Prince is essentially the homeless man's Bowie

[masonanddixon]

90% of his catalogue is fluffy pop.

[Uncle Drew]

Racism, therefore reported.

[L.Kizzle]

You're first time listening to Prince was yesterday? It's okay.

[masonanddixon]

You're first time listening to Prince was yesterday? It's okay.

Been listening to him for years, man. Going back over his catalogue, it's pretty cheesy material.

He runs the same gimmick as Bowie but less effective. Bowie's fifth/sixth best album (Heroes) is better than Prince's best (Purple Rain or Sign of the Times).

[masonanddixon]

Racism, therefore reported.

Shut the hell up. This has nothing to do with race.

[Uncle Drew]

Shut the hell up. This has nothing to do with race.
Meltdown.

[L.Kizzle]

Been listening to him for years, man. Going back over his catalogue, it's pretty cheesy material.

He runs the same gimmick as Bowie but less effective.
Prince is actually the black Bowie and Davie, the white Prince.

But where you listening to him on the radio, or whole LP's? Prince was more than Let's Go Crazy and Kiss. I mean calling a man who has released instrumental jazz albums, a live piano, making the album Lovesexy one track segued with orchestration pieces 90% pop is mind boggling.

[stalkerforlife]

Love you, OP, but Prince is possibly the greatest musician of all time.

Dude could do it all.

[masonanddixon]

Prince is actually the black Bowie and Davie, the white Prince.

But where you listening to him on the radio, or whole LP's? Prince was more than Let's Go Crazy and Kiss. I mean calling a man who has released instrumental jazz albums, a live piano, making the album Lovesexy one track segued with orchestration pieces 90% pop is mind boggling.

Bowie was a far more skilled vocalist and multi instrumentalist.

I've heard all of Prince's albums and I play jazz myself (not well, but I at least understand and know the genre) and you cannot compare prince's instrumental work to actual legitimate jazz.

[masonanddixon]

Love you, OP, but Prince is possibly the greatest musician of all time.

Dude could do it all.

Love you too homie, but you can't really compare a popular artist to jazz musicians or classical musicians. He's no Bill Evans, he's no Stan Getz, he's no Charlie Parker, and he sure as hell is no Phil Woods.

[masonanddixon]

By the way, being called the homeless man's Bowie is an impressive accolade. Bowie is probably the 4th or 5th best musician of the rock/pop era.

[L.Kizzle]

Bowie was a far more skilled vocalist and multi instrumentalist.

I've heard all of Prince's albums and I play jazz myself (not well, but I at least understand and know the genre) and you cannot compare prince's instrumental work to actual legitimate jazz.
Bowie is possibly a slightly better singer, but he is no where near the musician that Prince was.

If you heard all his work, how can you say he's 90% pop? :biggums:
And what is legitimate jazz? He's not Charlie Parker or Jimmy Smith? He started out as a rhythm & blues/funk artist with a splash of rock & new wave. If he was good enough to play with jazz giant Miles Davis, I think that's all that matters.

[L.Kizzle]

By the way, being called the homeless man's Bowie is an impressive accolade. Bowie is probably the 4th or 5th best musician of the rock/pop era.
And who are your top three? Where does Prince rank?

[stalkerforlife]

Love you too homie, but you can't really compare a popular artist to jazz musicians or classical musicians. He's no Bill Evans, he's no Stan Getz, he's no Charlie Parker, and he sure as hell is no Phil Woods.

Damn...I never even heard of those guys.

Maybe i'm out of my league here. :lol

[masonanddixon]

Damn...I never even heard of those guys.

Maybe i'm out of my league here. :lol

Dude just listen to Kind of Blue. It had the best trumpeter, the best pianist, and the best tenor at the time.

Once you listen to that you'll understand why you can't compare guys like Bowie and Prince to real musicians.

[masonanddixon]

And who are your top three? Where does Prince rank?

