It'll be a disaster if the Cavs don't win the title...

[stalkerforlife]

Most stacked roster in the league.

Highest payroll by far in the league.

Colluded super team playing in a historically weak conference.

If they fail to win the title, it'll be the biggest choke job in NBA history.

Bran will never enter the top 10 if they lose.

[Im Still Ballin]

Only 1 all-star though

[ShawkFactory]

So much work into this preparation

[stalkerforlife]

Only 1 all-star though

:lol

Irving was injured and Love has been minimized by Bran so that Bran's legacy can look better. Bran did the same thing in the 2011 finals and ended up losing because Wade was going to be the finals MVP.

The Cavs have THREE FRANCHISE players. Forget all-stars.

[alanLA92]

Can't wait for the Decision Part 2 on ESPN this summer. Wonder what team Lebron will join and collude.

[G-train]

Most stacked roster in the league.

Highest payroll by far in the league.

Colluded super team playing in a historically weak conference.

If they fail to win the title, it'll be the biggest choke job in NBA history.

Bran will never enter the top 10 if they lose.

If they make finals and lose to a 73-9 team with a top 3 Payroll, is that a disaster?

[BlazerRed]

2/7

[SouBeachTalents]

:lol

Irving was injured and Love has been minimized by Bran so that Bran's legacy can look better. Bran did the same thing in the 2011 finals and ended up losing because Wade was going to be the finals MVP.

The Cavs have THREE FRANCHISE players. Forget all-stars.

How have those two franchise players done in the playoffs without LeBron?

[GrapeApe]

How are they a super-team? :oldlol:

Irving and Love had never even made the playoffs before last season. A big reason for that is they are both atrocious defenders. Don't get me wrong, they are good players, but that's all they are. Good players who haven't led a team anywhere in their careers. The Cavs' payroll is irrelevant. Salary has nothing to do with production, especially when players are overpaid (Tristan Thompson).

The Cavs are in the second tier of title contenders along with OKC. A team just won an NBA record 73 games, yet if the Cavs don't win it will be the biggest choke job in NBA history? You're trying WAY too hard.

[Shogon Ramel]

OP is a *******.

You've' literally posted this exact same thread at least two other times. Are you trying to convince other people or yourself? The Warriors just set the all time wins record and here you are yet again trying to prop up the Cavs in an attempt to diminish another man's worth.

You are beyond pathetic, even if your entire persona is real or an elaborate troll. It doesn't matter. You are useless and Kobe doesn't care about you, yet here you are, ready and willing to drink a glass of his children on a moments notice.

Stop posting and find something useful to do with your life. Just stop posting, you ******.

[tpols]

How have those two franchise players done in the playoffs without LeBron?


kevin love wouldve led the twolves to a playoff spot in most times and conferences. the team won 48 games ffs. They wouldve been 4 / 5 seed in todays east and 3 / 4 seed in 2014 east..

you needed 49 wins to make the playoffs in the 2014 west. It was beyond stacked.

[Cocaine80s]

It'll be a disaster when op's welfare checks stop coming in

[Fudge]

OP is a *******.

You've' literally posted this exact same thread at least two other times. Are you trying to convince other people or yourself? The Warriors just set the all time wins record and here you are yet again trying to prop up the Cavs in an attempt to diminish another man's worth.

You are beyond pathetic, even if your entire persona is real or an elaborate troll. It doesn't matter. You are useless and Kobe doesn't care about you, yet here you are, ready and willing to drink a glass of his children on a moments notice.

Stop posting and find something useful to do with your life. Just stop posting, you ******.
:roll:

Savagery.

[stalkerforlife]

Can't wait for the Decision Part 2 on ESPN this summer. Wonder what team Lebron will join and collude.

You mean part 3?

[stalkerforlife]

How have those two franchise players done in the playoffs without LeBron?

Who was Irving and Love's 2nd best players and supporting casts?

I'll wait for you to try and wiggle out of this one...

[SouBeachTalents]

kevin love wouldve led the twolves to a playoff spot in most times and conferences. the team won 48 games ffs. They wouldve been 4 / 5 seed in todays east and 3 / 4 seed in 2014 east..

you needed 49 wins to make the playoffs in the 2014 west. It was beyond stacked.

:biggums: The Timberwolves had a losing record in 2014

[stalkerforlife]

How are they a super-team? :oldlol:

Irving and Love had never even made the playoffs before last season. A big reason for that is they are both atrocious defenders. Don't get me wrong, they are good players, but that's all they are. Good players who haven't led a team anywhere in their careers. The Cavs' payroll is irrelevant. Salary has nothing to do with production, especially when players are overpaid (Tristan Thompson).

The Cavs are in the second tier of title contenders along with OKC. A team just won an NBA record 73 games, yet if the Cavs don't win it will be the biggest choke job in NBA history? You're trying WAY too hard.

Once again...who the hell were their 2nd best players and supporting casts?

Please wiggle for me, little worm.

[alanLA92]

You mean part 3?

Nope part 2. He didn't go on live TV to announce his return to the Cavs.:lol

[SouBeachTalents]

Who was Irving and Love's 2nd best players and supporting casts?

I'll wait for you to try and wiggle out of this one...

