The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

[BeastMode24]

among the elite teams (warriors, spurs, clippers, thunder, cavs). Its really just Steph Curry and a bunch of overglorified role players. no surprise they lost to the rockets without Curry. dray n klay arent franchise players. dray isn't even a #2 option. klay is comes up small in the playoffs. Its just that Curry makes everybody else around him so much better that people think that the Warriors are this crazy stacked team. guys like barnes, iggy, klay, bogut, etc all get overrated.

[AirBonner]

among the elite teams (warriors, spurs, clippers, thunder, cavs). Its really just Steph Curry and a bunch of overglorified role players. no surprise they lost to the rockets without Curry. dray n klay arent franchise players. dray isn't even a #2 option. klay is comes up small in the playoffs. Its just that Curry makes everybody else around him so much better that people think that the Warriors are this crazy stacked team. guys like barnes, iggy, klay, bogut, etc all get overrated.
Glorified role players eh? how do you explain Curry's lack of finals mvp?

[keep-itreal]

Klay Thompson: 0/7 3PT

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[BeastMode24]

Glorified role players eh? how do you explain Curry's lack of finals mvp?

media award decided by 12 people. big deal. iggy had wide open jumpers all series because the cavs were doubling curry all series.

[warriorfan]

Klay = Spot up shooter with poor handles, poor vision, poor bball iq, mediocre to lower end defender

Draymond = Mediocre passer but awful all around offensively, good hustle defense

Iguodala = Can't hit the broad side of a barn with his jumpshot, does not space the floor, does not hustle, overrated defender, only thing he can do is dunk in transition

Barnes = piece of human garbage, scores 9 points as a 4th option of offense. Cannot create his own shot. Has a knack for disapearing during big moments

Barbosa = shitty passer, low bball iq, main asset is shooting open corner 3's and reckless crashes to the basket

Livingston = decent low post scorer you can rely on for 6 to 8 points a game, mediocre passer, worst floor spacing point guard in the league,

Bogut = good defender, close to 40 yearss old and has suffered major injuries, his right arm is crooked and does not bend properly, he plays 20 mins a game and scores 2 to 4 points a game

Ezeli = Stone hands, poor pick and roll defense

[BeastMode24]

Klay = Spot up shooter with poor handles, poor vision, poor bball iq, mediocre to lower end defender

Draymond = Mediocre passer but awful all around offensively, good hustle defense

Iguodala = Can't hit the broad side of a barn with his jumpshot, does not space the floor, does not hustle, overrated defender, only thing he can do is dunk in transition

Barnes = piece of human garbage, scores 9 points as a 4th option of offense. Cannot create his own shot. Has a knack for disapearing during big moments

Barbosa = shitty passer, low bball iq, main asset is shooting open corner 3's and reckless crashes to the basket

Livingston = decent low post scorer you can rely on for 6 to 8 points a game, mediocre passer, worst floor spacing point guard in the league,

Bogut = good defender, close to 40 yearss old and has suffered major injuries, his right arm is crooked and does not bend properly, he plays 20 mins a game and scores 2 to 4 points a game

Ezeli = Stone hands, poor pick and roll defense

crazy how Curry carried this group to 73 wins.

[Sarcastic]

media award decided by 12 people. big deal. iggy had wide open jumpers all series because the cavs were doubling curry all series.

Everyone who actually watched that see knows Iggy was the second best player after Lebron.

[AirBonner]

crazy how Curry carried this group to 73 wins.
must be tough carrying that 22.1ppg corpse Klay on a nightly basis :lol

[warriorfan]

must be tough carrying that 22.1ppg corpse Klay on a nightly basis :lol

it actually is klay struggles to score 15 points per game if he plays on any other team

[oarabbus]

OP is an idiot, the Warriors are top to bottom one of the best teams in the league.

73 was a team effort.

[Prime_Shaq]

They have the best system though, that's the most important

[Bankaii]

2nd deepest team after the Spurs.
Best system in the league.
Best defense in the league(despite Curry being shit).
Klay is the best sidekick and SG in the league.
Green is the most versatile PF in the league.
Top 3 defenders at every position except PG, obviously.

