[Gileraracer]

Not Lebron because he can't hit shit beyond 5ft

[pauk]

50 fga - 21 3pt :lol Leave the guy alone it was his last game.... he got the greenlight from all players/staff, they had nothing to lose and fans wanted to see him go out the Kobe way... guns blazing...

[riseagainst]

Got em!


Another one on meltdown mode.


:roll:
:roll:

[Kingwillball]

50 shots plus a couple touch calls on fouls to stat pad still went out guns blazing but give Curry Harden Durant and lebron that many shots in a game along with getting to line between 15-25 shots with that volume I could easily see 75-80 points bring scored. So while impressive still a bit skewed with mega volume of shots.

[nathanjizzle]

lebron stans just dont get it that being scared to shoot and passive is not the way to win. 2/6.

[Levity]

just like lebron in game 1 of the 2014 finals, OP is melting the fck down!!!

i wish kobe took 100 shots :rockon: :cheers: :rockon:

[tmacattack33]

There's only been around 5 games with 45 shots in the history of the game.

0 with 50.

Fun game for the fans though.

[riseagainst]

There's only been around 5 games with 45 shots in the history of the game.

0 with 50.

Fun game for the fans though.

Wilt.....

but apparently NBA only happens on basketball-reference.com or 1983 onwards.

[ClipperRevival]

Most shot attempts since they kept tracking this in 1983. I know I will come across as a hater but yesterday's game further confirms why I never fully liked Kobe as a die hard Laker fan. He didn't play the game the right way. Yesterday's game wasn't an actual game but an exhibition show. As a Laker fan, I am ready to move on. Hopefully, we see some of that optimal, team ball like the GSW/Spurs play.

[ClipperRevival]

The fact is, any decent scorer who takes 50 shots is almost guaranteed to score a ton of points. But in a TEAM game like bball, if you are getting your shots within the flow of the game, you don't get that many attempts. It's only when you play selfish ball that you can even approach that many attempts. This selfish ball just doesn't fly for me. It actually disgusts me because that is not how the game should be played.

[stalkerforlife]

Most shot attempts since they kept tracking this in 1983. I know I will come across as a hater but yesterday's game further confirms why I never fully liked Kobe as a die hard Laker fan. He didn't play the game the right way. Yesterday's game wasn't an actual game but an exhibition show. As a Laker fan, I am ready to move on. Hopefully, we see some of that optimal, team ball like the GSW/Spurs play.

:lol

[Bandito]

50 shots plus a couple touch calls on fouls to stat pad still went out guns blazing but give Curry Harden Durant and lebron that many shots in a game along with getting to line between 15-25 shots with that volume I could easily see 75-80 points bring scored. So while impressive still a bit skewed with mega volume of shots.
He was given the green light in the 2011 finals and we all know what was the outcome.:roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Most shot attempts since they kept tracking this in 1983. I know I will come across as a hater but yesterday's game further confirms why I never fully liked Kobe as a die hard Laker fan. He didn't play the game the right way. Yesterday's game wasn't an actual game but an exhibition show. As a Laker fan, I am ready to move on. Hopefully, we see some of that optimal, team ball like the GSW/Spurs play.


As a hardcore Laker fan I'm sure it killed you to see Kobe outscore the other team in the fourth while scoring 60 and carrying the team to a win :rolleyes:

just stfu and continue stanning Jordan, seriously. Any "laker fan" who doesn't give the utmost respect to a guy who was an integral part to 5 championships and 7 finals appearances for their team, is an idiot. Some big laker fan you are with any avy of another teams player :oldlol:

seriously **** off dude, if you can't respect what happened last night then you need to stop watching the NBA.

Even the biggest Kobe haters I know in real life were going nuts over this game, that was the best game you'll ever see from a 37 year old, he scored the last 17 points for the team and led us to a W

If that doesn't ****ing get those young guns on this team hyped and motivated to work harder than they need to retire, same with you as a "laker fan" with a bulls player avy

[ClipperRevival]

Kobe fans, I meant no disrespect. Kobe deserves the attention and accolades he's getting but that is my personal take.

[TheMarkMadsen]

ITT Lebron stans who think a series of 33 FGA for 35 points on 47% TS is GOAT think that 60 points on 50 shots and 54% TS is terrible :roll: :roll:

[Eye Test]

Lebron will shoot more than 50% on his final game, EFFICIENT. hopefully they keep the open lanes for those 4fga layups :rockon:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe fans, I meant no disrespect. Kobe deserves the attention and accolades he's getting but that is my personal take.


if you seriously can find something to hate on after one of our franchises best players just dropped 60 while giving our team the W then you are not a real Lakers fan

who ****ing cares how many shots he took. We just witnessed one of the best playesr of all time for our franchise lead Lakers to a W while scoring 60 and hitting the GW. That was the best thing that has happened all season for us.