A "franchise" player should be able to at minimum make the playoffs on a semi-regular basis regardless of who their teammates are. To go year after year of missing the playoffs, and to literally NEVER make the playoffs, proves you aren't a "franchise" player

[tpols]

:biggums: The Timberwolves had a losing record in 2014

fk.. youre right. That still wouldve made the 2014 east playoffs though. love is bosh level.

[stalkerforlife]

A "franchise" player should be able to at minimum make the playoffs on a semi-regular basis regardless of who their teammates are. To go year after year of missing the playoffs, and to literally NEVER make the playoffs, proves you aren't a "franchise" player

That's what I thought, little worm.

Keep wiggling.

Your agenda is clear, even if you are a pretend Heat fan.

"Year after year." Irving was 19, 20, and 21 in his first three seasons and had horrid supporting casts, you schmuck. :lol Love had horrid supporting casts in a historically strong conference.

Grow up, dude.

[Fudge]

LeBron and Durant have the worst supporting casts among contenders.

[stalkerforlife]

LeBron and Durant have the worst supporting casts among contenders.

Do you ever tell the truth? :lol

[VIP2000]

kevin love wouldve led the twolves to a playoff spot in most times and conferences. the team won 48 games ffs. They wouldve been 4 / 5 seed in todays east and 3 / 4 seed in 2014 east..

you needed 49 wins to make the playoffs in the 2014 west. It was beyond stacked.

The Twolves were actually 10th in the West that year. A Suns team with Goran Dragic, Eric Bledsoe only playing half a season, and a bunch of role players had a better record than the Kevin Love-led team.

He's at best a 2nd option on a championship-caliber team.

[GrapeApe]

kevin love wouldve led the twolves to a playoff spot in most times and conferences. the team won 48 games ffs. They wouldve been 4 / 5 seed in todays east and 3 / 4 seed in 2014 east..

you needed 49 wins to make the playoffs in the 2014 west. It was beyond stacked.

Yeah, the west was brutal for sure. Love is like Bosh in that he's a good player but not a centerpiece for a title contender. Also like Bosh he's having trouble adjusting to a new role, but the difference is Love is a terrible defender. Bosh was able to make it work because of his defense, which has always been highly underrated. Bosh is arguably the best PnR defender in the league, Love is arguably one of the worst.

Irving is also a bad defender. It's tough to win a championship when 2 of your best 3 players are bad defenders. The Heat's "big 3" in contrast were all good to great defenders.

[tpols]

Yeah, the west was brutal for sure. Love is like Bosh in that he's a good player but not a centerpiece for a title contender. Also like Bosh he's having trouble adjusting to a new role, but the difference is Love is a terrible defender. Bosh was able to make it work because of his defense, which has always been highly underrated. Bosh is arguably the best PnR defender in the league, Love is arguably one of the worst.

Irving is also a bad defender. It's tough to win a championship when 2 of your best 3 players are bad defenders. The Heat's "big 3" in contrast were all good to great defenders.

ive always maintained that cleveland would be better off stacked with elite defensive personell rather than love and irving, and got trolled in last years playofs for it. But Lebron wanted to stack his teams up with biggest "stars" to give himself best chance.. cant say im not enjoying the outcome.

[GrapeApe]

That's what I thought, little worm.

Keep wiggling.

Your agenda is clear, even if you are a pretend Heat fan.

"Year after year." Irving was 19, 20, and 21 in his first three seasons and had horrid supporting casts, you schmuck. :lol Love had horrid supporting casts in a historically strong conference.

Grow up, dude.

Are you going to even acknowledge the fact that Love and Irving are garbage defenders?

What about the fact that you said a 58 win team not winning a title is a bigger choke job than a 73 win team not winning a title?

You only address what suits your agenda.

[stalkerforlife]

Are you going to even acknowledge the fact that Love and Irving are garbage defenders?

What about the fact that you said a 58 win team not winning a title is a bigger choke job than a 73 win team not winning a title?

You only address what suits your agenda.

Are you going to acknowledge the fact that Bran is a garbage defender? Or that stats tell us Love is a good defender?

[ShawkFactory]

Are you going to acknowledge the fact that Bran is a garbage defender? Or that stats tell us Love is a good defender?
Aren't you one of those eye test guys?

[stalkerforlife]

Here...watch your hero, Bran, play defense...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK9wLWF8TXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKUCE_5H7Iw

But keep blaming Irving and Love to fit your agenda.

[stalkerforlife]

Aren't you one of those eye test guys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK9wLWF8TXo

How's that for an eye test?

[Smoke117]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK9wLWF8TXo

How's that for an eye test?

The disaster is that a straight razor hasn't found your wrists...

[Nilocon165]

The disaster is that a straight razor hasn't found your wrists...
Chill

[GrapeApe]

Are you going to acknowledge the fact that Bran is a garbage defender? Or that stats tell us Love is a good defender?

No they don't. Are you seriously going to argue that Love is a good defender? :oldlol:

He literally does NOTHING well on defense. Poor lateral movement, poor range, poor instincts, average at best post defense, poor effort, and zero rim protection.

Lebron is at worst an above average defender and he's BY FAR the best defender among the big 3. Calling him a garbage defender is absurd. There's not a single NBA coach who would agree with you. He is still capable of playing elite defense.

