3 black teen girls steal a car and die crashing into a pond.

[nathanjizzle]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=04c_1461110710
http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/125715923-story

http://static.lakana.com/media.fox13news.com/photo/2016/04/18/drownings%205_1461033836500_1195922_ver1.0_640_360 .jpg
But the moms will blame the cops. :biggums:

[nathanjizzle]

Darwinism

bad parenting for the most part.

[warriorfan]

those girls fat as f uck you think they would be able to float

[Nilocon165]

Idiots

[oh the horror]

The only issue is apparently from the liveleak story that the sheriff claimed they tried to jump in but the actual video doesn't show that?


Outside of that I'm not entirely sure how much could have been done. Car is sinking, and given pressure and such I don't know man. That's a bummer.

[Velocirap31]

The police aren't required to save criminals from their own mishaps. My sympathy is low.

[AceManIII]

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[dazzer87]

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we have 3 winners here.....

[AceManIII]

we have 3 winners here.....

Those kids were f***ed up...no WAY can the parents blame the cops. Grandmother probably feels guilty because she convinced the father of one of the girls (Daniya) to stay with her and the child is dead now. Two of the kids were basically runaways.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/three-friends-killed-when-car-plunged-into-pond-remembered-at-vigil-in-st/2271727

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/st-petersburg-family-mourns-girl-15-who-drowned-with-two-other-teens-in/2271639

[UK2K]

Oh well.

:confusedshrug:

[~primetime~]

how can you even fathom blaming the police?

are they supposed to allow stolen cars to carry on and not chase them?

dude this country is becoming a joke towards crime and police.

if you want to stay out of danger don't commit crimes and put yourself in the crosshairs of police it's that ****ing simple. why are we giving criminals more power, benefits of the doubts, and antagonizing cops trying to keep our towns safe? shits so backwards
This

Any time someone resists arrests they should understand they are putting their lives at risk. If a cop is chasing you then pull over, if a cop tells you to put your hands in the air then do that...just do what they say and question them later. Don't question things in the moment, questioning the police in the heat of the moment is putting yourself at risk...question them after the dust settles.

[bluechox2]

ugly as s mugs

[rezznor]

why would the cops risk their lives to dive into a dark pond in the middle of the night . this happened in florida, there's a decent chance there could be gators in there. **** that shit, the criminals shouldn't have ran.

[senelcoolidge]

You commit crime you run the risk of death..that's it. It's their fault.

[oh the horror]

why would the cops risk their lives to dive into a dark pond in the middle of the night . this happened in florida, there's a decent chance there could be gators in there. **** that shit, the criminals shouldn't have ran.



And even if they did, what can they do? As you said this is pitch black obviously from the video and the car from how it sounds sunk pretty fast. Given water pressure on the closed doors there's just not much to be done there.

[Bosnian Sajo]

DA BURG!! 727 WE MADE IT! :bowdown:





Poor girls, must be a terrifying way to die, but you can't blame the police. What were they supposed to do? If the girls couldn't open the doors from the inside, what makes you think the cops could from the outside?


That's scary as hell though, car sinking and you can't open the door....damn. If you ever in that situation, open your windows while you droppin lol. Would that even help or would the car just sink faster? :oldlol:

[Edgar Friendly]

I'm only GTAing convertibles from now on.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jlgr7v03os

[90sgoat]

http://www.pcsoweb.com/Data/Sites/1/media/miller_laniya.jpg

This girl looked like a nice enough girl, cute, got involved in bad company, rip.

Life is too cheap in black America, how can people claim there isn't a problem of culture, a lot of these people just don't see crime as being crime, just a part of everyday life. How else do you rack up such rap sheets at young age and no one stops them? Once ok, just teens making mistakes, but again and again, then something is rotten.

[BigNBAfan]

crime will drop in that city

[Gilles Simon]

RIP Laniya D. Miller. Beautiful girl.

[stalkerforlife]

Kind of surprised the cops just stood by and let them drown.

I'm not blaming them for the deaths, but they did seem kind of relaxed.

[nathanjizzle]

And even if they did, what can they do? As you said this is pitch black obviously from the video and the car from how it sounds sunk pretty fast. Given water pressure on the closed doors there's just not much to be done there.

many people have died trying to save concious drowning people because they themselves are being pulled down into the water by the person being drowned.

[nathanjizzle]

This girl looked like a nice enough girl, cute, got involved in bad company, rip.