Beatles
James Brown
Beach Boys

Prince is a very good popular musician but I don't really listen to pop music these days.

Like I said to stalker, you can't really compare these guys to jazz musicians; it's a totally different ballgame.

[L.Kizzle]

Beatles
James Brown
Beach Boys

Prince is a very good popular musician but I don't really listen to pop music these days.

Like I said to stalker, you can't really compare these guys to jazz musicians; it's a totally different ballgame.
You said Bowie was a better instrumentalist than Prince.

I can agree with the likes of the Beatles or James Brown being higher than Bowie/Prince on an all-time artist list. I thought you were comparing their chops as who's a better guitarist, pianist, ect.

And I don't even compare Jazz cats to the other world.

[masonanddixon]

You said Bowie was a better instrumentalist than Prince.

I can agree with the likes of the Beatles or James Brown being higher than Bowie/Prince on an all-time artist list. I thought you were comparing their chops as who's a better guitarist, pianist, ect.

And I don't even compare Jazz cats to the other world.

Bowie played some saxophone, piano, and guitar. Obviously at a decent enough level for a pop musician.

And why not the Beach Boys? Brian Wilson is seriously the forgotten artist. He was achieving levels of harmonic genius that were never before attained. If he hadn't had a breakdown he would've been given us 3-4 more albums of absolute impeccable harmony.

[NumberSix]

Not really a fan of either.

[LJJ]

People trying to trash and put down either of these studs is hilarious. Ingrates.

[ROCSteady]

Have a lot of respect for both, both were big time contributors to art and culture. Really talented, multi faceted individuals

That said, I favor David Bowie's music more. Just spoke to me more even though Prince had some great stuff.

Bowie's music I think will stand the test of time better too. Some of that has to do with Prince's distribution, some of it has to do with just sounding more transcendent

[NumberSix]

Have a lot of respect for both, both were big time contributors to art and culture. Really talented, multi faceted individuals

That said, I favor David Bowie's music more. Just spoke to me more even though Prince had some great stuff.

Bowie's music I think will stand the test of time better too. Some of that has to do with Prince's distribution, some of it has to do with just sounding more transcendent
If I had to pick, I'd say Prince.

I'm not a fan at all of the whole Minneapolis, Jimmy Jam kinda sound. Although Prince made a lot of minimalist kind of music, he was worlds beyond Bowie as a musician.

[masonanddixon]

If I had to pick, I'd say Prince.

I'm not a fan at all of the whole Minneapolis, Jimmy Jam kinda sound. Although Prince made a lot of minimalist kind of music, he was worlds beyond Bowie as a musician.

I have no idea why people say this. Both were multinstrumentalists who were not great at any one instrument, jack of all trades and master of none, and Bowie's voice was the ultimate instrument.

[Overdrive]

Once you listen to that you'll understand why you can't compare guys like Bowie and Prince to real musicians.

"Real musicians"? Music is about expression and not some scale and mode noodling. That said Prince's father was a Jazz musician himself and thaught his son.

Snobby Jazzers thinking they know it all, because they do a syphilitic homeless men's broken down version of classic music and think they're so damn elitist, because they believe they know more chord progressions than the guy on stage that touches thousands of hearts with just a sentence, while they sit in a cellar playing for 2 people who love to hear themselves talking more than anything else in the world.

Ironically the most accomplished jazzmusicians didn't feel the need to put down popular music as much as those wannabes. Real musicians recognize talent no matter how it's packaged

btw a real musician:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BxRYIoKMJU

[masonanddixon]

"Real musicians"? Music is about expression and not some scale and mode noodling. That said Prince's father was a Jazz musician himself and thaught his son.

Snobby Jazzers thinking they know it all, because they do a syphilitic homeless men's broken down version of classic music and think they're so damn elitist, because they believe they know more chord progressions than the guy on stage that touches thousands of hearts with just a sentence, while they sit in a cellar playing for 2 people who love to hear themselves talking more than anything else in the world.

Ironically the most accomplished jazzmusicians didn't feel the need to put down popular music as much as those wannabes. Real musicians recognize talent no matter how it's packaged

btw a real musician:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BxRYIoKMJU


lol at showing a completely sold out Miles as evidence of your point. Spoken like a true musical neophyte. Most serious jazz musicians consider rock/pop to be selling out and don't take it seriously at all. Just listen to what Phil Woods has to say about his solos for Billy Joel and James Taylor: hint, they are those artists's most famous songs, and he states he only did it for the $$$$$$$

I appreciate rock/pop but jazz is objectively a far more difficult medium.

It's like comparing Dan Brown to William Faulkner. Sure you might appreciate the more simplistic and easy narrative but the complexity of thought is incomparable.

[Overdrive]

lol at showing a completely sold out Miles as evidence of your point. Spoken like a true musical neophyte. Most serious jazz musicians consider rock/pop to be selling out and don't take it seriously at all. Just listen to what Phil Woods has to say about his solos for Billy Joel and James Taylor: hint, they are those artists's most famous songs, and he states he only did it for the $$$$$$$

I appreciate rock/pop but jazz is objectively a far more difficult medium.

It's like comparing Dan Brown to William Faulkner. Sure you might appreciate the more simplistic and easy narrative but the complexity of thought is incomparable.

Yeah and Jaco played for Joni Mitchell for the heck of it and enjoyed it. He didn't see much $ anyway.

"Sold out Miles", this is dumber than those "true black metal" ****. Miles sold out, because his music got noticed, not because he wanted it to be noticed.

My point was that simplicistic doesn't mean bad, your counter was that popular music is simplicistic. Good Job, good effort.

[masonanddixon]

Yeah and Jaco played for Joni Mitchell for the heck of it and enjoyed it. He didn't see much $ anyway.

"Sold out Miles", this is dumber than those "true black metal" ****. Miles sold out, because his music got noticed, not because he wanted it to be noticed.

My point was that simplicistic doesn't mean bad, your counter was that popular music is simplicistic. Good Job, good effort.

No, Miles just completely sold out. Bitches Brew was a dangerous album and pretty much everything he recorded after that was pure shit. He even started covering Madonna and shit. Give me a break. He was the hugest jazz musician at his peak, he had no need to break out into the mainstream. He just sold out, plain and simple. It happens.

I never claimed that simplistic equates to bad. I simply stated all along that you cannot compare mainstream music to jazz music.

Good job, good effort, though.

[masonanddixon]

Yeah and Jaco played for Joni Mitchell for the heck of it and enjoyed it. He didn't see much $ anyway.

"Sold out Miles", this is dumber than those "true black metal" ****. Miles sold out, because his music got noticed, not because he wanted it to be noticed.

My point was that simplicistic doesn't mean bad, your counter was that popular music is simplicistic. Good Job, good effort.

Joni Mitchell was a pure singer-songwriter. The most important female musician since Ella.

You can't really compare her to all out selling out like Miles.

[Overdrive]

No, Miles just completely sold out. Bitches Brew was a dangerous album and pretty much everything he recorded after that was pure shit. He even started covering Madonna and shit. Give me a break. He was the hugest jazz musician at his peak, he had no need to break out into the mainstream. He just sold out, plain and simple. It happens.

I never claimed that simplistic equates to bad. I simply stated all along that you cannot compare mainstream music to jazz music.

Good job, good effort, though.

Maybe he just did it, because it was fun to him? As you said he had no need to sell out. He accomplished nothing with that. Bitches Brew made him a "mainstream" artist. Kind Of Blue later on, became his most recognized Opus, not covering Madonna.

Tutu is awesome, more simplicistic, maybe, but it's a decent album and made Marcus Miller a household name among bassists.


Joni Mitchell was a pure singer-songwriter. The most important female musician since Ella.

You can't really compare her to all out selling out like Miles.