Seriously, this guy the an amazing player for us while he was a superstar for 7 finals runs and 5 championships and you wanna complain about a 60 point game in what was essentially a meaningless game for the franchise?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


No real fan cares about how many shots Kobe shot in his last game, he dropped 60, do you realize how hard that is to do? The Lakers just finished their WOAT season on a high note, but you want to complain about how many shots one our GOAT players took for us in his last game while leading the team to victory.

"Clipper Rival" with a Jordan avatar = massive Lakers fan..

yeah not buying that shit.. every real Laker fan that i've talked to since that game was so happy that our season ended on a high note with Kobe getting that moment.

We just ended our worst season ever with an awesome moment that will never be forgotten and we will get a top 3 pick too. I'm pumped

[ILLsmak]

The fact is, any decent scorer who takes 50 shots is almost guaranteed to score a ton of points. But in a TEAM game like bball, if you are getting your shots within the flow of the game, you don't get that many attempts. It's only when you play selfish ball that you can even approach that many attempts. This selfish ball just doesn't fly for me. It actually disgusts me because that is not how the game should be played.

Not true... haha cuz you gotta have balls. You gotta be ready to go 10-50.

I think taking 50 shots is a feat in and of itself.

-Smak

[ClipperRevival]

Not true... haha cuz you gotta have balls. You gotta be ready to go 10-50.

I think taking 50 shots is a feat in and of itself.

-Smak

It takes a selfish bastard to chuck it that many times. That goes for the NBA, college or the local playground. There is a right way and wrong way to play the game. Anyone who plays and understands the game knows this, even Kobe. Sure, when he had the help to win rings, he played the right way for the most part but on bad teams, boy did he let it fly without trying to get others involved. And that just never sat well with me.

[Smoke117]

Curious to know what kobe will do to feed that gigantic ego now that basketball is out of the picture.

[Magic 32]

He didn't play the game the right way.

Did you miss the 2000, 2001, 2002, 2006, 2008, 2009 and 2010 playoffs?

Too bad. You missed out.

[AlphaWolf24]

IMO it just goes to show you.....how nature works....how the LION Pride becomes the King of the Jungle........Alpha's and Beta's


How many men dream of becoming an NBA player.....how many dream of being in the zone...or taking over a game....or hitting the game winning shot?


No grown ass man with the ability to play basketball just wants to be ordinary....no one dreams and says...." OH man I wish I could just play and be mediocre....and have no one care about me....maybe play " efficient" so no one gets angry with me...

if you do say that...then you are ordinary...you are the BETA!


The saying was...." Like Mike...if I could be like Mike"....that means Jack up 40 shots a game.....impose your will on your opponent....get in the zone and hit the game winning shot!!!!

No one says .." Like Stockton...if I could be like Stockton"....

The best Basketball players in the world play in the NBA....all of them wish they had the balls to shoot 50 times.....or wish they were good enough to get 50 shots off in a game.....

they wish.....Kobe did....on top of winning and Dominating....a living breathing Alpha GAWD!




what a time to be alive...

[ClipperRevival]

IMO it just goes to show you.....how nature works....how the LION Pride becomes the King of the Jungle........Alpha's and Beta's


How many men dream of becoming an NBA player.....how many dream of being in the zone...or taking over a game....or hitting the game winning shot?


No grown ass man with the ability to play basketball just wants to be ordinary....no one dreams and says...." OH man I wish I could just play and be mediocre....and have no one care about me....maybe play " efficient" so no one gets angry with me...

if you do say that...then you are ordinary...you are the BETA!


The saying was...." Like Mike...if I could be like Mike"....that means Jack up 40 shots a game.....impose your will on your opponent....get in the zone and hit the game winning shot!!!!

No one says .." Like Stockton...if I could be like Stockton"....

The best Basketball players in the world play in the NBA....all of them wish they had the balls to shoot 50 times.....or wish they were good enough to get 50 shots off in a game.....

they wish.....Kobe did....on top of winning and Dominating....a living breathing Alpha GAWD!




what a time to be alive...

Please. You can be an alpha dog/killer and still play the right way. Russell was manically driven and competitive but he chose to play D and rebound. Bird and Magic were both killers too but they stayed true to the game and played team ball.

[AlphaWolf24]

It takes a selfish bastard to chuck it that many times. That goes for the NBA, college or the local playground. There is a right way and wrong way to play the game. Anyone who plays and understands the game knows this, even Kobe. Sure, when he had the help to win rings, he played the right way for the most part but on bad teams, boy did he let it fly without trying to get others involved. And that just never sat well with me.


you sound like the dude who always rushes to inbound the ball ...so your teammates think you are doing something...




no one cares......about you.


and you have MJ as an avatar...how ironic....he was the biggest ballhog ever

[ClipperRevival]

Did you miss the 2000, 2001, 2002, 2006, 2008, 2009 and 2010 playoffs?

