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FillJackson
04-18-2016, 08:28 PM
16% of all Democratic delegates will be awarded in the next 8 days.

April 19th
NY Polls close at 9 PM.
247 unpledged and 44 super delegates up for grabs.

April 26th
Then a week from Tuesday another 384 delegates and 78 super delegates up for grabs in

Rhode Island, Pennsylvania , Delaware, Connecticut and Maryland



Clinton has 1758
Sanders has 1076

Nanners
04-18-2016, 08:39 PM
Sanders is down by about 200 pleged delegates

How many alt accounts do you have on this website kevin? kevinNYC + filljackson + ???

FillJackson
04-18-2016, 08:42 PM
Republican Primaries

11% of Republican delegates are up for grabs in 8 days.
95 in NY. Then 172 in the other states.

NY will go a big way to determining if Trump hits 1237.

FillJackson
04-18-2016, 08:48 PM
The Sanders campaign has admitted that their only path to winning is by flipping superdelegates, so it makes sense to include the real numbers.

The pledged delegate lead is 244 at RCP. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html)

FillJackson
04-18-2016, 08:53 PM
Sanders campaign is also saying that NY is not a must win for them. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-new-york-222077#ixzz46EHLRCts)

"Here’s the truth: we don’t have to win New York on Tuesday, but we have to pick up a lot of delegates," campaign manager Jeff Weaver wrote

Read more:

Jameerthefear
04-18-2016, 08:57 PM
hopefully sanders drops out after he gets BTFO tomorrow

FillJackson
04-18-2016, 09:02 PM
This delegate count has it at 204 pledged delegates (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/167RlmxSvrotSiVHmaQuIio3BbGlCmrUgObX2kHM80yQ/edit#gid=1771503707).

This website is supposedly the most up to date, but I can barely read the thing
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D-PU.phtml

FillJackson
04-18-2016, 09:10 PM
hopefully sanders drops out after he gets BTFO tomorrow
Other than Kasich possibly, and I don't think he will, no one is dropping out before California in June.

FillJackson
04-18-2016, 09:23 PM
Just to remind folks, in 2008 it was superdelegates that put Obama (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/03/AR2008060304268.html)over the top. His campaign strategy was completely designed around maximizing delegates. In States he thought he would lose, he targeted certain areas where he could pick up delegates.
The insurgent strategy the group devised instead was to virtually cede the most important battlegrounds of the Democratic nomination fight to Clinton, using precision targeting to minimize her delegate hauls, while going all out to crush her in states where Democratic candidates rarely ventured.

The result may have lacked the glamour of a sweep, but last night, with the delegates he picked up in Montana and South Dakota and a flood of superdelegate endorsements, Obama sealed one of the biggest upsets in U.S. political history and became the first Democrat since Jimmy Carter to wrest his party's nomination from the candidate of the party establishment.

Superdelegates put him over the top on June 3 2008 and Clinton conceded the race and endorsed him 4 days later. (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5020581&page=1)
Sen. Hillary Clinton conceded the Democratic nomination to Sen. Barack Obama Saturday in Washington.

"The way to continue our fight now, to accomplish the goals for which we stand, is to take our energy, our passion, our strength, and do all we can to help elect Barack Obama as the next president of the United States," Clinton said.

"Today, as I suspend my campaign, I congratulated him on the victory he has won. ... I endorse him and throw my full support behind him."


[QUOTE]At the time of Hillary Clinton's campaign suspension (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2008) on June 7, 2008, the count was 246

DonDadda59
04-18-2016, 09:24 PM
Voting first thing tomorrow morning. America will not become Castro's Cuba Part Deux on my watch.

Jameerthefear
04-18-2016, 09:36 PM
You live in NY Dadda?

DonDadda59
04-18-2016, 09:38 PM
You live in NY Dadda?

Yup.

FillJackson
04-18-2016, 09:42 PM
In 2008, Obama needed 2,118 delegates to win. He got 2229.5 to Clinton's 1896.5

However in pledged delegates, his lead was under 130, 1766.5 to 1639.5

The rest was from his big lead in superdelegates.
463 to 257

Hawker
04-18-2016, 09:44 PM
Sanders is down by about 200 pleged delegates

How many alt accounts do you have on this website kevin? kevinNYC + filljackson + ???