What about Irving? I suppose your going to call him a good defender too?

You're reaching Dubeta level trolling and stupidity.

[bobopenguin]

The disaster is that a straight razor hasn't found your wrists...

why so tense, man?:(

[Nilocon165]

No they don't. Are you seriously going to argue that Love is a good defender? :oldlol:

He literally does NOTHING well on defense. Poor lateral movement, poor range, poor instincts, average at best post defense, and zero rim protection.

Lebron is at worst an above average defender and he's BY FAR the best defender among the big 3. Calling him a garbage defender is absurd. There's not a single NBA coach who would agree with you. He is still capable of playing elite defense.

What about Irving? I suppose your going to call him a good defender too?

You're reaching Dubeta level trolling and stupidity.
While I do admit that Kobe is better than lebron, i agree with this.

Stalkers whole life is based off Kobe and his worst fear is lebron surpassing him. That's why he makes these threads that he knows aren't true. Insecurity and stupidity

[Spurs m8]

OP is a *******.

You've' literally posted this exact same thread at least two other times. Are you trying to convince other people or yourself? The Warriors just set the all time wins record and here you are yet again trying to prop up the Cavs in an attempt to diminish another man's worth.

You are beyond pathetic, even if your entire persona is real or an elaborate troll. It doesn't matter. You are useless and Kobe doesn't care about you, yet here you are, ready and willing to drink a glass of his children on a moments notice.

Stop posting and find something useful to do with your life. Just stop posting, you ******.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[alanLA92]

The disaster is that a straight razor hasn't found your wrists...

Damn :oldlol:

[NBASTATMAN]

Most stacked roster in the league.

Highest payroll by far in the league.

Colluded super team playing in a historically weak conference.

If they fail to win the title, it'll be the biggest choke job in NBA history.

Bran will never enter the top 10 if they lose.


SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE WARRIORS NOT WINNING THE TITLE WILL BE OK... YOU KNOW WHAT THE CHINESE CALL PEOPLE LIKE YOU


ONEDUMBFcuk:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

No they don't. Are you seriously going to argue that Love is a good defender? :oldlol:

He literally does NOTHING well on defense. Poor lateral movement, poor range, poor instincts, average at best post defense, poor effort, and zero rim protection.

Lebron is at worst an above average defender and he's BY FAR the best defender among the big 3. Calling him a garbage defender is absurd. There's not a single NBA coach who would agree with you. He is still capable of playing elite defense.

What about Irving? I suppose your going to call him a good defender too?

You're reaching Dubeta level trolling and stupidity.

8th in the league in defensive rebounding percentage, best defensive rating on the Cavs, (Better than Bran) 16th in the NBA in defensive win shares.

Keep wiggling.

[NBASTATMAN]

8th in the league in defensive rebounding percentage, best defensive rating on the Cavs, (Better than Bran) 16th in the NBA in defensive win shares.

Keep wiggling.


Lebron has a better DWS though.. So there about even... Truth is Lebron is lazy on defense...

[GrapeApe]

8th in the league in defensive rebounding percentage, best defensive rating on the Cavs, (Better than Bran) 16th in the NBA in defensive win shares.

Keep wiggling.

I never said he wasn't a good rebounder. That's different than being a good defender, even though rebounding is considered a defensive stat.

The fact that you're actually trying to portray Kevin Love as a good defender is cringeworthy. You also keep ignoring Irving's defense, obviously because you can't figure out a way to spin it as being good.

Love and Irving are bad defenders. Nobody (except you) even disputes this, not even legit Cavs fans. Love and Irving being superstars is also exclusive to you.

[34-24 Footwork]

Posters on ISH and REALGM have already set the stage for Lebron losing in the playoffs...whether it be in the finals or before the finals.

But real shit, this time ESPN isn't playing to that tune this year. He literally is out of excuses. He picked his coach and his teammates.

This board will explode when he loses this time. No amount of pre-damage control in April will help.

It's over.

[Meticode]

LeBron isn't expected to win this year. Golden State just had the best regular season ever in NBA history and the previous 4 times in NBA history that hard the next best records in regular season history all won the NBA Finals that year. The Cavs have history against them completely.

But we're getting WAY ahead of ourselves. We have to play the Pistons Sunday first and deal with that.

[Micku]

Ain't no shame. They ain't the favorites. Warriors will go down as one of the GOAT teams if they win it all.

But if the Cavs do beat the Warriors, then that's historic. With that said tho, we'll see in the playoffs.

[knicksman]

Stalker ethering these gullibe bran stans

[34-24 Footwork]

What happens if Lebron and the Cavs lose before the finals? What excuse you guys got lined up?


"The Warriors are a historic team" isn't gonna make sense.

[tpols]

What happens if Lebron and the Cavs lose before the finals? What excuse you guys got lined up?


"The Warriors are a historic team" isn't gonna make sense.

then they will say bran is not 2/7.

but if they lose to the heat, I am counting as 2/7.

[bobopenguin]

if lebron does not make final this year, he is not worthy of discussion anymore.
he will be remembered as kobe-wannabe chaser.

[GrapeApe]

And btw, if my Heat take down the Cavs, OP better acknowledge it as one of the greatest playoff series wins in NBA history. Maybe THE greatest. You know, being that the Cavs are a historically stacked super-team who are heavy title favorites.