Quit melting down lapdog.

[k0kakw0rld]

among the elite teams (warriors, spurs, clippers, thunder, cavs). Its really just Steph Curry and a bunch of overglorified role players. no surprise they lost to the rockets without Curry. dray n klay arent franchise players. dray isn't even a #2 option. klay is comes up small in the playoffs. Its just that Curry makes everybody else around him so much better that people think that the Warriors are this crazy stacked team. guys like barnes, iggy, klay, bogut, etc all get overrated.
Somehow y'all seem to forget that before game 3, there was game 2. I remember Klay scoring a game high 34 tying his career high vs the Spurs.

[3ball]

among the elite teams (warriors, spurs, clippers, thunder, cavs). Its really just Steph Curry and a bunch of overglorified role players. no surprise they lost to the rockets without Curry. dray n klay arent franchise players. dray isn't even a #2 option. klay is comes up small in the playoffs. Its just that Curry makes everybody else around him so much better that people think that the Warriors are this crazy stacked team. guys like barnes, iggy, klay, bogut, etc all get overrated.
all true, but you're missing something

[3ball]

Somehow y'all seem to forget that before game 3, there was game 2. I remember Klay scoring a game high 34 tying his career high vs the Spurs.
Klay is super-nice......

for today's game

He's perceived as being this generation's Reggie Miller, whom he doesn't hold a candle to.

[3ball]

Klay = Spot up shooter with poor handles, poor vision, poor bball iq, mediocre to lower end defender

Draymond = Mediocre passer but awful all around offensively, good hustle defense

Iguodala = Can't hit the broad side of a barn with his jumpshot, does not space the floor, does not hustle, overrated defender, only thing he can do is dunk in transition

Barnes = piece of human garbage, scores 9 points as a 4th option of offense. Cannot create his own shot. Has a knack for disapearing during big moments

Barbosa = shitty passer, low bball iq, main asset is shooting open corner 3's and reckless crashes to the basket

Livingston = decent low post scorer you can rely on for 6 to 8 points a game, mediocre passer, worst floor spacing point guard in the league,

Bogut = good defender, close to 40 yearss old and has suffered major injuries, his right arm is crooked and does not bend properly, he plays 20 mins a game and scores 2 to 4 points a game

Ezeli = Stone hands, poor pick and roll defense


The reason the Warriors still win despite this horrible roster is because THEY HAVE SUPERIOR STRATEGY

This thread has 15 posts and not a single person mentioned the Warriors' vastly superior strategy to the rest of the league..

The Warriors have some decent role players, but only a fool thinks they have 73-win talent.. But we have a lot of fools that like basketball these days.

[KiiiiNG]

The reason the Warriors still win despite this horrible roster is because THEY HAVE SUPERIOR STRATEGY

This thread has 15 posts and not a single person mentioned the Warriors' vastly superior strategy to the rest of the league..

The Warriors have some decent role players, but only a fool thinks they have 73-win talent.. But we have a lot of fools that like basketball these days.
No, no.

It's BOTH. They have the perfect strategy but without the rosters talent, it wouldn't work.

See, they have a roster filled with incredibly high IQ players, who have the ability to quickly catch the ball, make the right decisions, and have the coordination and TALENT to execute perfectly. It's the coordination and IQ of the team that makes them great! No black holes! They rarely fumble the ball around or wait to long to make the right pass! It just happens naturally because they have a roster full of incredibly TALENTED/VERSATILE players who can both catch, shoot, finish, and play defense!

Best team ever!

If it's just the strategy.. why isn't every team copying it? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T! THEY DON'T HAVE NEAR THE TALENT OR IQ - DUH!!!!!!!!

In the Warriors case...the talent CREATED the strategy! Not the other way around!

[3ball]

It's BOTH. They have the perfect strategy but without the rosters talent, it wouldn't work.

they have a roster filled incredibly high IQ players, who have the ability to quickly catch the ball, make the right decisions


The COACHES create the plays - your post sounds like you think PLAYERS are the ones out there making up those plays on the fly.

