Lebron James in Elimination Games

[Lebron23]

Game 4 vs Pacers 2012 (away game, prospect of going down 3-1)
Game 6 vs Celtics 2012 (away elimination game)
Game 7 vs Celtics 2012 (game 7)
Game 7 vs Pacers 2013 (game 7)
Game 4 vs Spurs 2013 (could go down 3-1 with Spurs closing out series at home)

Taking the averages of those games, LeBron has a statline of:

33.0 points, 11.8 rebounds, 5.3 assists on 54% FG and 38% 3PT

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LeBron = Mr. Pressure.

[G0ATbe]

1.5*/7.

[Beastmode88]

nit picking games eh :coleman:

[Dray n Klay]

1.5*/7.


Kobe's girth/ brons girth?? :wtf:

[Lebron23]

1.5*/7.


same numbers of Finals MVP as the washed up guy in your avatar.

[Mr Feeny]

Game 4 vs Pacers 2012 (away game, prospect of going down 3-1)
Game 6 vs Celtics 2012 (away elimination game)
Game 7 vs Celtics 2012 (game 7)
Game 7 vs Pacers 2013 (game 7)
Game 2 vs Spurs 2013 (could lose both games at home)
Game 4 vs Spurs 2013 (could go down 3-1 with Spurs closing out series at home)

Taking the averages of those games, LeBron has a statline of:

33.0 points, 11.8 rebounds, 5.3 assists on 54% FG and 38% 3PT

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LeBron = Mr. Pressure.

Why have we selected these specifically though?
What are his overall numbers in elimination games?
I think he has the highest ppg average in elimination game history

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

what about against the magic, the Spurs in 2007, in 2014, against gsw in 2015, against the Celtics................


Agenda.....

[Lebron23]

Why have we selected these specifically though?
What are his overall numbers in elimination games?
I think he has the highest ppg average in elimination game history


Elimination Games when his team won the games. But last year vs. the Warriors 32 points, 18 rebounds, 9 assists vs. the Warriors in game 6.

[Lebron23]

what about against the magic, the Spurs in 2007, in 2014, against gsw in 2015, against the Celtics................


Agenda.....

You can check his stats, and LeBron played great against the Magic in 2009, against the Celtics in 2008 and 2009, and against the Warriors in 2015.

[KobesFinger]

How the hell is a game 2 an elimination game?

[Lebron23]

How the hell is a game 2 an elimination game?


Should have been pressure games.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Elimination Games when his team won the games. But last year vs. the Warriors 32 points, 18 rebounds, 9 assists vs. the Warriors in game 6.
What percentages?

What about 2014 VS Spurs? How did he do game 4 against Spurs in 07? Game 7 VS Detroit? Game 6 VS Boston in 08? Game 6 VS Orlando? Boston in 2010? Mavs in 11?

how about turnovers too..........

[Lebron23]

What percentages?

What about 2014 VS Spurs? How did he do game 4 against Spurs in 07? Game 7 VS Detroit? Game 6 VS Boston in 08? Game 6 VS Orlando? Boston in 2010? Mavs in 11?

how about turnovers too..........


Better than Chokebe Bryant.

[Lebronxrings]

LeCloser.

[Eye Test]

LeSealthedeal

[STATUTORY]

then how is he 2 for 7?

[Lebron23]

then how is he 2 for 7?


You need to go back to elementary, and learn how to count.

[fiddy]

LeBron = Mr. Pressure.
:wtf: :wtf: :eek: :roll: :roll:

[Gileraracer]

Lebron in finals games: 39% FG / 21% 3Pt / 71% FT

[Lebron23]

Lebron in finals games: 39% FG / 21% 3Pt / 71% FT


He was like the only decent scoring option of the Cavaliers in the NBA Finals. LeBron in 2015 > Kobe in the 2000, 2004, and 2008 NBA Finals.

[Mr Feeny]

Lebron in finals games: 39% FG / 21% 3Pt / 71% FT

He isn't.
Kobe is a career 39%fg shooter in elimination games
Lebron is at 44% if I'm not mistaken.

While averaging 10 more ppg in elimination games than Kobe.

[Lebron23]

He isn't.
Kobe is a career 39%fg shooter in elimination games
Lebron is at 44% if I'm not mistaken.

While averaging 10 more ppg in elimination games than Kobe.


:applause: :applause: :applause:

Le3rd > 12thbe

[Gileraracer]

Lebron let his team down twice to collude with some of the best players in the league and still lost 4 out of 6 times. He had some epic choke jobs (for example 2011, when he god outscored by Jason fcking Terry or 2015, when he shot 39% on 33FGA) to ruin his own legacy.

[Mr Feeny]

Lebron let his team down twice to collude with some of the best players in the league and still lost 4 out of 6 times. He had some epic choke jobs (for example 2011, when he god outscored by Jason fcking Terry or 2015, when he shot 39% on 33FGA) to ruin his own legacy.

You've already been exposed making up numbers.
Why are you back?

Leave the proper basketball talk to us.

[JebronLames]

Le4thquarter

[Magic 32]

http://s13.postimg.org/tczz5dh5j/asdasd.jpg

Inflates everything. Proves nothing. Wins nothing.

http://magoosh.com/gmat/files/2012/06/fractions_img1.png

[Kiddlovesnets]

Kobe in elimination games since becoming team's No.1 option:
2003: LAL 82-110 SAS
2004: LAL 87-100 DET
2006: LAL 90-121 PHO
2007: LAL 110-119 PHO
2008: LAL 92-131 BOS
2011: LAL 86-122 DAL
2012: LAL 90-106 OKC
2013: LAL 82-103 SAS

[Lebron23]

Kobe in elimination games since becoming team's No.1 option:
2003: LAL 82-110 SAS
2004: LAL 87-100 DET
2006: LAL 90-121 PHO
2007: LAL 110-119 PHO
2008: LAL 92-131 BOS
2011: LAL 86-122 DAL
2012: LAL 90-106 OKC
2013: LAL 82-103 SAS

Chokebe

[AintNoSunshine]

You watch basketball for so many year yet you don't know what elimination games are...

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe in elimination games since becoming team's No.1 option:
2003: LAL 82-110 SAS
2004: LAL 87-100 DET
2006: LAL 90-121 PHO
2007: LAL 110-119 PHO
2008: LAL 92-131 BOS
2011: LAL 86-122 DAL
2012: LAL 90-106 OKC
2013: LAL 82-103 SAS

Some really abysmal loses in there.
The games against the Suns (06), Celtics (08) and Dallas (2011) were particularly egregious. It was as if he gave up completely. No energy or passion.

[LAZERUSS]

Lebron, MJ, and Wilt are the top-3 ppg players in NBA post-season history, in must-win games.

Those who claim that Lebron and Wilt "choked" in their post-seasons are complete idiots.

[Mr Feeny]

Lebron, MJ, and Wilt are the top-3 ppg players in NBA post-season history, in must-win games.

Those who claim that Lebron and Wilt "choked" in their post-seasons are complete idiots.

Why put Wilt in the same sentence as lebron.
Lebron is miles better. There's a reason lebron is a 28 ppg scorer in the playoffs while Wilt is at a pathetic 22 ppg.
And a 26 ppg in finals when Wilt is an even more pathetic 18%.

[LAZERUSS]

Why put Wilt in the same sentence as lebron.
Lebron is miles better. There's a reason lebron is a 28 ppg scorer in the playoffs while Wilt is at a pathetic 22 ppg.
And a 26 ppg in finals when Wilt is an even more pathetic 18%.

And there was a reason a "scoring" Chamberlain averaged 33 ppg in his post-season career, including four 50+ point games, three of which came in "must win" games. Not to mention that he was a FAR greater defensive force and rebounder. Included were post-seasons of 33 ppg, 35 ppg, 35 ppg, and 37 ppg. And post-season series of 37 ppg, 37 ppg, 39 ppg, and 39 ppg.

And a scoring Wilt, also posted a 29-28 .517 FG% (in a post-season NBA that shot .420 overall BTW), in his one Finals...and against the GOAT defensive center, and greatest dynasty in NBA history. Of course, he had multiple 30+ series against that same player and team in the post-season, as well...including a seven game series of 30-31 and on a .555 FG% (in a post-season that shot .429 overall.)

GOAT.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Mr Feeny]

And there was a reason a "scoring" Chamberlain averaged 33 ppg in his post-season career, including four 50+ point games, three of which came in "must win" games. Not to mention that he was a FAR greater defensive force and rebounder.

And a scoring Wilt, also posted a 29-28 .517 FG% (in a post-season NBA that shot .420 overall BTW), in his one Finals...and against the GOAT defensive center, and greatest dynasty in NBA history. Of course, he had multiple 30+ series against that same player and team in the post-season, as well...including a seven game series of 30-31 and on a .555 FG% (in a post-season that shot .429 overall.)

GOAT.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Yawn.

And yet he still only has 22 ppg in playoffs and 18 ppg in finals.
Lebron dwarfs him on the biggest stage.

Don't insult lebron by putting the choker in the same sentence with him.

[LAZERUSS]

Yawn.

And yet he still only has 22 ppg in playoffs and 18 ppg in finals.
Lebron dwarfs him on the biggest stage.

Don't insult lebron by putting the choker in the same sentence with him.


Chamberlain won a FMVP in a Finals in which he scored 19 ppg, and would have been a unanimous FMVP, had the award existed, in a Finals in which he averaged 18 ppg. How come?

[ballinhun8]

Lmfao OP and his bran stans are such idiots.




Elimination games = high pressure games now......this dumb sh*t put down two game 4s when the series were still 2-1. Last I checked that wasn't classified as an elimination game.

[Mr Feeny]

Chamberlain won a FMVP in a Finals in which he scored 19 ppg, and would have been a unanimous FMVP, had the award existed, in a Finals in which he averaged 18 ppg. How come?And yet he still only averaged 18 ppg for his career while lebron was 8 points better at 26 ppg :lebronamazed:

Don't put the choker in the same sentence as a top 3 player in LeTHICK:applause:

[LAZERUSS]

Lmfao OP and his bran stans are such idiots.




Elimination games = high pressure games now......this dumb sh*t put down two game 4s when the series were still 2-1. Last I checked that wasn't classified as an elimination game.

Last time I checked, in ACTUAL "must win" playoff games...

Lebron 31.8 ppg, Jordan 31.3 ppg, and Wilt 31.1 ppg.

BTW, Chamberlain played in 23 absolute "must win" playoff games, but in his "must win" and "series clinching games", he played in 37 (24-13 W-L), and averaged 29.9 ppg, 26.1 rpg, 4.2 apg, and on a .546 FG%.

[ISHGoat]

Kobe in elimination games since becoming team's No.1 option:
2003: LAL 82-110 SAS
2004: LAL 87-100 DET
2006: LAL 90-121 PHO
2007: LAL 110-119 PHO
2008: LAL 92-131 BOS
2011: LAL 86-122 DAL
2012: LAL 90-106 OKC
2013: LAL 82-103 SAS

Dont forget 6/24 game 7. He was the team's first option on offense but overall Pau Gasol was the best player.

[Mr Feeny]

Last time I checked, in ACTUAL "must win" playoff games...

Lebron 31.8 ppg, Jordan 31.3 ppg, and Wilt 31.1 ppg.

BTW, Chamberlain played in 23 absolute "must win" playoff games, but in his "must win" and "series clinching games", he played in 37 (24-13 W-L), and averaged 29.9 ppg, 26.1 rpg, 4.2 apg, and on a .546 FG%.

Wilt is a choker. Don't put him in the same sentence as LeTHICK.

[LAZERUSS]

Wilt is a choker. Don't put him in the same sentence as LeTHICK.

Chamberlain much more dominant than 3" Lebron.

[Cali Syndicate]

Op needs to lookup the def I option of an elimination game.

[ballinhun8]

Last time I checked, in ACTUAL "must win" playoff games...

Lebron 31.8 ppg, Jordan 31.3 ppg, and Wilt 31.1 ppg.

BTW, Chamberlain played in 23 absolute "must win" playoff games, but in his "must win" and "series clinching games", he played in 37 (24-13 W-L), and averaged 29.9 ppg, 26.1 rpg, 4.2 apg, and on a .546 FG%.



Ok. But I was not talking about that.



I was talking about the OP putting up two games to prop his hero in the first post. Elimination means win or go home. Game 4s aren't that.

He didn't even use his own criteria.

[ballinhun8]

Wilt is a choker. Don't put him in the same sentence as LeTHICK.



There's a reason why people are used to seeing lebron walk off the court with the confetti and streamers being the colors of his opponent.

[LAZERUSS]

Ok. But I was not talking about that.



I was talking about the OP putting up two games to prop his hero in the first post. Elimination means win or go home. Game 4s aren't that.

He didn't even use his own criteria.

Agreed.

BTW, I would prefer using TOTAL elimination games in these arguments (adding must win games with series clinching games.)

[Mr Feeny]

There's a reason why people are used to seeing lebron walk off the court with the confetti and streamers being the colors of his opponent.

There's a reason lebron is considered a top 3 player and Wilt isn't! :lebronamazed:

26 ppg > 18 ppg:applause:

[LAZERUSS]

There's a reason lebron is considered a top 3 player and Wilt isn't! :lebronamazed:

26 ppg > 18 ppg:applause:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

BY WHOM?

The CLOWNS at ESPN????

Maybe you can share with all of us here just who was on that "panel of experts."

I'll help...

http://krod.com/espn-commits-costly-turnover-on-top-100-all-time-nbarank/


The self proclaimed ESPN expert panel consisted mostly of online editors and a few writers.

Read More: ESPN Commits Costly Turnover on Top 100 All Time #NBArank | http://krod.com/espn-commits-costly-turnover-on-top-100-all-time-nbarank/?trackback=tsmclip


Secondly, in 1999, ESPN's "panel of experts" came out with their 100 greatest athletes of the 20th Century. Interesting, though in the NBA department, that Wilt came in second behind MJ (no surprise, since MJ had just come off a title run and retired.) With Magic 3rd, Russell 4th, and Kareem 5th.

So, what has taken place in the last 17 years? Did Kareem come back and score some more points? Hell no.