This question will forever be evaded.

Nanners
04-18-2016, 09:54 PM
This question will forever be evaded.

well im not going to stop asking it as long as he keeps posting here.

what do you think? why would he suddenly quit posting on his kevinnyc account and start posting on filjackson? how many accounts do you think he has? why do you think someone like kevinnyc has multiple accounts in the first place?

Hawker
04-18-2016, 10:10 PM
well im not going to stop asking it as long as he keeps posting here.

what do you think? why would he suddenly quit posting on his kevinnyc account and start posting on filjackson? how many accounts do you think he has? why do you think someone like kevinnyc has multiple accounts in the first place?

I found it strange as well. Out of the blue filljackson starts posting and no reason for the switch. Still the same cheerleader for ___________ (D).

He only has two accounts.

Nanners
04-18-2016, 10:28 PM
I found it strange as well. Out of the blue filljackson starts posting and no reason for the switch. Still the same cheerleader for ___________ (D).

He only has two accounts.

what makes you think he only has two accounts? his filjackson account is 4 years old! its not like he just created it when he stopped posting on kevinnyc, he has had that alt for years.

check out this thread he made on filjackson 3 years ago. he slipped up here and responded as kevin at one point :oldlol:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288549

explain yourself kevin.

Jameerthefear
04-18-2016, 10:30 PM
he mentioned before that he'd have to stop posting on the kevin account for some reason

Nanners
04-18-2016, 10:36 PM
he mentioned before that he'd have to stop posting on the kevin account for some reason

what possible reason could anybody have to abandon one of their accounts and start posting on an alt? the only reason I can think of is trolling, but kevin isnt a troll (at least not in the traditional sense).

9erempiree
04-18-2016, 10:49 PM
what possible reason could anybody have to abandon one of their accounts and start posting on an alt? the only reason I can think of is trolling, but kevin isnt a troll (at least not in the traditional sense).

Most likely there is a thread that incriminates him and it can be easily found so he is posting on an alternate account.

:facepalm @ alternate accounts.

Pathetic.

ALBballer
04-18-2016, 10:55 PM
what possible reason could anybody have to abandon one of their accounts and start posting on an alt? the only reason I can think of is trolling, but kevin isnt a troll (at least not in the traditional sense).

Datinvestigationskills

Just a theory..if KevinNYC indeed works for the Hilary campaign maybe he thinks he posted too much private info about himself on ISH and he uses his alt as a cover.

Now I'm not sure of the purpose of spamming ISH with Hilary posts. Better places on the net where that could be done.

Hawker
04-18-2016, 11:05 PM
what makes you think he only has two accounts? his filjackson account is 4 years old! its not like he just created it when he stopped posting on kevinnyc, he has had that alt for years.

check out this thread he made on filjackson 3 years ago. he slipped up here and responded as kevin at one point :oldlol:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288549

explain yourself kevin.

wtf?

Nice find.

FillJackson
04-18-2016, 11:15 PM
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Im Still Ballin
04-18-2016, 11:22 PM
He took a bet with Chewing and lost..

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 09:17 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgZ5mo8W4AA16d3.jpg:large


Sanders just accused Clinton of violating campaign finance laws. Oddly enough he didn't send this to the Federal Election Commission, his lawyer sent a letter to the DNC and issued a press release. A half hour later they were fundraising off the letter. (https://news.vice.com/article/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-victory-fund-dnc-campaign-finance-rules)


Sanders' campaign sent out an email to supporters shortly after publicly releasing Deutch's letter, working to fundraise off of the concerns. "This should anger EVERYONE," the campaign wrote.

Election Law Blog calls the case legally weak. (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=81996&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+electionlawblog%2FuqCP+%28Ele ction+Law%29)[QUOTE]This letter from Sanders

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 09:18 AM
Trump might have a massive day today.

UK2K
04-19-2016, 09:20 AM
In 2008, Obama needed 2,118 delegates to win. He got 2229.5 to Clinton's 1896.5

However in pledged delegates, his lead was under 130, 1766.5 to 1639.5

The rest was from his big lead in superdelegates.
463 to 257
Lol Democracy.