Life is too cheap in black America, how can people claim there isn't a problem of culture, a lot of these people just don't see crime as being crime, just a part of everyday life. How else do you rack up such rap sheets at young age and no one stops them? Once ok, just teens making mistakes, but again and again, then something is rotten.

shes a good girl that got caught up with the wrong people. all of them are good girls, their parents and community failed them tremendously.

[90sgoat]

shes a good girl that got caught up with the wrong people. all of them are good girls, their parents and community failed them tremendously.

No, you're not a good person if you steal repeatedly and particularly not if you rob or use violence.

We might be born innocent, but doing wrong acts damages you and some things there are no coming back from.

Each misdeed we do, we get worse as persons, our soul gets tainted a little bit and if you do enough bad things, then you're a bad person, the end.

Just no one tells these kids that, they seem to think it doesn't matter if you steal and rob.

[oh the horror]

No, you're not a good person if you steal repeatedly and particularly not if you rob or use violence.

We might be born innocent, but doing wrong acts damages you and some things there are no coming back from.

Each misdeed we do, we get worse as persons, our soul gets tainted a little bit and if you do enough bad things, then you're a bad person, the end.

Just no one tells these kids that, they seem to think it doesn't matter if you steal and rob.



You believe there's no rehabilitation for a misguided kid at 15?

[KNOW1EDGE]

If the cops didn't chase them all 3 girls would still be alive today.

Black lives mattet.

[KNOW1EDGE]

crime will drop in that city

3 less criminals on the streets

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Every single person in this thread (including myself) is ignorant of a higher, more refined morality and is, unfortunately, likely to feel the same way as these chicks will in a different sense, later in life.

[COnDEMnED]

Manifest destiny. No real loss. Probably saved taxpayers tons of money.

[iamgine]

A deputy first spotted he girls on Sunset Point Road near U.S. 19 in the early morning hours of March 31st. The car didn't have its headlights on.

The deputy activated lights and siren, but dash cam video shows the teens kept driving on. The deputy did not pursue them, even after seeing them go through a stoplight.

When another deputy saw the vehicle and confirmed it had been stolen, they followed behind at a distance. The dash cam video is very important because lawyers representing two of the girls' mothers have accused deputies of chasing them into the pond at Royal Palm Cemetery in St. Petersburg.





And that is wrong because....

[90sgoat]

You believe there's no rehabilitation for a misguided kid at 15?

The last girl who 'only' stole a car yes, the other ones who did robbery and assault, no.

If you are capable of assault and robbery at 15 then you're a lost case, it means your genes are ****ed up, you are sociopathic lacking empathy and impulse control.

This is the case with a large part of the black community, a lot of kids with really poor self control genes and empathy, because their fathers are thugs and their mothers want thugs too, so over time they breed these thug qualities.

Europe used to be really violent too in the middle ages, but over a period of 500 years, really harsh punishment was used against sociopathic people, they got hanged for murder, they got whipped and beaten, killed for stealing, which over time led to those genes being removed from the white gene pool.

[UK2K]

A deputy first spotted he girls on Sunset Point Road near U.S. 19 in the early morning hours of March 31st. The car didn't have its headlights on.

The deputy activated lights and siren, but dash cam video shows the teens kept driving on. The deputy did not pursue them, even after seeing them go through a stoplight.

When another deputy saw the vehicle and confirmed it had been stolen, they followed behind at a distance. The dash cam video is very important because lawyers representing two of the girls' mothers have accused deputies of chasing them into the pond at Royal Palm Cemetery in St. Petersburg.





And that is wrong because....
Cops don't want to chase you ANYWHERE.

Fact is, had they just stopped like normal people, they'd be alive right now. Oh well. Won't see me she'd a tear.

[UK2K]

DA BURG!! 727 WE MADE IT! :bowdown:





Poor girls, must be a terrifying way to die, but you can't blame the police. What were they supposed to do? If the girls couldn't open the doors from the inside, what makes you think the cops could from the outside?


That's scary as hell though, car sinking and you can't open the door....damn. If you ever in that situation, open your windows while you droppin lol. Would that even help or would the car just sink faster? :oldlol:
You want it to sink faster.

The sooner the pressure inside the car matches the pressure outside the car, the sooner you can open the door.

[gigantes]

i don't understand how people seem to drown so easily in these situations.

i mean, once the interior is almost full, you can take a breath, open the door, and swim to the surface.

of course that's assuming you're not too injured or drunk. but you'd think at least one or more out of a group would sometimes be able to pull this off. instead, it seems more usual for the whole group to drown every time.

[senelcoolidge]

People probably panic..it's just a matter of seconds to a couple minutes before your engulfed in water. Some people are probably inebriated, alcohol, weed, other drugs. Some form of altered mental status.

[gigantes]

Wouldn't the pressure of the water hold the doors shut? Its hard enough trying to open a door when someones leaning on it from the outside, i can only imagine the strength needed to push against thousands of tonnes of water (Superman level). I think the smarter idea would be too roll down the windows.
if the power system's failed then it's going to be pretty hard to open power windows, i think.

but if the interior is almost full of water then the pressure should be about equal, no? at that point the door should open without a huge effort. you could even add force by bracing yourself against the edge of the seat, a closed seatbelt, the area between the seats, or even the opposite door (with your feet) if you don't have a person next to you.

maybe people in these situations get rattled by the crash and then go in to shock / panic mode and their brains sort of shut down. while the pressure difference is too great, they probably spend most of their strength frantically trying to open the doors and windows... then when it's actually possible to open the door, maybe they've gulped too much water and used up too much energy.

sad... because as dangerous situations go, this one should be one of the simplest to get out of with a cool head.

[Bigsmoke]

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the rap sheet from these bitches and two were born in this millennium . :biggums:


I'm not going celebrate on behalf of peoples demise but the world is a better player without them :confusedshrug:

[Bigsmoke]

they died at a cemetery :biggums:

[rezznor]

if the power system's failed then it's going to be pretty hard to open power windows, i think.

but if the interior is almost full of water then the pressure should be about equal, no? at that point the door should open without a huge effort. you could even add force by bracing yourself against the edge of the seat, a closed seatbelt, the area between the seats, or even the opposite door (with your feet) if you don't have a person next to you.

maybe people in these situations get rattled by the crash and then go in to shock / panic mode and their brains sort of shut down. while the pressure difference is too great, they probably spend most of their strength frantically trying to open the doors and windows... then when it's actually possible to open the door, maybe they've gulped too much water and used up too much energy.

sad... because as dangerous situations go, this one should be one of the simplest to get out of with a cool head.

what about the door locks though? most modern cars have automatic locks so wouldn't the locks be shorted out so they people can't open the doors even with equal pressure?

over here in houston 8 people have drowned in their cars from this week's storms.

[rezznor]

http://www.amazon.com/LifeHammer-Original-Emergency-Hammer-Orange/dp/B000BN3A4Y

get one of these for you and your loved ones and leave it in the glove compartment.

[rezznor]

And even if they did, what can they do? As you said this is pitch black obviously from the video and the car from how it sounds sunk pretty fast. Given water pressure on the closed doors there's just not much to be done there.
yup it's not like the movies where the hero dives in and rescues someone. not gonna be able to see shit in that water.


here's dashcam of a woman who drove into a flooded underpass monday and drowned in houston. a witness tried to dive in twice to save her but couldn't get her out.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-flooding-evacuations-continue-in-houston/

http://www.khou.com/news/local/raw-video/westpark-tollway-dash-cam/143798470

[rezznor]

If the cops didn't chase them all 3 girls would still be alive today.

Black lives mattet.

how about:



if these girls didn't steal a car then the cops wouldn't have chased them

or even:


if the cops didn't chase them then there would be more crimes committed by these girls in the near future.

[warriorfan]

Kick out the side window or windshield

[gigantes]

what about the door locks though? most modern cars have automatic locks so wouldn't the locks be shorted out so they people can't open the doors even with equal pressure?

over here in houston 8 people have drowned in their cars from this week's storms.

http://www.amazon.com/LifeHammer-Original-Emergency-Hammer-Orange/dp/B000BN3A4Y

get one of these for you and your loved ones and leave it in the glove compartment.
good point, good point. i guess it depends on the model of the car.

i've seen plenty of models in which you can open the power lock either manually or automatically, but also models in which the lock pin drops in to a hole in order to make the car harder to steal.

OTOH it seems like groups of people have been drowning in cars from before the time of theft-proof power locks. i almost want to try this situation out to clear up the mystery. :P

[Derka]

Absolute waste of three young lives, no matter how long their rap sheets. The damn girls didn't deserve to drown.

