Austin Rivers "I would beat.bob cousy if I played in the 60's"

[Achilleas]

Austin Rivers "I would beat.bob cousy if I played in the 60's"https://media.giphy.com/media/EsqPnyME6ppsY/giphy.gif
vs

http://i33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg

[riseagainst]

:roll:

[I know you are]

Maybe he should be focused on being better than current players.

[HoopologyPhD]

Bob Cousy didn't make it to the professional ranks just because his dad was the worst coach to ever win a ring so I am pretty sure he is >>> Rivers.

[brownmamba00]

This kid is a cockhead

Jordan farmar was twice the player he is

[stalkerforlife]

I doubt it and I doubt the level of play in those days.

Daddy's boy has been coddled from day one and his head is full of false truths.

[Klay 3D]

Maybe he meant beat box Cousy instead of beat Bob Cousy?

[stephanieg]

Maybe in 50 years some scrub will say they'd beat Austin Rivers if they played in the 2010s. Because Austin Rivers will be a household name 50 years from now.

[CuterThanRubio]

Doris Burke and Stan Van Gundy can out dribble Cousy

[bdonovan]

Interesting post from earlier on ISH on Cousy's FG%; though low it was comparable to the league average at the time.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3393458&postcount=9

1950-51: league average fg%: 35.7% cousy's %: 35.2%
1951-52: league average fg%: 36.7% cousy's %: 36.9%
1952-53: league average fg%: 37.0% cousy's %: 35.2%
1953-54: league average fg%: 37.2% cousy's %: 38.5%
1954-55: league average fg%: 38.5% cousy's %: 39.7%
1955-56: league average fg%: 38.7% cousy's %: 36.0%
1956-57: league average fg%: 38.0% cousy's %: 37.8%
1957-58: league average fg%: 38.3% cousy's %: 35.3%
1958-59: league average fg%: 39.5% cousy's %: 38.4%
1959-60: league average fg%: 41.0% cousy's %: 38.4%
1960-61: league average fg%: 41.5% cousy's %: 37.1%
1961-62: league average fg%: 42.6% cousy's %: 39.1%
1962-63: league average fg%: 44.1% cousy's %: 39.7%

He led the league in assists many years.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cousybo01.html

[LAZERUSS]

Interesting post from earlier on ISH on Cousy's FG%; though low it was comparable to the league average at the time.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3393458&postcount=9

1950-51: league average fg%: 35.7% cousy's %: 35.2%
1951-52: league average fg%: 36.7% cousy's %: 36.9%
1952-53: league average fg%: 37.0% cousy's %: 35.2%
1953-54: league average fg%: 37.2% cousy's %: 38.5%
1954-55: league average fg%: 38.5% cousy's %: 39.7%
1955-56: league average fg%: 38.7% cousy's %: 36.0%
1956-57: league average fg%: 38.0% cousy's %: 37.8%
1957-58: league average fg%: 38.3% cousy's %: 35.3%
1958-59: league average fg%: 39.5% cousy's %: 38.4%
1959-60: league average fg%: 41.0% cousy's %: 38.4%
1960-61: league average fg%: 41.5% cousy's %: 37.1%
1961-62: league average fg%: 42.6% cousy's %: 39.1%
1962-63: league average fg%: 44.1% cousy's %: 39.7%

He led the league in assists many years.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cousybo01.html

Exactly...Cousy was shooting about the league average.

Now, compare that with Rubio, who shot an eFG% of .427, in an NBA that shot .502.

Oh, and another thing...Cousy was basically done by the early 60's. If Austin wants a better comparison, how about to this 6-5 white guy who was playing college ball in the 60's...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ

Pistol would destroy Rivers in every facet of the game.

[atljonesbro]

Cousey would be a middle school coach today

[LAZERUSS]

Cousey would be a middle school coach today

And probably a damn good one at age 88.

[Spaulding]

Maybe he should be focused on being better than current players.

