Kawhi Leonard passes Bran on the GOAT list with his 2nd DPOY award...

[stalkerforlife]

How can anyone deny it?

Leonard won the FMVP going one on one against Bran.

He's 2-0 in DPOY awards and is easily better than him on that side of the ball.

Leonard did not, and never will, cowardly collude to win rings with fellow top 10 players in their primes.

Leonard is by far the better shooter and defender and much more alpha.

I am SERIOUS as heck when I say Leonard is higher on the GOAT list than Bran.

[Quickening]

:sleeping

[stalkerforlife]

Bran's career is fraudulent and even SVG admitted it yesterday..."Bran's Bran. He's not going to get called for offensive fouls. He can do whatever he wants."

Bran colluded to form two super teams and eliminate the possibility of any competition in the eastern conference. The NBA and the networks have pushed the agenda to make money and build a false premise.

Bran is not real. He is a conjured up figment of the imagination of low IQ having sheep.

[keep-itreal]

not impressed.

Beat Golden State then I'll agree

[Mr Feeny]

Agree with op that k-why should be ranked ahead of Mr 12:applause:

[stalkerforlife]

Agree with op that k-why should be ranked ahead of Mr 12:applause:

Doesn't matter to me.

But I do know he's better than Bran.

[HurricaneKid]

1 time All Star > 4 time MVP ?

No shock I already had you on ignore...

[Leroy Jetson]

Even as a Spurs fan I have to say this is objectively ridiculous. At this point Lebron's 2 Fmvps 4 Mvps and overall historical numbers tend to trump one fmvp and 2 dpoy awards. That being said considering Kawhi's steady rise along with Lebron's steady decline does make it conceivable that Kawhi could pass him some time in the future, especially considering the likely event of Lebron continuing to lose finals. Let's assume Kawhi can lead the Spurs past the Warriors at least a few times and then defeat the Cavs or another Eastern challenger each time they make it to the finals. Say he finished his career at 4-1 in the finals with 3 Fmvps, 1MVP and 4 Dpoy awards I think he has an argument over Bron if Bron ends up going 2-9 on his career for example.

[scuzzy]

Ranked 12th

[Gileraracer]

Kiwhi = way better shooter also

[ShawkFactory]

Stop. Don't let people like dubeta bring you down to their level.

[stalkerforlife]

Stop. Don't let people like dubeta bring you down to their level.

I'm being serious.

If Bran wasn't allowed to stiff arm and barrel through defenders, he'd be exposed as a talent-less role player.

The NBA created him.

[3ball]

Kawhi now joins a small group of players that won DPOY as perimeter players:


(Moncrief/Rodman/Jordan/Cooper/Payton/Artest)


But only 1 of those them was also the GOAT scorer

When ranking perimeter players ONLY, Jordan is the only player that ranks in top 5 on both sides of the ball.
.

[FireDavidKahn]

Kawhi is legitimately on his way to becoming the greatest defender ever.

[Uncle Drew]

Kawhi now joins a small group of players that won DPOY as perimeter players:


(Moncrief/Rodman/Jordan/Cooper/Payton/Artest)


But only 1 of those them was also the GOAT scorer

When ranking perimeter players ONLY, Jordan is the only player that ranks in top 5 on both sides of the ball.
.
How does he join a small group if he just won his 2nd award?

[miggyme1]

until kawhi puts a team like the 07 cavs on his back and leads them to the finals.............

[stalkerforlife]

until kawhi puts a team like the 07 cavs on his back and leads them to the finals.............

He will never play in that weak of a conference. :confusedshrug:

[ralph_i_el]

:facepalm This shit head.

OP is the worst poster of all time.

[ShawkFactory]

I'm being serious.

If Bran wasn't allowed to stiff arm and barrel through defenders, he'd be exposed as a talent-less role player.

The NBA created him.
Oh no.

Bran's gotten into your head and truly warped it. I'll pray for you.

[k0kakw0rld]

Doesn't matter to me.

But I do know he's better than Bran.
OK you right he is better than BRAN. You want a cookie?

[stalkerforlife]

OK you right he is better than BRAN. You want a cookie?

Thank you for your honesty.

[Dray n Klay]

Justin...

[miggyme1]

He will never play in that weak of a conference. :confusedshrug:


to be fair LeBron had a cakewalk to the ecf but he single handedly beat a BETTER pistons team 4-2.

[3ball]

Lebron led 2007 Cavs to the Finals against the Spurs.............


Lebron shit the bed in the Finals - many guys played better against the same Spurs team:


Lebron vs. Spurs in 2007 Finals: 22 ppg on 35%

Melo vs. Spurs in 2007 1st Rd: 27 ppg on 48%

Dirk vs. Spurs in 2007.. WCF: 27 ppg on 53%

Bonzi vs. Spurs in 2006 1st Rd: 23/12 on 61%

Kobe vs. Spurs in 2008.. WCF: 29 ppg on 53%



The reason for Lebron's worse efficiency was JUMPSHOOTING EFFICIENCY:


....................... midrange jumpshot FG%..... 3-point jumpshot FG%..... Jumpshot proportion of offense

Lebron 2007 Finals (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4) .............14.8........................... 20.0............................... 52.2
Bonzi 2006 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1719/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ..............50.0........................... 62.5............................... 32.2
Dirk 2006 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1717/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) ..................41.3........................... 50.0 .............................. 61.2
Melo 2007 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2546/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ...............37.5........................... 50.0 .............................. 59.1
Kobe 2008 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) .................50.0........................... 33.3............................... 63.3



Everyone shot well on jumpers against the Spurs, EXCEPT Lebron - the so the Spurs jumpshooting defense clearly wasn't prohibitive - Lebron just can't shoot.

Even 9 years later in 2016, his efficiency is among the worst in NBA outside the paint... Lebron simply CAN'T SHOOT.. When a player can't shoot, there are tons of guys that can play better than him.






Lebron had no chance in 2007 Finals


Not true - despite Lebron's 22 ppg on 35%, all 4 games were single-digit affairs, including 1-possession nail-biters in Games 3 and 4.. (edit: Game 1 was 11 pt game)

The Cavs had a great defense, but just needed a consistent volume scorer to win.
.

[Nilocon165]

Your posts are visibly getting stupider and desperate by the day

[miggyme1]

Lebron shit the bed in the Finals - many guys played better against the same Spurs team:


Lebron vs. Spurs in 2007 Finals: 22 ppg on 35%

Melo vs. Spurs in 2007 1st Rd: 27 ppg on 48%

Dirk vs. Spurs in 2007.. WCF: 27 ppg on 53%

Bonzi vs. Spurs in 2006 1st Rd: 23/12 on 61%

Kobe vs. Spurs in 2008.. WCF: 29 ppg on 53%



The reason for Lebron's worse efficiency was JUMPSHOOTING EFFICIENCY:


....................... midrange jumpshot FG%..... 3-point jumpshot FG%..... Jumpshot proportion of offense

Lebron 2007 Finals (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4) .............14.8........................... 20.0............................... 52.2
Bonzi 2006 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1719/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ..............50.0........................... 62.5............................... 32.2
Dirk 2006 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1717/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) ..................41.3........................... 50.0 .............................. 61.2
Melo 2007 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2546/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ...............37.5........................... 50.0 .............................. 59.1
Kobe 2008 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) .................50.0........................... 33.3............................... 63.3



Everyone shot well on jumpers against the Spurs, EXCEPT Lebron - the so the Spurs jumpshooting defense clearly wasn't prohibitive - Lebron just can't shoot.

Even 9 years later in 2016, his efficiency is among the worst in NBA outside the paint... Lebron simply CAN'T SHOOT.. When a player can't shoot, there are tons of guys that can play better than him.




Not true - despite Lebron's 22 ppg on 35%, all 4 games were single-digit affairs, including 1-possession nail-biters in Games 3 and 4.. (edit: Game 1 was 11 pt game)

The Cavs had a great defense, but just needed a consistent volume scorer to win.



wtf???? what does that have to do with anything I said.......

my point was that LeBron took a shitty team to a finals....not how he played against the spurs. smh

[3ball]

wtf???? what does that have to do with anything I said.......

my point was that LeBron took a shitty team to a finals....not how he played against the spurs. smh



Bigger Overachievement: Jordan's 1989 vs. Lebron's 2007:


Jordan's Bulls were 47-25 and the 6 seed.
Lebron's Cavs were 50-32 and the 2 seed.


1st Round Jordan: CLE...(#3 seed, 57-25, #2 ranked defense... 40.0.. 6.0.. 8.1.. 51.8% FG)
1st Round Lebron: WSH (#7 seed, 41-41, #28 ranked defense.. 27.0.. 8.5.. 7.5.. 42.5% FG)

2nd Round Jordan: NYK (#2 seed, 52-30, #10 ranked defense... 35.5.. 9.5.. 8.3.. 55.0% FG)
2nd Round Lebron: NJN (#6 seed, 41-41, #15 ranked defense... 24.7.. 7.3.. 8.5.. 42.3% FG)

Conf. Finals Jordan: DET (#1 seed, 62-30, #3 ranked defense... 30.0.. 5.5.. 6.5.. 46.0% FG)
Conf. Finals Lebron: DET (#1 seed, 53-29, #7 ranked defense... 25.7.. 9.1.. 8.5.. 44.9% FG)


Lebron's run is VASTLY overrated

[miggyme1]

Bigger Overachievement: Jordan's 1989 vs. Lebron's 2007:


Jordan's Bulls were 47-25 and the 6 seed.
Lebron's Cavs were 50-32 and the 2 seed.


1st Round Jordan: CLE...(#3 seed, 57-25, #2 ranked defense... 40.0.. 6.0.. 8.1.. 51.8% FG)
1st Round Lebron: WSH (#7 seed, 41-41, #28 ranked defense.. 27.0.. 8.5.. 7.5.. 42.5% FG)

2nd Round Jordan: NYK (#2 seed, 52-30, #10 ranked defense... 35.5.. 9.5.. 8.3.. 55.0% FG)
2nd Round Lebron: NJN (#6 seed, 41-41, #15 ranked defense... 24.7.. 7.3.. 8.5.. 42.3% FG)

Conf. Finals Jordan: DET (#1 seed, 62-30, #3 ranked defense... 30.0.. 5.5.. 6.5.. 46.0% FG)
Conf. Finals Lebron: DET (#1 seed, 53-29, #7 ranked defense... 25.7.. 9.1.. 8.5.. 44.9% FG)
.


DID JORDAN MAKE THE FINALS IN 89??? YES OR NO...........

[kamil]

not impressed.

Beat Golden State then I'll agree

LeBron* hasn't beat Golden State, but I'm sure your impressed with that. But more importantly, LeBron* needs to collude so how would that be impressive anyway?

BRAN LOGIC!

[3ball]

DID JORDAN MAKE THE FINALS IN 89??? YES OR NO...........



No, but it's clear that Jordan's 1989 was a bigger overachievement and superior performance than Lebron's 2007:


Jordan's Bulls were 47-25 and the 6 seed.
Lebron's Cavs were 50-32 and the 2 seed.


1st Round Jordan: CLE...(#3 seed, 57-25, #2 ranked defense... 40.0.. 6.0.. 8.1.. 51.8% FG)
1st Round Lebron: WSH (#7 seed, 41-41, #28 ranked defense.. 27.0.. 8.5.. 7.5.. 42.5% FG)

2nd Round Jordan: NYK (#2 seed, 52-30, #10 ranked defense... 35.5.. 9.5.. 8.3.. 55.0% FG)
2nd Round Lebron: NJN (#6 seed, 41-41, #15 ranked defense... 24.7.. 7.3.. 8.5.. 42.3% FG)

Conf. Finals Jordan: DET (#1 seed, 62-30, #3 ranked defense... 30.0.. 5.5.. 6.5.. 46.0% FG)
Conf. Finals Lebron: DET (#1 seed, 53-29, #7 ranked defense... 25.7.. 9.1.. 8.5.. 44.9% FG)



Also, when Jordan was 22 years old, he averaged 45 ppg on 50% against a championship team and #1 defense (1986 Celtics), compared to Lebron's 22 ppg on 35% vs. Spurs.

[miggyme1]

No, but it's clear that Jordan's 1989 was a bigger overachievement and superior performance than Lebron's 2007:


Jordan's Bulls were 47-25 and the 6 seed.
Lebron's Cavs were 50-32 and the 2 seed.


1st Round Jordan: CLE...(#3 seed, 57-25, #2 ranked defense... 40.0.. 6.0.. 8.1.. 51.8% FG)
1st Round Lebron: WSH (#7 seed, 41-41, #28 ranked defense.. 27.0.. 8.5.. 7.5.. 42.5% FG)

2nd Round Jordan: NYK (#2 seed, 52-30, #10 ranked defense... 35.5.. 9.5.. 8.3.. 55.0% FG)
2nd Round Lebron: NJN (#6 seed, 41-41, #15 ranked defense... 24.7.. 7.3.. 8.5.. 42.3% FG)

Conf. Finals Jordan: DET (#1 seed, 62-30, #3 ranked defense... 30.0.. 5.5.. 6.5.. 46.0% FG)
Conf. Finals Lebron: DET (#1 seed, 53-29, #7 ranked defense... 25.7.. 9.1.. 8.5.. 44.9% FG)



Also, when Jordan was 22 years old, he averaged 45 ppg on 50% against a championship team and #1 defense (1986 Celtics), compared to Lebron's 22 ppg on 35% vs. Spurs.


OK WE KNOW JORDAN IS A BETTER PLAYER OR WAS A BETTER PLAYER THAN BRON BUT WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH KAWHI ALLEGEDLY SURPASSING BRAN AS GOAT???? IM LOST

[tpols]

wtf???? what does that have to do with anything I said.......

my point was that LeBron took a shitty team to a finals....not how he played against the spurs. smh

who cares.. ? the average win total of teams he faced to get there was "shitty" as well, 45 wins average. wizards, nets, ancient pistons .. And then he got obliterated by the spurs who held the paint down and allowed bran to shoot midrange jumpers that he bricked worse than any other star that faced same defense.


2007 was not an accomplishment.

[miggyme1]

who cares.. ? the average win total of teams he faced to get there was "shitty" as well, 45 wins average. wizards, nets, ancient pistons .. And then he got obliterated by the spurs who held the paint down and allowed bran to shoot midrange jumpers that he bricked worse than any other star that faced same defense.


2007 was not an accomplishment.


ACCORDING TO WHO??? A GUY THAT SITS ON HIS COUCH ALL DAY??

A 23 YEAR OLD LEADING A TEAM TO THE NBA FINALS IS NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT??? LMAO ONLY ON ISH!!!!!!!

EDIT.....A 22 YEAR OLD.

[kamil]

who cares.. ? the average win total of teams he faced to get there was "shitty" as well, 45 wins average. wizards, nets, ancient pistons .. And then he got obliterated by the spurs who held the paint down and allowed bran to shoot midrange jumpers that he bricked worse than any other star that faced same defense.


2007 was not an accomplishment.

Dude's been bricking jumpers his whole career. The only way he knows to score points is by throwing stiff arms and steamrolling through the defence without having the refs call offensive fouls.

Fcuking overrated fraud. Can't believe people think he's top 10.

[tpols]

ACCORDING TO WHO??? A GUY THAT SITS ON HIS COUCH ALL DAY??

A 23 YEAR OLD LEADING A TEAM TO THE NBA FINALS IS NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT??? LMAO ONLY ON ISH!!!!!!!

EDIT.....A 22 YEAR OLD.

in that case, we cant even talk on the lowest of the scrubs .. since even they are above most us. :rolleyes:

[toprange]

How can anyone deny it?

Leonard won the FMVP going one on one against Bran.

He's 2-0 in DPOY awards and is easily better than him on that side of the ball.

Leonard did not, and never will, cowardly collude to win rings with fellow top 10 players in their primes.

Leonard is by far the better shooter and defender and much more alpha.

I am SERIOUS as heck when I say Leonard is higher on the GOAT list than Bran.
This makes more sense than espn ranking lebron as top 3 of all time

[miggyme1]

in that case, we cant even talk on the lowest of the scrubs .. since even they are above most us. :rolleyes:

EXACTLY. Back in the day if you disrespected a king and anyone ABOVE you.....YOU were beheaded. Now all of a sudden the internet came along and gave people this sense of bravado because they can hide behind a keyboard and monitor and spew garbage all day with out any consequences.

If leading a team to a finals at 22 isn't an accomplishment im scared to ask what you consider a 22 year old that just got accepted into grad school is considered. SMH

[Nilocon165]

A dumb thread made by a dumb mind

[tpols]

EXACTLY. Back in the day if you disrespected a king and anyone ABOVE you.....YOU were beheaded. Now all of a sudden the internet came along and gave people this sense of bravado because they can hide behind a keyboard and monitor and spew garbage all day with out any consequences.

If leading a team to a finals at 22 isn't an accomplishment im scared to ask what you consider a 22 year old that just got accepted into grad school is considered. SMH

:wtf:


I joke on bron in real life watching the games all the time, most my buddies dont like him as well. Ive yet to even come across a true bronfan irl. This isnt medieval times pal, where kings thought they were gods and would live for eternity in pleasure when they died.. theyre people like you and me dumbass.

[3ball]

.
According to Greg Popovich, Kawhi's 2-way play isn't on Jordan's level:



"(Kawhi) has the ability to do what a Michael Jordan did at both ends, and I don’t mean he’s Michael Jordan,” Popovich said. “But you think about the best players in the league, they’re not two-way players. He wants to do that.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2015/11/11/kawhi-leonard-gregg-popovich-spurs-charles-barkley-michael-jordan/75612616/



Jordan averaged 35 ppg while getting DPOY, compared to Kawhi's 20 ppg, so Popovich's comments aren't rocket science - they're intuitive... :confusedshrug: ... No comparison

[miggyme1]

:wtf:


I joke on bron in real life watching the games all the time, most my buddies dont like him as well. Ive yet to even come across a true bronfan irl. This isnt medieval times pal, where kings thought they were gods and would live for eternity in pleasure when they died.. theyre people like you and me dumbass.


STILL LIVING IN CAVES HUH?

This explains the idiocy that exudes from your posts.

[Uncle Drew]

[QUOTE=3ball].
According to Greg Popovich, Kawhi's 2-way play isn't on Jordan's level:


[INDENT]"[I](Kawhi) has the ability to do what a Michael Jordan did at both ends, [B]and I don

[Nilocon165]

WAAAAAA YOURE JUST A BRANVESTITE WAAAAAAA CAVS MOST STACKED TEAM OF ALL TIME WAAA I ONLY LIVE FOR KOBE

Keep crying. I have never seen someone so emotional over a big black man who puts balls inside baskets than you.

If you love Kobe, then go on YouTube and watch Kobe

If you hate Lebron and think he ruined basketball, then don't ****ing watch it.

God you have the mental mind of a 12 year old.

[ralph_i_el]

WAAAAAA YOURE JUST A BRANVESTITE WAAAAAAA CAVS MOST STACKED TEAM OF ALL TIME WAAA I ONLY LIVE FOR KOBE

Keep crying. I have never seen someone so emotional over a big black man who puts balls inside baskets than you.

If you love Kobe, then go on YouTube and watch Kobe

If you hate Lebron and think he ruined basketball, then don't ****ing watch it.

God you have the mental mind of a 12 year old.

Hey dude, don't be ableist lol. Stalker is actually mentally disabled.

[GrapeApe]

[QUOTE=3ball].
According to Greg Popovich, Kawhi's 2-way play isn't on Jordan's level:


[INDENT]"[I](Kawhi) has the ability to do what a Michael Jordan did at both ends, [B]and I don

[Nilocon165]

Who the hell ever compared Leonard to Jordan offensively? :oldlol:

You are the most insecure individual I've ever seen.
:oldlol:

[ShawkFactory]

Who the hell ever compared Leonard to Jordan offensively? :oldlol:

You are the most insecure individual I've ever seen.
Who compared him to Jordan...at all? :oldlol:

[3ball]

Who compared him to Jordan...at all? :oldlol:


Greg Popovich did - he said Kawhi's 2-way play isn't on Jordan's level:



"(Kawhi) has the ability to do what a Michael Jordan did at both ends, and I don’t mean he’s Michael Jordan,” Popovich said. “But you think about the best players in the league, they’re not two-way players. He wants to do that.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2015/11/11/kawhi-leonard-gregg-popovich-spurs-charles-barkley-michael-jordan/75612616/



Jordan averaged 35 ppg while getting DPOY, compared to Kawhi's 20 ppg, so Popovich's comments aren't rocket science - they're intuitive... :confusedshrug: ... No comparison

[JohnMax]

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lebronkawhi.gif

[ShawkFactory]

[QUOTE=3ball]Greg Popovich did - he said Kawhi's 2-way play isn't on Jordan's level:


[INDENT]"[I](Kawhi) has the ability to do what a Michael Jordan did at both ends, [B]and I don

[Nilocon165]

3ball is stupid and doesn't know it :oldlol:

[aquaadverse]

3Ball gonna 3Ball and bring up Jordon and 90's basketball no matter what the subject of the thread is. Even though he says he hasn't watched the NBA in 5 years. It's pretty strange for a guy who thinks the NBA is inferior now to spend so much time looking up stats and writing novelettes about a guy who hasn't played in years.

[Kingwillball]

Kawhi is legitimately on his way to becoming the greatest defender ever.

Than he should be guarding and shutting curry down when they meet to get to finals otherwise F@ckoff with stupidity.

[miggyme1]

Than he should be guarding and shutting curry down when they meet to get to finals otherwise F@ckoff with stupidity.


great offense always beats great defense

[Kingwillball]

great offense always beats great defense

Funny I saw KAT who is a center shut curry down one on one couple weeks ago on numerous switches. No excuses.

And that quote you have reversed the old saying is great D beats great O..

[ShawkFactory]

Funny I saw KAT who is a center shut curry down one on one couple weeks ago on numerous switches. No excuses.
So you'd just go ahead and stick KAT on Curry for a whole series and feel confident?

Clown.

[miggyme1]

Funny I saw KAT who is a center shut curry down one on one couple weeks ago on numerous switches. No excuses.

And that quote you have reversed the old saying is great D beats great O..


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Its a big difference between shutting someone down and someone having a bad night shooting. Don't you think if curry was capable of being shut down it would have been done by now??? another league mvp yet he got shut down by a rookie center. lmao...ok kid

[Kingwillball]

So you'd just go ahead and stick KAT on Curry for a whole series and feel confident?

Clown.

Yeah center guarding PG wake up .. Kwai should be able to take that assignment if he is a wing defender..

[Kingwillball]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Its a big difference between shutting someone down and someone having a bad night shooting. Don't you think if curry was capable of being shut down it would have been done by now??? another league mvp yet he got shut down by a rookie center. lmao...ok kid

Yeah cause KAT has quick feet long arms and great agility so curry could not shake and bake him forcing a shot a couple times that he normally wouldn't have too..and I'm not a kid I forgot more basketball than u know..

[ShawkFactory]

Yeah center guarding PG wake up .. Kwai should be able to take that assignment if he is a wing defender..
He will :confusedshrug:

[Lebronxrings]

Sooo another person who surpassed kobe. :lol

At this rate, he won't be able to stay in the top 20 by 2020.

[Paul George 24]

until kawhi puts a team like the 07 cavs on his back and leads them to the finals.............

SWEEP BY THE SPURS :roll:

[greymatter]

How can anyone deny it?

Leonard won the FMVP going one on one against Bran.

He's 2-0 in DPOY awards and is easily better than him on that side of the ball.

Leonard did not, and never will, cowardly collude to win rings with fellow top 10 players in their primes.

Leonard is by far the better shooter and defender and much more alpha.

I am SERIOUS as heck when I say Leonard is higher on the GOAT list than Bran.

/golfclap

Nice work. You're giving Real14, Nick Young, 9erempire stiff competition. Your mother must be proud.

[stalkerforlife]

WAAAAAA YOURE JUST A BRANVESTITE WAAAAAAA CAVS MOST STACKED TEAM OF ALL TIME WAAA I ONLY LIVE FOR KOBE

Keep crying. I have never seen someone so emotional over a big black man who puts balls inside baskets than you.

If you love Kobe, then go on YouTube and watch Kobe

If you hate Lebron and think he ruined basketball, then don't ****ing watch it.

God you have the mental mind of a 12 year old.

Don't shoot the messenger.

[Dray n Klay]

Don't shoot the messenger.

Justin....

[stalkerforlife]

3ball doing work in this thread, though.

As always.

[stalkerforlife]

Justin....

You're an abusive person.

[Dray n Klay]

You're an abusive person.

How?

I'm just a brand new poster seeking acceptance on ISH :(