View Full Version : How much better could Kobe had been...
Im Still Ballin
04-14-2016, 08:57 PM
Had he played within himself and within more of a team concept like Jordan?
He routinely made things harder for himself and his team by taking those insane fadeaways with 2 to 3 defenders on him
riseagainst
04-14-2016, 09:07 PM
aside from 2004, I don't see how anything else could have changed.
Had he played within himself and within more of a team concept like Jordan?
He routinely made things harder for himself and his team by taking those insane fadeaways with 2 to 3 defenders on him
His biggest mistake was shooting too many threes. He was never that good at 3s. He should of just focused on driving, posting up, and mid-range Js.
Im Still Ballin
04-14-2016, 09:13 PM
His biggest mistake was shooting too many threes. He was never that good at 3s. He should of just focused on driving, posting up, and mid-range Js.
Agreed
He was great in 2003 from the long distance, but that was HGH year outlier
His game has always been bread and butter inside the 3pt line... Hell even last night he probably could have shot a lot better without the 21 three's
knicksman
04-14-2016, 09:14 PM
Be tough on yourself and everything becomes easy. Thats why kobe is a winner coz he never settled for easy layups
FKAri
04-14-2016, 09:16 PM
I think fatigue affected Kobe's 3 pt shootin more than the avg shooter. He's a good 3pt shooter if he's not exhausted. Maybe his natural 3pt shot demanded more elevation.
Be tough on yourself and everything becomes easy. Thats why kobe is a winner coz he never settled for easy layups
lol @ this clown. "never settled for easy layups". So he should've been chucking from 40 feet because that's being harder on himself? :lol
Im Still Ballin
04-14-2016, 09:16 PM
Be tough on yourself and everything becomes easy. Thats why kobe is a winner coz he never settled for easy layups
But that's just a dumb as hell way to play the game
With more poise and team orientation, Kobe could have absolutely shot near to 50%
Maybe an extra assist in there too from making the right passes instead of Kobe'ing over 4 defenders
stalkerforlife
04-14-2016, 09:36 PM
There can be only one GOAT.
Kobe's the 2nd GOAT.
I'm pretty sure he did it the right way LOL.
hateraid
04-14-2016, 10:32 PM
I think if he had players who deferred to him from the get go things may have been different. Starting his career with Shaq doesn't help the personal accolades as much. Had he started his career with a team like his second championship run or a prime Nash and Howard things could have went better. Who knows. It's over now and his career is cemented
SouBeachTalents
04-14-2016, 10:42 PM
lol @ this clown. "never settled for easy layups". So he should've been chucking from 40 feet because that's being harder on himself? :lol
:roll:
raprap
04-14-2016, 10:45 PM
If he had bigger hands he would have been better imo.
raprap
04-14-2016, 10:48 PM
Be tough on yourself and everything becomes easy. Thats why kobe is a winner coz he never settled for easy layups
Dumdum :hammerhead:
The Iron Fist
04-14-2016, 10:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwpMtE5CYAA2Kl-.jpg
Greg Popovich "Kobe, you did it the right way".
knicksman
04-14-2016, 11:26 PM
I think fatigue affected Kobe's 3 pt shootin more than the avg shooter. He's a good 3pt shooter if he's not exhausted. Maybe his natural 3pt shot demanded more elevation.
lol @ this clown. "never settled for easy layups". So he should've been chucking from 40 feet because that's being harder on himself? :lol
Bro once you understand ball, youll see that there are no easy layups once you face the best of the best. Great coaches will force you into tough shots. And thats what pop is doing to bran/kobe. Too bad, bran isnt used to these type of shots. All he knew is layups and dunks while kobe has been sacrificing stats in the regular season so he could prepare for them. So when they face the spurs, kobe takes the W while bran L.
knicksman
04-14-2016, 11:29 PM
Dumdum :hammerhead:
5/7 and 2/6 says otherwise:sleeping
Mr. Jabbar
04-14-2016, 11:32 PM
If he had bigger hands he would have been better imo.
pretty much
NBASTATMAN
04-14-2016, 11:32 PM
Had he played within himself and within more of a team concept like Jordan?