I'm not comparing Joni Mitchell to Miles Davis. You said playing for Billy Joel and James Taylor is selling out - I'm comparing that.

Well, James Taylor as much as Joni Mitchell is a singer songwriter.

[Smoke117]

They're both meh.

[Pointguard]

I'm not a Prince (RIP) fanatic but he could really play the guitar and reach high emotional levels as good as anybody. While he wasn't Jimmy Hendrix he is one of a few that the comparison works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjq_TQVvo1M Most jazz guitarist would have no problem with admitting Hendrix was the best guitarist.

His contribution to erotic music is top level. He was primarily a top performer and among the best ever. He also made it to the top while playing underground music - its the hardest thing to do in the music industry. He also might have the most successful pop movie/musical that killed the charts. Had it not been for the greatest ever, Michael Jackson, Prince would have reigned King of the industry for over a decade while not changing his underground style. He was truly unique and comparison's are very few, IF ANY that really work.

Two things are for sure. Bowie wasn't on his level of musicianship or performing. Nor was his influence on contemporaries near Prince's level. Even Tom Jones recorded Prince records and he's more Bowie's contemporary.

[highwhey]

Am I the only one who finds zero appeal in Prince's music?

[Jailblazers7]

I love Bowie but calling him a better instrumentalist than Prince is ****ing nuts. They were both great and iconic so not sure why we have to belittle one to praise the other.

Bowie was definitely a smart business man tho. He was very prescient about the future of the industry.

[Orlando Magic]

Am I the only one who finds zero appeal in Prince's music?

You are not alone.

http://blavity.blavity.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/classic_motown_com.jpg

Make way for the mother ****ing GOAT.

[Orlando Magic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yURRmWtbTbo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uj3zitETs4

[tomtucker]

I like prince

[SexSymbol]

It's the other way around, bowie is homeless man's prince

[Smoke117]

Am I the only one who finds zero appeal in Prince's music?

Nope. I don't see the appeal either. I like some Bowie, but he's not someone that I listen to regularly.

[Smook A.]

You are not alone.

http://blavity.blavity.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/classic_motown_com.jpg

Make way for the mother ****ing GOAT.
I love Michael, but even though he was a very good artist, he was definitely more of an entertainer. Both Prince and Mike were fantastic entertainers and musicians, but one was better at one thing than the other. MJ, to me, is easily the best entertainer of all time. Prince is one of the best musicians of all time.

[Collie]

Have a lot of respect for both, both were big time contributors to art and culture. Really talented, multi faceted individuals

That said, I favor David Bowie's music more. Just spoke to me more even though Prince had some great stuff.

Bowie's music I think will stand the test of time better too. Some of that has to do with Prince's distribution, some of it has to do with just sounding more transcendent

I think Bowie will be better remembered as an artist, but Prince's music will have the bigger legacy. It was just far more accessible than Bowie, despite IMO Bowie being more creative. Bowie's most famous song is probably Space Oddity or Heroes but Purple Rain was incredible in terms of its reach. Kinda like MJ, it practically transcended music.

[Duderonomy]

I would suggest you check out some of his eariler work
Controversy
DMSR
Party up

[kentatm]

Bowie was a far more skilled vocalist and multi instrumentalist.

I've heard all of Prince's albums and I play jazz myself (not well, but I at least understand and know the genre) and you cannot compare prince's instrumental work to actual legitimate jazz.

You've heard all 39 LPs, 13 EPs, and all various singles and songs released on the internet?

Yea.. I'm calling bullshit.

[masonanddixon]

You've heard all 39 LPs, 13 EPs, and all various singles and songs released on the internet?

Yea.. I'm calling bullshit.

Yes but you are retarded, so what do I care what you think?

[masonanddixon]

I think Bowie will be better remembered as an artist, but Prince's music will have the bigger legacy. It was just far more accessible than Bowie, despite IMO Bowie being more creative. Bowie's most famous song is probably Space Oddity or Heroes but Purple Rain was incredible in terms of its reach. Kinda like MJ, it practically transcended music.