UK2K
04-19-2016, 09:26 AM
What my queries and research revealed was that Marist, after the knowledge of the Reuters poll showing Bernie pulling ahead nationally by a single point, conducted a poll inside upper-income precincts of New York City, select counties in western New York, and upper New York state. Polling was mostly targeted in the Counties of St. Lawrence and Herkimer (where Hillary won the 2008 primary by 70% in each), Nassau and Suffolk counties (each 62%), Fulton County ( 77%), Orleans county ( 76%), Cattaraugus county ( 69%) and Yates county ( 70%).

In Tompkins county New York, the only county in New York then-candidate Obama won, not a single registered democrat was polled. This has also been the case in almost every county Hillary won in the 08 primary by less than 60%.

Also, apparently, the polling numbers shrank from asking 1600 to 2000 Registered Democrats to 500 to 600. On top of that, CNN (owned by Time-Warner, one of the top ten corporate contributors to the Hillary Clinton campaign), the Wall Street Journal, and Marist are only polling Registered Democrats from LAST year, not polling newly registered democrats that have been brought in to the democratic party by Bernie Sanders.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/16/1516313/-There-s-Something-Rotten-in-the-State-of-New-York

Interesting article on how 'polling sites' suddenly had very different results all of a sudden, and how those sites manipulated the parameters and polling base of their poll in order to make it appear that Clinton has NY wrapped up.

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 09:51 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/16/1516313/-There-s-Something-Rotten-in-the-State-of-New-York

Interesting article on how 'polling sites' suddenly had very different results all of a sudden, and how those sites manipulated the parameters and polling base of their poll in order to make it appear that Clinton has NY wrapped up.
You're reading dailykos these days?

We'll know by 10PM if this guy's suspicion is right, but he leaves out the fact that Hillary won the 2008 primary by big numbers, so it wouldn't be unusual to find counties she won big.


Hillary Clinton 1,068,496 57.37%
Barack Obama 751,019 40.32%

UK2K
04-19-2016, 09:54 AM
You're reading dailykos these days?

We'll know by 10PM if this guy's suspicion is right, but he leaves out the fact that Hillary won the 2008 primary by big numbers, so it wouldn't be unusual to find counties she won big.


Hillary Clinton 1,068,496 57.37%
Barack Obama 751,019 40.32%

Just coincidence then I guess:


out of 62 counties in New York, polling was mostly conducted in certain upper-income residential areas plus 12 counties, and only counties where Hillary had won the 2008 primary by at least 60% of the vote. The average that Hillary won those recently polled counties in 2008 was 65.7%...

I read everything but HuffPo

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 10:06 AM
Karl Rove's group is once again promoting Bernie Sanders (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-18/despite-polls-republicans-see-sanders-as-an-easier-opponent), other GOP folk anxious to see Bernie as the nominee.


prominent Republican operatives are chomping at the bit to face Sanders, a U.S. senator from Vermont and self-described democratic socialist, in the general election, believing he'd be an easier opponent than the former first lady, U.S. senator and secretary of state.
“Republicans are being nice to Bernie Sanders because we like the thought of running against a socialist. But if he were to win the nomination the knives would come out for Bernie pretty quick,” said Ryan Williams, a former spokesman for 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney's campaign. “There's no mystery what the attack on him would be. Bernie Sanders is literally a card carrying socialist who honeymooned in the Soviet Union. There'd be hundreds of millions of dollars in Republican ads showing hammers and sickles and Soviet Union flags in front of Bernie Sanders.”
“Hillary Clinton is a much more centrist candidate in comparison,” Williams said, and she would have a better chance of winning over moderate and undecided voters, despite numerous polls showing that many Americans, even in the Democratic Party, don't view her as honest and trustworthy. “Bernie's numbers are better than hers right now because she's been in the political arena for 30 years getting beat up,” he said.

....

“Her negatives are set in. There's no American out there who doesn't have a definite opinion on Hillary Clinton,” Heye said. “That's just not the case with Bernie.

Railgun
04-19-2016, 10:14 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/16/1516313/-There-s-Something-Rotten-in-the-State-of-New-York

Interesting article on how 'polling sites' suddenly had very different results all of a sudden, and how those sites manipulated the parameters and polling base of their poll in order to make it appear that Clinton has NY wrapped up.
Okay buddy :oldlol: When Clinton wins by 10-15 maybe you'll shut up.

