Top ten footballers in the world?

[RagaZ]

1. Messi
2. C. Ronaldo
3. Suarez
4. Bale
5. De Bruyne
6. Modric
7. De Gea
8. Muller
9. Griezmann
10. Busquets

Non-biased list.

[navy]

*Soccor

[ArbitraryWater]

*Soccor

you're edgy

[Nick Young]

Messi is not #1. Where the hell was he last night? :lol

[Dr Hawk]

Messi is not #1 right now. Not even close. He went fishing or something for the last months. He's completely disappeared

Same for Su

[alenleomessi]

non-biased list yet has bale 4th and no neymar :oldlol:

bale isnt even the best british player right now.. kane and vardy are better.. dont even remember him doing anything memorable after scoring in that CL final.. which was 2 years ago.. he is injured all the time

[highwhey]

1.) Chicharito

[ArbitraryWater]

entire barca forums not ranking Messi #1 right now but this is supposed to be unbiased? :lol

[kurple]

entire barca forums not ranking Messi #1 right now but this is supposed to be unbiased? :lol
They are just upset

who is better than him?

[alenleomessi]

They are just upset

who is better than him?
jamie vardy is the only one better

[9erempiree]

non-biased list yet has bale 4th and no neymar :oldlol:

bale isnt even the best british player right now.. kane and vardy are better.. dont even remember him doing anything memorable after scoring in that CL final.. which was 2 years ago.. he is injured all the time

I agree with Neymar should be on the list.

As someone that know nothing about EPL or even watch it...I have to say Bale is better than those guys.

[fiddy]

1.) Chicharito
Scrubarito pls :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

They are just upset

who is better than him?

I cant honestly take anyone seriously who still believes Messi is the best and isnt aware of his fitness and walk in the park issues, lax attitude, complaining mentality, etc. excuse galore.

Whos better? Suarez and Neymar, for starters? The same guys who rolled Barca to a record start with a record duo scoring streak in his absence?

[9erempiree]

Ronaldo is currently the best player in soccer.

Messi is top 5 but no longer the best. He hasn't been the best for quite some time now.

Last year's Ballon was a joke to be honest.

[Wally450]

New to club soccer, where do you guys rank Paul Pogba?

[pauk]

Vardy! :)

[Canelo_Griffin]

Scrubarito pls :roll:

You still mad that scrub snatched Berbatov's starting spot at ManU? :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

New to club soccer, where do you guys rank Paul Pogba?

top 20-25 ish

[Uncle Drew]

Lists like these make no sense. It is impossible to compare a CB to a RW, for instance. Godin is by far the best defender in the world, and he wouldn't make anyones list, while he is the best at what he's supposed to do.

[LJJ]

Ragaz why are you all up in here with these nonsense threads while you are flunking out hard here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=403554

[ArbitraryWater]

Lists like these make no sense. It is impossible to compare a CB to a RW, for instance. Godin is by far the best defender in the world, and he wouldn't make anyones list, while he is the best at what he's supposed to do.

you simply compare the impact they have at what they do, youngin...

Godin doesnt have more impact than Suarez, for example.

[Uncle Drew]

Godin doesnt have more impact than Suarez, for example.
Bullshit.

[iamgine]

How would prime Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Batistuta, and Henry rank in today's top ten?

[ArbitraryWater]

Bullshit.

You said you cant evaluate impact from such different positions but call bullshit?

You = Moron.

[Uncle Drew]

You said you cant evaluate impact from such different positions but call bullshit?

You = Moron.
I never used any form of the word impact whatsoever, you did.

You = Nazi.

[ArbitraryWater]

I never used any form of the word impact whatsoever, you did.

You = Nazi.

You dont have to, you still called bullshit on it as you specifically pointed out that sentence :lol Stop trying to type your way around it, thats just you being retarded.

I would be a neo nazi in that case, by the way... moron x2. Get lost.

[alenleomessi]

Bullshit.
You gotta be joking right? He almost won Liverpool a f*cking title and is the biggest reason for Barca winning the treble.. If Godin goes, Atleti will find a way to be great again.. Godin was barely more impressive than that 20yo french CB they have.. Its the system, not the players. See Dortmund. (Obviously with exceptions, Griezmann and Reus can be great on any team)

[Uncle Drew]

You gotta be joking right? He almost won Liverpool a f*cking title and is the biggest reason for Barca winning the treble.. If Godin goes, Atleti will find a way to be great again.. Godin was barely more impressive than that 20yo french CB they have.. Its the system, not the players. See Dortmund. (Obviously with exceptions, Griezmann and Reus can be great on any team)
The system... This ain't the NBA forum were players get called out for being system players. Godin anchors and leads the best defense on the planet. Do you know how bad Gimenez and Lucas would look without his leadership? Hell, just a few weeks ago Atletico were ran of the pitch by damn Sporting Gijon, and their defense was non existent. Guess who didn't play? Exactly.

Godin prevents more goals than anyone I can think of and here we are talking about ''not having as much impact''.

FOH.

[Uncle Drew]

Same with Busquets. If he's shit, Barcelona is usually shit. He is their Makelele. Take him out, and chances are the whole thing falls apart. Take Messi out, and Barcelona win 0-4 in Bernabeu.

But Busquets doesn't score, so he doesn't have as much ''impact''.

[ArbitraryWater]

Same with Busquets. If he's shit, Barcelona is usually shit. He is their Makelele. Take him out, and chances are the whole thing falls apart. Take Messi out, and Barcelona win 0-4 in Bernabeu.

But Busquets doesn't score, so he doesn't have as much ''impact''.

he..... doesn't. Id understand explaining this to someone who just started watching football, but this is a bit embarrassing, mate.