Too bad. You missed out.

You missed the part where I said:

"Sure, when he had the help to win rings, he played the right way for the most part but on bad teams, boy did he let it fly without trying to get others involved."

And IMHO, he only relented some of his offense so he can win rings for selfish reasons, not for "team morale". Yes, that is my take. And nothing you say will change my opinion.

[Magic 32]

You missed the part where I said:



but yesterday's game further confirms why I never fully liked Kobe

I think you made yourself very clear.

[AlphaWolf24]

Please. You can be an alpha dog/killer and still play the right way. Russell was manically driven and competitive but he chose to play D and rebound. Bird and Magic were both killers too but they stayed true to the game and played team ball.


Kobe won more then Bird.....and Led the Lakers in assists for 5 Championships...as did Magic:confusedshrug:

the only point you made was Russell.....who won more then anyone ever...including MJ.

so maybe if everyone shot less and played Defense the would win 11 titles like Russell:hammerhead:



considering you never watched any of those guys play.....i'll give you a pass on this one



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[ClipperRevival]

you sound like the dude who always rushes to inbound the ball ...so your teammates think you are doing something...




no one cares......about you.


and you have MJ as an avatar...how ironic....he was the biggest ballhog ever

MJ's shot selection was better. He played more within the flow. More off ball too and attacks to the basket. He is the all-time career leader in PER for both regular season and playoffs. He was efficient with his shots. His career FG% as a Bull was over 50%.

[AlphaWolf24]

You missed the part where I said:

"Sure, when he had the help to win rings, he played the right way for the most part but on bad teams, boy did he let it fly without trying to get others involved."

And IMHO, he only relented some of his offense so he can win rings for selfish reasons, not for "team morale". Yes, that is my take. And nothing you say will change my opinion.


please look at MJ's FG attempts with " no help" years...



ironic much?

[ClipperRevival]

Curry is another alpha dog mentality player but he plays the right way. Some guys just can't help but play the right way because they aren't selfish by nature. They know that trying to get theirs at the expense of offensive flow is bad basketball.

Isiah Thomas was another straight killer who sacrificed stats for the good of the team.

[Fire Colangelo]

please look at MJ's FG attempts with " no help" years...



ironic much?

Dude's a Jordan stan.... obviously felt insecure when Kobe had the best farewell game in the history of the NBA.

The fact that he's saying Kobe doesn't play the right way when Kobe was the one that willed them to victory with like 6-7 straight made shots.... I just can't take him seriously.

All the contradictions in his posts:

Jordan has good FG%, so he should be taking shots
Isiah has shit FG%, but he sacrificed FG% for the good of the team.

lol.

[Smoke117]

you sound like the dude who always rushes to inbound the ball ...so your teammates think you are doing something...




no one cares......about you.


and you have MJ as an avatar...how ironic....he was the biggest ballhog ever

Jordan isn't even close to being a bigger ball hog than Kobe or especially Iverson and most importantly...HE ACTUALLY TOOK GOOD SHOTS. Besides the defense that's really what separates MJ from Kobe...he was just a much smarter player.

[red1]

50 shots..
Why not? Team got the win. Fans got their money's worth. Beanbe gets to go out doing what he loves.

Everybody wins.

[AlphaWolf24]

Jordan isn't even close to being a bigger ball hog than Kobe or especially Iverson and most importantly...HE ACTUALLY TOOK GOOD SHOTS. Besides the defense that's really what separates MJ from Kobe...he was just a much smarter player.


FGA MJ = 22.9................KB = 19.5 ( granted Kobe wasn't a starter his first few years......but also look at MJ didn't play in the modern era.....if he did....MJ would shoot way more 3's and far more perimeter shots more FGA's)

so MJ shoots more per game...


moving on...



"MJ actually took good shots"...what does that even mean?...Jordan shot some of the most difficult shots ever....I seen him make so many contested fadeaway shots .....guess what...those are bad shots!!!...

a contested mid range fadeaway is the worst shot in basketball!!! ( according to analytics)...yet that was MJ's bread and Butter......because he could.


like I shown in another thread...7 Bull's players improved offensively without MJ in 94'...by scoring MORE Points and shooting a HIGHER FG% when MJ retired in 1994! ....