How about Hunky Dory? Thats a far better artistic work than anything Prince put out.

[L.Kizzle]

Rolling Stones 100 Greatest Artist 2010
28. Prince
29. The Who
38. John Lennon
39. David Bowie


Rolling Stones 100 Greatest Singers 2010
23. David Bowie
24. Van Morrison
29. Nina Simone
30. Prince


Vh1 100 Greatest Artist 1998
7. David Bowie
8. Elvis Presley
17. Elton John
18. Prince


Vh1 100 Greatest Artist 2010
7. Prince
8. Elvis Presley
11. Bob Marley
12. David Bowie


Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time
35. David Bowie: The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
72. Prince: Purple Rain
93. Prince: Sign 'O' the Times
107. David Bowie: Hunky Dory
163. Prince: 1999
204. Prince: Dirty Mind
249. David Bowie: Low
277. David Bowie: Aladdin Sane
323. David Bowie: Station to Station
425. David Bowie: Changesone


Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All-Time
46. David Bowie: Heroes
52. Prince: When Doves Cry
109: Prince: Little Red Corvette
128. David Bowie: Change
144: Prince: Purple Rain
215: Prince: 1999
282. David Bowie: Ziggy Stardust
304. Prince: Sign 'O' The Times
464. Prince: Kiss
486. David Bowie: Young Americans


It seems like a wash. Rolling Stones list Prince as the greater artist, but Bowie the greater singer. Vh1 in 1998, had Bowie higher. In their 2010 list, ranked Prince higher.
Rolling Stone has more David Bowie album in their top 500 (6-4.) But Prince has more songs in their 100 greatest songs list (6-4.)

[oarabbus]

Prince is objectively incredibly talented but I'm just not that big on any of his music. I respect his talent though.

Michael Jackson > Prince (and Bowie) though.

[masonanddixon]

Rolling Stones 100 Greatest Artist 2010
28. Prince
29. The Who
38. John Lennon
39. David Bowie


Rolling Stones 100 Greatest Singers 2010
23. David Bowie
24. Van Morrison
29. Nina Simone
30. Prince


Vh1 100 Greatest Artist 1998
7. David Bowie
8. Elvis Presley
17. Elton John
18. Prince


Vh1 100 Greatest Artist 2010
7. Prince
8. Elvis Presley
11. Bob Marley
12. David Bowie


Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time
35. David Bowie: The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
72. Prince: Purple Rain
93. Prince: Sign 'O' the Times
107. David Bowie: Hunky Dory
163. Prince: 1999
204. Prince: Dirty Mind
249. David Bowie: Low
277. David Bowie: Aladdin Sane
323. David Bowie: Station to Station
425. David Bowie: Changesone


Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All-Time
46. David Bowie: Heroes
52. Prince: When Doves Cry
109: Prince: Little Red Corvette
128. David Bowie: Change
144: Prince: Purple Rain
215: Prince: 1999
282. David Bowie: Ziggy Stardust
304. Prince: Sign 'O' The Times
464. Prince: Kiss
486. David Bowie: Young Americans


It seems like a wash. Rolling Stones list Prince as the greater artist, but Bowie the greater singer. Vh1 in 1998, had Bowie higher. In their 2010 list, ranked Prince higher.
Rolling Stone has more David Bowie album in their top 500 (6-4.) But Prince has more songs in their 100 greatest songs list (6-4.)

Dude this isn't a PER or win-share record of statistics.

And lol at Marley on that list. I wipe my ass with Bob Marley recordings.

