Imagine if Curry was 3 inches taller and the best defender at his position

[3ball]

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That was Jordan.

He had equal or greater offensive impact:



JORDAN 1991 RS: 42.7 pts.. 8.1 reb..4 7.5 ast.. 3.3 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.6 PER.. 0.321 WS/48
CURRY 4 2016 RS: 42.5 pts.. 7.7 reb..4 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 66.9 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.5 PER.. 0.318 WS/48
JORDAN 1991 PO: 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48



and far greater defensive impact.

so imagine Curry with his current offensive impact, but make him 3 inches taller with all-nba DEFENSIVE impact - that was Jordan.... :eek: .. :bowdown: .. :banana:
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[navy]

Ordan couldnt shoot the 3 as well as Curry.

The reality is 45% from 3 trumps any shot in basketball.

Curry > ordan

[riseagainst]

Ordan couldnt shoot the 3 as well as Curry.

The reality is 45% from 3 trumps any shot in basketball.

Curry > ordan


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[riseagainst]

Imagine if Michael Jordan could score from anywhere and even more efficient.

That is Curry.

[Smoke117]

Curry >>> MJ

73 >>> 72

Poor 3ball...took a huge L last night after Warriors won 73 wins and nobody has even been humoring him and his threads lately anymore either.

[CuterThanRubio]

63 wins vs 73 wins

Who had the greater impact?

[tmacattack33]

Imagine if Jordan had great to elite vision like Curry.

[3ball]

Imagine if Jordan had great to elite vision like Curry.
Imagine if Curry could average 30/9/11 at point guard like Jordan did, including 10 triple-doubles in 11 games, and have the entire league saying he was already a better point guard than Magic and Isiah.

Imagine if Curry could average 8.5 APG in a playoff run while winning a championship, including 11.2 in the Finals... Only in his wet dreams, because we all know he's really in junior high

[ShawkFactory]

Imagine if Curry could average 30/9/11 at point guard like Jordan did for 24 games, including 10 triple-doubles in 11 games.

Imagine if Curry could average 8.5 APG in a playoff run while winning a championship, including 11.2 in the Finals... Only in his wet dreams, because we all know he's really a teenager
The Curry hate about to get really significant over these next couple months :oldlol:

[Nick Young]

Ordan couldnt shoot the 3 as well as Curry.

The reality is 45% from 3 trumps any shot in basketball.

Curry > ordan
shots fired

[Inferno]

Imagine if OP wasn't a fakkit :eek:

[knicksman]

curry didnt play defense and 3 inches shorter and still won more. How big is the gap between the 2 really in terms of skills?

[kamil]

Imagine if OP wasn't a fakkit :eek:

Original.

[3ball]

Seriously.. :rolleyes:
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[tpols]

"imagine if Jordan was 3 inches bigger, that was pippen"

-madonna

[Cocaine80s]

http://imgur.com/d53F9gO.jpg

[3ball]

curry didnt play defense and still won more.



Since Curry didn't play defense AND scored a lower proportion of his team's points than Jordan, he had more help on both sides of the ball:



.................PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR


.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 35.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)






Curry's individual efficiency blows MJ's away.


Not at all - Curry's PER is lower than Jordan's was (31.5 to Jordan's 31.7 in 1991).. This is Curry's first season with a 31+ PER, whereas Jordan has 4 straight seasons of 31+ and a higher career PER.

Also, Curry's ORtg (points-per-possession) is 125, just like Jordan in 1991.

Finally, Curry's efficiency is boosted by carrying a smaller load on both sides of the ball - he didn't play defense and scored a lower proportion of his teams points (as stats show above).. Since Jordan reached the holy grail of basketball (winning championship and FMVP) while carrying a bigger load, who cares about efficiency..

If Curry had a bigger load on BOTH sides of the ball like MJ, his efficiency would be lower like Jordan's.





How big is the gap between the 2 really in terms of skills?



Jordan was the FAR better jumpshooter inside 20 feet - he shot much better on literally 5 times the volume:



.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 48.6%, 72 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga



Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

JORDAN 1997:. 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015:. 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016:. 42.5%, 200 fga




Btw, Jordan's superior passing and play-creating is obvious considering his assist averages are close to Curry's even though Curry has played point guard his entire career.. When Jordan DID play point guard, he averaged 30/9/11 including 10 triple-doubles in 11 games - he also averaged 8.5 APG during a championship playoff run, including 11.2 in the Finals.

Other than 3-pointers, Jordan was better at basically everything - he was a better passer, post player, midrange player, and paint player, and a better shooter inside 20 feet.

Ironically, Jordan wouldn't even NEED his goat midrange shooting to be the best in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Butler and Wade have poor midrange AND 3-point efficiency, but they're still the top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.

Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he'd have goat midrange shooting, which would be a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.
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[3ball]

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Jordan had FAR less turnovers, which squashes Curry's assist advantage, and leaves him with only ONE category that he leads - true shooting.

Jordan leads in every other category, and his playoff stats destroy Curry's 2016 regular season:



Per 100 Possessions

JORDAN 1991 RS: 42.7 pts.. 8.1 reb..4 7.5 ast.. 3.3 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.6 PER.. 0.321 WS/48
CURRY 4 2016 RS: 42.5 pts.. 7.7 reb..4 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 66.9 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.5 PER.. 0.318 WS/48
JORDAN 1991 PO: 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48



Jordan had higher PER and equal points-per-possession (ORtg), even though Curry's efficiency is boosted by carrying a smaller load on both sides of the ball: he doesn't play defense and scores a lower proportion of his team's points:


....................PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR



.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 35.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)




Since Jordan reached the holy grail of basketball (winning championship and FMVP) while carrying a bigger load, who cares about true shooting.

This notion that Curry is on Jordan's level due to true shooting ALONE is ludicrous - if that was the case, then Tyson Chandler, Ibaka, Dell Curry and Reggie Miller would also be on Jordan's level.. :rolleyes:

[NZStreetBaller]

Imagine if curry didnt change at all. Do u think he could beat the GOATs season record?? Being a smaller guy

Oh wait.....

[NZStreetBaller]

The most relevant stat in basketball is W - L

73 - 9 > 72 - 10

[Mr. Jabbar]

ordan :lol