MJ shot a slightly higher FG% ( .04%) because his era wasn't as perimeter orientated......but look how many great shooters we have now and how exciting the 3BALL is!! ( thanks Kobe)


_______________________________________

Defensively.....I do think MJ was the better defensive player...anyone who watched both guys would probably agree....MJ was the better pure athlete...
MJ ability to over power his opponent and strength made Dominate the game at a slightly higher level then Kobe....

but this whole Myth that he only took good shots ...or wasn't a Ballhog is BS nostalgia revisionist history...he was the biggest ballhog ever...

and rightfully so...I would rather have Jordan shoot a million contested fadeaway jumpers ...then Bill Wennington take 5' hook shots.

[Smoke117]

FGA MJ = 22.9................KB = 19.5 ( granted Kobe wasn't a starter his first few years......but also look at MJ didn't play in the modern era.....if he did....MJ would shoot way more 3's and far more perimeter shots more FGA's)

so MJ shoots more per game...


moving on...



"MJ actually took good shots"...what does that even mean?...Jordan shot some of the most difficult shots ever....I seen him make so many contested fadeaway shots .....guess what...those are bad shots!!!...

a contested mid range fadeaway is the worst shot in basketball!!! ( according to analytics)...yet that was MJ's bread and Butter......because he could.


like I shown in another thread...7 Bull's players improved offensively without MJ in 94'...by scoring MORE Points and shooting a HIGHER FG% when MJ retired in 1994! ....

MJ shot a slightly higher FG% ( .04%) because his era wasn't as perimeter orientated......but look how many great shooters we have now and how exciting the 3BALL is!! ( thanks Kobe)


_______________________________________

Defensively.....I do think MJ was the better defensive player...anyone who watched both guys would probably agree....MJ was the better pure athlete...
MJ ability to over power his opponent and strength made Dominate the game at a slightly higher level then Kobe....

but this whole Myth that he only took good shots ...or wasn't a Ballhog is BS nostalgia revisionist history...he was the biggest ballhog ever...

and rightfully so...I would rather have Jordan shoot a million contested fadeaway jumpers ...then Bill Wennington take 5' hook shots.

The best scorer ever in the league took a lot of shots...nooooo, you don't say? You actually are old enough watched Jordan play too and you still come up with this nonsense...smarten up, bro.

And LMFAO...Jordan is just a slightly better defensive player huh? LOL. Kobe is about two tiers below Jordan as a defensive player and everyone knows I dislike Jordan almost as much as I dislike Kobe...that's just a damn fact though. If were doing a list of the top 10 defensive sg's...Jordan would probably be 1 and Kobe wouldn't even be top 10.

[Mr Feeny]

please look at MJ's FG attempts with " no help" years...



ironic much?

Wait. This must be a troll account, right?
Did a Kobe fan just call Jordan a ballhog? And reference the Brad seller years?

Jordan averaged over 6 apg in the 80's and in certain seasons e.e.g. 1989 averaged 8 apg.
He shot consistently well. 52%, 53.5%, etc etc while Kobe never managed to shoot 47%fg once in twenty seasons of basketball.

This surely must be a bad joke? Because absolutely nobody but Kobe stans would agree with the drivel you put up. Kobe is considered the most selfish player in NBA history for a reason. If you're in denial, that's fine. But bringing up someone who leads the nba in player efficiency rating over the course of a career and calling him a ballhog is hillarious.
It's as if you're trying to convince yourself that your hero isn't what everyone says he is.

[Fire Colangelo]

Wait. This must be a troll account, right?
Did a Kobe fan just call Jordan a ballhog? And reference the Brad seller years?

Jordan averaged over 6 apg in the 80's and in certain seasons e.e.g. 1989 averaged 8 apg.
He shot consistently well. 52%, 53.5%, etc etc while Kobe never managed to shoot 47%fg once in twenty seasons of basketball.

This surely must be a bad joke? Because absolutely nobody but Kobe stans would agree with the drivel you put up. Kobe is considered the most selfish player in NBA history for a reason. If you're in denial, that's fine. But bringing up someone who leads the nba in player efficiency rating over the course of a career and calling him a ballhog is hillarious.
It's as if you're trying to convince yourself that your hero isn't what everyone says he is.

What does being efficient have to do with being a ball hog?

For example, if you're taking 40 shots per game and making 25 of them.... hell yeah your efficient, but are you not hogging the ball?

[AlphaWolf24]

The best scorer ever in the league took a lot of shots...nooooo, you don't say? You actually are old enough watched Jordan play too and you still come up with this nonsense...smarten up, bro.

And LMFAO...Jordan is just a slightly better defensive player huh? LOL. Kobe is about two tiers below Jordan as a defensive player and everyone knows I dislike Jordan almost as much as I dislike Kobe...that's just a damn fact though. If were doing a list of the top 10 defensive sg's...Jordan would probably be 1 and Kobe wouldn't even be top 10.