[SexSymbol]

Rolling Stones 100 Greatest Artist 2010
28. Prince
29. The Who
38. John Lennon
39. David Bowie


Rolling Stones 100 Greatest Singers 2010
23. David Bowie
24. Van Morrison
29. Nina Simone
30. Prince


Vh1 100 Greatest Artist 1998
7. David Bowie
8. Elvis Presley
17. Elton John
18. Prince


Vh1 100 Greatest Artist 2010
7. Prince
8. Elvis Presley
11. Bob Marley
12. David Bowie


Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time
35. David Bowie: The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
72. Prince: Purple Rain
93. Prince: Sign 'O' the Times
107. David Bowie: Hunky Dory
163. Prince: 1999
204. Prince: Dirty Mind
249. David Bowie: Low
277. David Bowie: Aladdin Sane
323. David Bowie: Station to Station
425. David Bowie: Changesone


Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All-Time
46. David Bowie: Heroes
52. Prince: When Doves Cry
109: Prince: Little Red Corvette
128. David Bowie: Change
144: Prince: Purple Rain
215: Prince: 1999
282. David Bowie: Ziggy Stardust
304. Prince: Sign 'O' The Times
464. Prince: Kiss
486. David Bowie: Young Americans


It seems like a wash. Rolling Stones list Prince as the greater artist, but Bowie the greater singer. Vh1 in 1998, had Bowie higher. In their 2010 list, ranked Prince higher.
Rolling Stone has more David Bowie album in their top 500 (6-4.) But Prince has more songs in their 100 greatest songs list (6-4.)

Bowie is an atrocious singer, his voice is terrible.
Prince's isn't too good either, them being on the top 100 list of singers is a joke.
Artists and musicians, sure, but singing talent is a whole different thing than just creating good music with spoken words to it.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Bowie was a far more skilled vocalist and multi instrumentalist.

I've heard all of Prince's albums and I play jazz myself (not well, but I at least understand and know the genre) and you cannot compare prince's instrumental work to actual legitimate jazz.

I love Bowie, but no. Just fcking no.

[masonanddixon]

I love Bowie, but no. Just fcking no.

Do your research, son. Bowie played saxophone and piano, two instruments which are a shitload tougher than guitar.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Do your research, son. Bowie played saxophone and piano, two instruments which are a shitload tougher than guitar.

Prince played the piano too. :confusedshrug:

http://www.humannaturemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/prince-piano-fox-theatre-2-599x264.jpg

He could also jam on the drums:

http://www.smartalecmusic.com/prince_on_drums.jpg

Prince had a larger vocal range--is that debatable? He was also a master guitar player, something that cannot be said about Bowie on the piano or sax. I slightly prefer Bowie's work (really close though), but in terms of sheer musical ability, Prince takes this.

[UK2K]

Looks like another drug OD.

Won't shed a tear.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Looks like another drug OD.

Won't shed a tear.
Why would you regardless of cause of death? You aint boys with Prince.

[stalkerforlife]

I've seen enough...Prince is the greatest overall musician of all time.

Master guitar player and played 27 instruments.

A beautiful man.

PLEASE listen to this song...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bOp45EFgo

Gorgeous, gorgeous song and makes me cry...new Prince that few new about.

[andgar923]

90% of his catalogue is fluffy pop.

I think I own perhaps 3 Prince songs, and outside of this past week I don't think I've heard much of him.

Bowie on the other hand, I own most of his catalog and listen to him all the time (as in at least 2 times a week on my classic rock playlist).

I 'prefer' Bowie's MUSIC to Prince's.

But it comes down to the age old question:

Pink Floyd vs Yes

:biggums:

Let me elaborate.

Yes is perhaps miles ahead of Pink Floyd musicianship wise. The drummer is better than Nick, their keyboardist superior, guitar player perhaps slightly better, bassist advantage to Yes as well. In general they're simply the superior musicians with a few hits.

Pink floyd on the other hand may not be as good musicians, but arguably create better 'music/songs'.

So it comes down to what one is referring as better.

Prince is EONS the better musician, he is perhaps the single greatest musician ever! He can play the guitar perhaps better than anyone ever, he can perhaps play the bass better than anyone ever, can play the drums with the best of them, he's an all time great keyboard player etc.etc. Now, this isn't just in hindsight, those in the music industry have been stating this for years. He simply kills it in every instrument, leaving even the most legendary in their own instrument in awe.

Bowie wrote great songs and I prefer his music to Prince's. But he's not even close to the musician that Prince was.

And Prince doesn't make typical 'pop' music. If you even cared to listen you'd know that it was actually the opposite. His music is a fusion of different styles and genres which isn't typical of pop music. He has a style that HE made popular, others copied HIS style, while Bowie rode the train copying his influences at the time. Bowie was never an original, but more of a great imitator.

It's hard for me to pick who's better:

The superior multi instrumentalist whose music I don't really listen too.

or

Bowie, a musical chameleon that has adapted and remained relevant for decades while releasing great album after album.

At the end I'll go with Bowie for his catalog.

if we were simply basing rankings on technical abilities, then Cannibus and Zappa would be no.1s in their genres.

But Prince is a poor man's NOBODY

He's f*ckin PRINCE!!!

[andgar923]

One thing I want to add to my post.

Prince wasn't just phenomenal at playing instruments on the technical side, he was great at playing them on the 'natural' side.

:biggums:

Anybody can play guitar, but not many have the same emotion behind them. You could FEEL the blues and emotion when he played the guitar. He could ROCK it as well, he wasn't limited to just a style. I've seen rock guitarists try to play blues and vice versa, but they fail. Prince can ROCK and be bluesy, or jazz and fit right in.

Prince can not just play the piano, he can fit right into any genre.

If Prince was into black Norwegian metal, he'd fit right in if he wanted too.

Again, this isn't just in hindsight cause he passed away. The same post would've been made years ago, because well... he's f*ckin PRINCE!!!

[L.Kizzle]

Do your research, son. Bowie played saxophone and piano, two instruments which are a shitload tougher than guitar.
Prince plays ever instrument better than Bowie. Probably eons better too.

[andgar923]

Oh... and we have yet touched on his recording and engineering feats.

The man was a BEAST!!!

He'd have an army of recording engineers at his disposal working around the clock because they couldn't keep up with him. He was maniacal when he recorded. He'd play the drums, run to the recording booth mix, and pull out a guitar while sitting behind the console and record and mix on the same sitting, then grab a mic and record and mix it at the same time. Engineers simply couldnt keep up with him.

Yes he was a great engineer as well.

[L.Kizzle]

Oh... and we have yet touched on his recording and engineering feats.

The man was a BEAST!!!

He'd have an army of recording engineers at his disposal working around the clock because they couldn't keep up with him. He was maniacal when he recorded. He'd play the drums, run to the recording booth mix, and pull out a guitar while sitting behind the console and record and mix on the same sitting, then grab a mic and record and mix it at the same time. Engineers simply couldnt keep up with him.

Yes he was a great engineer as well.
Not to mention his work for others. The early albums by the Time, were all 95% Prince. Morris Day just dubbed his vocals over Prince's. Other albums by Vanity (Appolonia) 6, Sheila E, The Family, ect were all mostly written, produced and played Prince. Check out his Madhouse albums, mostly jazz fusion.

[Pointguard]

I love Michael, but even though he was a very good artist, he was definitely more of an entertainer. Both Prince and Mike were fantastic entertainers and musicians, but one was better at one thing than the other. MJ, to me, is easily the best entertainer of all time. Prince is one of the best musicians of all time.
As an entertainer, you know, Prince was one of the best ever and would have been argued that if MJ wasn't his age and them peaking at the same time.

I don't know if you used the wrong word but as an Artist MJ should be argued as one of the best. He's the best selling artist because of his singing. Mariah Carey redid "I'll be there" and the 12 year old MJ definitely has marked advantages on her, while she was the top artist at that time. Nobody remakes his records despite him being the most successful artist ever along with the melodic beauty of his work.

[masonanddixon]

Prince plays ever instrument better than Bowie. Probably eons better too.

lol we both know the reason why you think Prince is the better instrumentalist.

Prince is more well know because his music is more recent but go back to Hunky Dory and you'll see some genuine, pure music that far surpassed any of Prince's work.

And to the guy who said prince is the greatest instrumentalist...please, PLEASE educate yourself...he doesn't even register compared to any jazz musician, let alone the greats.

[L.Kizzle]

lol we both know the reason why you think Prince is the better instrumentalist.

Prince is more well know because his music is more recent but go back to Hunky Dory and you'll see some genuine, pure music that far surpassed any of Prince's work.

And to the guy who said prince is the greatest instrumentalist...please, PLEASE educate yourself...he doesn't even register compared to any jazz musician, let alone the greats.
The reason is probably because he's better, there's really no other reason. Everyone else here on this thread has co-signed with him being a greater instrumentalist. And it's a wash on who everyone likes better as an artist. Some picked Bowie, some picked Prince.

[masonanddixon]

The reason is probably because he's better, there's really no other reason. Everyone else here on this thread has co-signed with him being a greater instrumentalist. And it's a wash on who everyone likes better as an artist. Some picked Bowie, some picked Prince.

The reason is because you've probably never heard Bowie and just assume Prince is better because of his skin colour.

They are essentially the same musical specimen but with Bowie being far more skilled and prolific.

You probably haven't even listened to a single Bowie album.

[L.Kizzle]

The reason is because you've probably never heard Bowie and just assume Prince is better because of his skin colour.

They are essentially the same musical specimen but with Bowie being far more skilled and prolific.

You probably haven't even listened to a single Bowie album.
Find out everyone else reason for saying if Prince is a better musician. Is it because he's a black guy or because he' just better.

Nope, I've never listened to an entire Bowie album. Never said I did. I've heard plenty of songs by him. I've never denied his talents here. I'm going by what I've read heard. Never heard he was some amazing multi-instrumentalist on the level of Prince. And this thread proves that, as a guy with Bowie's catalog said Prince is better. I've heard other white guys like Zappa and Todd Rundgren were. I've never listened to an entire John Lennon album, but I wouldn't deny his talents.

On this same thread "andgar923" said he's only heard three Prince song's and has heard damn near Bowie's entire catalog. You should call him out for being a white guy and only listening to David Bowie because he's white and not listening to Prince because he's black ... But that probably won't happen. Maybe it will, who knows what the world has in store.

[Long Duck Dong]

On this same thread "andgar923" said he's only heard three Prince song's and has heard damn near Bowie's entire catalog. You should call him out for being a white guy and only listening to David Bowie because he's white and not listening to Prince because he's black ....

I'm pretty sure he's a bean eater.

I can say this w/o being racist as my gf is latina

[andgar923]

Find out everyone else reason for saying if Prince is a better musician. Is it because he's a black guy or because he' just better.

Nope, I've never listened to an entire Bowie album. Never said I did. I've heard plenty of songs by him. I've never denied his talents here. I'm going by what I've read heard. Never heard he was some amazing multi-instrumentalist on the level of Prince. And this thread proves that, as a guy with Bowie's catalog said Prince is better. I've heard other white guys like Zappa and Todd Rundgren were. I've never listened to an entire John Lennon album, but I wouldn't deny his talents.

On this same thread "andgar923" said he's only heard three Prince song's and has heard damn near Bowie's entire catalog. You should call him out for being a white guy and only listening to David Bowie because he's white and not listening to Prince because he's black ... But that probably won't happen. Maybe it will, who knows what the world has in store.
Correction.

Not that ive only heard 3 Prince songs ever.

I've heard a few of his albums, just 3 songs (or so) in the past few years.

[andgar923]

The reason is because you've probably never heard Bowie and just assume Prince is better because of his skin colour.

They are essentially the same musical specimen but with Bowie being far more skilled and prolific.

You probably haven't even listened to a single Bowie album.
stfu