Revised 3-point stats with correct NBA.COM links

[3ball]

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Each stat is linked to NBA.COM:

Over 80% of today's 3-point attempts are "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "very open" (6+ feet) - as described by NBA.com:



........................................0-2 ft (very tight).... 2-4 ft (tight)..... 4-6 ft (open).... 6+ ft (very open)

LEAGUE-AVERAGE
3-PT ATTEMPTS PER GAME ............0.4 (http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&ShotDistRange=&CloseDefDistRange=0-2%20Feet%20-%20Very%20Tight).................... 4.1 (http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&ShotDistRange=&CloseDefDistRange=2-4%20Feet%20-%20Tight)..................9.9 (http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&ShotDistRange=&CloseDefDistRange=4-6%20Feet%20-%20Open)..................9.4 (http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&ShotDistRange=&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B%20Feet%20-%20Wide%20Open&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) <-- nba.com

PERCENTAGE OF
TOTAL 3-PT ATTEMPTS .................1.7%................17.2%........ .....41.6%.............39.5%




Over 70% of Curry's 3-point attempts are either "open" (4-6 ft) or "very open" (6+ ft).. However, the league average is 80%, as shown above.



........................................0-2 ft (very tight).... 2-4 ft (tight)..... 4-6 ft (open).... 6+ ft (very open)

STEPH CURRY'S.
3-PT ATTEMPTS PER GAME ............0.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season).................... 2.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..................5.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..................2.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) <-- nba.com

PERCENTAGE OF
TOTAL 3-PT ATTEMPTS .................0.4%................ 26.1%.............45.9%.............24.3%

[3ball]

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It makes sense that most of today's 3-pointers are wide open - today's drive-and-kick offenses require 3-4 players standing behind the line on every play (spacing), so the defense is stretched out and can't make timely rotations most of the time.

However, a shortened 3-point line (like what the Bulls had in 1996) would reduce a defender's closeout distance by 3-4 feet, thus eliminating the extra room the Warriors enjoy on most of their 3-pointers.

However, regardless of the shortened line, 3-pointers have ALWAYS needed to be more open, much more than 2-pointers - certainly, most 2-pointers aren't taken with 4+ feet of room like today's 3-pointers.. Since 3-pointers must be more open, today's teams need to run more offense, resulting in slower pace and less PPG.

Otoh, previous eras barely shot 3-pointers - instead, they settled for one contested 2-pointer after another, without needing to run as much offense.

Also, today's teams use offensive schemes that maximize 3-point looks, so players shoot 3-pointers easier than ever before.. Specifically, driving and kicking for 3-pointers wasn't common or the staple of ANY team's offense until about 10 years ago.. Consequently, good 3-point shooters in the 80's and 90's didn't benefit from offenses that were based on their strength like today's 3-point shooters do.

Guys like Reggie Miller and Larry Bird had to run off screens for most of their 3-point looks - they didn't get to just stand there and wait for kickouts like today's player.

[Smoke117]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/f192fbc2d9fb02e672ecb5b19469232a/tumblr_inline_n8vw2yuEhi1ssoiqt.gif

[CuterThanRubio]

Warning: This information is INCORRECT

3ball is not capable of correctly reading statistical data, and has skewed the results to favor his agenda.

Click the link and you will NOT SEE 80%.

The team with the highest frequency of WIDE OPEN threes is the Atlanta Hawks, at 19.4%, now even if you combine that number with the criteria for "open", which is only 10%, it doesn't come close to 80%.

In actuality, 70% of their threes are contested.

Please let this thread die, spreading FALSE INFORMATION should not be allowed on this board!

[3ball]

The team with the highest frequency of WIDE OPEN threes is the Atlanta Hawks, at 19.4%, now even if you combine that number with the criteria for "open", which is only 10%, it doesn't come close to 80%.


The stats you referenced was the percentage of TOTAL shots that were open 3-pointers - the stats I posted was the percentage of 3-pointers that were open 3-pointers.

get it?

Over 80% of the league's 3-pointers were "open" (4-6 ft), or "wide open" (6+ ft), as described by NBA.COM.. For Curry, over 70% of his threes were "open" or "wide open"..

Anyone with decent reading comprehension can see that I'm right, and you're a dumbass

[CuterThanRubio]

The stats you referenced was the percentage of TOTAL shots that were open 3-pointers - the stats I posted was the percentage of 3-pointers that were open 3-pointers.

get it?

Over 80% of the league's 3-pointers were "open" (4-6 ft), or "wide open" (6+ ft), as described by NBA.COM.. For Curry, over 70% of his threes were "open" or "wide open"..

Anyone with decent reading comprehension can see that I'm right, and you're a dumbass


Wrong.

Add up the 2's and 3's on that graph, hey, they don't equal 100%, so where are the rest of the FG attempts?

Learn how to read, PLEASE let this thread die, I'm not posting in here again.

[3ball]

Wrong.

Add up the 2's and 3's on that graph, hey, they don't equal 100%, so where are the rest of the FG attempts?


Why aren't you capable of reading the data?

7.8 of Curry's 11.1 three-point attempts are either "open" (4-6 ft) or "wide open" (6+ft).. So over 70% of his threes are open or wide open.

That's better than the rest of the league, where over 80% of three-pointers are "open" or "wide open".
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[bukowski81]

Wrong.

Add up the 2's and 3's on that graph, hey, they don't equal 100%, so where are the rest of the FG attempts?

Learn how to read, PLEASE let this thread die, I'm not posting in here again.


LOL they do dude. The 2 pt attemps frequency adds up to aprox 45% and the 3 pt attemps frequency add up to approx 55%.

[CuterThanRubio]

Okay, ONE more post in here for clarifications sake before it falls to irrelevancy

http://s31.postimg.org/sep588qt3/3ball.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/sep588qt3/)

Oh, so these numbers are APPROXIMATE, you say?

Let's base our entire argument on relative guessing instead of precise data.

:coleman:

This entire thread is BS

EDIT: EXACTLY bukowski, you RETARD, you read it wrong, just like 3ball did!

You can't challenge FACTS.

[bukowski81]

Okay, ONE more post in here for clarifications sake before it falls to irrelevancy

http://s31.postimg.org/sep588qt3/3ball.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/sep588qt3/)

Oh, so these numbers are APPROXIMATE, you say?

Let's base our entire argument on relative guessing instead of precise data.

:coleman:

This entire thread is BS
You just dont get what the stat is saying.

If you add up the freq column of both sections you highlighted it adds to 100%.

The stats are pretty clear and very easy to read, you are just embarrasing yourself.

EDIT: Sorry, not in the pic you posted, in the Curry chart that is linked in the OP. In the pic you posted, that 14.1% for GS means the percentage of TOTAL shots that are wide open threes

[KobesFinger]

Whats the point of this thread?

[3ball]

Whats the point of this thread?


Most people aren't aware that the NBA tracks how close defenders are to shooters - their stats show that over 80% the league's 3-pointers are "open" (4-6 ft), or "wide open" (6+ ft), as described by NBA.COM

Even Curry's 3-pointers are mostly open - over 70% of the his 3-pointers are "open" or "wide open".
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[Smoke117]

Your opinion is devoid of any substance when it comes to the NBA right now since you don't watch it. Homeboy here wants to have a basketball discussion strictly through numbers because he doesn't even watch the ****ing game anymore. He thinks he can make an opinion on someone like Curry without even watching them play...you can't. Your opinion when it comes to the modern NBA is completely worthless and frankly just sad...coming on here and diminishing players you don't even watch play to prop up another...:biggums:

[3ball]

Homeboy here wants to have a basketball discussion strictly through numbers because he doesn't even watch the ****ing game anymore.


You guys discuss basketball from previous eras that you never watched, so I can do the same for this era.

And let's face it - my discussion of today's game is a lot more competent than other posters' discussion of prior eras.. You guys are a joke when you talk about prior eras - clueless






Your opinion is devoid of any substance when it comes to the NBA right now since you don't watch it.


Why would I watch a bunch of open 3-pointers??... .:yaohappy:

Over 80% of the NBA's 3-pointers are "open" or "wide open", including 70% of Curry's - this is NBA.com's data.

Today's open 3-pointers was no surprise to me, since I was already aware that today's drive-and-kick offenses require 3-4 players standing behind the line on every play (spacing), so the defense is stretched out and can't make timely rotations most of the time.

I was also aware of everything said about 3-pointers here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=404269).. This knowledge allows me to talk about today's game intelligently, without having watched.

[riseagainst]

So Curry's ability to create spacing because he outclasses most defenders is suddenly being used to discredit him?

Hokay. You know you are the GOAT when people make up things to discredit you.

:oldlol:

[raprap]

Pathetic.