Most all defensive teams ever....

stay Discumbobulated:lol

[Mr Feeny]

FGA MJ = 22.9................KB = 19.5 ( granted Kobe wasn't a starter his first few years......but also look at MJ didn't play in the modern era.....if he did....MJ would shoot way more 3's and far more perimeter shots more FGA's)

so MJ shoots more per game...


moving on...



"MJ actually took good shots"...what does that even mean?...Jordan shot some of the most difficult shots ever....I seen him make so many contested fadeaway shots .....guess what...those are bad shots!!!...

a contested mid range fadeaway is the worst shot in basketball!!! ( according to analytics)...yet that was MJ's bread and Butter......because he could.


like I shown in another thread...7 Bull's players improved offensively without MJ in 94'...by scoring MORE Points and shooting a HIGHER FG% when MJ retired in 1994! ....

MJ shot a slightly higher FG% ( .04%) because his era wasn't as perimeter orientated......but look how many great shooters we have now and how exciting the 3BALL is!! ( thanks Kobe)


_______________________________________

Defensively.....I do think MJ was the better defensive player...anyone who watched both guys would probably agree....MJ was the better pure athlete...
MJ ability to over power his opponent and strength made Dominate the game at a slightly higher level then Kobe....

but this whole Myth that he only took good shots ...or wasn't a Ballhog is BS nostalgia revisionist history...he was the biggest ballhog ever...

and rightfully so...I would rather have Jordan shoot a million contested fadeaway jumpers ...then Bill Wennington take 5' hook shots.
Don't know what crack you're on but your numbers are all wrong.
Jordan didn't shoot 0.04% better. He shot exactly 5 whole percentage points better.
49.7%fg to Kobe's 44.7%fg. They aren't close and never have been.

Curry, Lebron, MJ, Durant are all much better shooters than Kobe. A 25 ppg scorer on 44.u%fg is the ultimate chucker. If that's what you're looking for, no need to look far. It's your favourite player.

Doesnt even average 5 apg for his career either. You'd hope he'd make up for his inefficiency with playmaker but ofcourse he trails the Jordans. CURRY'S and Lebron's in that category too.

[Mr Feeny]

What does being efficient have to do with being a ball hog?

For example, if you're taking 40 shots per game and making 25 of them.... hell yeah your efficient, but are you not hogging the ball?

A ballhog is someone who's clearly inefficient and is hurting the team yet insists on chucking up more shots.

Shooting 50-60% and shooting is fine and nobody besides you would call that being a ballhog..

Not to mention the playmaking aspects. If you're setting up your teammates and averaging 8 apg while you score efficiently, that's miles away from chucking relentlessly at an alarmingly low conversion rate and not even making up for that with play making.

[Smoke117]

Most all defensive teams ever....

stay Discumbobulated:lol

Wow a Kobe stan resorting to the "most all defensive teams ever"...an accolade that coaches have legitimately admit they don't care about or take the time to think about when they select. :applause: :applause: :applause: Thanks for enlightening me...

Anybody who thinks Kobe deserves more than half of his all defensive teams knows nothing about basketball and especially defense, period.

[Mr Feeny]

Wow a Kobe stan resorting to the "most all defensive teams ever"...an accolade that coaches have legitimately admit they don't care about or take the time to think about when they select. :applause: :applause: :applause: Thanks for enlightening me...

Anybody who thinks Kobe deserves more than half of his all defensive teams knows nothing about basketball and especially defense, period.

I think it's a gimmick account. This guy is too stupid, even for a Kobe stan. I don't think it's realistic.

[AlphaWolf24]

Wait. This must be a troll account, right?
Did a Kobe fan just call Jordan a ballhog? And reference the Brad seller years?

Jordan averaged over 6 apg in the 80's and in certain seasons e.e.g. 1989 averaged 8 apg.
He shot consistently well. 52%, 53.5%, etc etc while Kobe never managed to shoot 47%fg once in twenty seasons of basketball.

This surely must be a bad joke? Because absolutely nobody but Kobe stans would agree with the drivel you put up. Kobe is considered the most selfish player in NBA history for a reason. If you're in denial, that's fine. But bringing up someone who leads the nba in player efficiency rating over the course of a career and calling him a ballhog is hillarious.
It's as if you're trying to convince yourself that your hero isn't what everyone says he is.


so wait?....

Ballhog is someone who hogs the ball and shoots alot....

Kobe is a career 45% FG while MJ is a career 50% FG...take 20 shots and that's a difference of 9/20 or 10/20.....1 shot!:facepalm

Jordan was a ballhog!

Led the entire league in field goal attempts 9 TIMES

Was in the Top Ten in FG attempts 3 TIMES

Was in the Top 20 in FG attempts once, despite playing only 60 games

The only two years he wasn't among the leaders was because he was injured or came out of retirement and only played 18 and 17 games.