Ya.

Plus this is pretty disrespectful. The game of basketball is always evolving.

[CuterThanRubio]

Exactly...Cousy was shooting about the league average.

Now, compare that with Rubio, who shot an eFG% of .427, in an NBA that shot .502.

Oh, and another thing...Cousy was basically done by the early 60's. If Austin wants a better comparison, how about to this 6-5 white guy who was playing college ball in the 60's...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ

Pistol would destroy Rivers in every facet of the game.

A guy his size averaging that many rebounds is the perfect illustration of how poor NBA basketball was during his time.

When the worst shooter ever is your choice of comparison you know it's bad.

Cousy is/was garbage

[LAZERUSS]

A guy his size averaging that many rebounds is the perfect illustration of how poor NBA basketball was during his time.

When the worst shooter ever is your choice of comparison you know it's bad.

Cousy is/was garbage

Worst shooter ever in the history of the game is your boy Rubio. BY FAR.

[CuterThanRubio]

Worst shooter ever in the history of the game is your boy Rubio. BY FAR.

That's what I meant, obviously lol.

I'm saying when that's the guy who have to compare Cousy with it's a joke.

And Rubio would abuse him 1 on 1

[CarlosBoozer]

Daddy's boy his entire life, can't imagine how of a p*ssy he is

[LAZERUSS]

That's what I meant, obviously lol.

I'm saying when that's the guy who have to compare Cousy with it's a joke.

And Rubio would abuse him 1 on 1

All I know is that the Pistol would wreck the current NBA.

[CuterThanRubio]

http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/gallery/nogku6-b88405482z.120150516125641000gd89orla.10.jpg

This guy is a bum.

Now you are bringing up Pistol Pete?

Why?

He's a different caliber, he could actually shoot and dribble with both hands lol

[LAZERUSS]

http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/gallery/nogku6-b88405482z.120150516125641000gd89orla.10.jpg

This guy is a bum.

Now you are bringing up Pistol Pete?

Why?

He's a different caliber, he could actually shoot and dribble with both hands lol

Cousy's prime was in the 50's.

The Pistol played college ball in the 60's, and had the NBA allowed under-classman to play in the 60's, Maravich would have been among the best in the league in the 60's. Just as he would be today.

[keep-itreal]

so could everyone else :confusedshrug:

[CuterThanRubio]

Cousy's prime was in the 50's.

The Pistol played college ball in the 60's, and had the NBA allowed under-classman to play in the 60's, Maravich would have been among the best in the league in the 60's. Just as he would be today.


Cousy never had a "prime"

He played in the weakest era.

6'1" 175 and he averaged 9.5 boards in a single year.

That's pretty close to my height and weight and I would probably grab two boards max if I played major minutes in an NBA game.

Bob Cousy couldn't even jump as high as I can yet he averaged 9.5 rebounds..........

:hammerhead:

[LAZERUSS]

Cousy never had a "prime"

He played in the weakest era.

6'1" 175 and he averaged 9.5 boards in a single year.

That's pretty close to my height and weight and I would probably grab two boards max if I played major minutes in an NBA game.

Bob Cousy couldn't even jump as high as I can yet he averaged 9.5 rebounds..........

:hammerhead:

The "listed" 6-3 Fat Lever, who weighed 175 lbs...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199002190DEN.html

[CuterThanRubio]

So there is a possibility that he may be even shorter than that, and he definitely looks lighter than 175.

A 5'10" 150lb pg averaged 9.5 rebounds.

50s and 60s NBA basketball should be deleted from the history books.

[LAZERUSS]

So there is a possibility that he may be even shorter than that, and he definitely looks lighter than 175.

A 5'10" 150lb pg averaged 9.5 rebounds.

50s and 60s NBA basketball should be deleted from the history books.

So should the 90's. A 6-3 175 lb guard averaged 9.3 rpg.

BTW, Cousy never came close to 9.5 rpg. His best season was 6.8.

[Poetry]

A 5'10" 150lb pg averaged 9.5 rebounds.

Assists.

[CuterThanRubio]

Those empty spaces on bballref screwed me up, my bad.

My point still stands, though.

5'8" 145lbs and averaged 7 rebounds per game.

He played in the weakest, and most irrelevant era, I don't even know why this thread is still going.

Rivers is trash but he's better than Cousy.

[LAZERUSS]

Those empty spaces on bballref screwed me up, my bad.

My point still stands, though.

5'8" 145lbs and averaged 7 rebounds per game.

He played in the weakest, and most irrelevant era, I don't even know why this thread is still going.

Rivers is trash but he's better than Cousy.

So did Kareem. The same KAJ who at ages 38 and 39, and in the mid-80's, was carpet-bombing Hakeem and Ewing with 40+ point games.

[CuterThanRubio]

So did Kareem. The same KAJ who at ages 38 and 39, and in the mid-80's, was carpet-bombing Hakeem and Ewing with 40+ point games.

Why are you doing this?

Kareem was a giant with an unblockable shot, his game would translate to the modern era.

Cousy had no special skills, he would not be in the NBA today.

[LAZERUSS]

Why are you doing this?

Kareem was a giant with an unblockable shot, his game would translate to the modern era.

Cousy had no special skills, he would not be in the NBA today.

You had better watch this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QCP6mMMH2Q

And again, this was Cousy in the 50's.

[Poetry]

5'8" 145lbs and averaged 7 rebounds per game.

Cousy is listed at 6'1, 175 lbs. If you compare him to Stockton in 1996-97, he looks to be about that tall at 68-years-old, so if he were measured today, he would probably have been at least 6'2 in his younger days.

[CuterThanRubio]

Cousy is listed at 6'1, 175 lbs. If you compare him to Stockton in 1996-97, he looks to be about that tall at 68-years-old, so if he were measured today, he would probably have been at least 6'2 in his younger days.

You guys need to lighten up!

How are you failing to catch on?

Lazeruss insinuated that Cousy may have been taller/heavier than listed since the NBA isn't always accurate in their measurements so I posted smaller numbers in consecutive posts in a mocking fashion.

The point is that Cousy was tiny and would not be grabbing boards nowadays (or doing much of anything, since he wouldn't get drafted).

Let us agree that he is exactly the same size as Stockton for discussion's sake, well I'm sorry to inform you that Stockton maxed out at 3 boards per game.

What does that tell you about the worst era in NBA history?

End of story!

[Hittin_Shots]

He says if he played back then. But didnt people dribble like that due to not being allowed to palm it and every dribble rivers did would result in a turn over?

[iamgine]

Lets see Austin handle the canvas shoes, strict dribbling rule, flying coach, low salary, and hours and hours of bus rides. As past players put it, getting to the games was half the battle.

[jstern]

I once saw a video of Cousy dribbling very fast and moving around. It looked impressive. So I went to the courts, tried to emulate his style, just up and down, and it was extremely hard. That style is technically harder, because at least today you're able to at least manipulate the ball a little at the apex of the dribble.

[kentatm]

if he played in the 60s he woudnt be allowed to travel and carry the ball all game long like they do now

[warriorfan]

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/c6sxeykysrchvodndx8p.jpg

[Prime_Shaq]

https://media.giphy.com/media/EsqPnyME6ppsY/giphy.gif
[/IMG]
Lol @ Harden and Dwight running into each other

[Terahite]

Austin Rivers "I would beat.bob cousy if I played in the 60's"https://media.giphy.com/media/EsqPnyME6ppsY/giphy.gif
vs

http://i33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg

Blake's reaction is hilarious :lol

Cousy looking like Lee Harvey Oswald in that other clip.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Much as it pains me to say, I don't think Cousy could do what that Rivers boy did to us in the first round last year.

:coleman:

[DoctorP]

I would beat Bob Cousy if I played in the 60's.

[Cali Syndicate]

Ya.

Plus this is pretty disrespectful. The game of basketball is always evolving.

Yup, definitely an ass hat thing to say

[bdreason]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/bdreason/CloseIllFritillarybutterfly_zps3misvpeg.gif (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/bdreason/media/CloseIllFritillarybutterfly_zps3misvpeg.gif.html)

[Spurs m8]

One of the biggest f*ckwits in the NBA

[Nick Young]

Why would Rivers even say this? Did he bring this idea up himself or did someone ask him "who would win in 1v1, you or Cousy?"

[LootOP]

6'1" 175 and he averaged 9.5 boards in a single year.

That's pretty close to my height and weight and I would probably grab two boards max if I played major minutes in an NBA game.

Bob Cousy couldn't even jump as high as I can yet he averaged 9.5 rebounds..........


:roll: at ALL of this.



Oh, ish....how you make me laugh.

[oarabbus]

Cousy's shit takes a shit on rivers

[Psileas]

Lets see Austin handle the canvas shoes, strict dribbling rule, flying coach, low salary, and hours and hours of bus rides. As past players put it, getting to the games was half the battle.

And back to back to back (or worse) games within fewer months. And worse medical and training conditions. And no Facebook-Twitter to befriend his rivals.
This ignorant loser (and others like him) would quit the instant he stepped foot in Cousy's era. :oldlol: And he wouldn't have a cat's chance in hell to make the league if he was born in the 30's/40's instead of "transported in time".

[StephHamann]

I bet stalkferforlife would manhandle Autistic Rivers 1on1

[luckylucy]

You had better watch this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QCP6mMMH2Q

And again, this was Cousy in the 50's.

:lol :lol :lol

The game footage in this video is pathetic. A level of play that can be found in any random pickup game.

Austin Rivers would scorch Bob Cousy and I don

[KobesFinger]

You had better watch this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QCP6mMMH2Q

And again, this was Cousy in the 50's.

He was a driving instructor? :roll:

[deja vu]

Tbh it's not a delusional claim. Any decent point guard in the D-League would beat Cousy.

[Psileas]

[QUOTE=luckylucy]:lol :lol :lol

The game footage in this video is pathetic. A level of play that can be found in any random pickup game.

Austin Rivers would scorch Bob Cousy and I don

[feyki]

Ahaha Cousy getting smaller day and day by kids :D .

So , what was the last height ?

5'2 ?

:lol :lol

[kurple]

You guys need to lighten up!

How are you failing to catch on?

Lazeruss insinuated that Cousy may have been taller/heavier than listed since the NBA isn't always accurate in their measurements so I posted smaller numbers in consecutive posts in a mocking fashion.

The point is that Cousy was tiny and would not be grabbing boards nowadays (or doing much of anything, since he wouldn't get drafted).

Let us agree that he is exactly the same size as Stockton for discussion's sake, well I'm sorry to inform you that Stockton maxed out at 3 boards per game.

What does that tell you about the worst era in NBA history?

End of story!
You do realize that being as tall as Stockton does not make him the same player?

[SwayDizzle]

such disrespect. rivers would get his sh*t pushed in by cous

[LAZERUSS]

And back to back to back (or worse) games within fewer months. And worse medical and training conditions. And no Facebook-Twitter to befriend his rivals.
This ignorant loser (and others like him) would quit the instant he stepped foot in Cousy's era. :oldlol: And he wouldn't have a cat's chance in hell to make the league if he was born in the 30's/40's instead of "transported in time".

On a similar note...the first round of the '68 playoffs. Curry is getting huge chunks of days off between games in which to rest his glass ankle. Had he played in the '68 first round, he would have had to either play in, or miss, three straight games in three straight nights (March 30, 31, and April 1.)

And, of course, other's have mentioned it already...but palming and traveling are now just accepted. In fact, blatant palming, carrying, and multiple steps are the norm. In all honesty, if you could "transport Rivers back into that time", he wouldn't get the ball past half court. After 2-3 possessions, he would either be riding the bench, or else becoming a fulltime driving instructor.

[LAZERUSS]

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/c6sxeykysrchvodndx8p.jpg

You won't find players like that in the current NBA, right?

http://q9ajg3m8r764ux2l1qldhv3k5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/bowtie.jpg

Two time MVP...

[ImKobe]

You won't find players like that in the current NBA, right?

http://q9ajg3m8r764ux2l1qldhv3k5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/bowtie.jpg

Two time MVP...

lol Nash in his prime days (not when he's an assistant coach for the Lakers)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/SteveNash3.jpg/380px-SteveNash3.jpg

Nash is also 6-4 195 lbs

[lakers_forever]

Rivers should be ashamed. I can see people in 20 years, saying such BS about guys like Stockton and Nash.

[Mr. Jabbar]

nash is the worst shit ive seen in a lakers uniform, dwight comes in second

[LAZERUSS]

lol Nash in his prime days (not when he's an assistant coach for the Lakers)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/SteveNash3.jpg/380px-SteveNash3.jpg

Nash is also 6-4 195 lbs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nashst01.html

6-3.

Of course, as we KNOW, the NBA has been measuring players in SHOES since the 80's.

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Steve-Nash-1898.html


Canadian basketball player associated with Phoenix Suns and Los Angeles Lakers. Official site and NBA gives this guy 6ft 3. On his twitter when asked how tall he was without shoes, he said "6'1".

Nash was no taller than Cousy.

[ImKobe]

Rivers should be ashamed. I can see people in 20 years, saying such BS about guys like Stockton and Nash.

No way man

Cousy was great for his time but he was a terrible shooter (not just by %'s, but compared to league average he was usually always below average)

Stockton and Nash were offensive geniuses, Nash I believe has the highest all-time FT% for career, Stockton also leads all players in assists AND steals in NBA and missed a total of 22 games in his 19-year NBA career and played 7 seasons straight without missing a single game...

[ImKobe]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nashst01.html

6-3.

Of course, as we KNOW, the NBA has been measuring players in SHOES since the 80's.

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Steve-Nash-1898.html



Nash was no taller than Cousy.

well I remembered his listed height being 6-4 and actual height being 6-2, still listed 2 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier...

And it's not just about size, Nash had unbeliveable stamina and agility for a player with his physical attributes, dude was as dedicated as anyone in NBA history when it came to putting in the hours at the gym.

Cousy was terrific for his time but he gets overrated because he played with Bill Russell on those title teams... over 18 FGA and 6 FTA for 19 ppg career on 37,5% shooting...never shot 40% in a season...won a title averaging 15 ppg on 20 shots, shooting 30.5% lol, league average was 41%

[CuterThanRubio]

You do realize that being as tall as Stockton does not make him the same player?

Of course, he's a much worse player than Stockton, who I happen to think is highly overrated.

Let's not even get started on Nash, he absolutely DESTROYS any guard from the irrelevant era.

:coleman:

Btw, you need to change that Capital Steez avatar, makes me cringe every time I see you post.

A middle aged Scandinavian man obsessing over teenage black American culture is NOT normal!

:coleman:

I can't believe this thread is still on the first page, look at all of the views I generated by posting in here.

You are welcome!

:rockon:

[Psileas]

On a similar note...the first round of the '68 playoffs. Curry is getting huge chunks of days off between games in which to rest his glass ankle. Had he played in the '68 first round, he would have had to either play in, or miss, three straight games in three straight nights (March 30, 31, and April 1.)

And, of course, other's have mentioned it already...but palming and traveling are now just accepted. In fact, blatant palming, carrying, and multiple steps are the norm. In all honesty, if you could "transport Rivers back into that time", he wouldn't get the ball past half court. After 2-3 possessions, he would either be riding the bench, or else becoming a fulltime driving instructor.

Yes, but...but Cousy wasn't playing in '68. :lol

Seriously, though, look at this schedule (the bars). Just brutal:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1962.html

I can only imagine how much players would be bitching today if they had to endure this. Many, if not most of them, would either completely cruise in the regular season or half the league would be out injured at one point or another.

[Stringer Bell]

Yes, but...but Cousy wasn't playing in '68. :lol

Seriously, though, look at this schedule (the bars). Just brutal:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1962.html

I can only imagine how much players would be bitching today if they had to endure this. Many, if not most of them, would either completely cruise in the regular season or half the league would be out injured at one point or another.

Wow, a lot of stretches with 4 games in 5 nights, even 5 games in 6 nights.

Back to back to back.

[truhooper]

Of course he would

Guys like Cousy & Jerry West would be in the D league with Jimer Fredette :roll:

[Jameerthefear]

it's easy as hell to play a bunch of games in a row when the competition is that weak. any current nba player could coast his ass off in that weak ass league.

[swagga]

Rivers should be ashamed. I can see people in 20 years, saying such BS about guys like Stockton and Nash.

stockton and nash are good shooters. cousy is a poor shooter with a liability of a jumpshot (anybody can block that), without a penetration game or a post game. He'd get shut down by rivers, quite easily I might add. He'd get detroyed by austin rivers 1v1 and in a team game (today's league) and I'm saying this as a rivers family hater. No shame in admitting an OBVIOUS truth.

[feyki]

stockton and nash are good shooters. cousy is a poor shooter with a liability of a jumpshot (anybody can block that), without a penetration game or a post game. He'd get shut down by rivers, quite easily I might add. He'd get detroyed by austin rivers 1v1 and in a team game (today's league) and I'm saying this as a rivers family hater. No shame in admitting an OBVIOUS truth.

If you don't know about a thing , you don't talk about that thing . Don't abase yourself .

[swagga]

If you don't know about a thing , you don't talk about that thing . Don't abase yourself .

he ain't getting that set shot off against any NBA player. I don't care if he shoots 100% on it, that shit will get rejected every god damn time. Cousy is a great passer and a creative ballhandler (for the 50s rules...), but that's where his talent end.

I mean seriously, can you see cousy crossing over somebody, or going hard to the rack, or playing some tough D, or shooting OVER somebody, or getting any separation with some skill? his game just doesn't translate to the modern era..

[warriorfan]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/SteveNash3.jpg/380px-SteveNash3.jpg

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/c6sxeykysrchvodndx8p.jpg

[sd3035]

While I agree with Rivers, he's still a scrub in today's game

I could probably beat James Naismith at basketball but who cares

[feyki]

he ain't getting that set shot off against any NBA player. I don't care if he shoots 100% on it, that shit will get rejected every god damn time. Cousy is a great passer and a creative ballhandler (for the 50s rules...), but that's where his talent end.

I mean seriously, can you see cousy crossing over somebody, or going hard to the rack, or playing some tough D, or shooting OVER somebody, or getting any separation with some skill? his game just doesn't translate to the modern era..

He shoots one-handed bro . And also he was the first man to use mid-range bank shots . I didn't see set shot from him .

If it comes to set shots , i want to talk about that ..

Defence was tougher and very illegal to present basketball . Fouls per game was more than fgm per game . You can't attack the rim , you cannot create shot for yourself from mid or long range . Defence was like streetball with no mercy . And how do you score with those circumstances ? Of course loong , lonngg shots from nearly 30 feet . If you could make three set shots a game , then you're a superstar in those days . Game was different . And we should take a look detailed to those days to can understand the game what was . Other way goes to ignorance .

Of course he wasn't solid defender or all around player . But i'm sure he was better all around player and defender than Nash . But of course Nash was goat type offensive player . Cousy was only great ( damn , only :D , Nash factor ) .