:cheers:

[stalkerforlife]

And btw, if my Heat take down the Cavs, OP better acknowledge it as one of the greatest playoff series wins in NBA history. Maybe THE greatest. You know, being that the Cavs are a historically stacked super-team who are heavy title favorites.

:cheers:

You know just as I do that there is no team in the east that can take down that super team.

The colluding ruined the integrity of competition by eliminating it.

[Bankaii]

then they will say bran is not 2/7.

but if they lose to the heat, I am counting as 2/7.
The ECF are the real Finals.
So if the Cavs beat the Heat Lebron will have 3 rings and 3 FMVPs regardless of what happens in the Finals.
See how stupid everything sounds when you use Kobetard logic.

[masonanddixon]

The 10th-11th best player on Cleveland would be better than the 2nd best player on Dallas.

[Bankaii]

You know just as I do that there is no team in the east that can take down that super team.

The colluding ruined the integrity of competition by eliminating it.
Wade either missed the playoffs or got bounced in the 1st round every year after '06.
Bosh missed the playoffs in '09 and '10.
Irving never make the playoffs before Lebron.
Love never made the playoffs before Lebron.

So what competition did he destroy again? The same competition that wasn't even in the postseason?
Fkn clown:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Wade either missed the playoffs or got bounced in the 1st round every year after '06.
Bosh missed the playoffs in '09 and '10.
Irving never make the playoffs before Lebron.
Love never made the playoffs before Lebron.

So what competition did he destroy again? The same competition that wasn't even in the postseason?
Fkn clown:roll:

budaddii...

[bobopenguin]

The 10th-11th best player on Cleveland would be better than the 2nd best player on Dallas.

so u are saying one legged Richard Jefferson or Mo William is better than Dwill?
stop sucking d*cks pls.

[tpols]

The ECF are the real Finals.
So if the Cavs beat the Heat Lebron will have 3 rings and 3 FMVPs regardless of what happens in the Finals.
See how stupid everything sounds when you use Kobetard logic.


no, if they beat the heat they still have to beat SAS or GS, else its still 2/7.

[Bankaii]

budaddii...
Figured you have no response.
I know your broke ass doesn't have much, so take this as a gift. L


no, if they beat the heat they still have to beat SAS or GS, else its still 2/7.
#kobetardlogic

[34-24 Footwork]

Think about this...

Brans BIGGEST STANS are expecting him to lose :lol :lol

Alternate reality, I swear.

[stalkerforlife]

Think about this...

Brans BIGGEST STANS are expecting him to lose :lol :lol

Alternate reality, I swear.

Damage control.

[GrapeApe]

You know just as I do that there is no team in the east that can take down that super team.

The colluding ruined the integrity of competition by eliminating it.

The Heat smoked that super team twice this season. Just sayin.

I'm not saying the Heat would win the series, but if it happens I guess we can both agree that it would be legendary stuff. If Wade has a good series it might even bump him above Kobe all-time. The greatest upset in NBA history would carry a lot of weight.

[stalkerforlife]

The Heat smoked that super team twice this season. Just sayin.

I'm not saying the Heat would win the series, but if it happens I guess we can both agree that it would be legendary stuff. If Wade has a good series it might even bump him above Kobe all-time. The greatest upset in NBA history would carry a lot of weight.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/2701d4a4666cea8950054b47cc2ec6b3/tumblr_inline_ntszhbJGAV1rfnyh4_500.gif

[Eye Test]

LeKING looks in prime form to STOMP on every playoff team right now, genuinely feel bad for the teams hes gonna face... here hoping he doesnt pull one of his trademark houdinis during the finals :rockon:

[Gileraracer]

Most stacked roster in the league.

Highest payroll by far in the league.

Colluded super team playing in a historically weak conference.

If they fail to win the title, it'll be the biggest choke job in NBA history.

Bran will never enter the top 10 if they lose.

I absolutely agree with you OP

[stalkerforlife]

I absolutely agree with you OP

You're a great poster.

Very informed.

[ShawkFactory]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK9wLWF8TXo

How's that for an eye test?
Not sure what that has to do with Kevin Love being a good defender

[KG215]

Most stacked roster in the league.
Wrong. That'd the be Warriors.


Highest payroll by far in the league.
True, but it doesn't matter.


Colluded super team playing in a historically weak conference.
The East was deeper than the West this year. They had 10 teams finish with a .500 or better record, two teams won 55+ games, and four other teams won 48 games. How, exactly, is the East "historically weak" this year?


If they fail to win the title, it'll be the biggest choke job in NBA history.
No, it wouldn't. The Warriors just set the single season record for most wins in a season and the Spurs went 67-15 and would've won a few more games if they hadn't punted a few games the last couple of months of the season to rest everyone.


Bran will never enter the top 10 if they lose.
Not winning a championship this year would not be an indictment on LeBron's career. This season features arguably the greatest team ever and one of the greatest defensive teams ever. Neither are LeBron's team.

[Nilocon165]

Wrong. That'd the be Warriors.


True, but it doesn't matter.


The East was deeper than the West this year. They had 10 teams finish with a .500 or better record, two teams won 55+ games, and four other teams won 48 games. How, exactly, is the East "historically weak" this year?