All those pretty plays are designed by the COACHES - the biggest factor in the play's success is the strategic quality of the play, not the players executing it.

A predictable pick-n-roll play executed by Lebron James won't have the same success as a play executed by Patty Mills and Danny Green that uses off-ball movement and misdirection before the screen-roll.





the coordination and TALENT to execute perfectly.


And it's a lot more complicated than you realize.. Some players have styles more conducive for certain types of plays - today's Spurs and Warriors, and also the 90's Bulls employed equal-opportunity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=23m40s) offenses, which requires quick decisions and doesn't allow extended dribbling..

MJ and Curry's off-ball skill allows the team to execute these offenses better than Lebron's ball-dominance does.. Of course, Lebron has never operated in an equal-opportunity offense, but after 13 years that isn't coincidence - his ball-dominant style isn't conducive for it and this dissuades coaches from trying to go against this.

[TheImmortal]

Steph Curry is mad underrated.. I agree.

[sd3035]

While the OP is right that the Warriors aren't as stacked as the other 4 teams mentioned, they are still a great team and probably the 5th most stacked in the league.

They also play together very well, have great coaching, and the best player in the world on their team. They are the most exciting team to watch, along with OKC, when Curry is playing.

[3ball]

Steph Curry is mad underrated.. I agree.



It's the same thing with MJ - other than Pippen, the Bulls had a bunch of glorified role players just like the Warriors:



- Horace Grant was an 12/9 play-finisher

- Kerr/Paxson/BJ were Redick-style spot-up shooters averaging 7-12 ppg

- Cartwright/Longley were 8 ppg/0.5 blk centers who just took up space

- Rodman wasn't all-star or all defense; he averaged 4/8 in 97' Playoffs and didn't start in 98' playoffs

[Mr. Jabbar]

Agree 100%

[3ball]

When the Warriors owner comes out and says "we're light years ahead of the competition"

Do you think he's talking about the Warriors' talent, or their strategy/organization?

[warriorfan]

No, no.

It's BOTH. They have the perfect strategy but without the rosters talent, it wouldn't work.

See, they have a roster filled with incredibly high IQ players, who have the ability to quickly catch the ball, make the right decisions, and have the coordination and TALENT to execute perfectly. It's the coordination and IQ of the team that makes them great! No black holes! They rarely fumble the ball around or wait to long to make the right pass! It just happens naturally because they have a roster full of incredibly TALENTED/VERSATILE players who can both catch, shoot, finish, and play defense!

Best team ever!

If it's just the strategy.. why isn't every team copying it? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T! THEY DON'T HAVE NEAR THE TALENT OR IQ - DUH!!!!!!!!

In the Warriors case...the talent CREATED the strategy! Not the other way around!

I agree. This strategy only works with Steph Curry. These other teams do not have the talent of Steph Curry so their attempts at mimicking Golden State doesn't work. Other teams have already tried and failed. (See Indiana).

Steph Curry is the key to Golden State's strategy and success.

[swagga]

When the Warriors owner comes out and says "we're light years ahead of the competition"

Do you think he's talking about the Warriors' talent, or their strategy/organization?

ref treatment tbh.

[3ball]

I agree. This strategy only works with Steph Curry.


And Klay Thompson - it's their 3-point prowess SPECIFICALLY that allows the Warriors' offense to be executed at a championship level.

It appears that offenses with championship-caliber strategy can only be executed at a championship level by great players - similar to the Warriors' offense only working with Curry and Klay's 3-point prowess, the triangle only worked with Shaq, MJ or Kobe.

[warriorfan]

And Klay Thompson - it's their 3-point prowess SPECIFICALLY that allows the Warriors' offense to be executed at a championship level.

It appears that offenses with championship-caliber strategy can only be executed at a championship level by great players - similar to the Warriors' offense only working with Curry and Klay's 3-point prowess, the triangle only worked with Shaq, MJ or Kobe.