He was the Bulls leader in assists SOLELY based on the fact that he played more games as a Bull than anyone else. Don't think for one moment that Jordan got those assists from setting up teammates or finding the open man. He only cared about his own shots.

Look at 1989, the year Coach Doug Collins tried to put Jordan at point guard. He figured that since Jordan was such a good penetrator, he'd be able to drive the lane and pass to the open man. The only problem was that Jordan didn't like to pass. Most of his assists came from when he was double or triple teamed and had NO CHOICE but to pass.

So Jordan fought off any attempt to make him pass. His selfishness almost cost the Bulls a playoff spot. Thanks to a late season surge, they finished with the 6th seed. Jordan went whining to management, and Collins was fired after the season

You Kobe h8ters are a bunch of Rocks!...

you want Kobe and MJ shooting alot!



( thumps chest)...2EZ!


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[AlphaWolf24]

Wow a Kobe stan resorting to the "most all defensive teams ever"...an accolade that coaches have legitimately admit they don't care about or take the time to think about when they select. :applause: :applause: :applause: Thanks for enlightening me...

Anybody who thinks Kobe deserves more than half of his all defensive teams knows nothing about basketball and especially defense, period.


Discombobulated...2EZ!

Most all defensive teams ever!

2nd GOAT!

[AlphaWolf24]

" Puunks jump up to get beat down!"


I'm slaying fools left and right!

pew....pew...pew....pew...


who's next?

[Fire Colangelo]

A ballhog is someone who's clearly inefficient and is hurting the team yet insists on chucking up more shots.

Shooting 50-60% and shooting is fine and nobody besides you would call that being a ballhog..

Not to mention the playmaking aspects. If you're setting up your teammates and averaging 8 apg while you score efficiently, that's miles away from chucking relentlessly at an alarmingly low conversion rate and not even making up for that with play making.

Google ball hog.

Efficiency has nothing to do with being a ball hog or not.

A difference of 45% and 50% means.... instead of going 11/22, Kobe went 10/22. Big ****ing whoop, this is with Kobe taking like 4000 more 3 pointers in his career.

Their TS%? A huge 2% difference. :applause: :applause:

There are a lot of reasons why Jordan is better than Kobe, and it's not because Kobe is a ball hog.

[Mr Feeny]

so wait?....

Ballhog is someone who hogs the ball and shoots alot....

Kobe is a career 45% FG while MJ is a career 50% FG...take 20 shots and that's a difference of 9/20 or 10/20.....1 shot!:facepalm

Jordan was a ballhog!

Led the entire league in field goal attempts 9 TIMES

Was in the Top Ten in FG attempts 3 TIMES

Was in the Top 20 in FG attempts once, despite playing only 60 games

The only two years he wasn't among the leaders was because he was injured or came out of retirement and only played 18 and 17 games.

He was the Bulls leader in assists SOLELY based on the fact that he played more games as a Bull than anyone else. Don't think for one moment that Jordan got those assists from setting up teammates or finding the open man. He only cared about his own shots.

Look at 1989, the year Coach Doug Collins tried to put Jordan at point guard. He figured that since Jordan was such a good penetrator, he'd be able to drive the lane and pass to the open man. The only problem was that Jordan didn't like to pass. Most of his assists came from when he was double or triple teamed and had NO CHOICE but to pass.

So Jordan fought off any attempt to make him pass. His selfishness almost cost the Bulls a playoff spot. Thanks to a late season surge, they finished with the 6th seed. Jordan went whining to management, and Collins was fired after the season

You Kobe h8ters are a bunch of Rocks!...

you want Kobe and MJ shooting alot!



( thumps chest)...2EZ!


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In other words you admit you're blatantly making up numbers?
Great.

Jordan shot 5 % better and not 0.04 % better.
Jordan averaged nearly 50% for his career.
Kobe has never once shot 47% in a single season in 20 years of basketball.

Jordan ofcourse averages more assists despite not playing with anywhere near the offensive tale that Kobe did over the course of his career.

Ther3s a reason Kobe is considered the most selfish player in NBA history. You can cry about it all you want but it doesn't change the fact that an overwhelming majority of basketball fans view him that way.


Thanks. Come again.

[Mr Feeny]

Google ball hog.

Efficiency has nothing to do with being a ball hog or not.

A difference of 45% and 50% means.... instead of going 11/22, Kobe went 10/22. Big ****ing whoop, this is with Kobe taking like 4000 more 3 pointers in his career.

Their TS%? A huge 2% difference. :applause: :applause:

There are a lot of reasons why Jordan is better than Kobe, and it's not because Kobe is a ball hog.

You just corroborated everything I said. Your Kobe stan called Jordan the biggest ballhog in nba history. And lied about numbers to make their efficieny closer than it is.