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 10:25 AM
On the Republican side
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgaVSNDWQAEZrgt.jpg

UK2K
04-19-2016, 11:18 AM
Okay buddy :oldlol: When Clinton wins by 10-15 maybe you'll shut up.

She should, its her state. I don't particularly care who wins on the Democrat side, I just thought the article did a good job of pointing out how media influences voters.

I guess you disagree though. The media is not biased. :oldlol:

KyrieTheFuture
04-19-2016, 01:54 PM
Most likely there is a thread that incriminates him and it can be easily found so he is posting on an alternate account.

:facepalm @ alternate accounts.

Pathetic.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Nice try

DonDadda59
04-19-2016, 04:41 PM
http://image.silive.com/home/silive-media/width620/img/latest_news/photo/19117071-mmmain.jpeg

RIP La Revolucion. RIP Fidel.

bladefd
04-19-2016, 04:43 PM
As much as I believe we need a big change in money in politics with Bernie, I believe it will be either:

1) Trump vs Clinton
or
2) Clinton vs split party with Trump as independent

Still, imagine if Bernie wins tonight... will be flipping the rich turds from huge corporations blowing millions on their bottoms :roll: I want Bernie to win today and to see the reaction of Wall Street. Trust me when I say they would freak out :pimp:

BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! :cheers:

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 06:19 PM
In my district you voted for the candidate and up to seven delegates. Bernie wasn't even fielding a full slate of delegates. This is in a fairly liberal section of Brooklyn. Not far from Bernie had his big Brooklyn rally.

Andrew Wiggins
04-19-2016, 06:27 PM
why does filljackson keep ducking everyone calling him kevinnyc?

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 07:00 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/16/1516313/-There-s-Something-Rotten-in-the-State-of-New-York

Interesting article on how 'polling sites' suddenly had very different results all of a sudden, and how those sites manipulated the parameters and polling base of their poll in order to make it appear that Clinton has NY wrapped up.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/19/1517456/-The-Daily-Kos-Elections-guide-to-the-New-York-primary

There is good deep dive on the ny election on dailykos. It won't until 10pm until there are enough returns to talk meaningfully.

Also your link is referenced in the comments.[QUOTE]I'd strongly suggest the diarist read a couple of posts from this blog, particularly HERE and HERE. (Posts were published yesterday, and today. Their author points out some pretty stunning details regarding bias/improper data/analysis of virtually all of the recent NY State primary polls.) Personally, I believe--regardless of who wins

Nanners
04-19-2016, 07:16 PM
How many alt accounts do you have on this website kevin?

KevinNYC + Filljackson + ???

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 08:09 PM
There's also going to be a lawsuit about NY Election Laws. Hearing is today. Trying to force an open primary


ALBANY - A federal judge denied a long-shot bid for an immediate order allowing independent voters to participate in New York's presidential primaries Tuesday, but the underlying lawsuit will proceed later this month.

U.S. District Judge Joanna Seybert of Long Island on Tuesday rejected a request for a temporary restraining order that would have allowed all voters to cast a ballot in Tuesday's primaries, regardless of party affiliation.

NY is like the 12th closed primary on the Democratic side this year. 11 of the remaining primaries are closed primaries, wonder if they are going to try this in every one of those.

Bernie's won like 7 of closed primaries/caucuses.

dude77
04-19-2016, 09:19 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/VJ2B0I6t2HEUE/giphy.gif

Trollsmasher
04-19-2016, 09:52 PM
Trump losing Manhattan to Kasich's banker bros:lol

DonDadda59
04-19-2016, 09:56 PM
Trump losing Manhattan to Kasich's banker bros:lol

Drumpf probably still owes them money (http://fortune.com/2016/03/23/donald-trump-debt/)

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 10:25 PM
Apparently Bernie flew back to Vermont tonight. Interesting.

DonDadda59
04-19-2016, 10:35 PM
Apparently Bernie flew back to Vermont tonight. Interesting.

Going back to his safe space.