After the other night's performance where Klay Thompson was 0/7 from 3 point range we can see the writing on the wall that shows that Klay Thompson's 3 point shooting is created as a bi-product of Steph Curry's play. Curry and Klay's 3 point ability catalyzes the offense but Klay's 3 point ability is catalyzed by Curry. The superior strategy of the Warriors begins at the top with Steph Curry, who is a one of a kind and a truly irreplaceable player.

[sd3035]

It's the same thing with MJ - other than Pippen, the Bulls had a bunch of glorified role players just like the Warriors:



- Horace Grant was an 12/9 play-finisher

- Kerr/Paxson/BJ were Redick-style spot-up shooters averaging 7-12 ppg

- Cartwright/Longley were 8 ppg/0.5 blk centers who just took up space

- Rodman wasn't all-star or all defense; he averaged 4/8 in 97' Playoffs and didn't start in 98' playoffs


I agree that there was a huge drop off after Jordan and Pippen. The Bulls never stacked 3 or 4 superstars together like Lebald's teams

[LBJFTW]

Literally no one is shocked that a guy who played with MJ, PJ, and Pop is a good coach able to lead a team to 73 wins.

Literally not one single person.

[BeastMode24]

While the OP is right that the Warriors aren't as stacked as the other 4 teams mentioned, they are still a great team and probably the 5th most stacked in the league.

They also play together very well, have great coaching, and the best player in the world on their team. They are the most exciting team to watch, along with OKC, when Curry is playing.

agreed. they are stacked compared to the next tier of teams which aren't really contenders.

[LilEddyCurry]

:facepalm

[Robalvarez2010]

So who's the individual that said that golden state is not stacked. They are playing without there mvp and they are killing Houston. Yes I know that Houston is not a threat, but they still should not be losing by 20.

[BeastMode24]

So who's the individual that said that golden state is not stacked. They are playing without there mvp and they are killing Houston. Yes I know that Houston is not a threat, but they still should not be losing by 20.

its the rockets. they lost to the suns in a must win game

[SpaceJammeR]

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[Cocaine80s]

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[Marchesk]

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[navy]

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[LAZERUSS]

Just like the injury-riddled 55-27 '94 Bulls, who likely would have won a title had they not been cheated out of a series win in the ECSF's (a healthy Bulls team would have won 60+)...

the '16 Warriors are a championship-caliber team even without their best player. Easily a 60+ win team without him.

TALENT, TALENT, and more TALENT.

[livinglegend]

what a loser OP is


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[TrueBlue89]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[BasketballLove]

:roll: Really OP? Warriors are legit!!

[Dray n Klay]

"Least Stacked Team" went all the way to Game 7 of the Finals with Curry missing 2 weeks of playoff basketball, and playing like shit in the Finals :lol :banana:



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[AirBonner]

So the warriors have curry 30ppg scorer klay 22ppg dray triple double machine and they just added another 30ppg player.

Agree least stacked :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

2 MVP's, 4 All-NBA players and a FMVP really isn't THAT stacked

[MP.Trey]

Klay = Spot up shooter with poor handles, poor vision, poor bball iq, mediocre to lower end defender

Draymond = Mediocre passer but awful all around offensively, good hustle defense

Iguodala = Can't hit the broad side of a barn with his jumpshot, does not space the floor, does not hustle, overrated defender, only thing he can do is dunk in transition

Barnes = piece of human garbage, scores 9 points as a 4th option of offense. Cannot create his own shot. Has a knack for disapearing during big moments

Barbosa = shitty passer, low bball iq, main asset is shooting open corner 3's and reckless crashes to the basket

Livingston = decent low post scorer you can rely on for 6 to 8 points a game, mediocre passer, worst floor spacing point guard in the league,

Bogut = good defender, close to 40 yearss old and has suffered major injuries, his right arm is crooked and does not bend properly, he plays 20 mins a game and scores 2 to 4 points a game

Ezeli = Stone hands, poor pick and roll defense

But I thought the only reason the Cavs won was because Draymond (the awful offensive player with mediocre passing and good hustle defense) and Bogut (the 40 year old chronicly injured 20 mpg 2-4 ppg scoring big man) missed a couple games. And Iggy (the most overrated player of all time apparently) had a back problem.

You're a joke. :roll: