Was The 2002 WCF (Lakers Vs Kings) Fixed By The NBA?

[Draz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTBrb92ZbLc

One of the NBA's most controversial games, ever.

That flop by Robert Horry was terrible. So many questionable calls. The block was clean.

It made sense.. No one wanted to see Nets vs Kings

Thoughts? Not a bait thread btw, just for the sake of discussion

[SouBeachTalents]

A truly original topic

[Mr Feeny]

Has been debated a million times and an overwhelming majority of fans agree that it was the worst officiated game in nba history.

But what's done is done and there's no point arguing about it either way. It was was what it was the Lakers won the championship that year.

[inclinerator]

is that justin's younger more successful brother?

[Im Still Ballin]

Never

Forget

[JBSptfn]

Maybe to a point, although the Kings were the ones who were missing all the free throws. They may not have had the intestinal fortitude to get it done.

[bobopenguin]

Nope,
But 2006 heats vs mavs was definitely fixed.

[Nick Young]

No, the Lakers just kicked the Kings ass+Big Shot Rob:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Prime_Shaq]

No.

[TomCat]

If this game was fixed, then 2006 is for sure

[sbw19]

There were some horrible calls in the series esp in certain games, but if it was fixed the FT disparity certainly didn't show it. The Kings shot 20 more FTs in that series if I remember correctly, but ironically it was the Lakers who converted more FTs (in Gm7 in particular) despite having one of the worst FT shooters on the floor.

[LAZERUSS]

There were TWO horribly officiated games in that series. Game six gets all the pub, but game five was just as suspicious, and it all went in Sacramento's favor.

[Mr Feeny]

There were TWO horribly officiated games in that series. Game six gets all the pub, but game five was just as suspicious, and it all went in Sacramento's favor.definitely not, which is why nobody talks about the other game which is supposedly "just as bad"

As a laker, Wilt, and Kobe stan, you're going to make a lot of baseless claims. Unfortunately for you, nobody else thinks that any other game in that or any other series comes as close to as badly officiated as the 2002 wcf game 6 was.
There's a reason it's considered the worst officiated game in nba history. It was like watching wwe. At times, all anyone could do was laugh.

[LAZERUSS]

definitely not, which is why nobody talks about the other game which is supposedly "just as bad"

As a laker, Wilt, and Kobe stan, you're going to make a lot of baseless claims. Unfortunately for you, nobody else thinks that any other game in that or any other series comes as close to as badly officiated as the 2002 wcf game 6 was.
There's a reason it's considered the worst officiated game in nba history. It was like watching wwe. At times, all anyone could do was laugh.

All you need to know about game five, aside from the Kings getting every call down the stretch, was that Shaq took ONE FTA. In the rest of the series, he averaged 11+ per game. He also fouled out in his 32 minutes, while Divac and Pollard combined for three fouls. In their other six games of that series, the two averaged 9 PFs a game. Including that game seven, Shaq averaged 4 PFs a game, and remove it, and it was 3.5.

In fact, you would be hard-pressed to find another game in Shaq's prime, in which he only took ONE FTA.

[Mr Feeny]

All you need to know about game five, aside from the Kings getting every call down the stretch, was that Shaq took ONE FTA. In the rest of the series, he averaged 11+ per game. He also fouled out in his 32 minutes, while Divac and Pollard combined for three fouls. In their other six games of that series, the two averaged 9 PFs a game. Including that game seven, Shaq averaged 4 PFs a game, and remove it, and it was 3.5.

In fact, you would be hard-pressed to find another game in Shaq's prime, in which he only took ONE FTA.

It's not difficult to comprehend. Shaq had one of the worst games of his career. That's about it. Having an awful game doesn't mean you were stiffed by refs.

On the otherhand, almost all basketball fans universally agree that game 6 was the worst officiated game in nba history.

Come again. Thank you.

[LAZERUSS]

It's not difficult to comprehend. Shaq had one of the worst games of his career. That's about it. Having an awful game doesn't mean you were stiffed by refs.

