Bulls without Jordan versus Dubs without Curry

[sundizz]

In a 7 game series who wins?

Might as well do the teams discussion it in general as well for Jordan, Kobe, Lebron (nobody really cares about anybody else). No player gets added to the team, they'd have to use current roster. You pick the year if they won multiple (e.g., 1996 Bulls, 2012 Heat, 2001 Lakers).

Tier 1
1. Bulls without Jordan (96)

Tier 2
2. Heat without Bran (e.g., 2010, Wade prime at 29, Bosh prime age 26)
3. Dubs without Curry (current year)

Tier 3
4. Lakers without Shaq (2001 destructive Kobe + etc)

[I know you are]

Looks accurate. Late 2000s Lakers likely a bit higher though.

[Dray n Klay]

LOL, didn't Heat without Bran go straight into the lottery?? :confusedshrug:

[sundizz]

Looks accurate. Late 2000s Lakers likely a bit higher though.

I actually took them off the list. They'd suck without Kobe haha. LO + Odom is not enough to do anything. Bynum is good but wouldn't be able to exist with LO + Odom without a great perimeter player.

[riseagainst]

looks accurate

[sundizz]

LOL, didn't Heat without Bran go straight into the lottery?? :confusedshrug:

A significantly different Heat than 2010-2011. Wade had a huge drop off and so did Bosh. 2010-11 Heat had a 26 year old Bosh and a 29 year old Wade. That is two superstar players in/around prime. They'd dominate.

[I know you are]

I actually took them off the list. They'd suck without Kobe haha. LO + Odom is not enough to do anything. Bynum is good but wouldn't be able to exist with LO + Odom without a great perimeter player.
They beat Celtics in an all important game 7 despite Kobe actually being a net negative as far as a scoring guard goes. Sure they won't be a championship team anymore, but they would still make the playoffs, just as these other teams on the list.

[FKAri]

Early 90s Bulls' would get raped by Warriors if you took Curry and MJ out of the teams.

[Dragonyeuw]

96 Bulls without MJ don't have close to the firepower needed to counter a Curry-less Warriors squad.