As you just admitted, Jordan was more efficient. Goes without saying. Jordan leads everyone in per for his career in both regular season and playoffs.
Kobe is 22nd all time.

So his logic about Jordan being a ball hog (and certainly being and bigger ballhog than Kobe or and anywhere near that) is pretty laughable.

Ofcourse we'll not forget assists. Again. Because Kobe is pretty pathetic in that regards compared to ANYBODY. Wade, Westbrook. Curry. Jordan. Lebron.

Pretty much everyone is a better playmaker than Kobe.

[AlphaWolf24]

In other words you admit you're blatantly making up numbers?
Great.

Jordan shot 5 % better and not 0.04 % better.
Jordan averaged nearly 50% for his career.
Kobe has never once shot 47% in a single season in 20 years of basketball.

Jordan ofcourse averages more assists despite not playing with anywhere near the offensive tale that Kobe did over the course of his career.

Ther3s a reason Kobe is considered the most selfish player in NBA history. You can cry about it all you want but it doesn't change the fact that an overwhelming majority of basketball fans view him that way.


Thanks. Come again.

ok....5%...1 shot difference.....in a totally different era...:confusedshrug:

If Kobe shot 50% or 1 shot make vs 1 shot miss.....still doesn't mean anything.

Using .4% or .5% is always the desperate last attempt to scrape the bottom of the barrel...

sad really.


again....I never said Kobe was a better at FG% er then Jordan was....

Kobe is selfish...rightfully so....look at how much love he gets...look at how much hate he gets....people want to watch him shoot!

he so good at it.....


Kobe led the Lakers in assists every championship run....deal wit it


2EZ...any more questions?

[Mr Feeny]

ok....5%...1 shot difference.....in a totally different era...:confusedshrug:

If Kobe shot 50% or 1 shot make vs 1 shot miss.....still doesn't mean anything.

Using .4% or .5% is always the desperate last attempt to scrape the bottom of the barrel...

sad really.


again....I never said Kobe was a better at FG% er then Jordan was....

Kobe is selfish...rightfully so....look at how much love he gets...look at how much hate he gets....people want to watch him shoot!

he so good at it.....


Kobe led the Lakers in assists every championship run....deal wit it


2EZ...any more questions?

So you made up false numbers? Great.

Thanks for admitting Jordan is not only more efficient than Kobe but is a better playmaker. Kobe is considered the most selfish player in NBA history for a reason.

Come again. Thank you

[Smoke117]

Discombobulated...2EZ!

Most all defensive teams ever!

2nd GOAT!

Nice meltdown bitch.

[AlphaWolf24]

You just corroborated everything I said. Your Kobe stan called Jordan the biggest ballhog in nba history. And lied about numbers to make their efficieny closer than it is.

As you just admitted, Jordan was more efficient. Goes without saying. Jordan leads everyone in per for his career in both regular season and playoffs.
Kobe is 22nd all time.

So his logic about Jordan being a ball hog (and certainly being and bigger ballhog than Kobe or and anywhere near that) is pretty laughable.

Ofcourse we'll not forget assists. Again. Because Kobe is pretty pathetic in that regards compared to ANYBODY. Wade, Westbrook. Curry. Jordan. Lebron.

Pretty much everyone is a better playmaker than Kobe.

My Logic was ( listen carefully)......a person who shoots alot....is a ball hog!

Jordan shot more! then KOBE!....Jordan was .04% or .4%...or .5% better....basically 1 shot!

the difference in 1 shot miraculously make Kobe a Ballhog and MJ not?.....just like the difference in .04%

in a different era of basketball...MJ shot over 50% IIRC 5 times in the 80's....he only shot 50% once his final 6 or 7 seasons.

The game changed alot in the 2000's .....players shoot alot more 3's.....


If the difference of .5% and 1shot....makes Kobe a Ballhog...then the diffrence of MJ shooting 3 times more per game.......should counter act! that...

MJ was the Bigger Ballhog!



damn!...this is 2EZ! ( sips milkshake)

[AlphaWolf24]

Nice meltdown bitch.


9X all defensive 1rst team!!!!

has Wade even done it once?....


pew...pew...pew....

[Mr Feeny]

My Logic was ( listen carefully)......a person who shoots alot....is a ball hog!

Jordan shot more! then KOBE!....Jordan was .04% or .4%...or .5% better....basically 1 shot!

the difference in 1 shot miraculously make Kobe a Ballhog and MJ not?.....just like the difference in .04%

in a different era of basketball...MJ shot over 50% IIRC 5 times in the 80's....he only shot 50% once his final 6 or 7 seasons.

The game changed alot in the 2000's .....players shoot alot more 3's.....


If the difference of .5% and 1shot....makes Kobe a Ballhog...then the diffrence of MJ shooting 3 times more per game.......should counter act! that...

MJ was the Bigger Ballhog!



damn!...this is 2EZ! ( sips milkshake)


Again. MJ da not shoot 0.5 % better. Nor did he shoot 0.4% better.

The difference was 10 times that figure you quoted.
What is it with you and making up numbers.
This isn't difficult.

MJ shoots better.
MJ assists more.
Kobe shoots worse.
Kobe assists less.
MJ is 1st in player efficiency rating.
Kobe is 22nd in player efficiency rating.

MJ averaged nearly 50% for his career.
Kobe never shot 47% once in 20 seasons.

Come again, thank you.

[Smoke117]

9X all defensive 1rst team!!!!

has Wade even done it once?....


pew...pew...pew....

...nikka you are like 50 years old making a fool of yourself on a message board. Congrats I guess...:biggums:

[AlphaWolf24]

Who else wants some?....

[AlphaWolf24]

...nikka you are like 50 years old making a fool of yourself on a message board. Congrats I guess...:biggums:


Not 50 yet....but still pull top shelf Ho's....and wrek shop on the court.




who else needs a lesson?

[Mr Feeny]

Not 50 yet....but still pull top shelf Ho's....and wrek shop on the court.




who else needs a lesson?

Alright this is a gimmick account. There's nobody this dumb on this planet. There can't be.

[AlphaWolf24]

Again. MJ da not shoot 0.5 % better. Nor did he shoot 0.4% better.

The difference was 10 times that figure you quoted.
What is it with you and making up numbers.
This isn't difficult.

MJ shoots better.
MJ assists more.
Kobe shoots worse.
Kobe assists less.
MJ is 1st in player efficiency rating.
Kobe is 22nd in player efficiency rating.

MJ averaged nearly 50% for his career.
Kobe never shot 47% once in 20 seasons.

Come again, thank you.

MJ shoots 3X more per game then Kobe did.....MJ shot .4% better in a totally different era....

( TS% is only 2% diffrence:D )

MJ was the bigger ball Hog





( yawns)

[Lebronxrings]

alphawolf needs to calm down.

[AlphaWolf24]

It's been fun guys.....I'll be gone for a awhile.

I'll check back later to see if any of you kids need help.

have a safe fun Friday.....I do love all you ISH fam.

be safe.




only .04% difference and he played 1/3rd of his career in the 80's when everyone shot 50% +.....


neener...neener...neeener....

pew...pew...pew...

[Mr Feeny]

MJ shoots 3X more per game then Kobe did.....MJ shot .4% better in a totally different era....

( TS% is only 2% diffrence:D )

MJ was the bigger ball Hog





( yawns)


Alright I'm not gonna bother. You must be the dumbest mother f***er in the history of this board. I cannot BELIEVE that anyone could be this dense. I think I'll lose my sanity arguing with you.
No thanks.

[Cold soul]

AlphaWolf24 destroying Kobe haters left and right. He has them all shock total meltdown by them they can't handle it. :lol

[Fire Colangelo]

You just corroborated everything I said. Your Kobe stan called Jordan the biggest ballhog in nba history. And lied about numbers to make their efficieny closer than it is.

As you just admitted, Jordan was more efficient. Goes without saying. Jordan leads everyone in per for his career in both regular season and playoffs.
Kobe is 22nd all time.

So his logic about Jordan being a ball hog (and certainly being and bigger ballhog than Kobe or and anywhere near that) is pretty laughable.

Ofcourse we'll not forget assists. Again. Because Kobe is pretty pathetic in that regards compared to ANYBODY. Wade, Westbrook. Curry. Jordan. Lebron.

Pretty much everyone is a better playmaker than Kobe.

We have a misunderstanding....

Jordan is more efficient.... doesn't mean he wasn't a bigger ballhog than Kobe. Jordan is 10 times better than Kobe, but he was more of a ball hog.

A ball hog that scored so efficiently that it benefited the team, nevertheless a ball hog.

Looking at Jordan's assists numbers are meaningless, dude looked to score more than anything. Just look at Westbrook's assists this year, dude's league leader in assists, yet he's a ball hog if you watch him play.

This is without mentioning that MJ arguably got more star calls than Kobe as well, and shot more freethrow attempts per game. Which aren't classfied under FGA, but are also field goal attempts...

[deja vu]

Noone has taken 50 shots since they started keeping records:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_day=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Not that it matters, this was an exhibition game, and Kobe gave the fans what they wanted.
Is this real?

Maybe in the 60s, it's commonplace for guys like Wilt to take 50 attempts regularly, because of the fast pace.

[Cap'n Obvious]

Not many players have shot 50 shots in a game.

[Lebronxrings]

you can tell alphawolf is a virgin. :lol