On the otherhand, almost all basketball fans universally agree that game 6 was the worst officiated game in nba history.

Come again. Thank you.

And OBVIOUSLY, you did NOT, and have NOT watched that game. But thank you for posting yet another baseless opinion.


How about this...

http://grantland.com/features/2002-western-conference-oral-history-los-angeles-lakers-sacramento-kings/


For all the fuss about officiating in this series, Game 5 never gets mentioned enough. As Christie says now, it’s “a game that kind of goes under the radar.” Even though Webber played another superb game (29 points and 13 rebounds) and Mike Bibby (23 points) came through down the stretch, Shaq (just 32 minutes) battled foul trouble the whole game and eventually fouled out; in a relatively astonishing twist, Shaq attempted only one free throw all night.10 And Bibby hit a game-winning jumper with 8.2 seconds left in the middle of a controversial series of plays. First, Webber appeared to knock the ball out of bounds, but officials said it deflected off Robert Horry. Then, Webber appeared to truck over Derek Fisher in handing the ball off to Bibby, freeing him for the game-winning look. On the final play, Bobby Jackson made contact on Kobe Bryant’s attempt at a game winner, but no call was made and Sacramento snuck off with a 92-91 win. Divac blew kisses into the crowd after the win. Co-owner Gavin Maloof jumped onto the scorer’s table, pumping his fists. The series had flipped again.

And all of the above was just a tiny sample of the either INTENTIONAL or else completely INEPT officiating in that game. And again, the Kings got EVERY call down the stretch. IMPOSSIBLE.

Regarding Shaq's foul problems, and ONE FTA...there are two back-to-back plays in that contest which CLEARLY were either BLOWN calls, or INTENTIONALLY blown calls. One, Shaq scores on a dunk, but the camera clearly showed Pollard INTENTIONALLY hitting Shaq on his forehead with an elbow. BLATANT...and yet..NO call. Then at the other end, Shaq goes up for s defensive rebound with two Kings draped all over him, One of the Kings climbs over his back, hits the top of his head with an elbow, while the other is clinging to his arms. Shaq shakes them off, and is called for a foul.

Again, Shaq fouling out in 32 minutes, and attempting ONE FT, while Divac and Pollard combined for thee fouls???? Virtually an impossibility. And the REST of the series proved that.

So take your Kobe-bashing lies somewhere else where idiots may believe them, but don't bring them to this Forum.

[TheImmortal]

Kings shot more free-throws than prime Kobe + prime Shaq and the Lakers.. The better team won.

[swagga]

And OBVIOUSLY, you did NOT, and have NOT watched that game. But thank you for posting yet another baseless opinion.


How about this...

http://grantland.com/features/2002-western-conference-oral-history-los-angeles-lakers-sacramento-kings/



And all of the above was just a tiny sample of the either INTENTIONAL or else completely INEPT officiating in that game. And again, the Kings got EVERY call down the stretch. IMPOSSIBLE.

Regarding Shaq's foul problems, and ONE FTA...there are two back-to-back plays in that contest which CLEARLY were either BLOWN calls, or INTENTIONALLY blown calls. One, Shaq scores on a dunk, but the camera clearly showed Pollard INTENTIONALLY hitting Shaq on his forehead with an elbow. BLATANT...and yet..NO call. Then at the other end, Shaq goes up for s defensive rebound with two Kings draped all over him, One of the Kings climbs over his back, hits the top of his head with an elbow, while the other is clinging to his arms. Shaq shakes them off, and is called for a foul.

Again, Shaq fouling out in 32 minutes, and attempting ONE FT, while Divac and Pollard combined for thee fouls???? Virtually an impossibility. And the REST of the series proved that.

So take your Kobe-bashing lies somewhere else where idiots may believe them, but don't bring them to this Forum.

I think people know the series was rigged and automatically think it was for the lakers. The series was refereed unevenly, contact was not called in some games and was called a lot in others. Free throws were given in some games but not in other. It was inconsistent refereeing at its corrupt best. The series was rigged, but overall it wasn't rigged for any team in particular, but for the longevity of the series, which was making $$$ for the league.

[swagga]

It's not difficult to comprehend. Shaq had one of the worst games of his career. That's about it. Having an awful game doesn't mean you were stiffed by refs.

On the otherhand, almost all basketball fans universally agree that game 6 was the worst officiated game in nba history.

Come again. Thank you.

It's not to difficult to state that you are under 15 and haven't seen any game from that series.

[LAZERUSS]

I think people know the series was rigged and automatically think it was for the lakers. The series was refereed unevenly, contact was not called in some games and was called a lot in others. Free throws were given in some games but not in other. It was inconsistent refereeing at its corrupt best. The series was rigged, but overall it wasn't rigged for any team in particular, but for the longevity of the series, which was making $$$ for the league.

Agreed.

It was a joke...,BUT, the best team did win. Hell, just the year before the Lakers SWEPT the Kings, including consecutive blow-out wins.

And the Kings never recovered.

[WayOfWade]

I think people know the series was rigged and automatically think it was for the lakers. The series was refereed unevenly, contact was not called in some games and was called a lot in others. Free throws were given in some games but not in other. It was inconsistent refereeing at its corrupt best. The series was rigged, but overall it wasn't rigged for any team in particular, but for the longevity of the series, which was making $$$ for the league.
Very interesting, never thought of it like that, fantastic post

[Mr Feeny]

All these laker stans with their panties in a twist:lol

It's ok homies. You still got the chip. You're just not gonna change most people's opinions that it was rigged for the Lakers. Deal with it :lebronamazed:

[LAZERUSS]

All these laker stans with their panties in a twist:lol

It's ok homies. You still got the chip. You're just not gonna change most people's opinions that it was rigged for the Lakers. Deal with it :lebronamazed:

This...coming from the biggest Kobe-basher on the forum.

Kobe >>> Lebron. Deal with it.

[Mr Feeny]

This...coming from the biggest Kobe-basher on the forum.

Kobe >>> Lebron. Deal with it.

One is a top 10 player (3rd specifically).
The other is Kobe Bryant

Deal with it :lebronamazed:

[swagga]

Very interesting, never thought of it like that, fantastic post

when you got a series with teams that are hard matchups for each another due to very different personnel (lakers and kings, heat and dallas) it's always easy to prolong the series by refereeing inconsistently. By refereeing in one style (e.g. physical) over another it's easy to favor a team (e.g. lakers) or a player (e.g. shaq). The other side of the coin applies too, it's easy to freeze a player be refereeing against his weakness (e.g. shaq's offensive fouls). It's how game manipulation and league intervention has been done for decades.

Another classic example is wade's free throws in 2006, they called the game tight and dallas didn't have the personnel to contain wade, as the heat didn't have the personnel to handle dirk, it was called this way in order to maximize the exposure of the two best players in the series, it wasn't a hatched job but a subtle, intellectual way of generating revenue. Heat won and dallas choked, the refs didn't hand the heat a free ring.

A counterexample of intellectual tampering is the blatant league intervention with the screens of this year's GSW. The problem I have with this is that it needs to be called the same way on both teams or not called at all. This leads to huge frustration for the other team and the game gets dirty in a hurry. This is especially valid in the playoffs, and especially valid when losing by 30. By doing this the league is actually doing GSW (and the fans) a disfavor imo, GSW would easily win anyway. It's actually a weighted risk for Adam Silver, the revenue of an artificially dominant team (they're great but not GOAT) vs the risk of said team to be injured by frustrated opponents (e.g. beverly, dellavedova)

This is big money folks, that's how it's done and that's how you grow a league and present it to the casuals. And this strategy is applied to all sports (e.g. soccer)

[swagga]

One is a top 10 player (3rd specifically).
The other is Kobe Bryant

Deal with it :lebronamazed:

doe I am amazed :lebronamazed::lebronamazed::lebronamazed: of how you manage to remember the passwords for all your alts. I don't even want to imagine your post/day count.