He routinely made things harder for himself and his team by taking those insane fadeaways with 2 to 3 defenders on him
I think it would have made a difference in 2004 and maybe he would have won more MVP's as well.. That is it.. He was a player that got extremely hot and than extremely cold... He needed to play the way he played... He wound up one of the best to ever play... NOT BAD
dhsilv
04-14-2016, 11:34 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwpMtE5CYAA2Kl-.jpg
Greg Popovich "Kobe, you did it the right way".
That's pretty comical given how many games he played, lol and he is a guard. Wow! Didn't realize his assists were that bad.
dhsilv
04-14-2016, 11:35 PM
5/7 and 2/6 says otherwise:sleeping
7>6
yep, fact!
knicksman
04-14-2016, 11:37 PM
But that's just a dumb as hell way to play the game
With more poise and team orientation, Kobe could have absolutely shot near to 50%
Maybe an extra assist in there too from making the right passes instead of Kobe'ing over 4 defenders
If you want to be the best, you should be capable of beating a team by yourself. :confusedshrug:
thats why the better you are at iso, the higher your chances of winning
dhsilv
04-14-2016, 11:37 PM
Had he played within himself and within more of a team concept like Jordan?
He routinely made things harder for himself and his team by taking those insane fadeaways with 2 to 3 defenders on him
Jordan didn't do that great a job in that either. These are both guys who did best when someone "controlled" them. Kobe's personality was a big harm to him. There's no debate about that, but it wasn't perfect for MJ either. Outside of a VERY few people was personality not a negative.
dhsilv
04-14-2016, 11:38 PM
If you want to be the best, you should be capable of beating a team by yourself. :confusedshrug:
thats why the better you are at iso, the higher your chances of winning
this is just so wrong....
CAstill
04-14-2016, 11:51 PM
this is just so wrong....
No, you're what's wrong with basketball nowadays
Micku
04-15-2016, 12:03 AM
I think it would have made a difference in 2004 and maybe he would have won more MVP's as well.. That is it.. He was a player that got extremely hot and than extremely cold... He needed to play the way he played... He wound up one of the best to ever play... NOT BAD
His shot selection could've been improved and he sometimes broke away from the team offense. MJ did that too sometimes, but MJ was quick to make his move. Kobe is much more of a dribble iso person than MJ was. Kobe may have been more efficient, but he didn't care that much about it. Phil Jackson even commented on how Kobe tends to try to take over the game much more than MJ. MJ let the game come to him more.
Kobe was still great despite all of this tho. So, not bad. Still one of the best ever to play the game.
knicksman
04-15-2016, 12:14 AM
I think fatigue affected Kobe's 3 pt shootin more than the avg shooter. He's a good 3pt shooter if he's not exhausted. Maybe his natural 3pt shot demanded more elevation.
lol @ this clown. "never settled for easy layups". So he should've been chucking from 40 feet because that's being harder on himself? :lol
And oh. Curry has been chucking from 40 ft genius. :lol i guess he should stop that coz bran stans want him to take only layups. Lol
AlphaWolf24
04-15-2016, 01:04 AM
I just remember last year in the Finals when Lebron played like Kobesque and everyone thought it was the best thing ever...
Kobe played the right way..the Kobe way......just like Lebron tried to emulate in the Finals last year.
wasn't that amazing?...exciting?.....did it not make you want to chuck.
Now look at Curry...he's playing the Kobe way also......except taking 3 point shooting to new levels
How Great is our Gawd
dhsilv
04-15-2016, 05:55 AM
No, you're what's wrong with basketball nowadays
care to explain this one?
dhsilv
04-15-2016, 05:57 AM
I just remember last year in the Finals when Lebron played like Kobesque and everyone thought it was the best thing ever...
Kobe played the right way..the Kobe way......just like Lebron tried to emulate in the Finals last year.
wasn't that amazing?...exciting?.....did it not make you want to chuck.
Now look at Curry...he's playing the Kobe way also......except taking 3 point shooting to new levels
How Great is our Gawd
Lebron has been criticized to no end for his poor shooting last year.
Curry gets criticized for not shooting enough.
Gileraracer
04-15-2016, 06:04 AM
8 rings at least
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