No, it wouldn't. The Warriors just set the single season record for most wins in a season and the Spurs went 67-15 and would've won a few more games if they hadn't punted a few games the last couple of months of the season to rest everyone.


Not winning a championship this year would not be an indictment on LeBron's career. This season features arguably the greatest team ever and one of the greatest defensive teams ever. Neither are LeBron's team.
These are all very valid points

[ShawkFactory]

Wrong. That'd the be Warriors.


True, but it doesn't matter.


The East was deeper than the West this year. They had 10 teams finish with a .500 or better record, two teams won 55+ games, and four other teams won 48 games. How, exactly, is the East "historically weak" this year?


No, it wouldn't. The Warriors just set the single season record for most wins in a season and the Spurs went 67-15 and would've won a few more games if they hadn't punted a few games the last couple of months of the season to rest everyone.


Not winning a championship this year would not be an indictment on LeBron's career. This season features arguably the greatest team ever and one of the greatest defensive teams ever. Neither are LeBron's team.
^ and I'm pretty sure this dude can't stand Lebron

[Goldrush25]

Most stacked roster in the league.

Highest payroll by far in the league.

Colluded super team playing in a historically weak conference.

If they fail to win the title, it'll be the biggest choke job in NBA history.

Bran will never enter the top 10 if they lose.

Are you still in fall of 2014? Because then this would make sense.

Warriors are the favorite. Cavs aren't. You can't choke if you aren't favored to win.

[2swift4u]

Of course the Cavs are not going to win the title. First of all the Warriors and Spurs are way better and secondly have you seen the Cavs plays this season? Didn't look good imo. Kyrie has never looked like last year's Kyrie, their defence is weak, their bench is shitty and Bron has slowed down a bit too.

[NumberSix]

To be fair, the team that just won the most games in NBA history should clearly be overwhelming expected to win the title.

[stalkerforlife]

Wrong. That'd the be Warriors.

Wrong. That'd be the Cavs and their three franchise level talents.


True, but it doesn't matter.


Convenient.

The East was deeper than the West this year. They had 10 teams finish with a .500 or better record, two teams won 55+ games, and four other teams won 48 games. How, exactly, is the East "historically weak" this year?

The east is a joke and only one team even has a remote possibility of going to the finals. Grow up.

No, it wouldn't. The Warriors just set the single season record for most wins in a season and the Spurs went 67-15 and would've won a few more games if they hadn't punted a few games the last couple of months of the season to rest everyone.

Exactly the point, numb nuts. While draining themselves to break a record, teams like the Cavs were resting players periodically and Bran was going to Miami for his HGH treatments.

Not winning a championship this year would not be an indictment on LeBron's career. This season features arguably the greatest team ever and one of the greatest defensive teams ever. Neither are LeBron's team.

Keep telling yourself that lie. :lol

[Dray n Klay]

Keep telling yourself that lie. :lol

Justin...

[stalkerforlife]

To be fair, the team that just won the most games in NBA history should clearly be overwhelming expected to win the title.

The Warriors drained themselves trying to break a meaningless record.

The Cavs periodically rested their players throughout the season and Bran went to Miami for his HGH treatments.

There is no way in hell an intelligent basketball fan doesn't think the Cavs and their three franchise level talents are not the favorites.

[stalkerforlife]

Justin...

Can I help you today, dubeta?

[Im Still Ballin]

Keep telling yourself that lie. :lol
Just got banned on that Kings forum bro

I played one of the moderators

Someone made a "Let's Keep Demarcus thread"

I made a "Let's trade Demarcus thread'

He merged it into the Let's keep demarcus thread

Played him so good

Got him to admit the forum is biased because it is privately fan-owned

Bro

[stalkerforlife]

Are you still in fall of 2014? Because then this would make sense.

Warriors are the favorite. Cavs aren't. You can't choke if you aren't favored to win.

Not a single person in their unbiased mind actually believes the Cavs and their three franchise level talents/highest payroll in the league aren't the favorites.

Cut the shit.

The Warriors went all out for a regular season accomplishment because they knew beating that healthy super team was unlikely.

[kamil]

It was a disaster when the 2010 collusion happened only to be followed by one of the worst finals performances ever by a player that's supposedly the face of the league.

LeBron* is no stranger to losing.

[Dray n Klay]

Can I help you today, dubeta?

Dubeta controls your soul :roll:


I'm a brand new poster. Sorry to disappoint you, Justin Lee

[HurricaneKid]

kevin love wouldve led the twolves to a playoff spot in most times and conferences. the team won 48 games ffs. They wouldve been 4 / 5 seed in todays east and 3 / 4 seed in 2014 east..

you needed 49 wins to make the playoffs in the 2014 west. It was beyond stacked.

When the **** did this happen?

From his rookie year until he joined team LeBron here are the TWolves win totals:

24
15
17
26
31
40

KLove was never on a .500 team until he grabbed LeBron's coattails.

[stalkerforlife]

Just got banned on that Kings forum bro

I played one of the moderators

Someone made a "Let's Keep Demarcus thread"

I made a "Let's trade Demarcus thread'

He merged it into the Let's keep demarcus thread

Played him so good

Got him to admit the forum is biased because it is privately fan-owned

Bro

That is the second worst forum after CuckGM...maybe just as bad.