What this means, of course, is several things. One,... a completely different panel.

Two, probably 95% of this "panel" never saw Wilt, nor Russell play, and likely did not see a peak KAJ play, either.

Three, they certainly couldn't go off of Wilt's footage, since only 2% of it exists on film, and very little of that in his prime. And clearly they did not RESEARCH the Wilt-era, either. Because, in the last 17 years we have even MORE evidience suggesting Wilt's overwhelming dominance.

4. Kareem played four years IN the Wilt-era, and never approached his records, nor his domination (including playing against the same centers in their primes), nor even his winning (Wilt went to three Finals in those four years, and KAJ to one.)

5. KAJ was a FAR bigger CHOKER in his post-season career, than Wilt was in his. Of course, having MAGIC for 10 seasons completely changed his image...from a underachieving choker, to a six time champ. Hell, he even got credit for a ring in a Finals in which he did everythiing he could to lose.


So, how did Kareem leap-frog Russell, Magic, and then Wilt...in the last 17 seasons? Simple...this "panel of experts" had no clue.


BTW, we already know two other things. One...ESPN has CATERED to Lebron in his career. And two, they have shown absolutely no knowledge of Chamberlain's career.

How about this remartkable example...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2011389-kevin-durant-within-striking-distance-of-michael-jordan-record

Not even ONE mention of the FACT that Chamberlain held the record, and by a HUGE margin (126 straight games.)

So we already know that ESPN doesn't have any knowledge of the game of basketball before MJ. NONE.

Lebron at #3???

A complete JOKE, and a slap in the face of not only Wilt, but Magic, Russell, Shaq, and Duncan.

[Mr Feeny]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

BY WHOM?

The CLOWNS at ESPN????

Maybe you can share with all of us here just who was on that "panel of experts."

I'll help...

http://krod.com/espn-commits-costly-turnover-on-top-100-all-time-nbarank/




Secondly, in 1999, ESPN's "panel of experts" came out with their 100 greatest athletes of the 20th Century. Interesting, though in the NBA department, that Wilt came in second behind MJ (no surprise, since MJ had just come off a title run and retired.) With Magic 3rd, Russell 4th, and Kareem 5th.

So, what has taken place in the last 17 years? Did Kareem comeback and score some more points? Hell no.

What this means, of course, is several things. One,... a completely different panel.

Two, probably 95% of this "panel" never saw Wilt, nor Russell play, and likely did not see a peak KAJ play, either.

Three, they certainly couldn't go off of Wilt's footage, since only 2% of it exists on film, and very little of that in his prime. And clearly they did not RESEARCH the Wilt-era, either. Because, in the last 17 years we have even MORE evidience suggesting Wilt's overwhelming dominance.

4. Kareem played four years IN the Wilt-era, and never approached his records, nor his domination (including playing against the same centers in their primes), nor even his winning (Wilt went to three Finals in those four years, and KAJ to one.)

5. KAJ was a FAR bigger CHOKER in his post-season career, than Wilt was in his. Of course, having MAGIC for 10 seasons completely changed his image...from a underachieving choker, to a six time champ. Hell, he even got credit for a ring in a Finals in which he did everythiing he could to lose.


So, how did Kareem leap-frog Russell, Magic, and then Wilt...in the last 17 seasons? Simple...this "panel of experts" had no clue.


BTW, we already know two other things. One...ESPN has CATERED to Lebron in his career. And two, they have shown absolutely no knowledge of Chamberlain's career.

How about this remartkable example...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2011389-kevin-durant-within-striking-distance-of-michael-jordan-record

Not even ONE mention of the FACT that Chamberlain held the record, and by a HUGE margin (126 straight games.)

So we already know that ESPN doesn't have any knowledge of the game of basketball before MJ. NONE.

Lebron at #3???

A complete JOKE, and a slap in the face of not only Wilt, but Magic, Russell, Shaq, and Duncan.

Tl;dr
Too bad for you that LeTHICK is top 3 while Wilt is not.

Maybe because lebron is a 26 ppg finals scorer while Wilt is only an 18 ppg:lol

Or a 28 ppg playoffs scorer while Wilt is only a 22 ppg playoff scorer:lol

What a choker.

[LAZERUSS]

Tl;dr
Too bad for you that LeTHICK is top 3 while Wilt is not.

Maybe because lebron is a 26 ppg finals scorer while Wilt is only an 18 ppg:lol

Or a 28 ppg playoffs scorer while Wilt is only a 22 ppg playoff scorer:lol

What a choker.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

"Mr. 3 inches"...which he proudly showed off to millions on national TV.

[Mr Feeny]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

"Mr. 3 inches"...which he proudly showed off to millions on national TV.

3 inches yet still averages more points in playoffs and finals than your hero.
This while being a playmaker :lebronamazed:
:applause: