2016 Curry, and the 3 Greatest Seasons of All Time

[warriorfan]

#1 Curry 16 Per 100 Possessions

42.5 points / 9.4 assists / 7.7 rebounds / 3 steals / .3 blocks / 67% TS

#2 Jordan 91 Per 100 Possessions

42.7 points / 7.5 assists / 8.1 rebounds / 3.7 steals / 1.4 blocks / 60% TS

#3 James 09 Per 100 Possessions

40.8 points / 10.4 assists / 10.9 rebounds / 2.4 steals / 1.6 blocks / 59% TS

Curry is better offensively than Michael Jordan by enough to overshadow the defensive difference. Michael Jordan's defense gets overrated and Steph Curry's defense this season has been underrated.

Curry's scoring is so vastly superior to Jordan and James that he blows them out of the water. A 7% TS difference in efficiency is the difference that determines if you are Allen Iverson or Steve Nash

Curry did it while winning 73 games and not stat padding. If he didn't sit out 19 4th quarters and blasted teams he would of completely left Jordan and James in the dust. No doubts about it.

[bigkingsfan]

No one cares. Black Mamba out.

[riseagainst]

Props to all 3 though. Lebron with the 40-10-10

[warriorfan]

Props to all 3 though. Lebron with the 40-10-10

LeBron has 10 assists because he was heavily reliant on drive and kick and has an abysmal number of hockey assists compared to Jordan in the triangle and Curry seeing the double teams from 30 feet out. The added rebounds is for the fact that James plays Small Forward and not guard. If you took the league average rebounding for Point Guard, Shooting Guard, and Small Forward, they would all be equal outliers in terms of rebounding.

I agree that all 3 deserve respect as being the pinnacle of basketball play.

[Dray n Klay]

Lol, the little boy wasn't even top 7 in PER all time gtfo



Looking back, it was an average season outside of the 3 point records

[feyki]

By perimeter players ? Yes .

Jordan

Lebron/Curry .

Curry has the best offensive year , no doubt . But other side , Jordan had goat level defence as perimeter defender . And Lebron had solid too . Curry's just average to good .


And of course ; Russell,Kareem,Wilt,Hakeem,Duncan and Shaq all have better peak .

[Dr Hawk]

By perimeter players ? Yes .

Jordan

Lebron/Curry .

Curry has the best offensive year , no doubt . But other side , Jordan had goat level defence as perimeter defender . And Lebron had solid too . Curry's just average to good .


And of course ; Russell,Kareem,Wilt,Hakeem,Duncan and Shaq all have better peak .

:wtf: :wtf:

[warriorfan]

By perimeter players ? Yes .

Jordan

Lebron/Curry .

Curry has the best offensive year , no doubt . But other side , Jordan had goat level defence as perimeter defender . And Lebron had solid too . Curry's just average to good .


And of course ; Russell,Kareem,Wilt,Hakeem,Duncan and Shaq all have better peak .

The difference between Curry's offensive impact between Jordan and James outweighs the difference in their defensive impact.

Jordan's team finished 7th in defensive efficiency and he wasn't even the defensive anchor of his team (Scottie Pippen was).

LeBron might of even had slightly better defense than Jordan did when comparing 09 to 91 but again Curry's offense is far, far, superior than LeBron's.

[Dray n Klay]

Can Curry pass Chauncey Billups all time before these comparision start?


:facepalm



These overreactions smh

[feyki]

:wtf: :wtf:


Time is ticking , we're going to 2020 . There are a lot of tapes for watching him . And yet someone didn't realize Russell's impact .

[ShawkFactory]

LeBron has 10 assists because he was heavily reliant on drive and kick and has an abysmal number of hockey assists compared to Jordan in the triangle and Curry seeing the double teams from 30 feet out. The added rebounds is for the fact that James plays Small Forward and not guard. If you took the league average rebounding for Point Guard, Shooting Guard, and Small Forward, they would all be equal outliers in terms of rebounding.

I agree that all 3 deserve respect as being the pinnacle of basketball play.
Prove it

[GrapeApe]

Jordan's defense is not overrated at all (except maybe by 3ball). In fact it's generally underrated due to his GOAT scoring ability. The defensive gap between Jordan and Curry is enormous. You can't simply downplay the fact that Jordan was a significantly better 2-way player.

Why not just call Curry's season the greatest offensive season of all time? He certainly has a case. Having the greatest offensive season in history is still a remarkable accomplishment.

[feyki]

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Curry's offense is far, far, superior than LeBron's

I agree with this , margin is significantly .



Jordan's team finished 7th in defensive efficiency and he wasn't even the defensive anchor of his team (Scottie Pippen was).

LeBron might of even had slightly better defense than Jordan did when comparing 09 to 91

On seasons ? Yes . But playoffs ? No .

Jordan played with 102 defensive rating against 115 Ortg Lakers . And he averaged 2.8 steals , 1.4 blocks a game . Lebron played not bad ECF defensively . With only 1.2 blocks and 1.2 steals and 113 Drtg against 110 Ortg Magic . I see , Lebron's defensive rating doesn't show the truth , cause Howard played amazing in that series . But anyway , that wasn't elite as Jordan's 91 .




The difference between Curry's offensive impact between Jordan and James outweighs the difference in their defensive impact

Jordan averaged assists numbers almost as good as Magic at 91 Finals . And plus 30+ points and damn %61 TS .

If i rank them on plus minus metric ( overlooked ) ;


Jordan



Off Tot
Def

+15-16 +22-23
+6-7




Curry


Off Tot
Def

+17-18 + 20-21(Maybe 19)
+2-3



Lebron


Off Tot
Def

+14-15 +19-20
+4-5

[3ball]

#1 Curry 16 Per 100 Possessions

42.5 points / 9.4 assists / 7.7 rebounds / 3 steals / .3 blocks / 67% TS

#2 Jordan 91 Per 100 Possessions

42.7 points / 7.5 assists / 8.1 rebounds / 3.7 steals / 1.4 blocks / 60% TS



Your stats omitted turnovers, which squashes Curry's assist advantage, and leaves him with only ONE category that he leads - true shooting.

Jordan leads in every other category, and his playoff stats destroy Curry's 2016 regular season:



Per 100 Possessions

JORDAN 1991 RS: 42.7 pts.. 8.1 reb..4 7.5 ast.. 3.3 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.6 PER.. 0.321 WS/48
CURRY 4 2016 RS: 42.5 pts.. 7.7 reb..4 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 66.9 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.5 PER.. 0.318 WS/48
JORDAN 1991 PO: 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48



Jordan had higher PER and equal points-per-possession (ORtg), even though Curry's efficiency is boosted by carrying a smaller load on both sides of the ball: he doesn't play defense and scores a lower proportion of his team's points:


....................PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR



.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 35.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)




Since Jordan reached the holy grail of basketball (winning championship and FMVP) while carrying a bigger load, who cares about true shooting.

This notion that Curry is on Jordan's level due to true shooting ALONE is ludicrous - if that was the case, then Tyson Chandler, Ibaka, Dell Curry and Reggie Miller would also be on Jordan's level.. :rolleyes:
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