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Im Still Ballin
04-18-2016, 10:20 AM
That Threepeat period always interests me about Kobe

I'll make a ranking in a second

Nilocon165
04-18-2016, 10:24 AM
Eddie curry is the greatest center ever

Im Still Ballin
04-18-2016, 10:25 AM
Eddie curry is the greatest center ever
Was by far the best shaq defender

THE STATS SUGGEST THIS!

Gotterdammerung
04-18-2016, 10:51 AM
The Pubescent Years: 1996-1999
Kobe was still in his Young Padwan stage, transitioning from high school to the pros. Mostly a back-up.

The Frobe Years: 1999-2004
Kobe hit his athletic prime, became legit All-Pro, sublimated his game with a Pantheon great in Shaq, & won titles.

The Lone Gunman Years: 2004-2007
Kobe went full "Black Mamba" despite or because of a lack of talent around him, peaked in 2006 with 35 ppg.

The Mature Jedi Master Years: 2007-2011
As the Lakers improved, Kobe re-sublimated his game and made 3 consecutive Finals, won back to back titles.

The Twilight Years: 2011-2016
Three major injuries robbed Kobe of a slow fade to black type of career. But we will always have 60 on 50. :cheers:

sammichoffate
04-18-2016, 10:55 AM
The Pubescent Years: 1996-1999
Kobe was still in his Young Padwan stage, transitioning from high school to the pros. Mostly a back-up.

The Frobe Years: 1999-2004
Kobe hit his athletic prime, became legit All-Pro, sublimated his game with a Pantheon great in Shaq, & won titles.

The Lone Gunman Years: 2004-2007
Kobe went full "Black Mamba" despite or because of a lack of talent around him, peaked in 2006 with 35 ppg.

The Mature Jedi Master Years: 2007-2013
As the Lakers improved, Kobe re-sublimated his game and made 3 consecutive Finals, won back to back titles.

The Twilight Years: 2014-2016
Three major injuries robbed Kobe of a slow fade to black type of career. But we will always have 60 on 50. :cheers:Fixed

scuzzy
04-18-2016, 11:02 AM
Faber knocks



Achilles pops



50 shots



Mic drops

Im Still Ballin
04-18-2016, 11:03 AM
You just feel like Kobe lost a lot of chips in the Frobe-Lone Gunman transition phase

Bankaii
04-18-2016, 11:05 AM
As an individual player?

1) ChuckBe: 2005-2007
2) FroBe: 2001-2004
3) WinnerBe: 2008-2010
4) TwilightBe: 2011-2013
5) NewBe: 1996-2000
6) OldBe: 2014-2016

Quickening
04-18-2016, 11:10 AM
As an individual player?

1) ChuckBe: 2005-2007
2) FroBe: 2001-2004
3) WinnerBe: 2008-2010
4) TwilightBe: 2011-2013
5) NewBe: 1996-2000
6) OldBe: 2014-2016

This is about right, and highlights why the ring argument holds too much weight when ranking individual players. Kobe won all his rings outside of his peak years.

Gotterdammerung
04-18-2016, 11:10 AM
Fixed
:kobe:
Actually Kobe got hurt in the 2011 playoffs. Then had a down year in 2012 and finally blew out his Achilles Tendon in 2013.

sammichoffate
04-18-2016, 11:37 AM
:kobe:
Actually Kobe got hurt in the 2011 playoffs. Then had a down year in 2012 and finally blew out his Achilles Tendon in 2013.He had two pretty good years in 11' and 12', fantastic year in 2013 before the injury.

Prime_Shaq
04-18-2016, 11:41 AM
2008 was his best year in terms of knowing when to get his team involved and when to take over. A very composed veteran knowing how to effectively pick apart a defense at will and truly LED his team. Its too bad he just met 3 much hungrier players in the Finals.

Stringer Bell
04-18-2016, 11:53 AM
I'm not sure exactly what his peak year was. Kobe put up the best scoring numbers in 2005-06, but part of that was because he had to with that team, and also it was a great year for perimeter players with the rule changes and ref calls. Iverson and Lebron also put up terrific numbers that year, I think they scored their career highs also.