That being said, I have no idea what the police officers were supposed to do here once that car went in the water. Life is not a goddamn movie where the hero saves the day in situations like this. Those girls were doomed the moment they hit the water.

Even under the absolute ideal of circumstances, car doors are insanely hard to open underwater, especially if the electronically-controlled locks are shorted out. Guns don't fire underwater so you're not shooting out the windows (and possibly shooting three unarmed teenagers in the process) and I don't know if you've ever tried to hit a piece of auto glass with enough force to break it with your hand or foot, but when you have water acting in opposition to that force it gets even more unlikely that you're going to punch/kick a window out.

[Edgar Friendly]

If it had just been water pressing in the doors they probably would have got out. It looked like once it started sinking soft mud started forming up over the car like quicksand

[UK2K]

Absolute waste of three young lives, no matter how long their rap sheets. The damn girls didn't deserve to drown.

That being said, I have no idea what the police officers were supposed to do here once that car went in the water. Life is not a goddamn movie where the hero saves the day in situations like this. Those girls were doomed the moment they hit the water.

Even under the absolute ideal of circumstances, car doors are insanely hard to open underwater, especially if the electronically-controlled locks are shorted out. Guns don't fire underwater so you're not shooting out the windows (and possibly shooting three unarmed teenagers in the process) and I don't know if you've ever tried to hit a piece of auto glass with enough force to break it with your hand or foot, but when you have water acting in opposition to that force it gets even more unlikely that you're going to punch/kick a window out.

They didn't have to, but they chose to.

[TheMan]

Looking at the bright side, at least these three won't be producing more thugs.

[rezznor]

Unfortunately, some people are irresponsibly and falsely posting on Facebook that deputies did not attempt to rescue the 3 girls who tragically drowned while fleeing from the police in a stolen car a few weeks ago.

The sheriff stated at the time that deputies removed their gun belts and clothes and tried to enter the water to rescue the girls, but the conditions in the water prevented them from doing so. This is exactly what happened, and we stand by that.

All video regarding the incident has been released, including the below clip that shows deputies who had taken off their duty gear in an effort to rescue the girls. The other video being shown omits this part that shows deputies who had entered the water in their effort to rescue the girls..,

[keep-itreal]

those girls fat as f uck you think they would be able to float
:roll:

[NumberSix]

Absolute waste of three young lives, no matter how long their rap sheets. The damn girls didn't deserve to drown.
"Deserve" has nothing to do with it. If you drive a car into a lake, you're probably going to drown. The water doesn't have a consciousness that decides if you deserve it or not.

[Bigsmoke]

Kick out the side window or windshield


I don't think it's that easy

https://youtu.be/2YaMEW30bv4

[Overdrive]

I don't think it's that easy

https://youtu.be/2YaMEW30bv4

Best bet is opening the windows before the water is at window level and trying to get out. If that doesn't work the car atleast fills up faster and you can open the door sooner.

[nathanjizzle]

please factor in that these girls most likely did not know how to swim.

[Bigsmoke]

Best bet is opening the windows before the water is at window level and trying to get out. If that doesn't work the car atleast fills up faster and you can open the door sooner.

Everything happened in a split second. I'm sure they didn't go over how to survive crashing into a pond before carjacking.

[Bigsmoke]

Talking about rolling down windows is all when good, but no ones even asked the obvious question - Are we sure these fatties could fit through a car window?

If u click on that video Ive posted, u saw the water rapidly entered the car while it was easing in that swimming pool


Now imagine that thing diving in that shit while going 50 or whatever mph at night? Surviving that shit is easier said than done.

[highwhey]

This is why I hate cops, they're stupid. I hope they feel guilty for drowning these poor souls, r.i.p my queens.

[LBJFTW]

This is why I love cops.

Let darwin do work and rid us of these worthless beings that don't deserve to breathe the same air as us.

[highwhey]

I'm going to start a Gofund me page to start a scholarship fund named after these 3 brave souls.

[nathanjizzle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZkDSXmhQe0

[Overdrive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZkDSXmhQe0

What I don't get is: Why is it even an issue? Are policemen required to jump into water in the dark?

btw usually I share the stance, that shooting prematurely and killing suspects is stupid, etc etc, but this "journalist" wouldn't give two shits if those girls would've been white - those idiots are just as racists as some people they accuse of being it.