Draz
04-19-2016, 10:45 PM
dam dassit

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 10:51 PM
Got to give him credit. Sanders campaign manager went on MSNBC to talk how Bernie gets the nomination. Not an easy task tonight. Still pinning their hopes on California. .......OK just went off the rails. He claims if after June 7, Bernie is not leading in the popular vote AND not leading in the pledged delegates, he still should be considered for the nomination at the convention. Wow. He basically said Bernie's going to run the table on remaning states.

Here's 538 on the delegate math.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cgc4ZYYWsAERn3E.jpg

Here's the video
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/722620400329469952

Nick Young
04-19-2016, 10:52 PM
RIP Comrade Bernie

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 11:09 PM
‏@DavidCornDC
On MSNBC, Weaver says campaign (if behind) will spend June/July trying to flip super-Ds to BS rather than unite behind HRC.

Trollsmasher
04-19-2016, 11:17 PM
‏@DavidCornDC
On MSNBC, Weaver says campaign (if behind) will spend June/July trying to flip super-Ds to BS rather than unite behind HRC.
good guy Bernie helping to MAGA:rockon:

DeuceWallaces
04-19-2016, 11:20 PM
Lol sad Cruz got ****ed up.

FillJackson
04-19-2016, 11:32 PM
Quote:
What my queries and research revealed was that Marist, after the knowledge of the Reuters poll showing Bernie pulling ahead nationally by a single point, conducted a poll inside upper-income precincts of New York City, select counties in western New York, and upper New York state. Polling was mostly targeted in the Counties of St. Lawrence and Herkimer (where Hillary won the 2008 primary by 70% in each), Nassau and Suffolk counties (each 62%), Fulton County ( 77%), Orleans county ( 76%), Cattaraugus county ( 69%) and Yates county ( 70%).

In Tompkins county New York, the only county in New York then-candidate Obama won, not a single registered democrat was polled. This has also been the case in almost every county Hillary won in the 08 primary by less than 60%.

Also, apparently, the polling numbers shrank from asking 1600 to 2000 Registered Democrats to 500 to 600. On top of that, CNN (owned by Time-Warner, one of the top ten corporate contributors to the Hillary Clinton campaign), the Wall Street Journal, and Marist are only polling Registered Democrats from LAST year, not polling newly registered democrats that have been brought in to the democratic party by Bernie Sanders.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/16/1516313/-There-s-Something-Rotten-in-the-State-of-New-York

Interesting article on how 'polling sites' suddenly had very different results all of a sudden, and how those sites manipulated the parameters and polling base of their poll in order to make it appear that Clinton has NY wrapped up.

Once again the biased Mainstream Media was pretty on the money.

Here are the polling averages......from the mainstream polls. Each of these have a slightly different model

Pollster
Hillary Clinton 54.6%
Bernie Sanders 41.6%

RCP
Clinton +11.7

538
Projected results
CLINTON
55.5%
SANDERS
42.0%

The polls showed Clinton doing well because she was on her way to a solid double digit win.


The piece I linked to gave you the straight dope.

The polls so far have shown a very consistent Clinton lead in a 10-15 point range on the Democratic side; the only pollster that has seen this as a single-digit race has been Republican internal pollster Gravis (twice, including last week).

FillJackson
04-20-2016, 07:12 AM
Clinton has been winning the big states. 3 of top 12 are still to come. 7-2 in the remaining 9. Washington was the only one she lost big.

California
New York
Texas
Florida
Pennsylvania
Illinois
Ohio
Michigan
New Jersey
North Carolina
Georgia
Washington

NumberSix
04-20-2016, 09:06 AM
Can we finally stop pretending that Bernie Sanders is a real candidate?

Draz
04-20-2016, 09:37 AM
Donating another $50 to this machine we call Hillary

NumberSix
04-20-2016, 09:42 AM
Lol. Comrade Bernie wants to raise everybody's taxes, but somehow him and his wife managed to only pay 13% tax on their $205k income last year.

FillJackson
04-20-2016, 06:22 PM
Trump did quite well in NY. One of the few places he didn't win was his neighborhood. If you use this tool and enter "Trump Tower" you'll find he didn't win his block either.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/19/us/elections/new-york-city-republican-primary-results.html#10/40.6442/-73.9977

538 has Trump 95% on target for 1237. If he gets big wins going forward he reach it.