Just a horribly biased site that doesn't allow contrarians. Either you sell your soul to post there or you're banned.

Good job, bro.

[stalkerforlife]

When the **** did this happen?

From his rookie year until he joined team LeBron here are the TWolves win totals:

24
15
17
26
31
40

KLove was never on a .500 team until he grabbed LeBron's coattails.

We already established this, numb nuts. Stop acting like you brought something new to the thread. Good job wasting your time, though.

And can you please tell me about the juggernauts Love had for teammates?

[stalkerforlife]

Dubeta controls your soul :roll:


I'm a brand new poster. Sorry to disappoint you, Justin Lee

:lol

[Heatles201]

love me some ISH, but this shit just gets ridiculous

[GrapeApe]

3 franchise level players. :oldlol:

I don't care how bad you're teammates are or what conference you're in, if you have NOT ONCE led a team to the playoffs, you're not a franchise player.

Just stop the charade already.

[tpols]

When the **** did this happen?

From his rookie year until he joined team LeBron here are the TWolves win totals:

24
15
17
26
31
40

KLove was never on a .500 team until he grabbed LeBron's coattails.

Love's team would've made the playoffs in 2014 east .. despite him being surrounded by poor talent in one of the more loaded conferences of all time. Given more help and a lesser conference, Love would be leading a perennial mediocre playoff team. Not bad for your third option.

[Legends66NBA7]

Love's team would've made the playoffs in 2014 east .. despite him being surrounded by poor talent in one of the more loaded conferences of all time. Given more help and a lesser conference, Love would be leading a perennial mediocre playoff team. Not bad for your third option.

But that's not exactly going anywhere. It would be like when Bosh was featured as the main guy on the Raptors. A team that has a ceiling of just making the playoffs and doing nothing else of sort.

[Legends66NBA7]

love me some ISH, but this shit just gets ridiculous

Indeed.

This forum is at the lowest of the lows now. Not worth the time of checking in as often. Even the playoff threads aren't all ready and this supposed to be the best time of the season.

[tpols]

But that's not exactly going anywhere. It would be like when Bosh was featured as the main guy on the Raptors. A team that has a ceiling of just making the playoffs and doing nothing else of sort.

i agree, he is third option though. I dont think lamar odom or horace grant could do what Love did leading that minny team to 40 wins in that conference with that type of help. Yea he doesnt fit with bron because hes been largely stripped of his post creation, and the two just seem to be on a mental disconnect, but hes still a great player to have as your third best.

[GrapeApe]

Love's team would've made the playoffs in 2014 east .. despite him being surrounded by poor talent in one of the more loaded conferences of all time. Given more help and a lesser conference, Love would be leading a perennial mediocre playoff team. Not bad for your third option.

See, this is the problem. Being productive as a 1st option on a meiocre team does not necessarily make someone a good 3rd option. Some players just don't have the ability to adapt and thrive in a different role. Before joing the Cavs, Love had been "the man" for his entire basketball career. Irving is the same. All his life he's been a primary ball handler and scorer.

This is why you can't just throw talent together and assume it will amount to a cohesive team. Look at the Heat. They struggled to adapt to their roles. Even when they were winning titles they were always a flawed team. They made it work partly because Lebron and Wade are all time greats, but also because Wade and Bosh were able to successfully transition into a different role. I don't know if Irving and Love have that kind of adaptability.

[SouBeachTalents]

i agree, he is third option though. I dont think lamar odom or horace grant could do what Love did leading that minny team to 40 wins in that conference with that type of help. Yea he doesnt fit with bron because hes been largely stripped of his post creation, and the two just seem to be on a mental disconnect, but hes still a great player to have as your third best.

40 wins, maybe not, but between 15-31, which was the number of wins he had every other season in Minnesota wouldn't be that difficult to achieve

[KG215]

Keep telling yourself that lie. :lol
What lie? Everything I posted is either a fact, or opinion heavily rooted in fact, i.e. the Warriors being the most stacked team in the NBA because they set a f***ing NBA record with 73 wins, or the 67-win Spurs being arguably the best or one of the best defensive teams in NBA history based on most defensive metrics.

[Smoke117]

OP is a *******.

You've' literally posted this exact same thread at least two other times. Are you trying to convince other people or yourself? The Warriors just set the all time wins record and here you are yet again trying to prop up the Cavs in an attempt to diminish another man's worth.

You are beyond pathetic, even if your entire persona is real or an elaborate troll. It doesn't matter. You are useless and Kobe doesn't care about you, yet here you are, ready and willing to drink a glass of his children on a moments notice.

Stop posting and find something useful to do with your life. Just stop posting, you ******.

He's on welfare with no job and lives on ish.

[tpols]

See, this is the problem. Being productive as a 1st option on a meiocre team does not necessarily make someone a good 3rd option. Some players just don't have the ability to adapt and thrive in a different role. Before joing the Cavs, Love had been "the man" for his entire basketball career. Irving is the same. All his life he's been a primary ball handler and scorer.

This is why you can't just throw talent together and assume it will amount to a cohesive team. Look at the Heat. They struggled to adapt to their roles. Even when they were winning titles they were always a flawed team. They made it work partly because Lebron and Wade are all time greats, but also because Wade and Bosh were able to successfully transition into a different role. I don't know if Irving and Love have that kind of adaptability.


tell all this to lebron lol.. im not the one who trys to form quick fix super teams as opposed to organically grown teams

[Dray n Klay]

tell all this to lebron lol.. im not the one who trys to form quick fix super teams as opposed to organically grown teams


LOL, so sit back and trust the Cavs management? :roll: :roll:

[FreezingTsmoove]

I just dont understand how the 3rd greatest baller of all time is not a favorite to win the chip :biggums:

Highest payroll for a team in the league, hand picked his 2nd and 3rd option, and yet the Cavs are not the favorite to win :biggums:

I cant even imagine for a second a Kareem or Jordan at age 31 leading a team to the playoffs and not being the favorite

It will be a huge upset if anyone beats the Cavs. This is the 3rd best player of all time on the highest paid team in the league!!

No excuses !!

[stalkerforlife]

What lie? Everything I posted is either a fact, or opinion heavily rooted in fact, i.e. the Warriors being the most stacked team in the NBA because they set a f***ing NBA record with 73 wins, or the 67-win Spurs being arguably the best or one of the best defensive teams in NBA history based on most defensive metrics.

The Cavs cruised and routinely rested players or they were out with injuries.

The Warriors know for a fact it'll take a miracle to beat a team as cowardly stacked as the Cavs, so they focused ALL of their energy on breaking a regular season record.

The Warriors are SPENT and everyone could see it at the end of the season.

[AirBonner]

The disaster is that a straight razor hasn't found your wrists...
Savage :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Op is a known autistic virgin yet people still like to entertain his erratic thought processes.

[stalkerforlife]

I just dont understand how the 3rd greatest baller of all time is not a favorite to win the chip :biggums:

Highest payroll for a team in the league, hand picked his 2nd and 3rd option, and yet the Cavs are not the favorite to win :biggums:

I cant even imagine for a second a Kareem or Jordan at age 31 leading a team to the playoffs and not being the favorite

It will be a huge upset if anyone beats the Cavs. This is the 3rd best player of all time on the highest paid team in the league!!

No excuses !!

:lol

These Branvestites live on excuses. That's all they have.

[CP3PO]

:lol

Irving was injured and Love has been minimized by Bran so that Bran's legacy can look better. Bran did the same thing in the 2011 finals and ended up losing because Wade was going to be the finals MVP.

The Cavs have THREE FRANCHISE players. Forget all-stars.
This. Wolves built around Love for years until they knew they were losing him. Cavs started building around Irving as their star before LeBron came back.

[GrapeApe]

The Cavs cruised and routinely rested players or they were out with injuries.

The Warriors know for a fact it'll take a miracle to beat a team as cowardly stacked as the Cavs, so they focused ALL of their energy on breaking a regular season record.

The Warriors are SPENT and everyone could see it at the end of the season.

Spent? Like when they won their final 4 games to break the record, 2 of which were against the Spurs?

Everyone on earth, except you, has the Warriors as heavy title favorites. I guess I shouldn't say "except you" because you don't really believe half of what you say. If the Cavs are indeed the favorites, surely vegas, the analytics, and the experts should all be favoring them, right? Why isn't that the case? Hmmm.....

[ShawkFactory]

Spent? Like when they won their final 4 games to break the record, 2 of which were against the Spurs?

Everyone on earth, except you, has the Warriors as heavy title favorites. I guess I shouldn't say "except you" because you don't really believe half of what you say. If the Cavs are indeed the favorites, surely vegas, the analytics, and the experts should all be favoring them, right? Why isn't that the case? Hmmm.....
He does too bro. He's getting his dubeta-level troll on

[GrapeApe]

He does too bro. He's getting his dubeta-level troll on

Yeah, that's why I commented about him not believing what he says. I've never seen someone go to such great lengths to criticize or discredit a player. I don't even think Lebron stans were this bad with Wade and Bosh. Stalker has raised the bar.

[Fudge]

Warriors have the most stacked team of all-time.

They're the favorites every year as long they're together.

LeBron and Durant have the least talented supporting casts out of all the contenders. Nobody can even deny that.

[ShawkFactory]

Yeah, that's why I commented about him not believing what he says. I've never seen someone go to such great lengths to criticize or discredit a player. I don't even think Lebron stans were this bad with Wade and Bosh. Stalker has raised the bar.
They were/are close to as bad with Kobe

[KG215]

The Warriors know for a fact it'll take a miracle to beat a team as cowardly stacked as the Cavs, so they focused ALL of their energy on breaking a regular season record.
Ahhh, excellent point. Never thought of it that way.


The Warriors are SPENT and everyone could see it at the end of the season.
Didn't they beat the Spurs, who were pretty much at full-strength, twice in the last week or two of the season? And one of those wins was a blowout win in Golden State. If anything, following up the home losses to the Celtics and T-Wolves then crushing the Spurs once and beating them another time right after that to end the season should really just tell you that, when locked in and focus, there's not another team in the NBA on their level.


Griff either gets banned or leave (I don't know which) and we get you as his replacement. Awesome.

