View Full Version : Imagine if Ordan had a J and could hit the 3 ball
Nick Young
04-14-2016, 05:25 PM
If Ordan had a J and 3 point range, he might have been a better offensive player than Curry. Unfortunately, Ordan has no J, and couldn't shoot the long ball.
3ball
04-14-2016, 05:56 PM
If Ordan had a J and 3 point range, he might have been a better offensive player than Curry.
Jordan's offense was better WITHOUT 3-pointers:
Per 100 Possessions
JORDAN 1991 RS: 42.7 pts.. 8.1 reb..4 7.5 ast.. 3.3 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.6 PER.. 0.321 WS/48
CURRY 4 2016 RS: 42.5 pts.. 7.7 reb..4 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 66.9 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.5 PER.. 0.318 WS/48
JORDAN 1991 PO: 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48
Unfortunately, Ordan has no J, and couldn't shoot the long ball.
Jordan was a FAR better shooter than Curry inside 20 feet:
.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data
5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 48.6%, 72 fga
10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga
15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga
Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)
JORDAN 1997:. 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015:. 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016:. 42.5%, 200 fga
Ironically, Jordan wouldn't even NEED his goat shooting to be the best in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Butler and Wade have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency, but they're still the top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.
Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he'd have goat midrange shooting, which would be a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.
CuterThanRubio
04-14-2016, 06:07 PM
Jordan's offense was better WITHOUT 3-pointers:
Per 100 Possessions
JORDAN 1991 RS: 42.7 pts.. 8.1 reb..4 7.5 ast.. 3.3 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.6 PER.. 0.321 WS/48
CURRY 4 2016 RS: 42.5 pts.. 7.7 reb..4 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 66.9 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.5 PER.. 0.318 WS/48
JORDAN 1991 PO: 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48
Jordan was a FAR better shooter than Curry inside 20 feet:
.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data
5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 48.6%, 72 fga
10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga
15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga
Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)
JORDAN 1997:. 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015:. 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016:. 42.5%, 200 fga
Ironically, Jordan wouldn't even NEED his goat shooting to be the best in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Butler and Wade have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency, but they're still the top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.
Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he'd have goat midrange shooting, which would be a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.
Wrong.
Curry shot 2 pointers this season at a higher percentage than Jordan ever did, he is superior at every range, including free throws.
3ball
04-14-2016, 06:12 PM
Wrong.
Curry shot 2 pointers this season at a higher percentage than Jordan ever did, he is superior at every range, including free throws.
These are nba.com's stats - they show Curry shot FAR worse inside 20 feet than old man Jordan, on literally 1/5 the volume - Jordan was a FAR better shooter inside 20 feet:
.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data
5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 48.6%, 72 fga
10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga
15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga
Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)
JORDAN 1997:. 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015:. 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016:. 42.5%, 200 fga
Ironically, Jordan wouldn't even NEED his goat shooting to be the best in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Butler and Wade have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency, but they're still the top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.
Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he'd have goat midrange shooting, which would be a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.
raprap
04-14-2016, 06:48 PM
Ordan would be Tony Allen in todays game. Steph would shit on him, regularly :oldlol:
Ordan would be Tony Allen in todays game. Steph would shit on him, regularly :oldlol:
This factual.
lilteapot
04-14-2016, 06:56 PM
Ordan would be Tony Allen in todays game. Steph would shit on him, regularly :oldlol:
Lmao Curry sh*ts on Ordan in every conceivable way
9erempiree
04-14-2016, 07:03 PM
In b4 ordan's 3 point contest video.
!@#$%Vectors!@#
04-14-2016, 07:09 PM
Ordan would be lucky to make a benchwarmer position in todays league.
iznogood
04-14-2016, 08:12 PM
It should've been written Oran since Madonna said his D was not all that much.
theaussieguy
04-14-2016, 08:20 PM
The only reason Jordans game was effective during his tenure was because everyone sucked at the 3ball compared to Todays standard. Last night was a perfect example of a tired and archaic way of playing the game vs the new and super efficient outside ability of certain players. Randolph was getting his 2 points at will and the grizzlies had no problem scoring, only problem being a poverty 2 points just isn't good enough anymore lol. Was like watching a fight between a lesser evolved creature to a new and improved version. A Neanderthal vs homo erectus if you will. Big slug man Randolph vs super sleek, intelligent non knucker dragger curry. The 2 ball is a tired game.
tpols
04-14-2016, 08:25 PM
The only reason Jordans game was effective during his tenure was because everyone sucked at the 3ball compared to Todays standard. Last night was a perfect example of a tired and archaic way of playing the game vs the new and super efficient outside ability of certain players. Randolph was getting his 2 points at will and the grizzlies had no problem scoring, only problem being a poverty 2 points just isn't good enough anymore lol. Was like watching a fight between a lesser evolved creature to a new and improved version. A Neanderthal vs homo erectus if you will. Big slug man Randolph vs super sleek, intelligent non knucker dragger curry. The 2 ball is a tired game.
true.. the effortlessness with which Golden State scores their points is amazing. I dont think any team ever worked less hard in game to produce what they do, thats the benefit of being able to hit 30 footers like big men hit FTs.
Nick Young
04-14-2016, 08:43 PM
Ordan would be Tony Allen in todays game. Steph would shit on him, regularly :oldlol:
I think he'd be more like Prime Iggy, with more determination, clutchness and athleticism IMO
lilteapot
04-14-2016, 08:43 PM
Michael Ordanary
Andrei89
04-14-2016, 08:54 PM
The disrespect the goat gets on ISH just shows how bad ,truly, this forum is :lol
riseagainst
04-14-2016, 09:01 PM
These are nba.com's stats - they show Curry shot FAR worse inside 20 feet than old man Jordan, on literally 1/5 the volume - Jordan was a FAR better shooter inside 20 feet:
.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data
5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 48.6%, 72 fga
10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga
15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga
Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)
JORDAN 1997:. 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015:. 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016:. 42.5%, 200 fga
Ironically, Jordan wouldn't even NEED his goat shooting to be the best in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Butler and Wade have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency, but they're still the top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.
Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he'd have goat midrange shooting, which would be a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.
all this load of crap is telling me is that Curry is a vastly superior finisher at the rim than MJ as well.
I think you just lost.
:lol
beastee
04-14-2016, 09:45 PM
Man...how cringeworthy of a post is this? With all the solid action on ISH the last 24 hours...you come up with this crap? Damn. :facepalm
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