AP Story on the Democratic race

Hillary Clinton can lose every remaining primary in the coming weeks and still clinch the nomination. (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/403a40eb00ee467a87e84b0c4800712b/superdelegates-put-clinton-path-clinch-calif)

With Clinton's double-digit win in New York and more than two dozen new superdelegates joining her camp, rival Bernie Sanders now faces a far steeper path.

Before New York's contest, Sanders needed to win 68 percent of remaining delegates and uncommitted superdelegates to catch Clinton.

Now to capture the nomination, Sanders must win 73 percent. That means that Clinton can lose all remaining contests and still win. The campaign shifts to primaries Tuesday in Pennsylvania, Maryland, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Delaware.

"He will be out of real estate on Tuesday night even if these states are all close, even if he wins a couple, even if we win three," said Clinton senior strategist Joel Benenson. "He's got to win them big, he's got to win them by landslide and I don't see that happening."

If Clinton does as well as expected in next week's primaries, she's on track to clinch the nomination with help from superdelegates, the party insiders who can back either candidate, on June 7.

Based on primaries and caucuses alone, the latest AP delegate count, including New York, shows that Clinton leads by 1,428 to 1,151.

Including superdelegates, the race stands at 1,930 to 1,189, for Clinton. She needs just 27 percent of the remaining delegates and uncommitted superdelegates to reach the magic number, 2,383.

FillJackson
04-20-2016, 06:26 PM
The Presidential election isn't the only election this year. Republicans, especially ones up for election, are skipping the convention. (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-20/to-go-or-not-to-go-republicans-face-trump-convention-dilemma)


At least four top Republican U.S. senators say they’ve decided to skip July’s party nominating convention in Cleveland to campaign in their home states. Several others say they haven’t decided whether they’ll make the trip, and at least one will boycott the event if Donald Trump emerges as the Republicans’ presidential pick.
This year’s convention is shaping up as perhaps the party’s most pivotal -- and contentious -- in a generation, but Senate Republicans appear increasingly nervous about it. Many in the party are agonizing over the possible elevation of Trump or a contested convention that awards the nomination to someone else, either of which risks damaging the party and handing Senate control to Democrats.

Draz
04-20-2016, 06:28 PM
Trump did quite well in NY. One of the few places he didn't win was his neighborhood. If you use this tool and enter "Trump Tower" you'll find he didn't win his block either.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/19/us/elections/new-york-city-republican-primary-results.html#10/40.6442/-73.9977

538 has Trump 95% on target for 1237. If he gets big wins going forward he reach it.


AP Story on the Democratic race
Thanks for the updates bro.

Draz
04-20-2016, 06:29 PM
The Presidential election isn't the only election this year. Republicans, especially ones up for election, are skipping the convention. (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-20/to-go-or-not-to-go-republicans-face-trump-convention-dilemma)

Yup. Hopefully there's a power shift. Those conservative fckboys need to fall apart.

poido123
04-20-2016, 07:05 PM
Looks like Trump v Hillary, which the betting has reflected all along.


Trump will have some good dirt on that woman. They have known each other for years.

Nick Young
04-20-2016, 07:09 PM
Trump is like the 07 Warriors to Hillary being the 07 Mavericks.

Jameerthefear
04-20-2016, 07:31 PM
hillary really got lucky. she's playing against a bunch of scrubs. trump is going to lose very badly.

FillJackson
04-21-2016, 09:38 AM
Folks are pointing out there is a split in the Sanders camp on the endgame.

Upthread, I pointed to the video where the Sanders campaign manager was pretending they were going to sweep all the rest of the states and win virtually all of CA to jump into the lead. He then even said, they would fight to win superdelegates even if they were behind in the popular vote and behind in pledged delegates.

The top Sanders Strategist is not endorsing that.


The end is coming: A top Sanders adviser hints at a quiet finish

There’s a whole lot of hand-wringing among Democrats right now over Bernie Sanders’s vow to keep on trying to flip super-delegates even if he continues to trail badly in the popular vote and pledged delegate count — a quest that, he says, could spill on to the convention floor in Philadelphia in July. Both Sanders himself and his campaign manager Jeff Weaver have rattled this saber.

But now senior Sanders adviser Tad Devine has telegraphed a much more likely endgame — one that would be a whole lot quieter and less contentious. In an interview with Rachel Maddow, Devine was asked whether this strategy is in sync with Sanders’s high-minded campaign, and he answered, in part:


“The key test is succeeding with voters. In 2008 I wrote a piece that they published in the New York Times right after Super Tuesday, and I argued that super-delegates should wait, should look and listen to what the voters do, and follow the will of the voters. And I can tell you, I got a lot of push-back from the Clinton campaign at the time, when I published that piece.

“But I believe that today — that our super-delegates, that our party leaders, should let the voters speak first. And I think if they do, all the way through the end of the voting, that will strengthen our party, and certainly strengthen our hand — if we succeed with voters between now and June.”

Note that “if.” In one sense, Devine is basically calling on Democrats to be patient and allow the voting to continue until the end. (I’ve argued that there are many good reasons for Sanders to keep going until all the votes have been counted.) But Devine is also clearly indicating that the super-delegates should not contradict the will of the voters, once they’ve all had a chance to speak.

So they agree on going to June, but disagree on how to play out the end.


Also note that the revolution is being run by a guy named Tad.

FillJackson
04-21-2016, 09:43 AM
Another thing Tad Devine notes is the delegate process from caucus states is still ongoing and the number from election night can and do change by the time everything is said and done.

FillJackson
04-23-2016, 06:53 PM
April 26th
Then a week from Tuesday another 384 delegates and 78 super delegates up for grabs in
3 days

Predictions
Rhode Island. Bernie 59%
Pennsylvania. Hillary 54%
Delaware Hillary 59%
Connectict Hillary 53%
Maryland Hillary 63%

FillJackson
04-25-2016, 10:11 PM
With 5 states voting tomorrow, Bernie seems to be hinting about pulling this in for a landing. He was on a town hall on MSNBC today. Here's the beginning and the article they wrote.


Bernie Sanders Admits He's Unlikely to Flip Superdelegates

Bernie Sanders conceded at an MSNBC town hall on Monday that he faces narrow odds in convincing super delegates to switch their allegiances from the Democratic presidential front-runner, and instead hand him the nomination.

"At the end of the process, frankly, if we are behind in the pledged delegates, I think it's very hard for us to win," Sanders said to MSNBC's Chris Hayes in Philadelphia.

......
When asked if he were to galvanize the movement to participate in the general election, regardless of whether he was the Democratic nominee, Sanders said the onus was on Clinton to win over his supporters.

"I think that most Democrats out there, more than anything, correctly so, want to make sure that some right wing Republican doesn't become president of the United States," Sanders said.

FillJackson
04-26-2016, 04:33 PM
I-95 primary. Polls close for all five states at 8 pm Eastern.

For both parties, this will be the biggest single-day delegate haul until June 7, the last major day of voting.

I think the last time any of these states went Republican was for Bush in 1988

FillJackson
04-26-2016, 11:52 PM
With 5 states voting tomorrow, Bernie seems to be hinting about pulling this in for a landing.

The Sanders campaign put out the following statement that folks are pointing to an acknowledgement that he is not going to be nominee and the goal now is to fight for to influence the party.

[QUOTE]I congratulate Secretary Clinton on her victories tonight, and I look forward to issue-oriented campaigns in the 14 contests to come.

I am proud that we were able to win a resounding victory tonight in Rhode Island, the one state with an open primary where independents had a say in the outcome. Democrats should recognize that the ticket with the best chance of winning this November must attract support from independents as well as Democrats. I am proud of my campaign

FillJackson
04-26-2016, 11:54 PM
Easily Trump's biggest night tonight. Easily a majority in every state. Tonight was all states that vote Democratic in the general election, so probably not typical Republican voters. More Catholic, less evangelical up here.

FillJackson
04-27-2016, 12:03 AM
Predictions
Rhode Island. Bernie 59%
Pennsylvania. Hillary 54%
Delaware Hillary 59%
Connectict Hillary 53%
Maryland Hillary 63%


Actual results
Rhode Island. Bernie 55%
Pennsylvania. Hillary 56%
Delaware Hillary 60%
Connectict Hillary 52%
Maryland Hillary 63%