[stalkerforlife]

Spent? Like when they won their final 4 games to break the record, 2 of which were against the Spurs?

Everyone on earth, except you

That's a damn lie.

has the Warriors as heavy title favorites. I guess I shouldn't say "except you" because

you don't really believe half of what you say.

That's a damn lie. I'm more honest than you could ever dream of being.

If the Cavs are indeed the favorites, surely vegas, the analytics, and the experts should all be favoring them, right? Why isn't that the case? Hmmm.....

Why the hell would I care about what Vegas or "experts" say? :wtf: I'm my own man. Why the hell should any of us think at all? Just tune into the "experts" and have them form our opinions. You are such a sheep.

[stalkerforlife]

Yeah, that's why I commented about him not believing what he says. I've never seen someone go to such great lengths to criticize or discredit a player. I don't even think Lebron stans were this bad with Wade and Bosh. Stalker has raised the bar.

I HAVE to discredit Bran because people like YOU and networks like ESPN have inflated his legacy and made him into something he CLEARLY isn't.

Someone has to be honest...and I have ZERO problem being that guy. You could never fathom being as honest as I am in every single aspect of my life, sheep.

[stalkerforlife]

Ahhh, excellent point. Never thought of it that way.


Didn't they beat the Spurs, who were pretty much at full-strength, twice in the last week or two of the season? And one of those wins was a blowout win in Golden State. If anything, following up the home losses to the Celtics and T-Wolves then crushing the Spurs once and beating them another time right after that to end the season should really just tell you that, when locked in and focus, there's not another team in the NBA on their level.


Griff either gets banned or leave (I don't know which) and we get you as his replacement. Awesome.

The Cavs get to REST during virtually the ENTIRE east playoffs. There is ZERO parity in that conference because of the COWARDLY colluding. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. Bran has stacked the deck so highly in his favor that the east playoffs become a time for his team to literally COAST while the west beats the living hell out of each other.

Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, and OKC are all EASILY better than any team other than the Cavs...and they get to beat the shit out of each other while the cowardly Cavs get to wait on them.

[Dray n Klay]

The only disaster is the fact that your kids have to grow up looking up to you as a father

[stalkerforlife]

The only disaster is the fact that your kids have to grow up looking up to you as a father

Blatant personal attacks involving my children clearly prove that i'm right and you know it.

[Smoke117]

Blatant personal attacks involving my children clearly prove that i'm right and you know it.

But...is what he said the truth? Absolutely. I actually pity those kids...they are growing to grow up to be useless like you AND fat like your whale of a gf.

[Dray n Klay]

Blatant personal attacks involving my children clearly prove that i'm right and you know it.


About what? What did you say that was right?


You never passed high school, your IQ is less than that of flies hovering around shit.



It's not arguing with you, everyone in this thread is being patient and accommodating to your mental disabilities. We're purposely posting back just to make it seem like your halfway competent.


You live in an imaginary world where your opinion is valid and insightful, but in reality your mental abilities match that of a 3rd grader, while your face matches that of a Holocaust victim

[stalkerforlife]

But...is what he said the truth? Absolutely. I actually pity those kids...they are growing to grow up to be useless like you AND fat like your whale of a gf.

I win.

Damage control won't work with people like me that have a very high basketball IQ.

[stalkerforlife]

About what? What did you say that was right?


You never passed high school, your IQ is less than that of flies hovering around shit.



It's not arguing with you, everyone in this thread is being patient and accommodating to your mental disabilities. We're purposely posting back just to make it seem like your halfway competent.


You live in an imaginary world where your opinion is valid and insightful, but in reality your mental abilities match that of a 3rd grader, while your face matches that of a Holocaust victim

Resorting to personal insults only validates my position.

Don't be so blatant about your frustration concerning this particular topic.

[Cocaine80s]

I win.

Damage control won't work with people like me that have a very high basketball IQ.
You can take the W on ish but your whole life is a massive L

[stalkerforlife]

You can take the W on ish but your whole life is a massive L

At least you admit i'm right. :cheers:

[TheImmortal]

Yup.. was about to make this thread. Cavaliers are the by far favorites to win the Leastern Conference.. they have Kyrie, Love and LeBron James.. Nobody can match up with them. LeBron took a weaker Cavaliers team to the Finals... so not making it this year would be proof that he's scared of losing 3 finals in a row/ playing the Warriors or Spurs in the finals. He must make it to the finals and then win it all if he wants to be a top 10 GOAT.

Kobe fans already have enough ammo on Bran.. this year will put the comparisons to bed (if he doesn't pull through).

[ShawkFactory]

Well this turned weird quickly

[red1]

:facepalm

[Lebron23]

OP forget to take his medication.

[knicksman]

Well. This is the reason why blatt was fired. So bran can have another excuse. The guy is just born loser. Without wade, he will never win again

[knicksman]

About what? What did you say that was right?


You never passed high school, your IQ is less than that of flies hovering around shit.



It's not arguing with you, everyone in this thread is being patient and accommodating to your mental disabilities. We're purposely posting back just to make it seem like your halfway competent.


You live in an imaginary world where your opinion is valid and insightful, but in reality your mental abilities match that of a 3rd grader, while your face matches that of a Holocaust victim

Cringe. Trying hard. Lol