You could say Kobe's "prime" lasted a very long time, from the 2000-01 season to somewhere in the late 2000s or early 10s. I don't know when his "peak" was. Kobe played great during the 00-01 season and had some spectacular performances in the postseason. Game 1 of WCF against the Spurs was his best postseason performance IMO, definitely one of his greatest performances ever period when you take into account the defense he was playing against and how often he attacked the rim against Duncan and Robinson.

guy
04-18-2016, 01:18 PM
2006
2008
2007
2001
2003
2009
2010
2002
2012
2013
2004
2011
2000
2005
1999
1998
1997
2014
2015
2016

SamuraiSWISH
04-18-2016, 06:45 PM
2006
2008
2003
2001
2007
2009
2010
2013
2002
2004
2012
2005
2000
2011
1999
1998
2014
2015
1997
2016

In eras, individually?

Black Mamba: 2005 - 2007
AlphaBe: 2008 - 2010
FroBe: 2000 - 2004
Vino: 2011 - 2013
NewBe: 1997 - 1999
OldBe: 2014 - 2016

T_L_P
04-18-2016, 06:51 PM
03 > 08 > 01 > 06

AngelEyes
04-18-2016, 07:04 PM
Kobe trimmed his fro in 2002. So the Frobe era lasted from the 1997-98 season to the 2001-02 season.

Real14
04-18-2016, 07:22 PM
Frobe years is 1997-2002 actually:rolleyes:

Real14
04-18-2016, 07:23 PM
Kobe trimmed his fro in 2002. So the Frobe era lasted from the 1997-98 season to the 2001-02 season.
Thanks. Op is off with that.

Dragonyeuw
04-18-2016, 07:25 PM
I have 2008 Kobe over 2006. I imagine the insane PPG is why people pick that year but I think he was just as capable of that in 2008, but played a much better overall floor game and leadership. I think 2003 was a better year than 2006 across the board as well, 7 rebounds, 6 assists. So many people get caught up in the 35ppg but that year was an explosion of offense around the league with teams adusting to the new rules. Right behind Kobes 35 was Iverson at 33( at 30 years old and on the downside of his prime),Lebron at 31 and Arenas at 29. All the big scorers put up career numbers in 2006.

AlphaWolf24
04-18-2016, 07:26 PM
in order

2003 - Reg season 30ppg 7reb 6ast Pst season 32PPG 5reb 5ast
2001 - Reg season 29PPG 6reb 5ast Pst season 29PPG 7reb 7ast
2006 - Reg season 35PPG 5reb 5ast Pst season 28PPG 6reb 5ast
2008 - Reg season 28PPG 6reb 5ast Pst season 30PPB 6reb 6ast
2010 - Reg season 27PPG 5reb 5ast Pst season 29PPG 6reb 6ast
2002 - Reg season 25PPG 6reb 6ast Pst season 27PPG 6reb 5ast
2009 - Reg season 27PPG 5reb 5ast Pst season 30PPG 5reb 6ast
2007 - Reg season 32PPG 7reb 5ast Pst season 33PPG 5reb 4ast
2000 - Reg season 23PPG 6reb 5ast Pst season 21PPG 5reb 4ast


damn!@ :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


ps....I rated his 01' 02' 03' and 06' seasons so high...because of his dominating defense...

Cold soul
04-18-2016, 08:08 PM
06
03
08
01
07
09
02
10

Those are his best years as player in order.

TheImmortal
04-18-2016, 08:08 PM
in order

2003 - Reg season 30ppg 7reb 6ast Pst season 32PPG 5reb 5ast
2001 - Reg season 29PPG 6reb 5ast Pst season 29PPG 7reb 7ast
2006 - Reg season 35PPG 5reb 5ast Pst season 28PPG 6reb 5ast
2008 - Reg season 28PPG 6reb 5ast Pst season 30PPB 6reb 6ast
2010 - Reg season 27PPG 5reb 5ast Pst season 29PPG 6reb 6ast
2002 - Reg season 25PPG 6reb 6ast Pst season 27PPG 6reb 5ast
2009 - Reg season 27PPG 5reb 5ast Pst season 30PPG 5reb 6ast
2007 - Reg season 32PPG 7reb 5ast Pst season 33PPG 5reb 4ast
2000 - Reg season 23PPG 6reb 5ast Pst season 21PPG 5reb 4ast


damn!@ :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


ps....I rated his 01' 02' 03' and 06' seasons so high...because of his dominating defense...
LORDbe! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Jacks3
04-18-2016, 09:36 PM
2007
2006
2008
2009/2003--Can't decide
2001
2010
2002
2004
2013
2012
2011
2000
1999
1998
1997

Dude was a top 3 player in the world in 2013 and that's not even a top six version of Kobe. :oldlol:

Ridiculous career.

SamuraiSWISH
04-18-2016, 11:31 PM
2007
2006
2008
2009/2003--Can't decide
2001
2010
2002
2004
2013
2012
2011
2000
1999
1998
1997

Dude was a top 3 player in the world in 2013 and that's not even a top six version of Kobe. :oldlol:

Ridiculous career.
Interesting. Care to explain this as your choice?

He started off the 2007 season slow being a little over weight, and meager athleticism while recovering from knee surgery.

Had a huge scoring stretch, but still wasn't his best defensively, or athletically. And he didn't have a great playoffs, and the Lakers got beat even quicker v.s. the Suns then they had the season prior when it at least went 7 games.

AlphaWolf24
04-18-2016, 11:31 PM
Name any player....not named Jordan who put up those numbers that I posted ..that many seasons....while being a 5x champion.....and ..


All defensive team member

SamuraiSWISH
04-18-2016, 11:34 PM
Name any player....not named Jordan who put up those numbers that I posted ..that many seasons....while being a 5x champion.....and ..


All defensive team member
Only Jordan did those numbers better, while being superior defensively. Or that caliber of a defender, while also being that level of an offensive weapon.

LeBron might've had a stetch from 2009 - 2013 where he was equally impactful on both ends at the highest of levels.

AlphaWolf24
04-18-2016, 11:42 PM
Only Jordan did those numbers better, while being superior defensively. Or that caliber of a defender, while also being that level of an offensive weapon.

LeBron might've had a stetch from 2009 - 2013 where he was equally impactful on both ends at the highest of levels.


What up swish....still haven't posted any videos..lol

Yup...only MJ


lebron still didn't do it as long as Kobe or win as much

Jacks3
04-18-2016, 11:44 PM
Interesting. Care to explain this as your choice?

He started off the 2007 season slow being a little over weight, and meager athleticism while recovering from knee surgery.

Had a huge scoring stretch, but still wasn't his best defensively, or athletically. And he didn't have a great playoffs, and the Lakers got beat even quicker v.s. the Suns then they had the season prior when it at least went 7 games.

You're taking Kobe because of his offense and 07 was his offensive peak. He was more efficient and a better shooter than he was in 2006. A better and more willing passer. And quicker and more decisive with his moves. Basically he was like a more refined version of his 2006 version. I just love his offensive game that season.

ISHGoat
04-19-2016, 12:25 AM
RapeBe (2004-2006)
GasolBe (2007-2010)
CarriedBe (2000-2002)
NoobBe (rookie-1999)
OldBe (2011 - present)

riseagainst
04-19-2016, 02:48 AM
Kobe's best year is this year.

So many people talking about him even though they claim him to be irrelevant.

RentFreeBe.

:bowdown:

julizaver
04-19-2016, 10:08 AM
For me Kobe's best season was the season he ruptured his Achiles 2012-2013 - that season he had games where he caried the Lakers to the postseason alone, prior to his season ending injury he played some of the best basketball of his career playing the full 48 minutes and although there is no direct relation to this type of injury I am sure that him playing almost all the minutes prior to that had attributed to it.