[nathanjizzle]

What I don't get is: Why is it even an issue? Are policemen required to jump into water in the dark?

i dont know man. i think the attempt was lackluster for policemen who are suppose to put themselves in danger to protect civilians. if those girls were any of those officers daughters, i bet all of them would have jumped in and tried to do something. thats what you should expect. If you are an officer that is sworn by oath to protect and serve and you come up short like that, then you arent trying hard enough, and perhaps should hand over the badge to men that are willing to do the job.

[highwhey]

What I don't get is: Why is it even an issue? Are policemen required to jump into water in the dark?

btw usually I share the stance, that shooting prematurely and killing suspects is stupid, etc etc, but this "journalist" wouldn't give two shits if those girls would've been white - those idiots are just as racists as some people they accuse of being it.
I gurantee you those police officers would jump into the water to shoot them
If they were young black males. The officers would then claim self-defense because the young black males tried drowing the officers.

You don't know how racists some police men can be. They will arrest you or shoot you on sight.

[NumberSix]

I gurantee you those police officers would jump into the water to shoot them
If they were young black males. The officers would then claim self-defense because the young black males tried drowing the officers.

You don't know how racists some police men can be. They will arrest you or shoot you on sight.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bigsmoke]

i dont know man. i think the attempt was lackluster for policemen who are suppose to put themselves in danger to protect civilians. if those girls were any of those officers daughters, i bet all of them would have jumped in and tried to do something. thats what you should expect. If you are an officer that is sworn by oath to protect and serve and you come up short like that, then you arent trying hard enough, and perhaps should hand over the badge to men that are willing to do the job.

U think the cops all carry swimming gear and diving cylinders in their vehicles? That's what really needed in these situations.

This shit happened at night at that. Who the **** would jump in that?

[NumberSix]

U think the cops all carry swimming gear and diving cylinders in their vehicles? That's what really needed in these situations.

This shit happened at night at that. Who the **** would jump in that?
The ones who aren't racist do.

[nathanjizzle]

U think the cops all carry swimming gear and diving cylinders in their vehicles? That's what really needed in these situations.

This shit happened at night at that. Who the **** would jump in that?

I would have. think about it like this. if these girls wernt in a stolen car, they were just 3 regular white girls that drove into the pond. and you are a bystander that saw it and called 911 and they happen to miraculously show up 3 seconds later, but they decide they arent going to jump into the water or atleast give a real try at saving them. do you think that is acceptable as a policeofficer who are expected to save lives and put civilian lives before theirs? the attempt was lackluster, that was a fact. these are 3 15 year old girls who died because grown ass men were to afraid to jump into dark water to try to save them.

[Bandito]

I would have. think about it like this. if these girls wernt in a stolen car, they were just 3 regular white girls that drove into the pond. and you are a bystander that saw it and called 911 and they happen to miraculously show up 3 seconds later, but they decide they arent going to jump into the water or atleast give a real try at saving them. do you think that is acceptable as a policeofficer who are expected to save lives and put civilian lives before theirs? the attempt was lackluster, that was a fact. these are 3 15 year old girls who died because grown ass men were to afraid to jump into dark water to try to save them.
You would get rejected because you're like 5'1" :roll:

[Hawker]

I would have. think about it like this. if these girls wernt in a stolen car, they were just 3 regular white girls that drove into the pond. and you are a bystander that saw it and called 911 and they happen to miraculously show up 3 seconds later, but they decide they arent going to jump into the water or atleast give a real try at saving them. do you think that is acceptable as a policeofficer who are expected to save lives and put civilian lives before theirs? the attempt was lackluster, that was a fact. these are 3 15 year old girls who died because grown ass men were to afraid to jump into dark water to try to save them.

These weren't innocent civilian lives though.

Pretty sure #1 rule of saving anybody in the water is not to do it in case you drown yourself as well. The police aren't trained for this and are putting themselves at risk. Who knows how the victims would've reacted once the police got down there to save them. What if they drowned him? You watch too many movies.

If the cops did jump in the water and try and save them, it still wouldn't be satisfactory.

[highwhey]

These weren't innocent civilian lives though.

Pretty sure #1 rule of saving anybody in the water is not to do it in case you drown yourself as well. The police aren't trained for this and are putting themselves at risk. Who knows how the victims would've reacted once the police got down there to save them. What if they drowned him? You watch too many movies.

If the cops did jump in the water and try and save them, it still wouldn't be satisfactory.
Of course it would be unsatisfactory, cops only enjoy shooting young black males that are unarmed.

[enayes]

they couldn't have helped, you can't open a door once the water is high enough

there only chance would have been to shoot out the windows and allow the cows to swim out

but of course if they shot at the car they would be suspended, etc :oldlol:

[highwhey]

they couldn't have helped, you can't open a door once the water is high enough

there only chance would have been to shoot out the windows and allow the cows to swim out

but of course if they shot at the car they would be suspended, etc :oldlol:
I think they would have loved to shot the black people, most cops enjoy that part of their job the most.

Stupid pigs.

[Bigsmoke]

I would have. think about it like this. if these girls wernt in a stolen car, they were just 3 regular white girls that drove into the pond. and you are a bystander that saw it and called 911 and they happen to miraculously show up 3 seconds later, but they decide they arent going to jump into the water or atleast give a real try at saving them. do you think that is acceptable as a policeofficer who are expected to save lives and put civilian lives before theirs? the attempt was lackluster, that was a fact. these are 3 15 year old girls who died because grown ass men were to afraid to jump into dark water to try to save them.

Those girls didn't crash in a swimming pool... It was a marsh. People get stuck/trapped/sucked in those without being careful and the fact that it happened at night only made the situation even more dangerous for attempting to play superman. There could be an alligator in there without them even knowing it.

You do not want to jump in a marsh to save someone trapped in a car 10 feet underwater at night unless u gotta rope so someone can pull u out and all of the other necessary equitment needed and if you're trained for that shit unless you're crazy. Even with all that, that mission is pretty life-threatening since there can be alligators and snakes in there and those girls may be on some sheisty shit.

[rezznor]

cops are under no duty to risk their lives to save someone. if they decide to do so, kudos to them.

[stalkerforlife]

Is it true you can't open a car door under water?

If so, why not?

[stalkerforlife]

cops are under no duty to risk their lives to save someone. if they decide to do so, kudos to them.

:biggums:

Isn't that precisely what their job is?

I'm not saying they could've done anything in this situation, though.

[highwhey]

Is it true you can't open a car door under water?

If so, why not?
Pressure my dude.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pflu.html

[stalkerforlife]

Pressure my dude.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pflu.html

It doesn't make sense to me, but I don't want to find out.

It just seems like you could open a door under water.

Maybe they were all unconscious after the crash.

[oarabbus]

cops are under no duty to risk their lives to save someone. if they decide to do so, kudos to them.


Their duty is to serve and protect, which may involve risking their lives.

Nothing against the cops in this specific case, though.


It doesn't make sense to me, but I don't want to find out.

It just seems like you could open a door under water.

Maybe they were all unconscious after the crash.


Nah, there is no way until the car fully fills with water and the pressure equilibrates.

Think of it this way. You ever try to open a door during a storm when the wind is pushing HARD keeping the door shut? The underwater door is like that... but the pressure is literally orders of magnitude stronger. Prime Shaq and Arnold working together couldn't move the door half an inch.

However, once the inside of the car is fully filled with water, there's no pressure difference and you can just open the door.

[Bigsmoke]

It doesn't make sense to me, but I don't want to find out.

It just seems like you could open a door under water.

Maybe they were all unconscious after the crash.
There are videos on that shit too

[BRabbiT]

...in florida, there's a decent chance there could be gators in there. **** that shit, the criminals shouldn't have ran.


yup, he'd be pretty reckless to try

[UK2K]

These weren't innocent civilian lives though.

Pretty sure #1 rule of saving anybody in the water is not to do it in case you drown yourself as well. The police aren't trained for this and are putting themselves at risk. Who knows how the victims would've reacted once the police got down there to save them. What if they drowned him? You watch too many movies.

If the cops did jump in the water and try and save them, it still wouldn't be satisfactory.

I'll do a lot of things in order to save someone else, but the one situation I won't assist in is drownings.

I know I am an excellent swimmer (CWS1 Qualified), but I also know someone in a panic can pull me under and drown me faster than I could drown myself.

[NumberSix]

I'll do a lot of things in order to save someone else, but the one situation I won't assist in is drownings.

I know I am an excellent swimmer (CWS1 Qualified), but I also know someone in a panic can pull me under and drown me faster than I could drown myself.
Didn't this happen in Florida? How eager would anybody be to dive into gator infested waters in the dark?

[highwhey]

Cops won't swim to save lives, but they should carry guns to take lives??? In what WORLD DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? Public servants REFUSING TO SAVE LIVES BUT EAGER AND WELL EQUIPPED TO TAKE LiVES AWAY.

[dude77]

I'll do a lot of things in order to save someone else, but the one situation I won't assist in is drownings.

I know I am an excellent swimmer (CWS1 Qualified), but I also know someone in a panic can pull me under and drown me faster than I could drown myself.

interesting .. so what about a lifeguard .. I always thought of them as being in full control and safe .. but apparently not ? .. I guess it also depends on the person .. bigger person can pull you down easier .. smaller person less so ? ..

also, yeah this was at 3 am I believe .. that pond was pitch dark .. no thanks .. they sealed their fate once they drove into it

[enayes]

Cops won't swim to save lives, but they should carry guns to take lives??? In what WORLD DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? Public servants REFUSING TO SAVE LIVES BUT EAGER AND WELL EQUIPPED TO TAKE LiVES AWAY.

What could they have done?

They couldn't have jumped in and opened the door while the car was going under (the whole pressure thing). Their only option would have been to dive under the water IN THE DARK and attempt to open/break the windows.

Not everyone is a good swimmer.

[highwhey]

What could they have done?

They couldn't have jumped in and opened the door while the car was going under (the whole pressure thing). Their only option would have been to dive under the water IN THE DARK and attempt to open/break the windows.

Not everyone is a good swimmer.
Honestly I'm surprised the cops didn't pull the teens out of the water only to shoot them dead. Cops these days seem very eager to shoot black people.

[Hawker]

Honestly I'm surprised the cops didn't pull the teens out of the water only to shoot them dead. Cops these days seem very eager to shoot black people.

Agreed.

Surprised that they didn't bazooka the shit outta them before crashing into the water.

[enayes]

Honestly I'm surprised the cops didn't pull the teens out of the water only to shoot them dead. Cops these days seem very eager to shoot black people.

drowning is a worse way to go

cops probably had that discussion, "should we shoot them?"

nah just let 'em drown

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[highwhey]

Agreed.

Surprised that they didn't bazooka the shit outta them before crashing into the water.
This is the next step actually. Cops will fear black people so much that shooting them won't suffice, cops instead will seek to completely obliterate black people. Wether they use a shoulder bazooka or a drone, idk, but I definitely think cops are trying to acquire military grade weapons to take out black people.

[highwhey]

drowning is a worse way to go

cops probably had that discussion, "should we shoot them?"

nah just let 'em drown

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
You don't understand the psychological effects of shooting black people, cops enjoy pulling the trigger and laying waste to black human beings.

I bet cops pull their finger at night as if they were pulling a trigger, that's how much they enjoy it, they love it so much they dream of it.

[enayes]

You don't understand the psychological effects of shooting black people, cops enjoy pulling the trigger and laying waste to black human beings.

I bet cops pull their finger at night as if they were pulling a trigger, that's how much they enjoy it, they love it so much they dream of it.

is this true for black cops as well?

[highwhey]

is this true for black cops as well?
I don't know.

White cops shoot black people and go back home and sit down and have dinner like nothing big happened. His wife, his peers all cheer him for it, that re-inforces his behavior and he becomes conditioned to doing it again amd again.

[dude77]

cops kill more whites than blacks .. and blacks kill a hell of a lot more whites than vice versa

[highwhey]

cops kill more whites than blacks .. and blacks kill a hell of a lot more whites than vice versa
You advocate the genocide of blck males that is occurring in the US.

[dude77]

You advocate the genocide of blck males that is occurring in the US.

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[BasedTom]

:biggums:

Isn't that precisely what their job is?

I'm not saying they could've done anything in this situation, though.
Well yes, but it's not so black and white

EMS's and firefighter's jobs are to save lives too, but you can sure every department has the policy where the utmost attention is made to protect the rescuer just as well as the victim. An example would be a gunfight: At that point they're not going to go in unless they have the authorities on hand to guarantee their security and safety. To do so otherwise is just unnecessarily putting more people at risk.

Aalso lifeguards i think are told to let drowning [actual] retards expend as much of their energy before they dive in, since you don't want a panicked and overly aggressive Downs syndrome person with little greater awareness swinging at you and taking you down with them.

[Im Still Ballin]

You are being watched

[Bandito]

Didn't this happen in Florida? How eager would anybody be to dive into gator infested waters in the dark?
Liberals would