[Uncle Drew]

he..... doesn't. Id understand explaining this to someone who just started watching football, but this is a bit embarrassing, mate.
Heh, I see you're still mad I've exposed Dirk time after time.

[alenleomessi]

Again, its the system. Busquets is irreplecable the way Barca is playing. Is he more valuable for Barca than Mascherano is for Argentina? Doubtful. Robben played them both in the WC. Guess which one he destroyed

[ArbitraryWater]

Heh, I see you're still mad I've exposed Dirk time after time.

You legit went into those posts thinking you're exposing Dirk? I thought the masondixon guy had you all riled up and you needed to get your emotions out... not sure what worries me more :lol

[Uncle Drew]

You legit went into those posts thinking you're exposing Dirk? I thought the masondixon guy had you all riled up and you needed to get your emotions out... not sure what worries me more :lol
There's no need to be upset, poor, poor AutisticWater

[Uncle Drew]

Again, its the system. Busquets is irreplecable the way Barca is playing. Is he more valuable for Barca than Mascherano is for Argentina? Doubtful. Robben played them both in the WC. Guess which one he destroyed
Agree to disagree. However, Godin was just an example. I could have used any CB, who somehow never come up in top whatever lists.

[Overdrive]

you simply compare the impact they have at what they do, youngin...

Godin doesnt have more impact than Suarez, for example.

Not saying Suarez isn't more impactful than Godin, but a striker's impact by nature of position is more visible than a defender's.

[ArbitraryWater]

Not saying Suarez isn't more impactful than Godin, but a striker's impact by nature of position is more visible than a defender's.

Yeah.. I remember a quote by someone (forgot who), he said something along the lines of "defenders become defenders because theyre not good enough to be strikers". Its kinda true. Nobody really grows up dreaming of becoming a defender. They all try out as striker first. Obviously very vague but interesting.

[Overdrive]

Yeah.. I remember a quote by someone (forgot who), he said something along the lines of "defenders become defenders because theyre not good enough to be strikers". Its kinda true. Nobody really grows up dreaming of becoming a defender. They all try out as striker first. Obviously very vague but interesting.

Yeah, that quote sucks. It's the same as "Bassplayers are Guitarists that didn't cut it". Some guys just dig defense, some like the "6" or "8" role of link up play and don't care for scoring goals themself.

Of course there are enough strikers out there that didn't make it and became defenders, as there are bassists out there who wanted to be guitar gods, but usually those aren't the ones that become the cream of the crop.

Being a defender requires a certain mindset that needs to get nutured from young age. Rarely someone gets retooled at 16, 17 or 18 years of age, because they couldn't make it at their position of choice.

Alaba is an exception, but only because his real position was crowded at Bayern, his talent was to big to ignore and selling wasn't an option. He plays the 8 at the NT.

[kurple]

You gotta be joking right? He almost won Liverpool a f*cking title and is the biggest reason for Barca winning the treble.. If Godin goes, Atleti will find a way to be great again.. Godin was barely more impressive than that 20yo french CB they have.. Its the system, not the players. See Dortmund. (Obviously with exceptions, Griezmann and Reus can be great on any team)
Suarez is a more skilled and talented fotball player, and i would also call him "better". But what the **** are you talking about?

[kurple]

Yeah.. I remember a quote by someone (forgot who), he said something along the lines of "defenders become defenders because theyre not good enough to be strikers". Its kinda true. Nobody really grows up dreaming of becoming a defender. They all try out as striker first. Obviously very vague but interesting.
Are you serious? Nobody grows up dreaming of being defender? What makes you say this

[ArbitraryWater]

Are you serious? Nobody grows up dreaming of being defender? What makes you say this

I grew up playing football, went through the youth stages, many years.. speaking of experience.

[kurple]

So did i and i always wanted to be a defender. Tackle the ******* that knows nothing other than dribbling

Rodman was also my first favorite NBA player


So i can tell you from experience that some kids grow up dreaming of being defenders

[Lebowsky]

I grew up playing football, went through the youth stages, many years.. speaking of experience.
Definitely not my experience. It may be true when you're a 7yr. old playing during school recess, but it is not the case when you join a youth academy. Plenty of kids idolize defenders and want to grow up to be one, although it is true that many more want to be offensive players.

[Overdrive]

I grew up playing football, went through the youth stages, many years.. speaking of experience.

I was a GK from 7 to 12 years old and I loved goal keepers playing myself. The, as much as strikers, could be the heros, but also the backbone. They have to be vocal and organize the defense.

I barely kept playing when I discovered basketball and finally dropped out by the age of 12. Never looked back. I stopped growing at the age of eleven. At 8 I was 5'9" now I'm 5'10" - I know not the best size for basketball either, but I play it for fun - at my age back than I was taller than any other GK. Also was prone to overweight, but fought that off the last couple of years. So no football career, but I still love watching good goalkeeping.

As posted in our big thread in our company "cup" I used to play goalkeeper if we had enough people and I had some nice saves. Nobody came close although I didn't play GK for almost twenty years. Most guys that get put into the goal in hobby leagues and cups are there, because they can't make it on the field. I play there, because it's my first choice.

All that said. When I played hobbywise and wasn't playing GK I played left wing, although a very slow one, but being right footed. Similar to Robben minus the speed. I had a crazy precise shot and freekicking was my specialty. Won several bets in school doing trick shots. Also good, forwardthinking passer. If left wing was taken I played defensive midfield, but I sucked as a defender, think of football James Harden, and they had to hide me everytime I did that. Was more used for link up play, but caused a lot of goals when I had to get back on defense. So naturally I would've hated being a pure defender, but I didn't hate defense itself.

[qrich]

1] Landon Donovan
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